In episode 122 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked if one should use the same Google account when ranking a video using Google properties (drive stacks).
The exact question was:
Say I have a video I'm trying to rank on first page using other Google properties (Drive stacking as you call it), should the other drive files with links pointing to this video be created in the same Google account where the video is uploaded to? Or should these drive stacks be created in a “”non-associated”” gmail account? Thanks.
Marco: I see Bradley. Hey, Bradley. I'm really excited to be here. I'm happy to be here as always.
Adam: Well, we're going to begin. Let's check in with Marco. Marco, how's the weather down there?
Marco: Hey, man. It's beautiful still. It hasn't rain in I can't remember how long. Warm and sunny. Sorry about the snow guys. Wish you were here. Not.
Adam: Yeah, there's a reason I'm wearing a hoodie, and now we've got about 18 or 24 inches. Two feet. Yeah, there's a ton. It's crazy. It's like a blizzard outside. It looks like that wall outside.
Bradley: It's crazy.
Adam: Bradley, how's it going man?
Bradley: I'm good. Cold as hell in Virginia as well. It's like 27 degrees. It's awful. It's been windy all day. It was like 75 degree over the weekend, so it's crazy. Glad to be here. We've got several questions already. What announcements do we have for today?
Adam: Well, we wanted to let everybody know … Actually, I'll let Marco. You want to tell people about the [inaudible 00:01:30] webinar?
Marco: Yeah, I want to tell them about the replay actually. Caesar is working on it. We have a Caesar, so he's getting that done, and once he has it all spliced together, and taken out the technical difficulties and everything that we ran into, we will make it available for 24 hours only. If you miss it after that time, I'm sorry. You can't have it. It's going on pay-per-view, and since it's my webinar, I decide what to charge. I'm sorry but it's not a Semantic Mastery webinar. I did it. It was on my time. It was on my dime, and so I know that we always say membership has it's privileges, but in this case, the privilege was getting all that information for free.
Adam: Got you, and you had to say it, too. The reason there's a reply is because there was that issue. We had some technical issues that were out of our control, so we don't want to penalize people because of that.
Marco: It was going to go on pay-per-view immediately after it was done, but since we had those technical difficulties, we'll replay it for 24 hours exactly. Then that's it. Don't ask for anything else. You're not getting anything else.
Hernan: I like that pay-per-view term. It's like [inaudible 00:02:55] this case is going to be [inaudible 00:02:57] versus the search engine or something like that.
Bradley: [inaudible 00:03:00] versus Google.
Marco: This is me versus Google.
Chris: The IM world because IM'ers got me pissed man. I'm locked and loaded, and I'm ready for war.
Bradley: There you go.
Adam: Awesome. Well, I'm [crosstalk 00:03:14].
Bradley: I said I'll get Marco a fighting robe and all that shit.
Marco: Oh, yeah. I'll take the bets.
Adam: In some SerpSpace news and some happier news, video powerhouse members got some v-mail prospecting templates to along with the video email prospecting course, which is kind of cool, and then they also got a free customer acquisition funnel last week, which is pretty sweet. If you didn't have … In a powerhouse launch, I'm going to pop a link in here, and it'll be in the show notes. You can check that out if you're interested, if we reopen that up here down the road, and you want to get some pretty sweet bonuses along with, obviously, video powerhouse, which is pretty sweet. Then also, for Surf Space, they're having for three days, you guys can get 15% off any syndication network, and that also includes link building if you order it with the network. It's a pretty sweet deal.
It's pretty rare that SerpSpace gives 15% off on the link building. If you order that all together, it'll be off everything you order right then and there so long as it's a Syndication Network and Link Building. By all means, take advantage of that. We'll email that out to our subscribers and SerpSpace subscribers, so you guys can take advantage of that. That, I believe, is it. Should we get into it?
Bradley: Yeah, sure. Sorry, I had a stupid Windows update this morning. It took almost an hour. It was ridiculous. Now a whole bunch of settings have been updated apparently. I'm getting desktop notifications for every freaking email. It's unbelievable, so I'm a little bit discombobulated, guys. Sorry, forgive me for that. Let me grab the screen and we'll get into it. Can you guys hear me?
Marco: Now we can.
Bradley: Now you can hear me?
Bradley: Okay, what about when I change screens. Can you hear me now?
Best Practices For Link Building And Ordering Services From SERP Space Done For You Links
In fact, we're actually working on, Hernan has started working on a blueprint or a road map of the process that we use whatever we're launching new properties or new marketing campaigns period. Hernan, you want to chat and talk about that briefly?
Hernan: Yeah, definitely. We had this upcoming question over and over, and we know that we had this discussion yesterday. We know that's kind of overwhelming if you would because we were putting out content and good stuff pretty much every week or every day [inaudible 00:06:51], so what we are doing is to do kind of a blueprint or a battle plan. The main point is that you have a clear understanding of what you do on site SEO wise, number one. Then depending on what you need for a template, if it's a new site, if it's an H site that needs a bump, if it's a local website, if it's a YouTube video depending on what you need, we're going to lay out a strategy step by step so that you can follow it.
It's basically the strategy that we have been following for our own properties, our own case studies. We have been teaching to [inaudible 00:07:24] members etc. It's going to be pretty cool. I think it's going to take, I don't know, maybe another week or so, but it's going to be ready. It's going to be ready to access, and it's going to be pretty cool.
Bradley: That's great. Is that going to be, just so people know where they're going to be able to find that, is that something that's inside of SerpSpace or is it going to be something that you purchase? How are we going to work that?
Hernan: It think that we're going to work it out in a way that it's a separate product. It's going to be affordable, and we haven't discussed the details yet, but I think it's going to be a separate product, and it's going to be affordable enough so that you can grab it and take it. That's basically how I think it's going to work out.
Bradley: Awesome. Very good, thank you. Scott, that's the reason why I brought that up with Hernan now is because I know that we're working on that. This is a question that comes up a lot. It not only comes up in Hump Day Hangouts, but we get in support a lot as well, so you're not the only one. We're definitely working on trying to provide a better process for people to be able to order services and use basically the same methods we use. That said, the way that I do it, and this is probably going to be unique to each one of us on the team here, but the way that I launch new campaigns when there's a website, especially for local stuff, is I build the site. Do the main social network properties, which you've already done, and then I immediately order an IFTTT network because it takes a few days, a week to ten days or whatever, for me to get it back from the builders. I usually order that while I'm actually setting up the site.
Once the site has been completed, and I get the network back, it's been connected via RSS. Then, I'll end up having at least three posts. That's my bare minimum. I always publish three blog posts to the money site itself, and then that syndicates and basically what I call primes the network. You're putting those initial posts out there, getting some initial back link social signals back to the money site. Then I order the RYS or the drive stack at the same time because that takes a week or so, a week and a half to get back, and while I'm publishing the blog posts. Because I don't usually put out all three blog posts in the same day. I will put them all out in the same week, but I usually stagger like one every other day or something like that when I'm publishing, so that it's not just like boom, three posts out there at once.
While the drive stack is being built, I'm working on syndicating the content to the network, and then I also order the citations package because it's certainly not something that I do, so I order that or outsource that. Then once the three posts have been published, that's about the time that I get the RYS stack back, the drive stack back. Now I have a whole bunch of links. I've got my IFTTT network links. I've got my first batch of citations back from our citation service. Then I also have my drive stack links. Then I end up having pretty much all the links that I need that I want to build additional links to, so that's when I'll go.
After I get that back, then I'll go over to the SerpSpace to the link building packages, and I'll end up submitting all of the URLs from those. Now you don't have to submit all of your URLs. You can hand select a few of them. In which case, I recommend if you're going to do that, like if you want to boost a certain property over others, then you would just filter out the ones that you're not so concerned with. Typically, what I do is boost all of the profile URLs for all of the IFTTT network properties, or I should be saying syndication network properties, because that, to me, is the most efficient. What I mean by that is a lot of times we get the question, and this comes up often as well, should we be building links to the individual post URLs from the web-to properties? Yes, that's super powerful, but it also requires a lot of work because you manually have to go scrap those post URLs whenever you want to start a new link building campaign.
Whereas if you build links just directly to the homepage, depending on how you have your settings on each one of the properties, especially for the blogs, but for a blogger on Word Press Tumbler, you're going to build links to that homepage, and there will be a number of posts on that page before they start to paginate. Where they go to the archive page or page two or whatever. A lot of times, I'll just build links directly to the homepage URLs or the profile URLs from the syndication networks. That way, when I start to syndicate additional posts … First of all, the three posts that I started with will already be on the homepage, so they're going to benefit from those additional links anyway. Then whenever I go to publish new posts, they're going to automatically be placed on the homepage of the blogs, which means they're going to benefit from all of that inbound link juice to the those syndication network properties.
Does that make sense? We talk about this a lot or we've done this several times in master class, because that's where we do our live case studies and such, so that process has been shown repeated through there both for local sites, and I do the same thing for affiliate sites. It's just as matter of setting up the process and the timing works out to be … It works out well. Do you guys have anything else you do differently?
Hernan: No, we usually take the same approach, Bradley, on that case. The reality is that for example on the IFTTT network, we are stating on one of them. I'm going to give away a little line of the battle plan. One of the things that we were saying is that if your brand, if your IFTTT network is brand new, you can order a small package. If you're pumping an H site, you can kind of order a bigger package. If that's the case, it would be properties RH, etc., but the rest of the mechanics are pretty much the same on my end, too.
Bradley: It's a great question, Scott. In reading the rest of your question, that's exactly the way that I do it. Just to recap from a brand new site is while I'm building the site, I order the network. Just make sure that there's one post in the RSS feed. It can even be the “Hello World” post. It doesn't matter. There just has to be a post present when you order the network or else the RSS feed will throw an error when you try to connect it to IFTTT or when the builders try to connect it and will slow the build process down. My point is, have at least one post in the feed, and it can be the “Hello World” post. That's fine. Then build out the site while the network's being built. When you get the network back to you, then publish. I always do a minimum of three posts, and then I'll order the drive stack at the same time that I get the network back.
Then once the drive stack gets returned, and also, by the way, at the same time that I order the drive stack, I'll order the citations. Usually, I get the first batch of citations back around the same time that I'll get the drive stack back. Then I'll just go over to SerpSpace and order links for all of those. The first batch of citations, the IFTTT network properties and the drive stacks. That's the way that I do it, and then it's about literally always building more citations if it's for a local business, and continuously publishing content. Keep on it on a good publishing schedule. It's going to vary obviously depending on industry, but it could be one post per week. It could be one post every two weeks. It could be three posts per week. It just depends on your industry and what you think it's going to require.
Then that's what I do is I start publishing posts regularly, and then just start monitoring ranking results, and citations are constantly being built as well, but I'm using a rank tracker all the time, so I'll go in and check on the rank tracking and see where stuff is. I should see movement from publishing posts at that point. If I don't, after a few weeks, and remember. You've got to be careful especially with a new site. You don't want to go too fast, and I noticed you said something about what velocity. As far as building additional links directly to the site, you want to be careful with that. That's why I prefer using the syndication networks and the drive stacks and citations because I build all my links to those instead of directly to the site.
The links that are built directly to the site come from my blog syndication when I'm publishing blog posts and syndicating those out. Everything else, all the external link building is being done to tier one or beyond if that makes sense. The velocity to my actual site is relatively low. The velocity is determined by my frequency of publishing. Does that make sense? It's a great question, though, Scott. Again, that's why Hernan is diligently working on this road map or blueprint or whatever you want to call it. That should be available shortly, and we'll make sure that everybody's aware of how they can get it.
Using Semantic Mastery Syndication Network and Link Building Strategies On A Shopify Store
Adam: Yeah, it's been a little while though, and while you can't do the sub domain, you should be able to install Word Press in a folder, I thought. I would look into that more either a sub domain or a folder. There's definitely a way to do this. I know stores that did do that. They would use that for their blog for a Shopify store.
Bradley: If you have a custom domain for your Shopify store, then you can absolutely add a blog to a sub domain. All you need to do is map the domain over to Shopify via a DNS service. You can do it in C Panel, but I prefer using something like Cloud Flare or Amazon Route S3. Then you can set the sub domain to point to whatever hosting account you want. You just set an A-record for a sub domain and point to the IP of your host account. That's how you would set up a Word Press blog on a sub domain if you're using a custom domain for a Shopify store.
Adam: Yeah, and just to clear up that last one. You bet you. I'm sorry, I can't see who's asking this, but if they've got an Adam feed, hell yes you can use that to trigger the network.
Bradley: Yeah, I don't know how the formatting works for publishing posts on a Shopify store. If you have a WYSIWYG editor that you can basically create normal type blog posts with, then yeah. You should be able to use if. If it's an Adam RSS feed, that shouldn't create any problems triggering the applets to work in IFTTT. Yeah, there are two things you can do. One, if you're using a custom domain, you have to map the domain over to the Shopify store anyway. If Shopify hosts your store, and you're using custom domain, you have to be able to map it over there anyway. That's going to be required, so in that case, you could use a third party DNS service and create a sub domain anyway. Just point that to whatever hosting account you want. I like said, you just set an A record with the IP address as the record.
It's very simple to do. However, if you don't and for whatever reason, if your blog function within Shopify doesn't give you the functionality you want, then you could aways create just another website that's used specifically for the blog to promote your Shopify store. That's not the most beneficial way to do it, but it's an alternative that will at least provide some results. It won't be as good, like I said, as being able to have a blog on the same domain. There's no doubt, but if that's all you can do, that's all you can do. It's better than nothing.
Adam: There's a ton of tutorials out there for any of these solutions that we talked about. If you want to use Word Press, just Google how to install Word Press blog on Shopify. If you want to just use theirs and syndicate from that link you put out, then you can do that, too.
I'm getting started on that now. My daughter and I are actually building an Amazon store together, and that's kind of a little side project I'm doing with her. It's funny, but she wants to sell unicorns and fake mustaches, and things like that. She's 11. I say, “Anything I can do to get her involved with my business in any way, shape or form, I'm happy to do it.” I'm going to make the case study part of the Master Mind, so that's something that I'm actually looking forward to doing, because I've never done any e-com stuff before at all. We do more than just rank and rent, Toby. You're thinking about local SEO stuff. We've been doing Amazon case studies, excuse me, not Amazon. Affiliate case studies, and we've done plenty of launched at case studies and everything else.
The majority of what I've done throughout my career has been local or lead gen or local consulting. That kind of stuff, but I've expanded over the last year a lot. That's a lot less of my business now than it used to be. We try to teach a lot of other stuff outside of just local stuff, guys, and anybody that's in our more advanced groups would know that. Come join us, Toby. That's what I'm trying to say.
In fact, Edward, since you are a member of Semantic Mastery, we have a discount for outsource Kingpin available to you. I'm not sure exactly how that works at the moment because we've changed some things recently, but you have at least a discount if nothing else, so we'll make sure you get access to that depending on what it is that we've got to do to get it to you. You should go through that because you can set up an outsource hiring funnel that you can put a couple of writers through. Now you're going to have to pay each writer that you give to put through the process, and give them a small writing task. What I do is I've got writers now because I've screened them and found some really good ones over the last several years that I use now.
What I was trying to say was the best thing that you can do is to hire a writer directly. Not going to a content farm and buying shitty spun articles that are just trash content. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about developing a relationship with a writer that you can contact at any time on an as needed basis, and send work to. That is one of the best things that you can have on your team is a contractor available for writing or multiple contractors. That's what I recommend. Most of the SEO work that I do for my clients on my lead gen sites, guys, is I have curators on staff that curate and publish posts. All the heavy lifting has been done for most of my projects, so it's just a matter of maintaining rankings, which basically is just content marketing.
Because of all the IFTTT work and all the external link building and eveything else that has been done already, it's just a matter of maintaining rankings and that just requires content marketing, so the majority of my SEO business now is really just managing a team of curators. I also have writers. There's a difference between a writer and a curator, but I have several writers that I use for various projects that are outstanding as well. One in the UK. One in Africa, and one here in America in the US. I've got three different writers that I use all the time. All three of them I've been able to hire from Upwork or other outsourcing type sites. I ended up pulling them from those escrow sites and hiring them direct. They work direct for me now on an as needed basis. I just pay them on a per article basis or a press release or per article or per word depending on what the project is.
I highly recommend that's what you do is start going through, first of all, the outsource Kingpin. I know you've got so much on your plate, Edward, right now, so I recommend going through the Outsource Kingpin product because it will help you to streamline, trying to screen potential writers. It takes a little bit of work to set up, but trust me. It's going to save you so much time compared to what you would spend if you had to screen every single one of the candidates manually. That's what I recommend is you go out and you start looking for your own, and hiring and screening, and then hiring your own writers for your own projects because having somebody that you can contact via Skype or whatever at any time and just submit projects to and have them do it well, it's going to be critical to growing your business. Do you guys have any comments for that?
Hernan: I totally agree with you, Bradley. The fact that there are some services out there, but the reality that the best way to go is to get a writer that you can treat directly with because if you go to a content farm, you will end up screwing up your website getting the index out. That's not worth the trouble, number one. Number two, if you go to a … How would I put it? There are services out there that are really good, but they will charge on top of each article because they have overhead. They have editors. They have a bunch of things, so if you want like a send and forget, and you're willing to pay premium, that's the way to go. Again, I think that a good content writer for whatever you need; press releases, curation, even big time money sites, and big time projects, I think that having a content and paying them well, treating them as well as you would with any other contractor, I think that's golden.
Once you find one, you need to keep them happy because the content writers that really deliver, and they are on time, and they do not disappear as with any other contractor, basically they are really valuable, number one. Outsource Kingpin will help you achieve exactly that. You will be mind blown with the quality of contractor that you can find using that process.
Bradley: Yeah, and how quickly. As Chris says, here is the second part of his comment to you, Edward. You can train the curators. Here's the thing, for pages on a site, guys, I don't recommend curating. It's okay to curate content within a page. There's no doubt, but general for websites for pages, I have original content written. For posts, I always curate because it's so much more efficient. I don't do any of the curating myself now. I've got a team that does it, but curating is so much more efficient for the blog posts, and not only is it efficient, but it responds well. Google responds well to that type of content. For writers, I would recommend hiring writers. For curators, you can hire just virtual assistants that have no writing experience whatsoever. Obviously, they have to … Let me just explain what I mean.
I've got curators in the Philippines that curate on a lot of my lead gen sites, or when I used to do a lot PBN work, which I don't anymore, but when I used to do a lot of that, they would curate on the PBN sites for back links basically, for link building. They'll do a lot of the curated posts for my lead gen sites, and then all of my curators for money sites, for client sites, I end up having native English speaking curators, which again, I've got my three writers that have been trained in curating. What did I do to train them to curate? I put them through Content Kingpin. I'm not kidding.
My three writers that I just talked about: I've got one in the US, one in the UK, and one in Africa. Those three writers are amazing, but I put them through Content Kingpin to show, it was called Curation Mastery at the time. In fact, it wasn't even a product. I created the product to teach my writers how to curate, and then I created the product out of that training if that makes sense. They do the actual curated posts on the money sites as well. There's a huge difference in how much money you can charge between, for example, having original content written and then having curated content. You can make a hell of a lot more money curating content and paying the curators only a portion of what you charge the client.
For example, if you charge a client, say $35 or $40 per post that you syndicate to their blog or that you publish to their blog, you can pay a curator anywhere $15 or $20 per post. That's on the high end, but as Hernan just mentioned, I always pay my good writers, my good curators top dollar because I want them working for me, and in fact, one of our writers here in the US, her name is Elaine, I've been working with her for over three years now. We give her work all the time. We just sent her another job today for another writing job for a press release. It's crazy, but I've kept some of these writers and curators now for years because they're just really good.
For curating posts, you can charge a client $35 or $40 bucks, and I'm just pulling this number out of the air. I've got a lot of clients like this, but say $35 or $40, and you pay the curator $15 or $20. You make a nice spread, and you don't have to do jack except manage them, which is very easy to do once they get into a routine, and put them through the Content Kingpin course. We have no problem with you sending your virtual assistants that you've hired through the course. We've got no problem with that.
Anyway, that's a whole other stream of revenue in itself, Edward, is content marketing services, and that does not require results based. You can use that in your pitch for the services that it's going to produce results. It's going to help SEO blah, blah, blah, but you can sell just content marketing services alone without even mentioning SEO, and it's an activity based service instead of a results based service. In other words, you get paid just before the publishing of posts whether it produces results or not. If it's part of an SEO package, obviously you're going to want those to produce results, and they usually will if you know what you're doing. Follow our training. You'll be fine. Great question.
If that's all bot traffic I wouldn't, Dean. I would limit that. I've never tested reducing bot crawl rate for SEO, like if it's had effect, but I've had reduced crawl rate before because it was slamming the servers. I did that specifically for that reason. Honestly, I never really tested that specifically for SEO purposes. Marco, that's probably up your ally. You got any comment on that?
Marco: No, it's nothing that I've ever tested. I couldn't answer it properly.
Bradley: Okay, Dean, the worst thing that can happen is if you adjust your crawl rate or reduce the crawl rate, and then it affects rankings. You can always bump it back up, but again, if you've got Google hammering your site with that many bots, yeah, it can put a hell of a load on a server. In fact, if you're on a shared server, a lot of the times, you'll end up getting suspended for that. They'll suspend you're posting account for that kind of stuff. I've had it happen many times. A lot of times, it's been just from like PBN sites that for some reason just got a super amount of bots come crawl it for some reason, and it ended up causing … On PBN hosting, that type of stuff is often times really overloaded IPs, so you're sharing with hundreds of other sites. Yeah, if you're paying for the actual bandwidth usage, then I would recommend that you reduce the crawl rate.
Marco: Let me give him a recommendation if he is going to do this. Because if this is definitely G-Analytics crawl data, if he's being crawled by Google rather than other bots. Determine the source of the bots, because a lot of them, you need to block. That's just .htaccess.
Bradley: Spam bots.
Marco: Right, but if he can determine that those are good sources, and you're going to reduce the crawl rate, then I would start small and see if there's anything significant changes, and continue until you see a change in ranking, a negative change. You may not see one. If you do, then you boost it back up because there's no reason. If you're getting good rankings, even if you have a spike in what you're paying for hosting, this is a good thing. Ranking is what you want because that's what brings you traffic. Except that if it's not affective your bottom line. Your bottom line should reflect your rankings increase and your traffic and the money that the website is making. If none of those are happening, then yeah, you have to reduce that so that you reduce costs. Be careful with whatever it is that you decide to do.
Okay, Michael, the official response would be that the meta description shouldn't affect rankings at all. I've played with it though, and what can happen is if the meta description is over optimized, and there's four things that the bot first looks at when it comes to crawl a page, and that's going to be the SEO title, number one. Number two is the URL. Number three is the page title, and number four is the meta description. The page title meaning the H1 tag. Those four things: If you over optimize across those four things, and the meta description being number four, then yes, it can negatively affect rankings. I've seen that. I've tested that, and I've proven that multiple times if you're over optimized across those four. Typically, if you know what you're doing, you're not going to be over optimized across those four in which case the meta description should have no affect on rankings. That's official word from Google.
However, let me explain. I don't go in and optimize meta descriptions until pages start to rank. What I do is I let the SEO plugin display whatever meta description it wants or whatever meta description Google pulls from the page. In other words, I do set a meta description when I set up the pages on site or post or whatever. I don't set that. I just allow whatever Google data to pull from the page that it wants related to the query that the searcher puts in. However, once that page starts to rank, and again, I'm using rank trackers. Once I know that the page has started to rank on first page, and I'm starting to see traffic coming in either through analytics or if I'm looking at search console, whatever, and I'm seeing data where I'm seeing clicks coming through, that's when I'll go in and I'll start optimizing meta descriptions, and I don't optimize for SEO. I optimize for click through rate. Does that make sense?
Guys, your meta description is short. It should be considered a call to action like ad copy. It should be like ad copy. It should be optimized to compel a visitor, a searcher, a Google user, to click your ad, or excuse me, to click your link over the other links that are above it or below it or both because that's basically ad copy. It should be a call to action. It should be very compelling. Whenever I got to optimize meta descriptions, I'm optimizing for conversions or CTA, or excuse me. Click through rate, CTR, not for SEO. Because if you follow the rules, at least what I follow as far as the four things that the bot looks at first when it comes to crawl a page, again, SEO title, URL, page title or H1, and meta description, then you're only going to want to be optimized in any one of those locations preferably the SEO title for your exact match keyword anyway.
The other three areas you can have co-occurring or LSI-type T words in there, but you don't want to stuff because that would be over optimization. Treat your meta description as ad copy, like a small billboard. Use it to write a compelling call to action.
Marco: That's exactly what I tell my coaching students. I'm giving a lot of stuff away that I teach my coaching students. I don't know why because they pay me a lot of money for it. That's an ad. It's like taking an ad out in the newspaper. What do you want that newspaper to say? What is that add that makes it so compelling over any other because you have to remember that everyone is trying to say the same thing. You have to make yours stand out. It's almost like in Ad words you have a lot less space, so you really have to work on that. In the website and in the meta description, you have a lot more space to try to get that person to click over to your website, and it's one of the most important things that you can do is write that really well so the person will focus on it, see it, and want to click and get that trigger finger affect.
Bradley: That's why I don't do that until after the page starts to rank, and I start seeing some, if nothing else, rank. I don't have to start seeing traffic because typically once I see it rank on first page, then I know that it's time to go optimize the description so that I can get the click through rate up. Does that make sense? So the people will choose my link over other links on the same result page. The reason why is because copywriting is not my strong suit. I'm okay at it, but it takes me forever to do any sort of copywriting. Even writing a stupid AdWords ad sometimes takes me 15 minutes, which is like two short lines of text. It's very, very painful for me write a compelling call to action like that. It's just tough for me.
That's why I always wait until the page ranks to go do it. Because otherwise, if I was trying to optimize the meta descriptions of every page on a site, it would take hours, so I typically will just wait until it start to rank, and then I'll go in and that's my compelling reason for going in and optimizing at that point.
Hernan: Sorry, Bradley. If I can add something, it's that don't worry about it because the shorter the ad, the tougher it is to write compelling ad in I don't know. I think there are like 300 characters or something like that in AdWords. It's crazy. That's number one. Number two, that's why it really pays to ask some entrepreneurs who know about copywriting. I think that it's one of the best skills that we could learn, and one of the things that has been helping me a lot was going through Gary Halbert materials. I've been sharing this with Adam a lot lately. Gary Halbert material, and if you can't writing the ads that you see that they are compelling to you, copying them, and having kind of a side file, and if you see a really good description … You're surfing. You're using Google as a user, then you see, “Okay, why do I click on this specific result and not the other one?”
Take a screenshot and make a side file, and then you will start seeing patterns that will allow you to write better descriptions to your website that entices the click. I think that's valuable, and anyone of us should have some sort of side file or someplace where you can go back and rewrite things so that they are enticing for people to click. I totally agree with Marco. When you are doing AdWords, when you are paying per click, you cannot miss this. You really need to hone in your copywriting skills, but we as SEOs, we take copywriting as a secondary skill and we should be really honing them down.
Bradley: That's interesting because I do a ton of Adword stuff now, and that's something that I've learned to actually use AdWords to help you write your meta descriptions for your pages that your ranking because you can test keywords and ad copy in AdWords adds very easily. As soon as your ad gets approved, which is usually within a couple of hours from the time you submit it to AdWords, it will start sending traffic. As soon as it's approved, it will start sending traffic. If you can get your click through rate up on your AdWords ads, and the only way you do that is through split testing. You constant split test. You always, never stop split testing ads, so you can change the headline or description one or description two or any one of those three, but the point is you always run two ads against each other. Then whatever the better performing ad is after a certain amount of time or a certain amount of clicks, you determine what that threshold is.
Let's say that you allow 50 clicks, and then between those two. Then you determine the winner, and AdWords will tell you which the winner is. Then you pause the underperforming ad, and then write a new add to compete with the ad that was performing better. You do another 50 clicks. You constantly are trying to improve that click through rate. What you'll find is if you're doing both SEO and AdWords for projects, then you can use AdWords to help identify or help to tell you how to write the meta description because you're seeing all the data. You know which meta description or in this case an ad description is producing the highest click through rate. That's the most compelling text or the most compelling copy. You can now add that same copy or a variation of it, something very similar to it, to the meta description of the page that you're also trying to rank for the same keywords. If that make sense.
AdWords will give you the ability to test your meta descriptions and identify or constantly improve your meta descriptions and it's a hell of a lot faster than trying to change a meta description on a page, wait for Google to update the index results because that won't be instantaneous, and then trying to monitor SEO traffic through that and determine if your previous meta description was more compelling than the new one, if that makes sense. It's just as lot faster to test using AdWords is all I'm saying.
What I would do is set up a dummy channel, or excuse me, under one of your personas or just set up a persona. You're talking about using a profile channel instead of a brand channel. Set up a profile, just a dummy profile, create a YouTube channel for that. Then post in the Master Mind, and we'll get a few of us to subscribe to the channel, and then reassign it to a brand page and see if it loses your subscribers. If it does anything to the subscriber count when you go to transfer ownership to the brand page, then you know not to do that. If everything works out okay, then I'd say, go ahead. I don't see why it would be a problem, but I've never actually moved a profile account to a brand account. I've done brand to brand, but never profile to brand. It's just not something that's ever come up for me. Do you guys have any experience on that?
Hernan: A [crosstalk 00:47:11] yeah, in text mode, the html code should do it. [inaudible 00:47:18] my experience is that you need to save it while you are in text RHTML mode. Because if you roll back to the [inaudible 00:47:29] maybe it gets trigger out. Depending on if you want to do it on a widget, you can do it HTML directly. If you want to do it on a post, then you go to the text mode, and then you save the post or you publish the post while it is in text mode. Makes sense?
Marco: Let me just add this. YouTube embed code will be changed by Word Press. They will add their own, but I don't see why it would change any other type of i Frame. It's just HTML and you're allowed to go into your WYSIWYG editor as HTML. It could be switching back and forth between HTML and the text. That's when it might get stripped.
Bradley: All right. Here's a plug in that I use whenever I come across shitty Word Press problems that are due to the editor, the text editor or the WYSIWYG editor or whatever. It happens often in Word Press, guys. It is what it is, but use this plugin. A Word Press plugin called RAW HTML. Once you install and activate that plugin, then all you do is wrap whatever text that you don't want Word Press formatting to strip. You wrap them in these tags, these short codes, RAW and then close RAW. That's it. Once you do that, Word Press won't touch anything between those tags or the short codes. Try that and see if that works for you, Ken.
Next, let's see. [crosstalk 00:49:05]
Adam: Real quick. He just posted. Ken was saying he was talking about WordPress.com
Bradley: Oh, hum. I have no idea. I don't know what you can do on that because I know that on self-hosted blogs you can install plugins like RAW HTML, but I know at wordpress.com, you probably can't, so I'm not sure.
Marco: Try going in it to the widget section, and adding it in the text box.
Bradley: Yeah. That's interesting. I don't know what the deal is with that on wordpress.com, Ken. Sorry. I haven't played with that. Okay, so Edward's up. Yeah, Master Mind is next week Edward. It's every other week. Next Thursday is the next scheduled Master Mind.
Adam: You'll get an email notification.
Bradley: Edward says, “Please explain Hernan's product again. I really have to bring a difficult real estate client to Rank. His competitors have 20,000 links. Help. Not sure where to go for drive stack links. What can I do for him now?” Well, I'll tell you what, Edward. We can give this a lot more attention in Master Mind, so since you're in Master Mind now, if you want to post this question in there, we can start a thread where we can get not only us, but our other members in there to chime in. You'll probably get a hell of a lot more out of it than we could right here now anyway. We can explain a little bit more about what the road map or blueprint that Hernan is working on. That should be available within the next week or two.
In the meantime, just start a thread in Master Mind, and we'll get on it. Okay? Watch out for these fembots. That's awesome. Austin Powers. That's one of my favorite movies. WordPress.com. Thanks, cool. It looks like everybody's wrapped up. That's great. You guys got any other questions, you'd better post them quick because we're going to wrap it up. We've got Syndication Academy Update webinar number ten today. Yes, we have it today. We're going to have that in about five minutes. It will be a short webinar, but I've got some properties I want to share with you guys and a couple of updates, so be there or be square. There is, if you're trying to find out where it's at, go to the Facebook group. Click on the events tab, and you'll see the upcoming event.
Adam: I've got a question for you, Bradley, because you embedded files and folders and everything on a free Word Press blog for SEO Virginia.
Bradley: Yeah, we can go look at it. All I did was just grab the i Frames and put them in there.
Adam: I don't understand why he's [crosstalk 00:51:38]. It could just be the template that he's using, right?
Bradley: Might be. Here we go. Number two. Look at this, guys. This is what I love about this.
Adam: I showed that yesterday.
Bradley: Yeah, so wordpress.com site, and it has zero content except for this right here. This is the only content in this post. Everything else is just embeds, and it's ranked number two for SEO Virginia, and it has been for months. It's awesome. Yeah, all I did was just go into the text editor and just grab the embeds codes for each one of these files, and installed it. It was done on May 16, 2015, so it's been almost two years.
Adam: Ken, I don't know what probably you're running into, but maybe you should change templates, and try that. Just a really simple template. Nothing with all this fancy garbage. Just something really, really simple. [crosstalk 00:52:39]
Bradley: Okay guys. I think that's it. Thanks everybody for being …
Adam: I think Bradley is switching. Yeah, you're back.
Bradley: Thanks everyone for being able to see you in Syndication Academy webinar in just a few minutes.
In episode 122 of the weekly Hump Day Hangouts by Semantic Mastery, one viewer asked about the correct channel URL to submit to when one is setting up a branded IFTTT network.
The exact question was:
I'm in on VideoPowerHouse. I have 1 major goal of ranking this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-qeIO4Iq4 and I am already planning my silo (Great training, thanks). The Channel for this business is older. When I'm not logged in to YT, I get this url as the channel url: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7JZKoSb-P8lorPALsMZDKg
If I'm logged in as the user which controls the channel, and I click on creator studio, then click “”view channel””, I get the following url as my channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/BobbleFactory
Which is the correct channel url for me to submit if I setup a branded IFTTT network? I may not be able to attend today, so tag me and I'll see your reply
In episode 122 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked about the team's favorite way to protect anonymity via proxies.
The exact question was:
What is your favorite way to protect anonymity via proxies? We use whoer.net as a guide, always checking for a 100% before working on posting for clients in multiple locations, but somehow the google search at the bottom of our search query shows our subnet, even when using a firefox addon called location guard…
In episode 122 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked the team what email solution they would recommend for a small business with 3 employees.
The exact question was:
What is your recommendation for a small business email solution for 3 employees? (1) use their website hosting company (2) use Gmail and customize it so it doesn’t look like a gmail account (3) other. And how do you do #2?
In episode 122 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked if showing source code for both mobile and desktop versions of a site can cause duplicate content issues.
The exact question was:
My question relates to mobile specific design. I've been using the Beaver Builder page builder which is an incredible web design tool, and Beaver Builder allows you to create different layouts that will only be shown on mobile if the site doesnt look quite right on a mobile. So you can copy a certain part of your website and change it slightly just for mobile users which results in a better experience for all devices as you can modify the design or text or whatever you want for any device, but in the source code it shows both layouts. If the content is the same, will this be classed as duplicate content? It states in the source code what is for desktop and tablet and what is only for mobile so its very much like dynamic web design but both are there, even tho the mobile version of that specific piece of content is served just to the mobile users only, both are in the source code. Do you think could cause issues?
If I have two full two tier networks…what would be the best starter package for GSA / FCA link package from serp space? Id like to start with the smallest package($80)…but I am unsure of which network ring or properties I submit to you guys
Adam: All right, we are live. I'm sure we were live earlier like always. Anyways welcome everybody. Today is the 8th of March 2017. This is Hump Day Hangouts number 122 and we got almost everybody here. I guess it appears random so I'm gonna quit guessing where everybody's at and I'm just gonna say their names, so Hernan how's it going?
Hernan: Hey Adam. Hey Adam, I see you there. Hey Bradley over there. I'm pretty excited to be here.
Adam: What's up with the tank top? It's pretty warm down there?
Adam: Gotcha, I know. We're only separated by nearly, I don't know, like 10,000 miles or something.
Hernan: Yeah maybe.
Adam: Gotcha, all right well Marco speaking of weather man, how's it going?
Marco: It's nice man. It can't get any better. It's like 80, 85 during the day and it gets really cold at night. About 70.
Adam: That's tough. All right, moving right along. Bradley how you doing?
Bradley: Good, happy to be here.
Adam: Outstanding. Well I'll just launch right into it everybody. I think by now you probably know if you were interested in video powerhouse the launch is now over, so we'll have a sign up for you if you want to find out some more information about how you could get involved in that later on but if you were looking for launch bonuses and stuff that is gone. Just wanted to make that clear to everybody. We do have a very cool webinar coming up, so Marco do you want to tell the viewers what they can checkout next week.
Marco: Birds eye view, how much can I say without giving an arm? All right, I'm going to be talking about this during the webinar so it's okay. It's public. It's okay to talk about it now. What really bugs me about our space, internet marketing, SEO, just the whole deal is how people are mislead and the problem with human psychology is that if we're told often enough that something works, we tend to believe that it does even though it doesn't and so we keep trying to make it work because we're told that it's supposed to work. Now that's down right, it's either misleading, dishonest. I mean you name it. There's other people who don't know what the hell they're doing and they're selling in our space, right? And then there's other people who actually know the things that work and the things that will actually help people but they don't give everything. They call it informative but incomplete. I mean get the fuck out … Am I allowed to say that on Hump Day? Get the freak out of here man.
Bradley: Hump Day we want to try to keep it a little bit cleaner.
Marco: How can you do that man? You can expect more during the webinar trust me 'cause I'm angry. I'm upset, so what I'm going to do this coming Monday I'm gonna tell it like it is. I'm gonna say what's working and I'm gonna say why and I'm not going to show what I'm doing but I will get into what I've done to show that it is working. Look, let me tell you because I had a talk with my guy. You know how Mike Pierce and I go way back to when he was doing the social explosion plugin for Network Empire and I was a beta tester for that, so we're talking three, four years back. I can't remember how long it was.
Bradley: At least four years now.
Marco: Right. I was talking to him and you know he said that from conversation that we had we actually changed the way that SEO is being done. Now I don't see myself that way. I don't see myself as influencing the whole SEO community and the way that search engine optimization is done. I will go into what he said and the discoveries and the things that we know, right, because he's one of those guys who tells it like it is. I mean he doesn't just give you garbage. He'll give you actionable shit just like we do.
On Monday, even though I will go back to a previous webinar that I did last year on Iframes, it's not just going to be, I'm not just going to regurgitate the same information. Of course I have to do the foundation, right? I have to do the foundation but the rest of it I think is going to be on point and people who miss it, I'm sorry. I'm sorry and I feel sorry for you 'cause I'm in one of those moods where I'm bound to say anything.
Adam: Awesome, all right well the link is in the page [crosstalk 00:05:07]. Oh go ahead.
Bradley: I was gonna say quick question though. Are we, it's free to attend the webinar but only on Monday correct? If you're not there on Monday then we're gonna make it available but it's gonna be behind a payment gateway after the initial webinar. Am I right on that guys?
Adam: Yeah we had a few people, not a few, we've had several people who kept saying literally people were like, “You guys should charge for this,” and we're like, “Okay, well we'll do that.” So there it is. That's the way it's gonna be. We want to keep providing this and Marco, he's the one giving the information and he said, “I want to do this free up front, provide the chance for people to see this stuff.” So that's the way we're gonna do it but after that yeah we're charging.
Marco: Remember that most of the stuff that I give away for free, people are charging literally thousands of dollars for. You know this and they're not giving everybody everything that they're supposed to be giving them. I'm going to give it for free. Come get five, $10,000 worth of information for free. I'm not gonna pitch, although I will say what it is that I use to get the results that I get. Does that make sense? I'm not gonna pitch. I'm not just continue saying oh this rocks, and this and this and this and just mention my product over and over and over. I'm not going to do it at the end. I mean people know us well enough to know where they should go for stuff that works. That's just my two cents.
Adam: All right real quick I'm gonna hop back on. I've got Adam's quick book report moment. Now this is embarrassing. I noticed that this was in the background, so I just picked this up. This is kind of sad for somebody who's selling the click funnels. I've actually never read this book, so I'm gonna read that book this week and then another one that I'm reading and I'll definitely tell you guys about but the Blue Ocean Strategy. This is more on the business side of things but maybe I'll do a quick review of that, like a two or three minute video but so far it's pretty cool. It's about just kind of redefining the boundaries in terms of your business, which you know you can do for clients or whether you're doing SEO instead of just being another person in that shark filled water it's kind of defining your own game so anyways, good stuff.
Bradley: Awesome, thanks Adam. Okay so I guess we can get into questions now.
Adam: Let's do it.
Bradley: … You guys can hear me again.
Adam: We can hear you. [crosstalk 00:07:43]
Hernan: Yeah we can see your screen.
Bradley: I know there's an odd delay when you screen share on this new [inaudible 00:07:51] app. Okay so Mark O'Connell's up first. Hey Mark. He's been attending our hangouts for god knows how long, long time so thanks for showing up again Mark. He asked the first part, Marco it's directed at you and your back talking about using Varidesk or a stand up desk type thing, which could help. I'm not going to read that to you because you can read that but thanks for that Mark, that's a good suggestion. I know a lot of people are doing that stuff now, the stand up desk. Converting their desk to stand up desk using Varidesk or other sort of products like that. I've rad a lot of stuff about I guess sitting down now is what they consider is bad for your health like smoking was 20 years ago or something, I don't know.
Adam: I've heard the same thing. That or just if you can't do the standing desk, just get up and move. Don't sit there for an hour or two at a time.
Bradley: Yeah every hour get up and move around for five or 10 minutes.
Hernan: I can't sit around for an hour anyway. I have to stand up. I have to sit down. I have to lie down. I'm beyond Varidesk, I need surgery. I have to go have surgery. I'm beyond that. Once I heal and go through the whole process then yeah that would be an option so thanks Mark.
Duplicate Content Issues For Mobile And Desktop Website Source Codes
That's a good question. I guess it depends on if they have some sort of mark up to explain that in the code. That would be something that maybe, for example, a canonical would work with a mobile version of a site which is basically an exact duplicate of the full version of the site but just in a mobile friendly format. Then that could be considered duplicate content as well but a lot of times it depends. The way that I've set them up in the past has always been on a like an m dot subdomain. In other words, whatever the domain is I'd put a m dot subdomain on it. So it would be m.domain.com and then I would install the mobile version of the site but all I would do is set a canonical in the header, the HTML header of the site, the mobile version of the site to point to the corresponding pages on the full version of the site.
You also have to think that, and again I don't know this for sure, but if you have the mobile site on a subdomain it's considered a different domain. So I don't know that that would cause a problem anyways. Now I'm not sure that that's the case here Mark because you don't state whether it's on a separate subdomain or if it's just a redirect script that the text when a mobile browser is viewing the site and then redirects them to the mobile version of the site then that may be the case but I would imagine there should be some sort of markup that would eliminate that as being a potential issue. What are your thoughts Marco?
Marco: If it's on m.website.com, then the canonical should go from mobile to desktop right now as Google fully moves over to mobile, it should go the other way. It should go from desktop to the mobile. That's the way that you're supposed to be canonicalizing right now. I would just do it through the mobile all together because they're moving to it if they haven't done it all already. Now-
Bradley: You mean canonicalize the desktop to the mobile?
Bradley: Oh wow.
Marco: Absolutely, that's the way it's being recommended right now and that's the way that I'm recommending it to all of the people that I talk to.
Marco: Well it's mobile first.
Bradley: Yeah I know and I get that. Old habits die hard.
Marco: I know, yeah.
Bradley: That's quite a shift.
Marco: If you have a responsive website, and we're not talking about a subdomain, a canonical will take care of everything, right?
Bradley: Yeah, well he says right here at the last part of the question it states, “In the source code what is for desktop and tablet and what is only for mobile so it's very much like dynamic web design but both are there even though the mobile version of the specific piece of content is served just to the mobile users only both are in the source code. Do you think this could cause issues? Sorry for the long comment.” No Mark, I don't think it does. Again I don't know because I'm not that versed on mobile stuff yet. It's not something I spend a lot of time studying at the moment but if it's got separate mark up, then I'm assuming that's gonna resolve any issues but what I would do is reach out to Beaver Builder support and ask them specifically that question because I'm sure that that's been brought to their attention and if it hasn't thus far, you can be the one to bring it to their attention and let them address it for you and resolve any potential errors or problems before they arise. Okay?
Marco: Isn't Beaver Builder a plugin for WordPress anyways? He's doing WordPress.
Bradley: I don't know but I'm afraid to do a Google search on Beaver Builder on a public webinar.
Marco: I'm pretty sure. I mean I'm almost 100% sure that Beaver Builder is a WordPress plugin and so the template that you're using should be taking care of the canonicalization anyway, so I don't think that there's any problems either way unless they've omitted that, which talk to them about canonicals.
Bradley: If we had more time, anybody remember the movie The Naked Gun?
Email Solution For A Small Business With 3 Employees
Let me just give you an example. Take a look at this guys. I got a ton of aliases. See that? That's what I'm saying. I always do everything right through Gmail. The reason why is because Gmail is like industry standard number one. It's just easy to use, we're all familiar with it and in my opinion it's the best way to set it up.
Marco: The only problem with that is if the receiver, the person who receives the email, is using Outlook and Outlook will expose the original account. It'll say, if your Gmail is Bradley Benner and you're sending a semantic message email, it'll be [email protected] on behalf of-
Marco: Outlook, I'm pretty sure, I think Outlook is the only one that'll do that, that will expose what's behind the alias.
Bradley: Okay. Well the more complicated route that I don't like to do but you can use Google Apps and set up a business email account through Google that way.
Adam: Yeah Google Suite, which is pretty easy to set up and then you get your own storage associated with it, which is kind of nice. I use that for some stuff.
Bradley: Yeah you can do that. Again, I just stick with regular Gmail but that's another way that you can do it.
Adam: One cool thing about that I will say is that you can have several inboxes open and Google knows that you can do that. I have two or three Gmail tabs open in the same browser and it knows the difference between them so it's kinda nice.
Bradley: Cool. So he said-
Marco: The only-
Bradley: I'm sorry go ahead.
Marco: The only problem with that is that if you use Google Suite you won't be able to sign into Hump Day now.
Marco: You won't be able to watch anything semantic messaging. You'll have to do it through a regular Gmail account.
Bradley: Yeah, good point. However we may be eliminating that as an issue over the next couple months but we'll talk about that at a later date. All right so he says how do you do number two? Scott go to YouTube and search SMTP settings for Gmail or Gmail setup alias. Just go to YouTube and search for it. I'm sure you'll find plenty of tutorials that will help you set that up. It's very, very simple to do. And C-Panel, if you're using your web hosting you just click on configure email client and it will give you all the details that you need to add into the Gmail when you set up the SMTP settings. It'll give that information to you, so just go to your web mail section in c-panel and then go to the web mail address and click on configure email client and it'll basically expand like a drop down and then it'll give you all of your host. It's usually host.domain.com or whatever your host is or mail.domain.com and then it'll give you your port number and TTL or SSL or something like that, whatever. It's really simple to do and you can figure it out. Just go to YouTube and find a tutorial.
Adam: Yeah I would just say for this once it gets out of control it's not like having more and more layers is gonna do it. Eventually you need to go through and maybe you create an archive section where if you haven't used it or you don't even know what it is you just throw it in there so you still have it in case you need it but it takes a little bit of upkeep. You can't just have 100,000 bookmarks that are easily accessible.
Bradley: By the way, if you're using Xmarks or some sort of bookmark sync device or app, excuse me, one thing you have to do is go to your Chrome settings and make sure you disable the sharing of bookmarks between Chrome browsers. It's in the settings because otherwise what happens is if you make a change on one device but not on another, then it'll try to sync with whatever … There will be a mismatch and it'll throw an error code. I made a mistake, I bought a new Chromebook in December last year just a couple months ago and I bought a new Chromebook and I forgot to change that setting once I got online and I told it to sync with Xmarks from that Chromebook and it screwed all of my bookmarks up. We're talking seven years of accrued bookmarks and it's been a nightmare. I'm still struggling with that now and that was back in December. I just recommend if you're gonna use Xmarks that you make sure that you disable in Chrome the sharing of bookmarks or syncing of settings. That's what it is and there's a specific checkbox for that, okay?
Favorite Way To Protect Anonymity Via Proxies
All right Jane is up. She says, “What is your favorite way to protect anonymity,” I can't pronounce that word, “Via proxies? We use hero.net as a guide. Always checking for 100% before working on posting for clients in multiple locations but some on the Google search at the bottom of our search query shows our subnet even when using a Firefox add-on called Location Guard.” The only thing that I would be, what I look for mainly is web rtc. First of all I'll use Foxy Proxy, which we have training aside of syndication academy and that kind of stuff. But anyways, I add the IP the proxy to Foxy Proxy and then I'll make sure that if I'm using a proxy that's not in the same time zone as my local computer, my PC, then I'll make sure that I switch the time on my PC to match the time zones up, okay, because otherwise there will be a basically it won't be synced. The IP time or proxy time will be different than what your local computer time will show if that makes sense and that will show that you could be using a proxy.
The other thing is Web RTC. Make sure that's disabled and if you're saying that you're hitting 100% in hero.net than I'm sure you already know about Web RTC but if you don't just go to Google and search, or you can go to ipleak.net. Ipleak.net, right, and scroll down to the bottom of the page and right here where it says what is Web RTC leaks and it basically tells you exactly what to do right here. It's very, very simple to do and also if you're using Chrome there's apparently an extension called Web RTC network limiter. I have not tested that because I do most of my dirty SEO work in Firefox, not in Chrome, but just so you know I'm pretty sure that you're aware of that already but for those of you that aren't but other than that I don't even really try to hit 200% but I would recommend, Jana, if you're doing a lot of this kind of stuff if you don't already have Browsio you should. You should get it because then you can assign IP's or proxies to specific profiles and then you always log in using the same IP to those, like you always login to those profiles using the corresponding or associated IP, right? The designated IP.
Here's the thing: with Browsio, guys, I'm telling you it's the way to go. Going forward if we come out with a syndication academy V3, we're gonna be basically integrating Browsio with it because guys you should be building digital footprints now. You should be building digital footprints if that makes sense. We talk about that doing what we do with interlinking all of our accounts and getting a presence on as many properties as possible and not trying to hide that, especially what I mean is like the branded foot prints guys. You want that but even for persona based stuff guys, it's only natural for people to browse the web that the vast majority, 98% of people out there, don't even know what cookies and cash are, so they never clean any of that stuff.
You want to start accruing cookies and basically allowing the networks to start developing a profile for your personas or your brands so that it makes that association and it makes it more genuine and more real. So again in Syndication Academy v3 if we develop that and come out with it, we're gonna be encouraging using something like Browseo very heavily because it's awesome. You can start building out or accruing a digital footprint, which is going to make your profile so much stronger and so much more relevant and valid if that makes sense because it's like an entity validation, right? It's another way for Google to validate that it's not a spam account is when it has accrued cookies and a digital profile.
Keep that in mind Jana. Again it sounds like you're doing client work and everything else, then I highly recommend that you invest in Browsio. It would totally be worth it and that way you can assign specific proxies to each client that you have and always login using that same IP and start building digital footprints for those clients. Okay, it's gonna make a world of difference going forward, all right?
Correct Channel URL To Submit When Setting Up A Branded IFTTT Network
I'm pretty sure, I'd have to double check this, but I'm pretty sure that the vanity URL, in this case this one, let's go take a look at it. You could do something like, I know Marco likes to use where go's but I like to use this one. To each their own but if we take a look at them I'm pretty sure it just resolves … Okay, so I thought the vanity URL resolved to the ugly URL but it looks like it might be the other way around so let's try that one 'cause if we're looking at this you can see that it goes, it's a 200 test okay and it goes directly to that URL. I know it's small on your end guys but you can check this on your own. Let me just check one more but they both resolve to the same place, so it doesn't make any difference. Yeah, it looks like both of those URLs, they're not even set up as redirects but they both land at the same location. It shouldn't make any difference and just to double check this let's just take a look at this. We're gonna expose your channel here.
Marco: If I could just make a comment.
Marco: One is a user and one is a channel. Now if you look for the channel Bobble Factory there is no channel Bobble Factory with the-
Bradley: You mean with user-
Marco: Right. Not user but channel. Look at the first one. The first one says channel.
Marco: And then it has that long string.
Bradley: Right, that's this one.
Marco: The user resolves fine because he's the user of the channel. If you checked the channel URL with the long string that's the channel but there is no vanity channel called Bobble Factory.
Bradley: Yeah but what I'm saying is if you remove this user right here to where it's just youtube.com/bobblefactory-
Bradley: Then it resolves to the same location, see?
Marco: Right. That's to the user, not the channel.
Bradley: But I mean okay it says user in the URL but it's still the channel URL, it's just the vanity URL.
Bradley: Does that make sense? Maybe I'm not understanding the disconnect here because they both land at the same place. If I'm not logged in, if I'm in a clean browser and I visit both of those URLs, I'm gonna get to the same location. It's not gonna make any difference, right?
Marco: I mean- [crosstalk 00:27:01]
Bradley: Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm asking.
Marco: Try the long string …
Bradley: That's this one.
Marco: … With the user. Change channel to user and see if that redirects.
Bradley: But why would we do that? He wasn't asking about that. I'm just curious, I'm not understanding.
Marco: I know, but I'm just checking to see where everything's going because I don't know why that's looking like that. He should have a channel that's called that, whatever it is that it's called.
Bradley: But that's what this URL is, this one. See let me just explain guys because this might be … Like, look if I change this out, if you go into YouTube and you look at your custom URL, if we change this to I think just a ‘C' that's the display URL that they give you, right? Let me check it and see. Yeah, no it's saying this one's not existing so apparently not but what I'm saying is it says user Bobble Factory, you could even just remove that and just have it say YouTube.com/bobblefactory and if I hit enter-
Marco: Then it resolves back to the user, right.
Bradley: It resolves to the same location, which is the same as this long string here.
Bradley: It doesn't matter either way as far as SEO or branding or interlinking in my opinion. It makes no difference. I like to use the branded URL or the vanity URL because it just gets that brand term in there again if that makes sense. I prefer using this one if that makes sense but honestly I don't think it makes any difference as far as SEO because they both resolve to the same location.
You should be linking to the playlist URL, the share URL, and you should also, depending on what type of silo method, and this is all covered in YouTube Silo Academy, depending on if you're trying to rank one specific keyword or if you're trying to rank all of them in together, there's different types of siloing methods but trust me, you're gonna want to use the video description and the comments for both okay and I'm doing a lot of YouTube case study work right now and so I'm doing a lot of heavy stuff in there guys. MasterClass, which by the way we have that in about 30 minutes, we're gonna be going over some of that today and we're also doing a lot of YouTube stuff right now, okay?
As far as your question, yeah put your six keywords under the main keyword in that playlist and then you can use the same videos or create a playlist for each city and county. Yeah you can do that, that's not a problem. Guys you can have a video in more than one playlist, that's fine. What you want to do is just make sure your silo's are logical. I mean that's it, you just want to make sure that they're logical. They can be silos based upon geographic location, like that's the common denominator is the location, or they could be industry or they could be both really. It just depends. You just gotta make sure that it's logical. It's really that simple guys. When it comes to siloing stuff, it's just does it make sense for this hierarchy? The way that you have those keywords stacked, does it make sense? If it doesn't make sense, if it seems out of place somewhere, then don't do it basically.
Any comments on that guys?
Hernan: I like that last statement really. If it seems out of place, don't do it. I totally agree with that because your optimizing for the user first, you know, so I really like that last statement that you said.
Using The Same Google Account To Rank A Video Using Google Properties or Drive Stacks
Marco: Yeah I think we're getting into RYS territory here. I don't know how much I'd be willing to give away as far as Drive stacking. If he's in RYS Academy I'd be more than happy to guide him more in whatever it is that he's trying to do but same Google account, it does make a difference by the way.
Marco: It does because I mean your Drive account is associated. Everything in there gets all of that love, right, the spider web silo as we call it and then it goes out from there to wherever it's directed [crosstalk 00:32:32].
Bradley: So you're saying you should create it with the same account or have it in a different account?
Marco: Yeah I would say that it needs to be in the, a drive, that's why we call it a Drive stack. It's a self-contained Drive. I don't know if you consider it, I don't know what you consider it. It's just a place where you store those files and they're interlinked and we add all of our secret sauce to it so that everything is relevant and we're pushing relevancy everywhere.
Marco: I don't see how having it on another account … I mean you could push the relevancy but it wouldn't be as relevant as if you had it in the same account.
Bradley: Well there you have it, that's a good answer then Paul. I've done both to let you guys know and I've seen results using both methods. A lot of the times, for example, if I've got existing videos out there that were on another account and I get a Drive stack built under a persona account to push relevancy to that video then it's not gonna be in the same account and it still provides results. Maybe not as good a results according to what Marco's saying but I've still been able to produce results that way. If you can get better results, having the video in the same account then absolutely do that but again I've tested both methods and I've been able to achieve results both ways.
Jeanie is up, this is a good question. I can show this. Guys, am I allowed to give away my Yelp listing strategies right now on Hump Day Hangouts? We can talk about that can we or is that Master Class Mastermind stuff only?
Adam: Leave this one up to you.
Bradley: If it's up to me I'm gonna give it away 'cause it's just Yelp.
Adam: All right, let's do it.
Bradley: All right. You guys want to see a Yelp listing strategy, let me do this. All right we're gonna pull up a Yelp listing here, so let me just pull up, I don't know, think of something. Let's just say HVAC contractor Culpepper which is where I live. I've got it set on Bing as my default, which I teach you guys to do so apparently I'm drinking my own Kool-Aid here. Let me try this again. Son of a bitch, sorry guys. HVAC Culpepper, VA. All right let's see if we can find a Yelp listing here. Right here, well that's fine. This is a Yelp index page but that will work. Let's go click on one of these guys that has some photos, like this guy right here. We'll click on this one. All right guys so yeah you can get away with basically just a whole bunch of links to Yelp listings. Well first of all, make sure the Yelp listing is completed in it's entirety. Complete everything you can on the Yelp page, right, so when you're setting up the listing complete as much as you possibly can. I mean everything that you can fill in, do it. Put as many photos in as it allows you to. Make sure that your photos are geo tagged, that you have the meta data, EXIF data, all of that stuff has been added. When I say EXIF data guys I mean coordinates, that kind of stuff.
Mark everything up first. Get various keywords in there so that you're not, don't hammer every single picture with the same keywords or the same keyword and also remember when you're optimizing or adding meta data of the files themselves, you want every individual file to have multiple variations of the keywords too. You don't want to hit the same keyword like in all the different locations. What I mean by that is if you're on Windows, if it's a JPEG file or JPG, either one, you can right-click on it and click on Properties and then click Details and from Details you can add a bunch of meta data. You can do it that way or you can use something like, and I was just playing with this yesterday, there's an online tool called the Exifer. It's so you can add Exif data. So if i say ‘Exif tools', something like that it's called the Exifer.net or something like that. Let me see if I can find it.
Right here, this is it. The Exifer.net. It's a very strange name but anyways this right here you can use to add coordinates and stuff like that. There's also a download. This is all done online, that's why I like this one but I've been using and I've got it up here in my browser called Geosetter. I've been using that for seven years now and that's this right here. You guys see this? And this is how you can add basically meta data and everything to the actual files. You can add geo coordinates and everything else. Make sure that all of that is done first. Then when you go to once you completed the Yelp listing, let me show you a few things. Number one you got the main Yelp listing URL. You guys see that, that's pretty standard right? Well let's show you something else, and this is one of our Mastermind members brought this to my attention, David Ross, and it was awesome because I had never even thought to do this and he brought this to our attention.
If you go look at the page source guys from your Yelp listing, scroll down a little bit and you're gonna see this right here. You guys, this is freaking gold. Those are all canonicals guys. They're basically the Yelp in different languages, in different versions. Everyone of these URL's guys are canonicalized or basically to this main listing here. Look at all these additional target URL's right here you have to build links too. You guys see that? That's freaking gold right there because everyone of these could be different link targets, okay? That's the second method. The first method is number one, complete the profile and that includes as many photos as you can with all of your photos optimized with meta data, geo tags, everything, right?
Number two, hit the source code of the listing, copy all of your canonical URL's or alternate URL's, foreign language, whatever you want to call it. Get all of those. Put those in a spreadsheet too, right, that you can use as link building targets. Lastly, you want to go through each one of the images now that you've got all the images, click on each image guys, copy the URL right out of that. Each one of these images has a separate URL. Watch the address bar, when I click to the next image it changes. Well there's only two images on here, maybe three. There is is, there's another one. Each one of these URLs guys is another target URL, does that make sense?
I didn't give it all away but I gave a lot of it away, so is that acceptable? Are you guys okay with that?
Adam: Good to go.
Bradley: Hopefully that made sense. [crosstalk 00:39:13] What'd you say?
Hernan: I guess that's fine.
Bradley: Yeah, okay cool. All right hopefully you guys got something out of that because you can do a lot with Yelp listings. They rank like crazy. I've got a lot of lead gen stuff throughout there that is like the organic part, I rank the Yelp listings very easily even if the websites themselves don't rank as well in organic as I would like, I end up getting Yelp listings to rank really well. Okay so Tara's up. She says, “I have a client who's site was spammed by competitor with over 22,000 links using his main anchor text. He already had about 50,000 links. Normally I would correct the anchor ratio but with 22,000 links I think that would look bad. Would a disavow be a better option here or is there some other trick that I'm not thinking about?” That's a good question Tara.
Look, all I ever do with that stuff is disavow it and I've had to do that a few times now. I've got one client in particular that there is a relentless spammer out there. It's an ex-employee, he thinks it's an ex-employee, who constantly just adds negative links like spam links and really nasty stuff too like porn links with really bad anchor texts, stuff like that. So about once every six months I do an audit on his back link profile and scrape any of the new URLs that pop up and just add them to the disavow file and resubmit and that's what I do honestly because there's so much and I'm open to hear the opinions of my partners as well but literally I know some people say don't use the disavow. I've never had it ever cause any problems for me. I've been able to recover penguin penalties using disavow and I've also been able to prevent negative SEO from causing problems using disavow but I know that some people say not to use it but again I've never experienced anything negative from it so that's just what I do because it saves time.
What do you guys think?
Marco: I've never used a disavow tool. I never plan to use it, so but that's just my take on it. I know people who have had to test, I know people who have not. It is what it is, it's Google.
Hernan: I've done it. I've done disavow tools with good results but Tara in any case disavow tools will help you until some point but I think that you will need to go out there and find some really good quality back links to offset the damage of it. What I would do is to go out, maybe get a couple of editorial links. If you can get like a guest post because it's a client or a press release to offset that doing it strictly URL and/or branded anchor texts so you can get a press release out there, you can get a couple of editorial back links like really powerful back links. That will definitely off set the 50,000 back links that they are building to you in addition to the disavow, you know?
Bradley: Yeah. Yeah one trick with the disavow file that I found was whenever you submit the disavow file you want to also submit it to several indexing services. So all the links that are in the disavow file you want to submit to indexing services because that's how Google kno-, like for example if you submit a disavow file and you don't send them through indexers as well then Google is gonna take it's sweet old time for it to naturally go re crawl those links, especially if they're spammy links. A lot of those are like spambots or honey pots or those sites where like blog comments for example where there's dozens and dozens of paginated comments. Those links are very, the bots don't crawl those type of links very often because it recognizes that it's basically a spam point.
It's rare that Google will come crawl those types of links a lot of the time. You have to get the Google bot to come crawl those links again and it will cross reference the disavow file and if there's a match between URL's, it will discredit or disassociate that URL from your profile. It doesn't take it away from your profile. The links will still show in your back link profile but Google just won't count that link, either negative or good. It'll be neutral, it won't have any effect. According to Google it's just been disregarded all together although again it doesn't eliminate the URL, it just disregards it.
That's why if you take the URL's from the disavow file and submit them to several indexers or if you have an index service that is indexing really, really well like a really high success rate on indexing, then just sent it to that one. My point is you want to get the Google bots to come crawl those URL's because that's when it'll recognize that there's a file been submitted and it will make that match and then it will discredit or just disregard that URL all together if that makes sense because that's the trick with disavow files guys 'cause otherwise you can submit a file and it can be months before you see any results but if you send it through a link indexing service you can generally see results fairly quickly, okay?
Ranking Yelp Listings In Google SERP
Okay cool. Let's keep moving. Roboform, yeah that's another one. Oh wow there's not a whole lot of additional questions, good 'cause we're almost out of time anyways. Don Franklin says, “I know Mastermind members get a discount on RYS but I think Mastermind members should have RYS included as there is so much overlap and it's a piece of the puzzle needed for Mastermind members. Just my two cents.” Well we appreciate that Don but it's not gonna happen. Let's see Paul says, “I can see how we use this Yelp strategy to land new clients that are not ranking on first page.” Yeah Paul, it's very, very powerful. That's something that, you guys you can create a whole separate service just out of optimizing Yelp pages, did you know that? I mean literally, you could contact and I've done this in the past. You could contact people, like you can go start scraping Yelp listings and by you I mean a VA. You can hire a virtual assistant to go out and scrape whatever your preferred industry is. Remember I always recommend that you niche down. Get in one vertical and stay there because you can scale in one vertical so much faster than you can trying to serve multiple verticals or multiple industries.
Select an industry, hire a virtual assistant to go out and start scraping Yelp listings for multiple cities. Like cities surrounding you or anywhere in the world really. It doesn't make any difference but start scraping the listings in the cities that you designate and look for people that have non-verified or non-claimed Yelp listings. Look for companies because you can then actually reach out, and again this is all work that the VA can do. The VA can email, you give them the email, text, give them an email program that they can run through. Use something like point of mail or Yesware or some sort of email tracking client or an app that will notify of you opens and clicks and things like that and send out emails to those non-verified Yelp listings and give them a soft pitch and say, “Look we can optimize your Yelp listing and we can help it to rank on Google, get you more phone calls.”
Not only Google, guys, but there's a ton of traffic in Yelp period. You can use all of that in your sales pitch and again if you're having a VA do it it's basically hands off and it's a numbers game. You just gotta constantly continually send out emails to those customers or excuse me those businesses that have non-verified Yelp listings and you'll get some. Some will bite and when they do it's easy money because you can charge 500 bucks let's say to optimize a Yelp listing and that includes optimizing the images, completing the profile, confirming the listing, all of that and then you can charge them on a monthly recurring basis to rank it for them and to keep it optimized.
That's something else you could do. You could also manage comments and things like that. My point is you can turn it into, first of all it could be a one-off, just optimizing the listing but then you can turn it into recurring revenue and it's also a foot in the door strategy for additional marketing services, okay? It's a really, really good strategy and by the way inside Yelp now when you're logged in, I'm not logged into Yelp now, but you can actually send messages to people inside of Yelp. I prefer sending emails out first and then if they don't respond then going back and sending a question via the Yelp contact form because not always but sometimes they'll get notified of it and that'll go for people that have verified their listings, so it's a confirmed listing, but it's not optimized.
If somebody has confirmed their listing but they don't have any images, there's no description, they don't have any reviews or maybe they have negative reviews. That's a whole other strategy, is going out and contacting people with negative reviews and saying that you can help to optimize their listing and help to set them up. That's reputation management stuff. That's something else you can do in Yelp because Yelp is a huge, huge community with a ton of traffic, okay? It's a pretty good service that you can create a whole other stream of revenue just from that.
Okay cool, it looks like we're done. Awesome thanks for the extra indexing tip. Never thought of that and that's exactly what I have in mind Bradley-, okay. All right guys since we don't have any other questions you want to wrap it up?
Adam: I think so.
Hernan: Sounds good.
Marco: Sounds good.
Adam: Don't forget everybody we got the webinar next Monday so I will pop the link in real quick again and get signed up for it. Like we said try to make it live if you can. Obviously a valuable webinar. Tons of content, some good stuff so get signed up and we'll see you guys there.
Bradley: Awesome, thanks everybody for being here. Masterclass starts in 10 minutes, so we'll see those of you there. See you.