In episode 217 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked about the team's thoughts on using Firebase Dynamic Links as a replacement for the soon-to-be-defunct Goo.gl shortener.
The exact question was:
Happy New Year and thanks to all the Semantic team for these HDHOs- looking forward to another great year.
As Google phases out the goo.gl shortener (closing March 30th), their replacement is Firebase Dynamic Links, which, in addition to a link destination, can also have a builtin title, description and image for social media. What are your thoughts on these – will you use these in place of goo.gl? Are there any SEO advantages from keywords in the title, description or image exif data? Thanks.
Adam: We are live! Welcome everybody the Hump Day Hangouts Episode 217, also known as the first Hump Day Hangouts of 2019. I gotta get used to saying that. I always screw it up for the first two or three weeks. Anyways, thanks for joining us. We got almost full crew here today, so I'm gonna go down the line here and say hello, do some quick introductions, and then we will get into it. Chris, you're first on my list today here. How are you doing?
Chris: Doing good. Woo-hoo to the New Year!
Adam: Are you back home or are you still up in the mountains, or where you at?
Chris: Back home at the moment. I gotta crank up and start the year productive like most people. How about you?
Adam: Yeah. I had these grand plans, you know. I took last week completely off, went almost off the grid, not completely but tried to stay away from the computer and all that jazz. Then, Sunday, I got sick. I had awesome week planned, all the stuff to do, I was gonna get right back into it, I was excited, and then it's just been like, motivation has been down here. So, it's turning into an inconvenient two-week vacation, so we'll see how it goes.
Anyways, Marco how about you? How are you doing?
Marco: I'm talking to a muted mic. What's up, man? Doing good. Starting off the new year really good, ton of projects. As you know, we got a whole bunch of awesome things coming to MGYB and coming to first and foremost our Mastermind members, and then it goes to everyone else, our followers and all other members then get access before it goes public. Membership has its privileges, as we always say.
Another thing that I'm really looking forward to is on the 14th. Guys, mark it on your calendar, Monday, January 14th, 3 p.m. Eastern, I'm doing an Entity webinar. There's a caveat: the only way that you can have access to that webinar is by donating to my charity. I'm calling it “The Endgame.” What this is all about, what other people just refuse to tell you because they want to give you information piecemeal and they want to lead you down the road but they don't want you to have all of the information. What I'm doing is, I'm giving everyone all of the information. I'm giving everybody the why these all take place. That's The Endgame. What we're after so that Google can give you all the love possible.
That's on, again, Monday, January 14th at 3:00 p.m. Eastern. It's The Endgame. The Entity Webinar. Donate. It's for a good cause.
Adam: Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. We'll have some more information about how you can do that shortly. Starting next week, we'll give out information to everybody so you can get on that. You definitely do not want to miss out on that.
Real quick, Bradley, how are you doing?
Bradley: I'm great, man. You said that you screw up for a couple weeks 2019.
Bradley: I always screw up when I'm writing a check. You know what I mean?
Bradley: That's where I always screw up and then I have to either scribble it out and initial it or void the check and write a new one. It always pisses me off. I'd do that for the first whole month really. But other than that, yeah, I'm really excited too. We're gonna hit 2019 running. We've got major big goals that were working on currently, GMB asset building and all that kind of stuff, and we're looking to really provide more and more Done-For-You services in MGYB. A lot of those are in development now, training virtual assistants in order to be able to fulfill those services for you, guys.
We just got a lot of stuff coming up. It's gonna be a really good year. As Marco said, the Mastermind members, we've kind of restructured that as well. We have clear direction this time. Finally, after all these years, I think we've got a really clear direction for new members, whether you're starting out or already got a business and you're just trying to scale it and grow it. It's just really a lot of good things that we are implementing this year. So, looking forward to it. This is the start of a big sprint for the next 12 months.
Adam: Definitely, We'll do our own break it down, do it 90 days, and then down to the week, and then day-by-day. Right? Good deal. I want to say thank you to everybody who took us up on some great offers over the holidays, whether it's MGYB sales and then those of you who decided to join the Mastermind, that's awesome. We're really glad to have you guys in there and getting through that. Really awesome that we had everyone do that. That's a great investment for 2019.
With that said, if you're new to Semantic Mastery and you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, I want to first say thanks for watching, whether you're watching us live or you're catching the replay, come check these out, whether you're in our Mastermind or you're not, you're in different groups or not, just come ask these questions, be part of the community, get your questions answered every week. You can always go to semanticmastery.com/hdquestions, like I said, if you're watching the replay, even though you post them on the page, you can come back and check out the replay, if you're traveling or whatever the deal is you can't watch us live.
If you're also wondering where to start with us, Battle Plan is the place to start. Just go to battleplan.semanticmastery.com. That'll fill you in on the rest of the details. It's repeatable processes to get you results. All right. That's the bottom line.
If you're already in digital marketing, you're in the local game, you want to really take things up, you want to be part of like-minded community, then the Mastermind is the place to be. You can find out more about that at mastermind.semanticmastery.com. Alrighty.
Let me check my notes here. I've got a little bit of a head cold that's messing with me and slowing me down here. I did wanna mention something coming up next week. For those of you who remember in … Bradley, was that October or November when the Side Hustle Toolbox came out, the Stack?
Adam: Yes. It was in the fall time frame.
Adam: Those guys have put together another one and they asked me to contribute, so I was happy to do that. Carey put together one info stack and it's more around productivity mindset, self-development kind of area, the idea of being start 2019 off to a good start. I've gotten a sneak peek at some of the stuff that's in there. It looks like some really good stuff. I'm happy with the one I made, the short course I put together for it, basically about freeing a lot of your time and how you can literally create about 115 hours out of 30 minutes over the next year. So, stuff like that.
If you're looking to really make some improvements, whether it's your business, your life, relationships, whatever it is in 2019, this is gonna be something cool that we're gonna share with everybody. Just like the last one, there's several thousands of dollars worth of products that they're putting together and then you get access to it all for just a ridiculously low price. I don't know exactly what that's gonna be it, but I believe the one we took part in was like 47 bucks.
Bradley: Yeah. It was there was over $4,000 worth of training, products and courses and stuff, and Side Hustle Toolbox is what it was called. I think with the coupon that they had during the launch week and all that, you get it for basically at 50 bucks, so it's ridiculous.
Adam: Yeah, just a big value bomb. We'll be sharing that information with everybody. It's something I talk about too, with all of these, it's like take the best, leave the rest. Any one of these things is worth $47. So, if you look through it and you think that one of them is worth it, grab it. Don't get lost in it. Pick the top ones, the ones you think are gonna help you go through it, put it to use. Don't worry about drowning in too much. Just grab it, pick the ones that are gonna work for you, put it to use it, and move forward.
Cool. All right, guys. Anything else?
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Bradley: There you go.
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By the way, in case you guys didn't know, you can go to our channel youtube.com/semanticmastery and then use the channel search feature and type in your question. A lot of times you'll find an answer because we previously answered it on Hump Day Hangouts. Since we put timestamps in the video descriptions of the Hump Day Hangouts and then we also chop up the individual Q&As, a lot of the times you'll just go to you find, the channel search function will lead you directly to an answer. In case you weren't aware of that, you may wanna check that out too.
All right. If that's cool, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and jump into questions. Is everyone good?
Adam: Let's do it.
Does The MYGB Service Able To Verify GMB Listings In Germany?
Marco: As far as I know we can verify just about anywhere in the world. The European Union is a little problematic. Your best bet is to write to [email protected] and they will give you the right answers.
What Is Your Recommended Off-Page Strategy For A Small Affiliate Site Dedicated To Reviewing One Product?
Well, I don't really do much affiliate stuff anymore and when I did, I mean, I … It's kind of hard, in my opinion. Again, I'm not gonna be the best one to give you advice on affiliate stuff because I just don't do much of it. But I can tell you affiliate site for just one product, I don't think is the best idea, Sam. Only because you gain more traction over time with a site that you're gonna continually post to and update.
Unless you're gonna be continually updating this one small affiliate site, as you mentioned, about one product, if you're gonna continue to add content to it, then it would make sense to have like a syndication network because you'd be constantly adding, publishing content, reviewing products, or whatever. That's why I said … Let me back up for a minute.
Typically, some of the best affiliates that I've met, like for example, Jeff Lenny, Jeff Lenny is a really good affiliate marketer, okay, I'm not sure if you're familiar with Jeff Lenny, but he's somebody that you could model. He's got basically an authority type review site that he's built for reviewing products and such. That's typically how I've seen most people get long-term traction with affiliate sites, especially if you're just reviewing products, is to create some sort of product review site that you're gonna continually update. That's gonna keep it fresh. That's gonna help you to develop authority over time.
The problem with a single product-type site is that it's hard to build authority with that and it's also hard to continue content marketing about that one particular product, so they don't ever really gain a lot of authority. Now, depending on how competitive it is, you may be able to just throw up a one page site or whatever and rank it and do very, very well, especially with launch-jacking because it's a new product. It typically means there's not a lot of competition because the product name is a new name, or there's not a lot of competition for it yet.
But that's why I'm saying, again when I was doing launch-jacking stuff, we were able to get some really good traction with just YouTube videos and Press Releases. Press Releases were one of the big parts of it. But we did a lot of YouTube spam and Press Releases and RYS Stacks. Yeah, drive stacks work great for launch-jacking because again they're new terms usually, new search queries that you can optimize for.
But again, like I said, long-term, if you want it to rank long-term, I would recommend that you go with a branded affiliate site, something you create a brand, it could even be Sam Bailey, you know what I mean? and then just review products consistently. That's how you wind up gaining traction over time.
Again, I'm not gonna be the best person to give you advice on affiliate stuff because I just don't do it. Marco, or anybody, you guys wanna comment on that at all?
Marco: I totally agree with you. Its brand plus keyword association when it comes to a launch-jacking right, and then he wants it long-term, well, it's gonna keep it long-term if Google gives it that association long-term, if it starts to associate the brand with whatever keyword it is that he's pursuing. In this case, it's whatever product or whatever small affiliate that he's trying to do, that's what he's going to have to do.
Now, yeah, of course, RYS is going to work, but you're going to have to keep adding power to that drive stack. You can't just do a simple drive stack and expect that, although it has happened, Virginia SEO.
Marco: You can't expect to stay at the top when you have all of these people trying to rank for that and doing things every day to try to take you on. It means that you have to continue adding information and images and video and whatever it takes to stay on top. So, yes, drive stacks, press releases, we've had great success, link building, everything in conjunction.
Bradley: Yeah. Also, one thing you might wanna consider, I had a lot of success with driving traffic, especially for launch-jack using Google Ads, formerly Adwords, because it's a new product. There's a ton of SEOs that … Again, when I did some launch-jacking training for, what we used to have was, we used to have something called the Master Class and I did several launch-jacking projects sites-, campaigns, excuse me, during that training.
We did really well each time we did launch jacking, but one of the things I started to do was set up you-, excuse me, well, YouTube Ads as well, but Google Ads from search and that tends to work really well too because, again I was trying to launch jack affiliate-, excuse me, internet marketing products. So, other training, internet marketing training products, or WordPress plugins, or whatever, just other IM-type products.
You'd end up competing with a bunch of other people trying to launch-jack too and it's a time-consuming process to set up launch-jacking. I even had developed some processes for some VAs and we were targeting various IM products when they would launch. We would publish a press release and all that kind of stuff and it would work fairly well.
But like I said, it was so much easier just to set up a good, what you call the bridge page, don't ever say that to Google Ads though, but it's really a bridge page where you basically set up a landing page that you could do a review of whatever product it is you're trying to promote. Make sure it's a well-done landing page though, that is content-rich, in other words, it could have a video but also have good text on it to where it's not a blatant just affiliate-type page if you're adding value.
Google Ads, they'll suspend an ad if they think that it's a low-quality page or a thin content page that is only used to promote an affiliate link. But I've had many landing pages that were, again they're bridge pages, don't ever say that to Google, but they're bridge pages where all I was doing was promoting an affiliate offer, but I fleshed it out well. Because of that, it would stick and Google Ads would accept it and then I could drive traffic using Google Ads for really inexpensive because it's a new product name, it's a new keyword so there's not a lot of people competing.
Again, for launch-jacking, you'll get a ton of SEO, a lot of IMer's that will try to launch-jack doing various spam and SEO stuff. But very few target using Google Ads, at least in my experience a couple years ago. It's been a couple years since I've done any of this. I found it to be a lot easier and more efficient to skip all the SEO stuff and just set up Google Ads for launch-jacking.
That tended to work really, really well because it I could cut, what used to take me if I was going to develop out the launch-jacking campaign and do all the work myself, which I used to do, it would take me sometimes two days to really develop all the stuff out. I'm talking about the video spam, ordering press releases, setting up a WordPress site, or at least a page or a landing page or whatever. All that kind of stuff was a real pain in the ass to set up.
Then once I trained Vas, even then it was still a lot of work, even if I had a VA that would set up an entire campaign, a launch-jack campaign in a day, I'd still be paying that VA for a day's worth of work. Whereas I could just go into AdWords, or Google Ads now, I could go into Google Ads and set up a campaign in a matter of 20 minutes after I built the landing page and then the traffic could start within hours. Once the ad gets approved, traffic can then start immediately. Then it was just like, as soon as the launch was over or the shopping cart closed or whatever, then I could just turn the ad off and I'm done. You know what I mean? I made my money and I'm good to go.
So, that I found to be more efficient, Sam. What I'm saying is you could do a combination of both. If you're trying to have something that's gonna rank long-term, then I would recommend, like what Marco said, that you're gonna have to have something that you're gonna update with content regularly. That's why I recommend having a syndication network if you're gonna do like a review site where you're gonna review more than one product. But you can jump-start your traffic with Google Ads, at least initially, and get placed right at the top of the page. You might wanna check into that as well. Okay.
Something else I like about that, Sam. Remember, if you're driving people to a landing page, whether you do it with SEO or Google Ads, always try to build a list too. Instead of just point people from that page direct to the affiliate offer, try to put them through an opt-in gateway somehow so that you can build a list, because you got to think about it.
Also, make sure you're using remarketing, Sam. Even if you decide not to do Google Ads for this affiliate campaign, I would still make sure that you have Google Tag Manager added to your landing page or your site, depending on how you're gonna build it out and make sure that you create a remarketing list because, depending on, if it's an offer that's gonna be an evergreen product or whatever that's available for purchase beyond just the launch window, then you can build a remarketing list even if somebody doesn't opt-in.
If you put an opt-in on the bridge page to try to collect email addresses that you can market to them via email at a later date, that's great, you should still try to do that. But even if you don't get somebody to opt-in, if they land on your page, now you've cookie them and they're on a remarketing list, so you can still market to them. If you know what particular product or service it is that … They landed on that page, there's an interest in that product or service, then you could potentially even serve ads to them via remarketing for other similar type products.
My point is, you absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you should try to collect emails via opt-in if possible. But at the very least, if you're driving traffic, you should be building a remarketing list because that way you can continue to market to that visitor that would have otherwise been a lost visitor if they didn't purchase or opt-in. Does that make sense?
Anyways, definitely, that's a good idea. I'm using remarketing for everything, guys. I love it. It's great. I mean, even for local stuff that I'm doing, remarketing is so powerful, guys, and it's so inexpensive compared to cold PPC.
What Are Your Thoughts On Using Firebase Dynamic Links As Replacement To Soon-To-Be Defunct Goo.gl Shortener?
Marco looked into that several months ago or a year ago now when they first announced that Google URL shortener was going to be shutting down eventually. One of the problems with the Firebase links is they are all 302s. Is that correct, Marco?
Marco: Not necessarily.
Bradley: Okay. Can you expand on that a bit?
Marco: Yeah. You can make them 301.
Bradley: Oh, you can?
Marco: You can.
Bradley: Okay. You're short answers today, aren't you?
Marco: Yeah. Go read all of the shit that I read through to find that. I'm not giving it away.
Bradley: Okay. Well, there you go, Steve. I tried. Yeah, okay. It was my understanding because I remember Marco talking about this. I was unaware that you could make them 301. I'm not sure how you do it, Steve. I have not researched this at all because, as far as I was aware, they were 302 links and I said, “Well, that kills that.” But, yeah, just go do some more research, I suppose. I tried to give you a better answer, Steve. I'm sorry I couldn't.
Marco: Just to add a little bit to that, we're going to have our own shortener in MGYB. It should be ready by Friday. If not, sometime next week. Then, we'll do tests and make it public before Google phases out their shortener and then we'll just power up our own. That's what you should do. I mean, we're not going through Firebase, but Firebase allows you to do that, to set up your own link shortener.
Bradley: There you go. There's some benefits to doing that too because you can power up your domain that way too.
Should You Use One Schema Markup For All Pages Of A Multi-Location Business Or Should Use Specific Schema For Each City Page?
Most multi-location businesses are going to have a root domain, right, guys? They're either gonna have location pages for each individual location, which are inner pages of the root domain, or maybe perhaps subdomains with a WordPress installer, an HTML page for each location on subdomains, it's usually gonna be one or the other.
With the organizational/corporation markup, you can put that in the site header, if you're using JSON-LD markup, you can put it in the site header and that can be across, like a global site header. In other words, it goes across all pages, which in organization markup you're talking about the corporation itself, the entity, the main corporate entity, then you can list the individual locations.
But on the individual location pages, whether they're inner pages or on subdomains, however you have that worked out, those should only have local business markup for that particular location. Organization markup can go either globally across the site in the header, except for on individual location pages, or you can just put organization markup on a locations page which lists all of the locations, but then there would be a link that clicks through to the individual location landing page. Or you could have it on a Contact page or an About Us page. That's per Google's recommendations, by the way, guys. So, I would definitely look into that.
Also, there was something else, let me pull this up. I just had this up earlier today. Organization schema, Google, there we go. There's an SEMrush article right here. This is a really good one. This is where I learned, this is actually where I stumbled across the @id page stuff that I basically developed from this article. Way back in February of last year is when I had talked about the local iFrame loop in Syndication Academy. I got that idea, that idea was sparked from this article right here on SEMrush. Okay.
Essentially, if you scroll down here, you'll see there's organization. This is corporation markup here. But then there's the organization markup, which you can select which type, okay, that's how you get a bit more specific. And local business schema, okay, that's where you would go all the way down to the individual location. If you scroll down here, it talks about @id page and all that kind of stuff. This is a really good article. I'm gonna drop this on the page. I would recommend that you spend some time kind of going through here and reading this. Okay.
By the way, Scott, if you're in the Mastermind, which I think you are, Muhammad actually just had posted a very similar question in the Facebook group. I answered it and I gave some live examples there of how I have it on some of my sites. Go check that Facebook group for the Mastermind and you should find that thread and read through it. You'll see some examples of some of my own properties where I have organization markup with individual locations and all that kind of stuff. All right. Keep moving.
Is It Best To Use City+Brand Name When Building Multiple GMB Sites In The Same Geographical Area?
Okay. I'm not sure why that advice was given to you because, if I've got several assets that are in the same city, with the same city name but they may be different zip codes, I'd still use the same name for all locations because the other data points within the NAP are gonna be unique. If you're trying to build a brand, a pseudo brand anyways, then I recommend you keep all the name the same. It makes it easier.
The problem with creating, trying to create a different brand for each location is that it sucks. It's a lot of additional work, right? One of the things I've done, as you probably know, Michael, or anybody that's been through Local Lease Pro or in the Mastermind, they know I'll use a pseudo brand, like Local Tree Pros, for example, or something like that, and then I'll just name it City Tree Pros as the actual location name.
But if I've got, let's say, three assets in the same city but they're in different zip codes, then I would name it that, let's just say, Cal Pepper Tree Pros, let's use that as an example. There's only one zip code in Cal Pepper, but let's just say that I had three different locations for Cal Pepper Tree Pros. Then what I would do is I would have all three of them named Cal Pepper Tree Pros, but the physical address when the verification occurred to get the GMB verified, the physical address would be unique, the phone numbers are all gonna be unique, the web addresses are all gonna be unique. Even if the name is the same, that's perfectly okay because the other data points are unique.
I'm not sure why MGYB customer support would have said not to do that. That's something, Marco, maybe you and I should chat about with whoever gave that advice because I want to make sure that we are giving a code the standard answer to everybody. Michael, in my opinion, I would still go with the city name-, or excuse me, with just the brand name, or if you're doing city plus brand name, if that's how you're naming your GMB assets, then if you have multiple locations within the same city name, do like I mentioned, you're gonna have unique data points for the NAP other than the name, so it should be okay.
I've never had any issues with that, guys. I've got many, many, many clients as well as lead gen assets out there guys that are multi-location. They share the same name and I've never had any issues with them. The only time that there's issues if you share the same phone number or if you share the same web address. Which, again, I've seen problems where people have multiple locations and they share the home page URL of their website as the landing page URL for their GMB assets. That's wrong. That creates NAP inconsistencies. That ambiguates data and that causes problems.
If you're going to have the same name and you're going to use inner pages, or for example, again, if it was one company and they have just one domain they don't have separate domains for each location, then you should use the location page, which is a separate landing page on the domain for each location, as the website URL in the GMB listing because that makes it a unique URL per listing. Does that make sense?
That's my advice to you, Michael. Marco, do you have any suggestions on that or anything different to say?
Marco: No. It's just the way that Rob recommends it. It's something that we found that works really, really well at just getting tons of calls.
Bradley: What's that, putting the city name?
Marco: No. By putting different names within the geolocation, within the geographical area.
Bradley: Okay. Yeah. I haven't tested because I … Again, the reason why I haven't tested that is because I don't want to have to create new brands. You know what I'm saying? I wanna go with one type of pseudo brand that I can scale and that way I don't have to come up with a different brand name each time. If I've got three assets in one city, I don't wanna have three brands. Does that make sense, guys? That's why I do it that way. It's more of an efficiency thing for me because we're scaling so much. It would be very difficult to continually come up with new brand names and new logos and all that shit. It would be an enormous amount of work.
Andreas says, “How will we be invited to your webinar on the 14th?” If you donate, you'll get an email with the notification.
Marco: No. If he's on our list, he'll be notified what it is that he needs to do. If he isn't, then how you do it is you donate, then you contact [email protected] and get all the information that you need.
When Is The Release Date Of The New Version Of Jeffrey Smith's Ultimate SEO Plugin?
Bradley: Okay, there you go. Jordan's up. What's up, Jordan? He says, “Any insider news, I know you all are tight, from Jeffrey Smith on when the new version of Ultimate SEO is coming out? No. I can follow up with them now, Jordan, and find out. Let me make a note of that. Because I actually asked him about it just last month, or in December, so just last month, I asked him specifically about it because we were talking about it in a webinar somewhere and I wanted to promote it. I was asking if he had the new one out yet and he didn't, he said he was working on it though. I think it's gonna be out this month at some point, but it might be February. I'll just make a note of it. All right. I'll find out.
Greg Drebert, if you're on then you know because you're real tight with Jeffery. You can always post and let us know if when the launch date is. You look like you are live, Greg. If you can shed an insight, that would be great. If not, I'll reach out to Jeffery and find out, Jordan, and I'll ping you back either in the Syndication Academy Facebook group or next week on Hump Day Hangouts. Okay.
Jim says, “Ass.” Okay. That's quite a way to start a question. “I was in the process of typing out a bit of a long specific question and the browser refreshed or losing it all let's try again but shorter.” Yeah. By the way, if you're at the 59 mark on the clock right before the webinar starts, when it turns to the zero, the top of the hour, yeah, the page refreshes automatically for Google Event pages. So, yeah, next time type your question out in a text file or notepad file first, that way if that happens you don't lose it. Don't you hate that? Okay.
Would SM Techniques Work On Brand-Based Adult Websites?
I've never done anything in the adult industry. I know Chris has. Chris, if you're still on, do you have any insight? Is Chris still on?
Marco: No. I don't I think he and Adam dropped.
Bradley: Okay. All right. Well, Marco, can you … I've never done anything in the adult industry at all.
Marco: No. I mean, I haven't. I did but that was just way back in the day I had a client. Dude, I don't see why it wouldn't work. I mean, seriously, how we developed RYS Academy and RYS Academy Reloaded is that we found the document ranking in Google and it was full of just porn links and just porn stuff and it was ranking like crazy, the G doc. It's one of the things that sent Dr. Garry down the rabbit hole and sent me into thinking how to put it all together into one cohesive unit to push all of that power over to whatever it was that we were trying to rank.
So, if a G doc ranks for porn, there's no reason why anything else shouldn't. I'm just reasoning it out. It's not something that I'm going to try because I don't have a client to do it with. But, Jim, I mean, this is a test in the making. As far as GMB, why wouldn't you try to …? This is what my webinar is gonna be all about on Monday the 14th, why wouldn't you want or try to create the Entity for this so that it's just clear with Google what it is, what all the assets are, where they are, and they all belong to one brand and you try to that the brand plus key word association? I don't see why it would be any different. Of course, it would be filtered for adults, but I mean, that's your market anyway.
Bradley: Yeah. But actually, because I was just thinking business category for the GMB. Guys, they do have media company as a business category, so you could set up a GMB listing for that brand and label it for the GMB business category as a media company. I don't know that that would be filtered out unless it had something offensive in the title of the business name, the GMB profile name, if that makes sense.
Yeah. Sorry I can't shed more light on that. Jim, if that's a question that you would like answered more, I can always post, or with a better answer I could always ask Chris P to shed some insight, because I know he did a lot of work in the adult industry for a while. I don't know if he still does or not, but he did for quite some time, so he might be able to give you some pointers too.
Jim, you might even want to post this question in whatever group you're a member of Facebook group for Semantic Mastery. That way we could get some comments going on over there. I'm sure there's probably some others that have done adult content stuff that could probably help out too. I'm sorry I can't give you, I've got zero experience doing any marketing for adult content sites, guys.
Marco: Yeah. Too bad Jason Quinlan has gone underground or he'd be perfect to answer this. But I'm looking at the categories right now in Google and they have one for adult DVD store, adult entertainment club, adult entertainment store. So if they allow you to verify that, I mean, just looks for the category, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to verify something along those lines and then build your entity that way, see which one fits. If none of them fits, go general.
Bradley: Yeah, media company. I was just thinking, Jim, if you were dealing with online website stuff, a media company might be a good category too. Anyways check it out, post to one of the other groups, one of the groups that you're a member of and see if you can get some other people that may have that some experience, Jim, to comment.
Does Any Of The Semantic Mastery Team Member Buy The Annual OMG Machines Package?
I do not. I was a member of OMG, that's how I got introduced to Network Empire, it was back in 2012, 2013. For one year, I was in OMG. Then, I got introduced to Network Empire at the OMG live event. I think it was their first one. It might have been their second one. But Network Empire was there and that was where I kind of took the Syndication Academy, at that time we call them IFTTT SEO Academy, and then kind of learned how to really power that up.
Part of the reason I got away from OMG stuff, and I'm not talking about anybody else out there, guys, that's not what this is about, but I got away from the OMG stuff because it was mostly, at least back then, I haven't been a member for several years, but it was mostly about PBN stuff. Like how to go out and buy really powerful domains and build PBNs and not create footprints and all that kind of stuff.
That works. That did work a lot better. But we found methods that … I didn't like the whole PBN thing. I got tired of building private blog networks or building sites and trying to hide footprints. It became more and more difficult and less and less effective without going through all of the … In other words, unless you went through all of the trouble on how to find really powerful domains that were relevant and then how to set them up properly without footprints and all that kind of stuff, then they weren't as effective. If you did all those things right, then they could be really effective.
But I found become increasingly difficult. I stopped doing PBN stuff and worked more on content syndication and the kind of stuff that we that I felt like was more long-term and more sustainable, which is why I went with going more than Network Empire out. Then, we developed out our own products and our own stuff. RYS Academy being one of them and Local PR Pro and Local GMB Pro and all of these own methods that we've developed on our own that have absolutely nothing to do with PBNs. Nothing.
Guys, we rarely even talk about external link building because we don't need to do it very often. When I do now, I primarily just use Press Releases as my external link building method. My point is, personally, Jim, I wouldn't spend 5k on it. But that's just because we use our own methods, our own proprietary methods that tend to get us results without needing PBNs. Again, I don't know that that's what they're about anymore guys. I'm just telling you that that's why I got away from it.
If anybody else wants to comment on that on the page, I'm certainly open to having people comment on what their thoughts are on there, guys, but please keep it civil. We're not here to pick fights with anybody. Don't start none, won't be none. You know what I mean?
Marco: Yeah. I don't have enough information to tell them one way or the other, and I wouldn't anyway. I wouldn't say, “Yeah. Go spend 5k,” or “No, don't spend 5k.” What I will tell you is, as Bradley said, back in the day that's what was done, that's what worked, and you did it and you moved on to the next and the next. Then came Network Empire, of course, Becker we met inside one of his Masterminds.
There's a bunch of information out there. What I can tell you is that we did our own flavor. We did our own thing. If I need a PBN, I build the G site and a drive stack.
Bradley: That's it.
Marco: And I add power to the G site and the drive stack. I push all of that power the way that we teach it, Local PR Pro, Local GMB Pro, Local Lease Pro, RYS Academy Reloaded. I mean, if you're not in RYS Academy Reloaded, I don't know why you're not in there.
Bradley: Yeah. Yep, there you go. All right. Ken, yeah, there you go. He got the donation link. Greg says to Jordan, “I just talked to Jeff.” See, Greg, you're the man. Thanks, man. I knew you'd come through. You always do, Greg. Thank you. “I just talked to Jeffrey. He'll throw in five extra licenses to the 89 five-pack for Mastermind members only. That's 10 total. Okay. So, you get 10 licenses for $89 for the Ultimate SEO Plus Plugin. That's the Buy link. Then, send him an email with the special I mentioned they get the extra five licenses. We'll be testing the new beta plugin this month.”
I thought that's what Jeffrey said. I remember, like I said, just last month when I was chatting with him in Skype, he said something about January. I didn't know if that was the launch or just the beta testing, Greg. But I appreciate you chiming in, Greg, as always. Thank you. So, it's coming out soon, guys. If he's starting beta testing this month, it's coming out soon.
Entertainment Agency, there you go, there's another one. That must be another business category. “Clients are clients and money is money. It's all the same work.” Yeah, I agree, Jim. I mean, I don't know. I've never been approached to do adult stuff. I'm not sure whether I would do it or not, to be honest with you. You're right, money's money. I don't look down on it or anything like that. So, you're right, it's all the same kind of work.
Marco: Yeah. That's just another niche. You go into whatever it is. You're going to get paid, that's how I see it.
Bradley: Oh, we're almost … Look at this, guys. Post some more questions because we got 15 minutes left and we're almost out of questions. That's rare. It's okay, it's only January 2.
Jordan says, “Also, if someone is a Schema wizard and wants to make a little cash, hit me up. I have a large international travel site migrating to epicenter CMS and the dev team is installing Schema but not using JSON-LD. I need a set of eyes that gets the non JSON-LD type of schema to make recommendations.”
Yeah. Jordan, I would reach out Ryan Rodden Skeema Pro, I think skeema.pro. I think this is it. Right here. Reach out. I'm gonna post this link on event page here, Jordan. Ryan Rodden, he was a Mastermind member for quite some time. I don't know if he's still in the Mastermind or not, but he's a Schema pro. The site he set up specifically because he got tired of people asking him all the time questions of like, “Hey, would you look at my structured data?” so he set this up and just like he said, “Yeah, I'll take a look at it. Go buy it here.” He'll either generate the code for you, or he'll do a structured data overhaul, or he'll review existing structured data, and all that kind of stuff, you just have to purchase it.
But anyways, Jordan, if you've got a big site or whatever, just reach out to him, see what he can do for you. Ryan Rodden for schema work. Or I refer you, by the way, or the Semantic Mastery referred you.
Hey, where's my comment? There it is. All right.
Scott Walker, “I belong to OMG. Very nice people. But I agree with Bradley, Semantic Mastery is far, far ahead on Local GMB, Google Maps techniques.” Well, thank you, Scott. Appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, like I said, guys, I don't know whether they do much with local stuff or not, I know at least back in many years ago now, I mean, you got to think that was 2012 to '13, I think, when I was a member with them. That was shit that long damn time ago. I don't know what they're doing now, to be honest with you. So, you'd have to, Jim, decide on your own really. It's not really much I can help you with on that.
Marco: I have a question for Jordan. All right. There's three types of Schema-, or excuse me, structured data that you can go with: RDFa, micro data, or JSON-LD. Google recommends JSON-LD. Why wouldn't you go with what Google recommends? So now it's me asking a question during Hump Day.
Bradley: Wow! Now I gotta wait for the answer because there's latency, some delay.
Marco: I'd like to know why. Is it the CMS that doesn't allow for a certain type of structured data? Or is it the client? Is it you? If it's you, why? I mean, this raises a lot of questions, right? Since Google says, “We recommend JSON-LD. This is the way you should do it. This is the way you should go. This is what the bot wants. This is what the bot is coded for.” It'll understand all the other, but you I'm just wondering.
Bradley: Yeah. Well, while we're waiting to see if Jordan replies here, he goes. “That's what I want to argue. Use the freaking JSON.” I agree, Jordan.
Marco: I can give him a page where Google recommends it.
Bradley: Yeah. Do that because then you could go show the web developers and the owners of the company, say, “Here, this is Google saying that you should use JSON-LD. So, why are we doing it the other way?”
Marco: We have Quentin just dropped something in there from South Carolina.
Any Suggestions On How To Use SEO And Google Ads To Rank As One Of The First Musicians In Charleston, South Carolina?
But to use SEO and Google Ads? Well, it depends. I mean, again, that one I'd have to think through quite a bit, Quentin, because it's not something that I've done in the past. But I would probably think that you would want to just optimize for your name or your band's name, either your name or your band's name, or both, or band or group or whatever. You see, you play drums, so I'm assuming you're in a band.
My point is, I would probably optimize for that because as people get to know who you are, they'll start searching for you or your band's name. So, I would optimize for that. I mean, you could go generally to start getting some exposure. For example, I don't really do searches for music in my town so I don't really know what type of search queries people would look for, but you could start, for example, let's just walk through this. We got a couple minutes.
Go to Google Trends. That's where I would start because that's where I always start. For any type of new industry, guys, whenever I'm trying to figure out the best way to start marketing via SEO or even Google Ads at that point, I always start with Google Trends. Always, okay? Come to Google Trends. I don't know what kind of music you play because you didn't specify, but I don't know, let's just see what live music brings up.
I just put live music in. By default, it's gonna be set for United States and it's gonna show data for the past 12 months. But what I would do is I would narrow this down from maybe down to a city level. So you said Charleston, I'd start at a city level, but you might have to broaden it out a little bit. Charleston, South Carolina, right? That is what he said, right? Yeah, South, Carolina. Okay.
Then, this isn't only for the past 12 months, sometimes that won't be enough data, especially on just a city level. You might wanna pull it back to either the regional level or even to a state level, which I'll demonstrate that here in just a second. Right there. We've been talking about this for months now, guys. Ever since July 2018, the near me keywords are by far the most rapidly growing keyword type of query, a near me query.
That's where I'm starting for all my GMB assets now is I'm starting looking to do location research with near me keywords. That's where I start with my research. This just goes to show you, live music near me in just the past 12 months has had 120% increase in search interest in Charleston South Carolina. So, specifically in that city.
My point is, you could literally start optimizing for live music near me. That's a search query that could be optimized for. How do you do that? Because people ask me that, “Well, how do you optimize for near me keywords? It doesn't read naturally.” Well, for example, with GMB posts, Google My Business post, we do a lot of, and again, I just mentioned that's where I start now is always targeting near me keywords because they're driving a ton of traffic right now.
Well, put in like the first line of the GMB post was did you just search, and then we put in quotes, live music near me, question mark. Well, look no further, you just found it. Then, you can spit out some details about the venue and your business-, or, excuse me, the band. Obviously you'd want to associate live music near me with your band name. You'd wanna make sure that your band name was present and that post, as well as maybe the venue that you're performing at, that kind of stuff.
That way you're working that keyword directly into within a non spammy way. Did you just search live music near me or just search live music near me or there's multiple ways you could reword that to where it still reads? Okay. That's one way you can do. Live music Charleston, obviously, that's with the local modifier. These are just rising terms. If you take a look at the top terms, apparently, that's it.
But my point is, you can start targeting with those as more of them as a general way to get people to introduce to who you and your band are. But then what I was saying was, as your notoriety begins to increase, as you become more known in your local area and beyond, then probably I would recommend optimizing for your band's name, or your name if you're the lead or whatever. That's because people will begin to search for your name through brand and that's so you optimize for your brand name and that way you come up and you can control really the conversation via Google about your brand, if that makes sense. That's reputation marketing 101, right?
I don't know, I would start there something else. You could do like I said is back out a little bit. If you take a look at like South Carolina or 12 months we could actually bring it back, let's say, five years and that's kind of should bring you some more live music Charleston, South Carolina tonight. These are just rising terms. You look for top terms. Again, same thing, it didn't really add much. Something else you could do is, let's bring it back to 12 months, but back it out from Charleston to the whole state level. Okay.
This should bring back some different data. It looks like it didn't really. There we go. If we look at top Charleston live music, live near me live music Myrtle Beach, Greenville, South Carolina. There's just a handful of them there. Again, guys, that was just one keyword live music. I would try to figure out like, if you're in a rock band, rock music maybe, whatever type it is you could start just use Google to start trying to identify the types of queries that people might be searching for and indigent or drill into those keywords more, those search queries more.
For example, let's do this, I mean, I know it's about time, but you could go to Google and search for, like if I said, live music actually, shoot, live music and it might not, yeah, it will. If I did live music near me, something else searches related to live music near me. So you could find other types of related search queries that people in Charleston, South Carolina search for that could give you additional ideas for stuff to optimize for.
That's what I'm saying you can use trends and Google search to find all these types of related search queries and things that you can start to use in your content marketing to start getting exposure for those, for your band. Does that make sense? So, that's what I would do hopefully. Hopefully, that helped you out a little bit. Okay.
Is There Any iFrame Stacking That Can Be Done In A GMB Via The Local Lease Pro?
Go take a look at that. That's in the updates module of Local Lease Pro training. Okay. Everything you need is right there for you, Vince. Scott says, “Marco, I just donated. Great of you to do this for school kids.” Yes, it is. Thanks, Scott.
Jordan says, “Idea for band. If you have a fanbase that likes a similar band, example, Radiohead worked that angle as well. Yeah, that's true. It's true.
Jim Wells. “Marco, will I still be on the list from donating before I wasn't sure if that carried over?” It does, doesn't it, Marco?
Marco: No, it doesn't. This is a brand new webinar, brand new information, brand new donation.
Bradley: Okay. There you go, Jim.
Marco: Come on, guys, it's for a good cause. I'm not asking you to donate a million dollars five, 10 bucks, 25 bucks, whatever your heart tells you to donate. Then, yeah, listen to the information and let me know if it was worth it.
Bradley: There you go.
Marco: As for Jordan, he says that it's a huge international travel site and that it's the devs doing it. You shouldn't let the devs do the SEO Jordan, ever. They think they know until you show them, no shit, stick to coding and let me do my job, make it easier for me, and then just show that. Google recommends JSON-LD and see where you can go. I know that you're gonna get a lot of push back because that's the way they want to do it. But it's not what you want to do, what you should do according to what Google is recommending.
Bradley: There you go. Looks like we finished up right on time today, guys. Wow. That's a great way to start the year. That's rare. We appreciate everybody being here. No Mastermind webinar this week, but we will see you all next week for Hump Day Hangouts. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Marco, for hanging out.
Marco: All right, man. Bye, everyone.
Bradley: See you, guys.
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