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Bradley: So that means we're live now actually. We're going live here. Okay, so Hey guys, this is Bradley Benner with Semantic Mastery. So let's see what we're trying to get a live Hump Day hangouts going here.
Hernan: So get your camera.
Bradley: Activate the camera. Yeah. Sweet. And then looking at you. So bear with us. We're trying to see the pin, I think.
Adam: Okay, yeah. So we're going to try this, everybody. Welcome to the episode at 258 Semantic Mastery is in Denver. Hey, I just wanted to say hello. Now that we've actually got this up and going and we're going to do our usual thing real quick. If you're joining us for the first time, I might be a little confused because clearly we are we're still trying to figure out how to work computers. We didn't get Marco and you can join on hard work on the technical side, back in. But while he's doing that, I'm gonna go down and say hello to everybody real quick starting on my right here with Chris. How are you doing?
Chris: I'm doing good.
Adam: And normally I would ask you what the weather's like. Stupid so it nice. Yeah, it's about 70-75 pretty nice. I'm Adam. And next to me, of course, is Bradley Benner.
Bradley: Hi. And last but not least went on over there who's being goofy
Hernan: Hey everybody
Adam: Oh, man looks like Marco is coming on so as soon as he unmutes himself Marco if you want to say hi and you're in here say hello to everybody
Marco: I don't want to say hello in any thinking body man. I'm just playing What's up everybody? Good to be here. It's good to be here. Hump Day Hangout. I'm going to join you guys. Oh, yeah. My ready.
Bradley: Alright, cool. So do we have any announcements or like are we going to do normal announcements are we gonna go through it?
Adam: You know, we just for those of you who know or don't know, obviously we just got done with POFU Live event here in Denver. Get to meet up with returning people as well as some new people which is amazing. Sharing stuff in small groups there's a lot of fun just had a blast and then of course carrying that on meeting up outside whether it's for lunch whether we did some evening events that were a lot of fun and you know we wanted to give people cuz we were hearing from people you know I missed it this year, you know, I couldn't make it things got mixed up, that's fine. But we want to give you a special offer to get in now and I'll put that on the page. If you want to grab a VIP ticket, you can grab that now it's going to be up for a limited period of time and you can save a bundle on that and come join us next year so if you you know you're one of those people are saying hey, I will be there next year I want to be then this is the time to do that.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]Nice you guys got the figured out over here. Yeah, I don't think so. So no worries and other than that, I want to say for the people watching today maybe for the first time you are in the right place for watching us you can check out the replays of course on YouTube on Semantic Mastery channel just hit subscribe stay up to date with those. If you ever have any digital marketing questions just come semanticmastery.com/hdquestions, ask us. Of course if you're live you can get a little bit more out of it by clarifying or giving us some feedback. But you know, we understand you can always make it live so you can just ask your questions, check out the replay. And then the next step for you would be the Battle Plan if you want repeatable processes for your SEO and digital marketing, and check it out at battleplan.semanticmastery.com and for everyone else, who wants to take things up a few notches, you know, you want to be around the people who are doing what you're doing, which is trying to either grow your agency grow your business, then you need to be in the mastermind. And you can find out more about that at mastermind.semanticmastery.com. Right on cool. And last but not least, because we got several questions about it this week, but if you need done for you services, which should be everyone whether you're doing it for yourself, or you're doing it for client projects, go to MGYB.co. All right stuff syndication networks are West drive, stacks, press releases, links, embeds, and a lot more coming. So head over there and get that stuff done. And as far as announcements on my end, that's about it. Marco Are you guys we got anything else we need to touch base on
Good no good. Yeah, we got a lot of questions so let's go into that standby cuz I gotta try to find it.
Okay, so it looks like the first one is from Mike he says thanks for the great information I want to try to get back to you by mentioned that you have a good intro video but it has very high volume compared the video volume level hope it's okay to say it. Thanks. That's a good thing. Can you make a note of that too? Yeah, view that is you're gonna try to edit our processes if that's the case. So thank you for that, Mike. We do appreciate that.
URL Structure For Siloed Website
Next is a question. He says. What about strip the category base from category slug so it looks like a page site.com. Katie's asking obviously about the URL structure for a siloed website. Because I'm Yeah, yes, he's asking if he can use the restricted category slash post name out of the permalink structure for silo and absolutely you can just using post name premier link structure, it's fine. It's called a virtual silo works just as well as a regular siloed would Sorry, just bug does it in the face.
What Are Your Thoughts On Having A Syndicated Branded Network Using High Quality Spun Articles?
The next is vitality says hello Hope everyone is doing great. What are your thoughts on syndication network versus syndication network on the branding network using high quality spun articles readable that can this bring more SEO benefit? I mean, I know you don't need to I would on your primary tier one branded network, you're just going to be republishing content from your blog anyways, if that's what you mean publishing spun articles to your blog, I would recommend now and recommend that instead, you would use curated content, it's better content and creates co citation. And you don't have to be a subject matter expert. You can just find other good content out there that you can grab snippets from and share we've got a product called content kingpin, which shows you exactly how to do that. That's what I recommend is just going to read better it's going to be more valuable. Produce more benefit than spun crappy articles would be if yes, what you mean. Marco, do you want to comment on that?
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]Marco: That's exactly what I told him in the Facebook group, I just wanted him to come here. So that we could get go a little bit more in depth. And just to make sure that we hammered that home right that you're doing, you're way better off with curated content, citing sources and all of that versus just a crappy spun article that nobody knows what the hell is saying. One of the things that's important here is that as your tier one brand, and you want it to look good, and if someone happens to come along to your tier one brand and you want that person possibly converting or getting into your funnel so that they end up on the website, and they end up in your sales funnel. And so what do you want that person to see in your tier one branded? Which is your brand amplified? Do you want them to see a crappy spun article that makes absolutely no sense or do you want to curate something that convert that person into a website visitor and perhaps a client or a customer. That's the question that you need to ask.
What Are The Best Techniques To Let Google Recognize Entities?
Right on. So the next one is from Steve. He says, Hey SM team, what are the best techniques for getting Google to recognize entities? For those doing GMB or Google My Business? Google readily creates knowledge panels or me, or excuse me, MREIDs. But what about those working with the web properties? People products, etc? What can we do beyond schema and Id pages and the G stack? Getting a Wikipedia entry clearly works, but it's very difficult for most gyms, taxis probably wouldn't married a Wikipedia page, but it does, but gets in MREID through GMB. So, how do we level up the field for non GMB entities? Well, that sounds like a perfect question for Marco, I quickly would say that, you know, creating all of the syndication network and drive stack and all of that SEO shield including the ID page, all of it together is going to help having the structured data using sameas attributes is going to help. But there are other things that you can do, for example, have a paid account of some sort that helps to validate the entity as well. Meaning like pay Google for something AdWords campaigns, or, you know, Google Ads campaigns or for extra drive storage, all of the above, a G Suite account, something like that. But Marco, what else can you add to that?
Marco: Now, you just went over exactly what he supposed to do. If you can't go in and get a verified GMB, which has a completed was not the complete entity in Google, because you can add social media and all these other things. Then what you need to do is you go in and you verify it another way and the best way that I know is getting that credit card on file, whether it's a company credit card, a personal credit card, where you're directly related to the company. What that's going to do is it turns you into into Google's customer, right other than a mage, and elite, and someone who is just abusing services, rather than payment, it gets that credit card on file. And what happens is, you know, yeah, you can have fake credit cards or whatever. But but that belongs to someone, it's a thing. Then, on the web, it's it's in their database. It belongs to a person, but it belongs to a company. So you just went a long way towards validating the fact that you're real. You're not just another mooch, another leech, then you do everything else that we recommend. Absolutely. The schema, the @ID amplify it through the drive stack plus Gsite, press releases, I mean, companies do that on a regular basis, they announced their news, and then link building to all of those to just help to solidify everything. That's what's going to get you when you can't get a GMB and Google understands that then there's other way, getting into all of the different data aggregates.
Bradley: crunchbase would also be a good one.
Marco: crunchbase is perfect, but I was going to also say wiki data because Google is drawing directly from wiki data, you say that Wikipedia isn't feasible, or sometimes it would merit. But your company wouldn't merit a Wikipedia entry, a Wikipedia page, about the company and about everything that it does. So you pay someone to get you on Wikipedia, you pay someone to get your Wiki data. I just as interesting as I just posted to my partners this morning, about getting into Wikipedia, wiki data, for Semantic Mastery, because I know a guy that does it and his prices are really, really good. So that's absolutely you get everywhere. That RankBrain goes to aggregate data about your entity about your thing, and make sure that it's consistent throughout citations. I can't remember if you mentioned citations, but that's a perfect way. citations are a really good way. It doesn't have to be just for local. It can just be your company. Right?
Can You Share Some Basic Guidelines For Link Building?
Right on next one is Mike. Mike says hello everyone. Can you please share some basic guidelines about backlinks specifically about the text when doing backlinks? When to use exact match keywords for anchor text link or my brand anchor text when writing a small post or short reply on forums, what information you suggest to include in the text and what links? Okay, there's a lot of questions squeezed into this one, Mike.
So on a kind of a broad level. Personally, I don't really sweat backlink ratios as far as anchor text ratio is like I used two years ago because I mainly just do everything through naked URLs and like any other any real backlinks that are going to be built are going to be built by my team and MGYB by Dadea. And he knows what to do. You just provide them with your seat set of keywords and he creates all the ratios to where I don't really bother with it because I don't really build my links outside of what we have him do.
But really, I use mainly when I'm doing like press releases, for example, because I do publish a lot of press releases, it's almost 90%, just naked URLs, do brand anchors, and very rarely actually use any keyword anchor text, because it's not really now off page, I mean, on page, that's a different story. So, you know, you want to have, if you have content silos on page, you want to make sure that you're linking through the content, you know, to daisy chain things together using variations of keywords that belong in that specific silo, but not always the same page because or, excuse me, the same keyword anchor. But as far as, you know, link building or blogging even in by the way, when you do that, if you're syndicating content to a network, it's going to make sure that you're not always hammering and getting External links from even your syndication network, your branded network, always pointing back with the same anchor text. That's why you want to do that.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]But once again, you also have all those keywords that we add the same type of keywords that we would add to a drive stack build would be the ones that we would add to the link building campaign. And it's a way to just continue to push relevancy in at different tiers. There's different sets of rules as to what you can do as far as anchor text ratios, right. So again, I just hand that over to Dadea and he handles all of it. You want to add to that? Anybody?
Adam: Not to that, but to the next part, so
Marco: Okay, yeah, yeah, that first part generic naked, and brand anchors, right? Yeah. Because what we want to do is what we want to create link diversity. Once you have that, then it's a lot more powerful when you hit it with that with that with whatever anchor text it is that the broad right and then you can go really eating hone in on the exact match, because your your link diversity is going to withstand some exact match anchors. If you don't do that, though, if you don't get those generic naked brand anchors and whatever you can in there, then what's going to happen is you're going to get it totally unnatural over optimization problems. And if you if you raise enough red flags that way, it could cause a manual which is when you get into all kinds of problems.
Bradley: Yeah, you're gonna do it,
Adam: the tech you were writing a small post or a short reply in the forums, what information do you suggest including the text and what links? For me, I mean, I start out by saying that, you know, it's, it's too vague, but if you're just doing this, I look at this as you probably want to look at it more from Hey, what information makes sense and if you're doing this for an actual strategy, that you're putting information out there, that increases the likelihood that your post is going to get traffic which I understand sounds kind of goofy, but for a forum that it's it's well received, right? And basically, I'm saying quality you know, don't just say I've got to include x y&z you know, if you're going in here and doing this for a long term strategy, I would say make sure you're putting out quality information.
Bradley: Not only that, but if you really want to know how to test what type of a text and link to use as your best link for a forum signature tested in AdWords like search, you know what I'm saying? Because if you can get your headline, and you know your brief description and and the link and the offer to convert on through AdWords, and that's what you put in your forum signature, and you'll probably have a lot more likelihood of it doing well. I mean, it's, it's because you could test it quicker as my point other than trying to have some signature line that really isn't very compelling, it doesn't convert very well. And you have to wait for weeks or months to get any results to determine that, right? Because you've done a lot of posts, you can really kind of hone that in very quickly using AdWords or Google ads, and then add those to your forum signatures, if that makes sense.
Okay, anything else? Is it better to link to most of the times the homepage or a specific service product page? hope it's not too complex of a question was a lot of questions you squeeze in there. I think it depends on what your call to action is within the content that you're using for the link building. Right. I think it makes sense to link to the homepage at times, but also to more specific.
You also, you know, more specific product and or service pages. However, you also got to keep in mind, like, what is the purpose of the content that you're doing and the overall strategy for that campaign? Because if you're trying to push, you know, specific, a specific keyword like for particular siloed, for example, you can hit any one of the pieces of content within that silo, which you would call a deep link, because it's not going to matter if you have the dawn page structured correct, which is what we talked about a lot in the mastermind, then anywhere that you're going to hit that particular silo with, you know, inbound link, equity, it's going to benefit the entire siloed. Right, so you wouldn't want to comment on that anybody good or no? I would just say, Well, no, sorry. No, as a general strategy, he should be probably looking at distributing backlinks through his inner period.
Adam: But yeah, beyond that, like Bradley said, it just depends on again, what you're, what you're referencing, or what exactly you're doing, but you definitely want to distribution
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]Bradley: Yeah, yeah, I mean, in other words, you don't want to just always hammer one or the other. Does that make sense? You want you do want to split it up and spread it out. Crazy be we can have it.
Marco: Well, what matters here is how the website is set up, right? Right setting up the whole the homepage to convert, or are you setting up a category right pages as categories or categories as pages where you're looking to push your silo through your supporting poles, and then that top market level category is going to be what you're trying to rank because that's where you want people to convert, actually, you want people to convert all along the way. But just to be sure on the question, if your link building to an inner page, right, then you make sure that you have it set up so that you're pushing that top market level category up, because that's what's going to bring all of the other keywords with it. It doesn't make sense to only link build to the homepage, if what you're trying to rank results somewhere on an inner page in the category or in a post, or maybe it's a lander, within the website, it all has to do with how everything is set up, how your website is set up. Should be how you direct your link building.
Bradley: Awesome. Thanks, man.
Adam: Sorry, real quick. I've got to bring this up now. So Wayne has a question for you. It's the most recent one. But says Bradley, Your voice sounds very different today. Is this part of the new makeover for Hump Day hangouts to make it more sexy? Okay, thanks, Wayne. I'm not really sure how to answer that one. Yeah, let's take a compliment. Yeah, just couldn't we have to read that? Alright,
How Long Before You Can See The Results Of Battle Plan 3.0?
so next one is I have been following the Battle Plan 3.0 for a GMB asset. It's been about two weeks since I followed steps one and two of the plan. How long before I find out the results? I don't know if I'm facing stiff competition or middle of the road competition. How long do I have to wait before I hit it again? I did. I didn't want to read set the G algorithm Thanks. Okay, um, put all the pieces together. You know, that's what we talked about, if you use the Battle Plan, it's not a, if you just do 25% of the work, you won't get 25% of the results, if that makes sense, because you put all the pieces together and it has a more like a, an exponential effect, if you will. So it will work a lot better if you put all of the components together to create that entity loop or that SEO shield, whatever you want to call it. So if one and two if you put one in two pieces together or completed steps one and two, and you know, you know, complete the next steps to and I wouldn't stop until all that entire asset creation. You know that SEO shield is really put together. So we're going to be talking a lot more about that in the coming weeks for some of the stuff that we've got coming up. But Marco, do you want to add to that? I think he's muted.
Marco: Sorry. I do want to talk about this a little bit? Because something about this really stands out to me. And I don't want to pick on him, because I see that he's just beginning. It's following the Battle Plan. He's in step two. But dude, how can you not know your competition? If you're just starting out? Like sometimes when you get to the point where you know how much power you can push, when you know exactly what you're doing, then the competition doesn't matter. It's just a matter of what you're going to do to take the competition down. You're at the start so you have to do thorough competition analysis to know exactly how much power it is that you're going to need to push. Because a lot of this, you might do too much, and it might not be necessary, or you may be doing too little and more might be necessary. So I mean, you have to know what are people paying for AdWords in this niche? Google ads, how much are they paying? are they paying for Facebook ads, YouTube ads, other ads? How many competing pages does it have? Is it in the 2000s? Is it in the millions but singles is it in the 10s of millions is that in the hundreds of millions? Once you have all of that together, you'll know exactly how tough and how stiff the competition is and then you'll know exactly what to do. But the plan is still the same right syndication network, drive stack plus Gsite, press releases link building, and then embed runs and link building. And then you you do all of that before you start analyzing the data and seeing where your project has landed in rank. Because you'll see that different keywords rank differently, different niches rank differently. So you have to know whether you need to isolate one of your market level keywords one of your top keywords that may be stuck second, third page, you may have to isolate that and hit that individually. Once you've done everything.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]So without completing everything part one of the plan, as Bradley said, finish everything first. Once you do that link building one which it which is which is the final piece, you let it sit 21 days, four weeks, and then you come back and analyze the data and see what it is that you have to do. But guys starting out, when you're starting in this, it's a must for you to be able to analyze the competition and understand what it is that you're up against. Because whether it's you investing your money, or whether you're investing your clients' money you have what you're going to spend your money on, and how much of it.
Adam: Yeah, and I'm not going to be able to get the quote right, Marco, maybe you can help me but this reminds me of what you said, might have been during your talk of POFU Live, but basically like Sun Tzu and the art of war and saying you want to come to the battle knowing you're already going to win and you can't do that. If you don't know what your competition is.
Marco: You have to know that you're going to win the war before you fight the first battle. I'm paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact quote of him but but it's along those lines. How can you know whether you going into you know, you can't go blind into battle I might a bow and arrow and I'm going up against how it's all right. I'm going up against a nuclear missile that well I'm not going to do very very well. So once once you lay it all out, and you're absolutely right, it is war. And you understand your enemy your competition is your enemy always. And you know exactly what it is that you have to do to take down your enemy Well, you you win the war and you haven't done and think about it all you've done is study the enemy. It was I love Sun Tzu and thank you. That's awesome.
Is It Possible To Target National Keywords By Using Verified GMBs?
Alright, so the next one says Is it possible to target national keywords by using verified GMBs? So are gonna hand that one over to you because I know you talked about different strategies for that kind of stuff. He's got an example a follow up question next. So again, is it possible to target national keywords by using verified GMB? For example, a long tail keyword like how to lose weight?
Marco: This isn't totally an independent, it depends question. Yeah, what is it that you're that you're trying to do because one thing is local. And what you're targeting is the proximity factor and then overriding the proximity factor so that you can get into outlying areas and target those. You can totally do that. You can totally extend the centroid and somebody was just somebody who guys who was in our local GMB Pro just came out with extending the centroid in in his own training his own original train, and I'm not going there. I'm just saying what the fuck man? But yes, you can extend the century and there are different ways that we can for extending the century, so you can totally do it, you're going to need a whole lot of GMBs.
Because in a place like like New York City, Chicago, LA, you're going to need to push a lot of power inside inside just I'm going to get one GMB do a whole bunch of pose, and then that's going to get me where I need to go. It Again, it depends on the competition. Now, if it's a national keyword, like cosmetic manufacturer, and there's no location, like you don't need to use location, there's nothing location based. Why would you target it with a GMB? Other than to create like a national headquarters for the brand, but that would be branding. That wouldn't be so so this is this question is kind of confusing. Yes. I don't know about you guys. Because because they were talking about two different things here. And maybe what what you what you're trying but what you're thinking is you want to become the knowledge panel for the keywords. Well, that's brand plus keyword association. And I think Fabian is in RYS Academy Reloaded and we teach that all day long we we should we show how to do that? I mean, we've been doing it for a while will be going in five years and mates and says Bradley ranked is Virginia SEO, SEO Virginia? So yes, it can be done. It depends on what you're trying to do.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]All right, but I'll take you to the next question lockout Marco, you guys. It's like back and forth. Is it? Yeah, so I totally said what I meant if or is maybe hosting original content on the money site, but on the branding network, instead of syndicating content, hosting high quality spun versions of posts from money site. Best regards? No, I mean, there's no reason to. That's what I'm saying. Like if it's your branding, network, your branded network, then there's no reason that you would need do post spunversions of your money site post because I've just republished the money site posts again, I don't recommend using spun content as any on page or any first tier link building stuff, because it's just not a good idea to do that now it's even if it's high quality spun stuff, which I guess you can still get away with that if it's done very, very well. Okay, cool.
Will An Existing (Non-Semantic Mastery) GSite And Drive Stack Interfere With The Ones Being Built By MGYB?
Next one, Katie says Hey guys, I was talking to a dentist about his SEO he told me his son was doing it but he was getting nowhere I spoke to the son and he told me he bought some gigs on Fiverr for Google sites and drive files I told the dentist you get what you pay for. And then I may be able to help do it properly. Can I go to MGYB and by G site and drive stack for this one or is it too late? Well, the current g sites are drive stack his son setup interfere with the one MGYB would build. I don't think the sun will let me delete all of the work he has done. Thanks.
Well, I'll let Marco also answer on this one but I would absolutely get a new drive stack and G site that is built correctly. Which will likely the other one because the other one was not put together properly. So it's not really pushing any relevancy or entity validation, if that makes sense. So once it's done right, that would be the one that would come be associated with your entity because it will be done correctly. But Marco, what would you say was is it critical that the other one would be removed or deleted?
Marco: No it won't matter and as a matter of fact what what you could do is add those satellites to push into the new drive stack was decide that we're going to create for for you which is done right, then you can link building to all of those which is only going to help I mean, it's not gonna hurt. Absolutely not. But you what you do need is that is that friend that drive stack empty site created my way, not somebody else's way. Because they always skip corners. They never do the work that they're supposed to think about. And I've said this before, it takes between six and eight hours for a train building. Jessen, by the way that the original RYS to do one and do it properly. Someone was going to charge you, maybe, I don't know, 50 bucks. And they're going to spend six hours, maybe eight hours building and drive stack? No, no, it's not gonna happen. The money just isn't there, right for five bucks. 10 bucks, 15 bucks. We charge what we charge for a reason. You and you're absolutely right that and when I saw this, I couldn't believe it you do get what you pay for. And if you go to Fiverr sometimes you've got some really good gigs in there that do a specific thing. But when you're talking about pushing power, the Rank Your Shit Academy Reloaded me. There's only one way to do it. You go with the original.
I agree. Yeah, this one I would probably be careful if I was in this position, because now I'm thinking okay, there's someone else in there. So this to me goes back to managing client expectations and saying, Well, now there's a son who's got, you know, backend access to everything. So you might want to be managing to him. The son's involved and he's screwing around with stuff on that I don't know about then, you know, I can't be held responsible for some of this stuff. Yeah. working against our goals, so I'd be careful with it.
Okay, moving on the next one. See, I'm trying to find a guy stand by me. I think Jordan had a good one. He said mastermind plus sub mastermind group equals the cat's meow. I totally agree with that. It's not a question but I like it.
Do You Work With Third Party Syndication Networks And Stacks That Are Not Setup Correctly?
Okay, so the next question I see is I have questions about your done for you service syndication and stacks. I've had other vendors create those before but don't think they were set up correctly. I see a theme here any any any problem with having you do them again? No, actually, that's the best thing to do is just come on, come get it done correctly. And then you can analyze the ones that we've built for you versus the ones that you got from other vendors and, you know, figure out what was done wrong and apply it to the old ones. Yeah, yeah.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]That idea. So yeah, that's what I would do, because that's what a lot of people, I mean, see that I go by RYS Academy. And that way you can go through the training and then you can understand what was done and then go fix the ones but again, your time is best spent on just purchasing them and letting somebody else do all that manual work, right.
Do You Create One Google Stack For Each Service Offering URL?
So the next one is Nathan says, when you build these stacks for people I know you ask them for the main keyword However, what if they offer multiple services? Do you create one g stack for each URL? For example, the company that offered HVAC and plumbing services do you create a stack for each URL or service offering a company slash and he went through several examples now, I mean, you can but another way to do it is to have a brand stack created, which is what we do. We recommend for whatever your primary keyword is or keywords, top level keywords, and then from there, once you get it back, and at some point, we're going to provide this as an additional service, but once you get the branded drive stack back, you can go in and clone the folders that are contained in the the primary drive stack folder, and then re optimize that it does require some manual work, but for each one of your silos or product services or categories on your site, so that way, you're mirroring your internal files from the drive stack inside of a branded and overall branded Drive folder. So again, you're just building that relevancy, you're going to mirror the same type of site structure that you have on your website into your drive stack. It does require some manual work. But the most important thing is to have that branded drive stack with the top-level keywords associated with that brand. So that makes sense. And Marco, do you want to come in on that?
Marco: No, that's what I would have said. No, we're not going to create both. If you submit HVAC, and if you submit plumbing, and you, you asked us to do keyword research, we're going to give you everything that's related to that. If nothing you have to do your own keyword research and submit the keywords that you want related to your brand which as Bradley said, we asked for about 50 and go for top keywords. Don't go for the long tails, the long tails you're going to get as you build it out as you build your supporting post and as you build your inner pages and you mirror your G site is up your money site on on the G site. But Bradley just so you guys know and I just got the news yesterday we're testing the drive stack and G site as we speak. It's coming right it's gonna make it a lot easier. And right now like if he wants to make it easier on himself and clone, the drive stacks, then what he can do is he can make a donation to my charity and then right to Christie for the webinars right through charity webinars for last year and the scripts, and I'll put the link to the donation. That's awesome. Thank you.
And I'm not seeing any other questions you guys see any more? No will give people a minute here and I know that there's a little bit of a delay here. There's not much delay through zoom though.
So um, I did see a question in YouTube here. I said we're in Colorado, we're still in Denver, Colorado. Yeah, we're a very short period. So what is the URL if people want to get the early bird discount for next year POFU Live go to pofulive.com/2022. I'm pulling up to make sure I'm not lying, pofulive.com/2020 and make sure you use the coupon code 2020 or 2020 action taker. Yeah. That's going to be the lowest price ever. Oh, yeah. It definitely was a good event. I thought it was really good. Well, actually, let's touch on that.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]Real quick we got a few minutes we can wait for some questions here I want to share with people so we had Kathryn Jones. So if you haven't seen her you can probably get search for CF design school Semantic Mastery, check out a webinar we had with her, she dropped some good knowledge for everybody. Especially a lot of the people, they're growing their agencies growing their consulting and you know, she taught them and us about funnel design but not just you know, hey, me do this to make your funnel look pretty. But you know, it's about converting, not being pretty. And then how you can do this and how in a short period of time, you can create these things that you know, you can really crush it in terms of selling to clients or adding it onto your agency. So that was pretty cool. I don't guys have anything else to say about Katherine's presentation I was gonna get and then Adam Benjamin was another one of our guest speakers. That was great guys got a ton of sales experience. This was really cool talking to him getting some insights about basically kind of brand positioning, which tied in really well with what her non talked about about just one second.
Part of an audience presentation was about personal branding. And then how you can help yourself basically by growing yourself as an authority and it's not some, you know, 25 step crazy, you know, diagram you got to follow to do this it was it was pretty simple, but combining that with what I think Adam said would be really powerful, so cool
What Was The Biggest Takeaway That You Can Share From POFU 2019?
Wayne says what was the biggest takeaway that you can share from POFU Live 2019? Uh, did you should go to pofulive.com/2020 and Wayne because what we want to see you there, and to you know, I'm not dodging the question, I'll let these guys answer it. But like we've told people and like all of the testimonial say when we just ask people, hey, what do you want to share about Cooper life? You know, hey, content was great. It took something away immediately that paid for it. But on top of that, it's you know, interacting with people, and that's what you get out of a small group. So whether it's us whether it's a guest speakers, or whether it's each other and saying, Oh, you know what, I have not been doing this one little thing or, you know, you open my eyes to a whole new area. I could either be doing for myself doing for clients stuff like that. But that's consistently what we've heard. Yeah.
Hernan: Yeah, I think so too. If I can add real quick, I think that as digital marketing, or digital agency owners, most of the people that come to POFU Live there, they spend most of their time alone, right? They might have a couple of VAs, they might have small team, but most of them are remote, right? So come in here and being in a room for three days with people that have kind of the same ideas that you have. And some of them might be, you know, even ahead than you and some of them you might help to get to the point where you are right now, I think that that's one of the best things that can possibly happen to an entrepreneur or digital agency owner. So yeah, yeah.
Bradley: And on a purely SEO basis, I want to say that it was awesome to hear how just putting the SEO shield together, the way that we teach works across the board, and you know, here in that for some several hours remembers that POFU Live to talk about how it's like the cheat code. so it's awesome because it's validation beyond. I mean, we all knew it worked anyways. But it's really good to hear when members actually take our advice and put it together the way that we teach. And then they get the same kind of results. And so that to me, was a very great takeaway to know that we've got something that's been working for us for years that continues to work beyond updates to or through or despite of updates, you know what I mean? So it's just very encouraging to see that. Yeah.
Adam: So Wayne, that popped into answer your question for myself, I think, you know, the biggest takeaway looking for something like either tactical or real world was Rob got up. Rob gave a great, great presentation and then he hopped on the whiteboard. And right and that's where the magic happens. And so went through stuff, but he's going to be sharing that with people in Bradley already mentioned SEO shield, and exactly what people can do. And basically taking the Battle Plan, combining it with what's been done already and what will come in MGYB, and saying you now here's what you got to do. So again, not to use it, but it's on its way out. And I will share it with everybody as soon as we have something.
Marco: I'd like to answer Wayne's question because my biggest takeaway, not only this year, but also last year, is that the people who come to us, the action takers, they generally have already have everything as SEO wise that they need to get results. Because we've been proving it since since we started that when you implement what we give you, you get results. Now, what I often see and in my mini mastermind and in doing this for so long, is that people simply get stuck. I mean, it's a joke, right? Don't get stuck in the middle, but are you getting the middle of the big fat fuck you.
But it's true guys. Do you want to finger prodding you in the middle? When you're not doing anything? Is that what you're really looking for? Or are you constantly going to go taking action and doing the things that you need to do to get to where you want to be. Because it's not being where you have to be. That sucks. It sucks having to be somewhere and having to do something. But when you want to do it, and you like to do it, even if it's something that you know you have to do, to continue on that path to POFU, it's fulfilling. And you don't get all of these different things joining and pulling you away. Because you're hyper focus, you know that you can get results. We give them to you, we give you everything. You can come and reach out to us personally and we'll answer your questions. We'll do everything we can to help you make money, but we still have people stuck in the middle even mastermind members, we have people stuck in the middle, because they won't do the shit that they're supposed to do to be successful.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]And so one of the things that you need to do to be successful is get with like minded people, and the only way you're going to do that is by attending these events. And I don't I don't mean the bullshit events where you're going to have hundreds of people. And you know you, you do that for networking. More than anything you do that to see how you're going to make money and when and where do it do that. But when you really want to get with like minded people who are hyper focus on making money, that's what you need to be in one of these events, the real ones, the ones where you get the gritty living by the ones where you get down to business, down with brass tacks and you get what you're supposed to get so that you can continue making money.
Adam: definitely, hey, real quick got some questions on YouTube. I want to answer before we hop to the next question, which I love and click SEO. But first of all, Brian Kato says what's up guys? Hey, good to meet you, man.
Do You Do Stacks For Dating Sites?
And then also another Brian was asking do you guys do stacks for dating sites. We don't believe we have any restrictions. I mean, I don't have I don't think that crosses any lines for us building stacks, right?
Yeah, yeah. Because a lot of those can have things like male enhancement, and it depends on the affiliate that you're running. We're not going to do any of that, but I'm not gonna have my people don't do any Yeah, we just don't do it. So we don't get them. Brian and you're watching this just email [email protected] To tell them what your actual like what your keywords are, and they'll write Marco they'll be able to tell them from that whether or not they can build it, right. So no doubt No, no pharma, gambling. I don't know. It's epic. Guys. It has to be in English. Don't ask us to do Hungarian because that's the one and the money that we have to target to do a one of is not feasible.
Can You Build An Agency Just By Outsourcing To Whitelabels?
Yeah. I so click SEO as the next one, he says or she says can you build an agency just outsourcing to white labels? Yeah, you certainly can. I like good. Jordan Fowler followed up. He's one of our mastermind members and very successful but agency owner. And so and I agree very much with what he said, and that is that you can but you have to understand what it is that you're talking about for when you do get questions, or at least be honest and say that you'll get the answer if you don't have it, you know, whatever the case may be, you want to make sure that you're not talking at a on with ignorance to a potential customer or client with, you know, without being able to answer the questions, and it's something that you can learn as you go, depending on what all your service offerings are, you know, we were going to be talking a lot about that in the coming weeks or coming months for for, you know, different things that you can do to build an agency without you have to do all of the work. And so I think it's important to understand the concepts, the foundation of it, then then from there, you can you know, you can learn how to best manage questions and such for each one of the services depending on what kind of also confidence level you have in your done for you service providers. Does that make sense? Yeah. So anybody want to comment on now I think we're understanding just the basic Six at least I mean, at a minimum, but you know, I, this may not be a great analogy. I'm doing this on the fly, but I was like, can you own? Maybe a few automotive repair shops and not be a mechanic? Sure. Is it going to benefit you greatly to understand the business you're in? Yeah, you know, better. So I'll leave it at that. But I know Markco has got some more to say, well, we make it simple, right? We not only provide the services that you need them for you to, to get everything that you need to do for the client. But if you join the mastermind, then you get access to us so that if you run into tough questions, you can just come back, excuse me, come ask us. How do I answer this question? client asked me this. I need an answer what I say and we'll give you an answer. And we've simplified every we boil it down to make it so simple. That I I think that people think that our simplicity means that it doesn't work. And it's just the other way around as people make it so complex, that they need to confuse you because it confuse, they can keep making money from. We want it we want to boil all that shit away all that garbage. All we want is that pure rock we want. We want that good.
Guys, that's what because when we have that when we when we simplify it, that's what really works. And that's why this is this is so good in the way that we've set it all up for you to come and take advantage of it. It just rocks and all you have to do is join the mastermind. I mean, it's so simple. I don't know why more people don't don't do it. Maybe I don't I don't know doubters doubting Thomases, whatever it is, get past it, because you need to make so much money.
[ninja-popup ID=2607][/ninja-popup]Cool. Thank you. Alright, so we're almost Well, we still got about 10 minutes. Well, I think we're gonna have to end it a couple minutes early, right? Yeah, cuz I know we're streaming through yours. Oh, no.
What Else Can You Do To Improve The Rank Of A Website Aside From Having GMB Drive Stack, 3 Press Releases, And Aged Site?
Fitz says I have a site that is showing 27 Google console page three on main keyword manual search number one main keyword on GMB, drive stack, three press releases, aged site, what can I do to improve? I don't know, because that was kind of a word salad at the end there. I'm not really sure what you were saying. But as far as if you've got a page three, excuse me keywords on page three in Search Console, it means that they're closed with some proper maybe on page or maybe some supporting articles that through the same silo that would link to those that page specifically syndicated across your network, for example, that's going to help to kind of reinforce the theme for that particular post. Again, this is all provided that you have proper on page if your structures poor on page, then it's going to be difficult to push, but it will respond to so much better to these cut type of tactics if you have good good structure, good internal linking. So doing that syndicating to their you know, maybe adding some additional Drive files within a particular, you know, siloed Drive folder that would do the same thing link back to those posts, the supporting posts that were linking to, to kind of boost that the posts on that are showing up with the keywords, the pages that are showing up on page three, that kind of stuff. Those are all things that you can do. also getting traffic to them, either through organic means or through buying way to traffic to those new posts that have been created is going to help to kind of activate all of that stuff. So, I mean, obviously, you know, just all the stuff we talked about mirror that same sort of paid page or post on a G site. Once again, you can even iframe it in there. That's all the stuff we get into in RYS Academy. Marco, do you have any comments on that?
Marco: Yeah, GMB post silos.
Bradley: Okay. Yeah, you gotta GMB. It says your, your, your question their Fitz. So yeah, you can silo those together as well. Use press releases press release silo stalking. We talked about that recently, too. It's on our YouTube channel. So once again, you just got a mirror all that stuff through all the different assets that you have available. Okay, then link link below to all that. And once that's done, you take it, you take you take all that and you run an embed gig and you link build to all that and then see where it see where it sits after that.
Adam: You know, I just thought back to something where Wayne was asking us and you know, I realized I don't think we mentioned that. Everyone here, you know, that asked about link building and embeds, you've got to talk to dead. Yeah. And for the people who know who that is, or has heard the him mentioned, he was at POFU Live two years in a row from India, flew over and pay for his ticket came over and joined us and today this time he's dropping some bombs did a case study was helping people out? That was really cool. It was just really good to see. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. People appreciate it. So Wayne, that was another one that was cool because I know you know who he is. And for other people who who may think you know, he's just somebody exists out in the internet like real deal came to down and joined us the second year in a row was all sounds awesome. That's great. Well, listen, I don't see any other questions. So I think it's time we can wrap it up a few minutes early guys. So we want to say hi again from Dubai from Denver, Semantic Mastery from Denver except for Marco but we piped him in as usual. So we'll see you guys next week. See you guys