In episode 236 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked how to find the center of a town in Google Maps.
The exact question was:
How do I figure out the center of my town using google maps?
In episode 236 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked how to find the center of a town in Google Maps.
The exact question was:
How do I figure out the center of my town using google maps?
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Adam: everybody welcomes to Hump Day hangouts Episode 236. The episode where we asked you the questions. Now we'll get to that actually we do have a question for you who are viewing today and if you're watching the replay but first we're going to say hello to everybody. We got everybody here so going to start on the left with Chris How are you doing today?
Chris: Doing good. Not excited to be back. It's basically winter temperatures here. It snowed again rain. five degrees Celsius.
Adam: Okay, take it you're back in Austria, then you're definitely not.
Chris: Yeah, unfortunately, I'm already making plans to fly back.
Adam: tough, tough or not. Hernan, how are you doing? Are you What are you warm or cold?
Hernan: Now it's cold, man. It's getting chillier, but it's okay. It's a nice time of the season. I am enjoying this and down here in Buenos Aires. I'll be Miami in a couple of weeks. So if you happen to be in the South Florida area, hit me up. Maybe we can grab something to drink or whatever. But yeah, looking good, man. A lot of work but everything is soaking up.
Adam: Cool, cool. Alright, Marco. How about you, man?
Marco: Damn. It's cold today, man. Yeah, it's 72 I'm gonna have to go walk around the corner and come back. If people are flying here and there I don't know. I'll just walk around the corner they'll get better.
Adam: I got sidetracked there. Bradley. How are you doing man?
Bradley: Wayne Clayton says his name Wayne Clayton hashtag stood looking at his comment. That's funny. Anyways, I'm good. Glad to be here. So, not quite as warm as Marco who's saying it's cold. It's freaking cold in Virginia right now. I don't know why it's like 60 degrees. Cool for this time of year. So yeah.
Adam: I'm near San Francisco is supposed to be nice this time of year and we're supposed to get like a month's worth of rain in the next 24 to 48 hours. So that's gonna be nice. Yeah. Yeah, enough of the weather reports. If you're new thanks for holding with us here while we give you a worldwide update on weather conditions. And I want to say, first of all, you're in the right spot. Thanks for checking out Hump Day Hangouts. Whether you're watching us live right now or whether you're catching the replay. This is the place to be you can always go to semanticmastery.com/hdquestions for that week, Humpday Hangouts, ask your questions. Get them up there ahead of time, it's a first come first serve, we just ask that you try to not ask you know, 10 questions at once just one maybe to let other people go or else we'll kind of have to skip your answers because we can't focus on one person for too long. It just wouldn't be fair.
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Bradley: The question is, ever since we had to switch to hang out since Google events shut the Google events page is down, which is where we had hosted it for shit three, we're over three years now. Right. We're going on for four years now. Our way? Yeah. It's been a long time since we've been doing this. But yeah, we're like in four and a half years now. We've been doing this and it's only been like three months or so since they shut Google events down. You know, Google Plus down, which is where we were hosting them and we used to have a lot more engagement on our Hump Day Hangouts, that we do now. And it could be because of that stupid, you know, the stupid chat app that we're using now, which was better than the Facebook chat app that got some accounts suspended or whatever locked or that kind of stuff. But we're still trying to work our way through like finding the best place to host these guys. So we want to ask your opinion, those of you that are attending right now, today live, posting that silly 1980s looking chat box that we're using right now, where would you prefer us to host Hump Day hangouts directly on YouTube watch pages? Or should perhaps we try to stream it into Facebook and use our Facebook group, the SEO Marketing tutorials or whatever group and maybe host it there?
You guys let us know because honestly, the attendance rate has gone down and the number of questions has gone down. Ever since we shut Google or Google events shut down. And so we're debating whether we should keep it going or not. certainly, want to I've always enjoyed these, you know, four and a half years into it. I'd hate to give it up. I've really have enjoyed this a lot. But honestly, if we're not going to get the engagement, we're not going to show up and answer three or four questions and shut it down. So we would like to ask you guys for your opinion. Do you think we should try it over on YouTube? Should we maybe try it and Facebook or give us your suggestion? You know, let us know. So with that said,
Adam: and I'm biased, thank you. I believe that's Mike crest. Yeah, that's awesome. Love the 80s if you love the goofy chatbot that's okay, too. Just for an unbiased opinion for me. Okay, cool. Yeah, we'll take everything into account and we'll let everybody now but yeah, we got any other announcements, you guys I think that was everything I had.
Bradley: There's a stuffed animal dog talking. I do like the fact that this chat outlet says meme again though because for a while we couldn't even do that.
Like we have to hear in a public setting, right. So, you know, for example, if a member comes in, and they want us to analyze a website, or a specific marketing campaign or something like that is if they're willing to share that they will go you know, deep dive in it, Marco and I really analyze it, pick it apart, in a nice way, kind of point out how it can get better results and that kind of stuff. And that's really where the value comes in, guys, because that's, you know, again, it's about networking with others. Yes, there's a lot of training in the mastermind, yes, you get discounts and things like that, but that's not what the value is, in my opinion. The value is in networking with us and the other members, getting questions answered in almost real time, about pretty much any sort of issue you're having in marketing or business related regardless or outsourcing? Or, I mean, some of our members even asked questions that aren't even marketing or business related. And that's, that's perfectly fine. That's what it's for. So does anybody want to comment on that or any other not yet?
Marco: I'd like to comment on that on one of your comments. You, you're the nice guy. So you will look at a website nicely. But if a width website is crappy, I'm going to tell someone, you your website sucks. Your SEO sucks. I'm a real man, I can't help it. That's just the way I am. I'm going to give it to you. kind of try to shock you into seeing what you're not seeing or what you're avoiding seeing what you're avoiding doing. And that's what this is all about getting real. With people getting past all of that shiny shit that they're fed every day. All of that bullshit, all of that crap that that doesn't work. It's just made, so that so that they will so that people will just spend more money. There's no purpose to it, other than to get the people to fork over more money, more training. That's never really complete. What we try to do is we try to give you the steps, right? That you need to take in order to take your shit to the next level, whatever your shit on it online might be, it could be anything. But guys, please understand that our purpose is to help you.
If you go into our Facebook group into our mastermind, I said, Look going there a month, and see that the value is really in that Facebook group, and being able to ask us all questions and getting an answer almost immediately. If it's the weekend, of course, sometimes, I'm often with family, but someone sometimes jumps in on weekends and ask us questions. So it's not just here that we answer questions, we ask your questions in all of our groups, but mainly our focus is the mastermind. And no matter what your question is, we try to get you an answer. And if we don't know then the answer might just be we don't know. because trust me, I don't know a whole lot of shit. I'm still learning every day. But we do try to come up with an answer.
Or try to steer you in the right direction and we don't have it will tell you, yeah, we will work on it or just give you or send you in the right direction. So that's what I have to say about this.
Bradley: Sweet. Okay, now I got to find the actual questions and comments now.
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Bradley: There you go.
All right. We had one from a few days ago, Cool Cat says how do I figure out the center of my town using Google Maps? As far as I know, if you type in the name of your city, then typically the map pulls up with the city center as the center point of the map. Has that changed? Or is that correct? Marco Do you know?
Marco: As far as I know, that's the way you just type in the city. You can type in the state if there are other cities that are named the same Island because there are in other states. You just type in the city and you should get to the geographical what Google considers the geographical center of the city.
So if I say Culpeper. Yeah. Yeah, so that should be the center of the map here should be what it thinks is the center of Culpeper, in this case, right? As far as I know, that's how it is now, I mean, so you just dropped your pin somewhere like you know, somewhere in there. And usually when you click on it twice, it puts a little great pin maybe you've got a zoom all the way in anyways, typically when you There goes finally there's a little gray pan and there are your geo coordinates now there might be another way to do it you can probably search Google and say how to find city center and probably get an answer so you know when in doubt use Google.
Alright, so we're gonna move on Dan demand from Canada says hey gents, I didn't have a question about how to handle a mass page WordPress site in relation to 10 gm bees, all in a 30-mile radius of the city of the center city. If I'm working to rank these 10 GMBs all for the same niche, does it make sense to set up city pages? For example remodelers.com/locations/city, and then point citations to those individual city pages. I was then contemplating directing the city pages to the individual city, GMB assets. thoughts. Good idea. Terrible. Thanks, man. Well, I'm not sure why you would I mean, if you're going to build a page, a location based page for each GMB, I'm not sure why you would redirect it, why wouldn't you just use that location-based GMB or the location-based page as the website, the landing page URL for the GMB asset, see what I'm saying?
Like if you're building I mean, unless it's because it's a mass page site that you're doing that and it's a spammy type looking or you know spamming type site, which most mass page sites are, in which case I wouldn't build citations to that because then what happens if you get that site to deindex which is very likely happened, right? Mass page sites that happen to kind of regularly. And so if you're building citations to that, and then you have to redirect it, what happens if it gets suspended or, you know, deindexed, then you've either got to go clean up. You can still leave it redirected. But now you're redirecting through a potentially, you know, deindex domain penalize domain. So I wouldn't do that. That's why I'm saying if you were going to build citations, I would build citations directly to the GMB assets or set up a domain with subdomains and have a separate subdomain for each location. Because that way, if anyone of those subdomains now you can't do that with them, I mean, I guess you could with a mass page site, but you're trying to do it all on one domain. So location pages, inner pages, but again, I wouldn't do that with the mass page site and build citations to it backlink shore. Because I mean, you know, no big deal but with citations again, if you lose that domain. Now you've got a whole bunch of citations to clean up unless you left the redirect up through a deindex domain, which I wouldn't recommend doing.
So personally, I would not do it that way. I would build everything like if you were going to build out and self-hosted site for each location, I would do it on subdomains or not use a Mass Page Builder is what I'm saying, you guys, there's nothing wrong with creating location pages and having inner pages for multiple locations. When you're building something out like this, the problem occurs is if you're you've got spam, the map addresses number one, and number two, if you're doing something spammy to the domain, but if you're keeping the domain clean, which is what we teach, right, I mean, we really do we teach about keeping the primary domain clean, building your tier one assets out and you know, especially the way that we build them out syndication networks to drive stacks using press releases, citations also count, you know, all of that stuff, then you can do all your spammy stuff up to that and keep your main your primary domain, clean Gsites. That's a big part of it. What I'm saying is you can build the inner location pages and it's not going to be an issue, as long as you're not doing anything spammy. Now, again, I want to say this with the caveat, if you are using GMBs that are spammed addresses, there's always that chance that they get suspended because they're not real physical locations. So in that case, I wouldn't want to have all of them necessarily associated with a money site domain, as opposed to if you can still do it, but I would recommend doing it through a subdomain. Even if it was just a redirect to like the GMB website URL. Right. So that's, you know, whatever your business site, GMB website, right, you can still use a branded domain in that case and set up a sub domain redirect for each one of those to just redirect. I've got several projects like that where I'm using a branded domain. Can you guys still hear me?
So I can't really give you the best advice on that. I certainly wouldn't build citations to a mass index or mass, a mass page type site. Any comments on that?
Marco: No, I don't have any because I don't use math page builder.
Bradley: Yeah. Fitz, what's up a fence? He says, Is there a way to embed a GMB post into a G site? Not that I'm aware of it because Marco would be able to answer that, but as far as I know, GMB posts cannot be iframe, correct?
Marco: Yes, they can.
Bradley: They can. Really? Okay.
Marco: Yeah, yeah, they can. Okay, forgive me then. I was wrong. Alright, so there you go, Fitz. Have you tried using just an iframe generator, and with the GMB post URLs or something secretive that we can't talk about here?
Marco: No. I mean it's just a straight iframe, like YouTube and or anything else? Okay, the iframe code and I was just playing with a day the other day so I'm pretty sure I'll go back on look at my notes, but I'm pretty sure that it's one of the ones that I tried and yes, you can.
Bradley: Okay. So there you go try it fits use the iframe generator, which is right there. And check it out. So it looks like Scott already answered it. Sorry, I didn't even see that Scott till just now. So it looks like you can and Scott is confirming that huh? Okay, cool. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate that Scott Walker somebody. So he's saying go into GMB site and get the URL for the post will be saved individually and have a URL like yes, it's those long funky URL, place the URL and the iframe generator, right. Create the iframe use classic Google sites to embed the iframe insert HTML. There you go. That's Yeah, you can insert the HTML as an element in the classic G sites. So cool. It does actually do that. That's cool. I didn't but you can.
Marco: You can also iframe it into the new Gsites.
Bradley: Can you? I've never done any work in the new g sites on
Marco: There's an embed in the menu. Well, somebody's coming through.
Bradley: I was watching soccer or something?
Mike, Chris says he doesn't miss the old way he hated his g sweet account. Okay. James, wherever we end up saying he can't do means on YouTube comments so so might have to be in Facebook.
If you host it on the Facebook page, we still upload videos to YouTube? Yes, BJ. And what I meant was if we host it on Facebook will stream it into Facebook. It'll still be primarily through YouTube, or through perhaps zoom Mark has been pushing us to do that for quite some time. I didn't want to get away from YouTube, but we can also use like something like OBS to stream from YouTube into Facebook simultaneously. Right? So yeah, that too. So should we do? Yeah, I mean YouTube is where we get most you know, we've got you to know close to 7000 subscribers in there and it's just it's we got a ton of content in there so I'm not going to get away from that. I wish I could Can I delete that this is terrible. Unbelievable unit towards these guys I want you to look.
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If you're subscribed to our channel, you should get notifications in Gmail, if you're using Gmail and the social tab as well as if you're in YouTube, it should give you a notification at the top all that kind of stuff. Here we also send out emails By the way, Adam does every 30 minutes or 30 minutes before Hump Day Hangouts. If you're on our list, you should get an email to. Okay, keep on moving. Adam. Wayne says okay, Wayne is talking about Adams Facebook group that he has called the real world productivity growth group. Yeah, Adam does get a lot of cool stuff in there, guys. If you want to learn how to be more productive, get automate stuff, you know, make your life easier using apps and Zapier and slack. Can you tell if you want to go check out Adams group, Adam that I do outsell that probably not
Adam: my skin? Yeah, if anybody's interested in that stuff if that's your jam, or you want to make things easier on yourself, whether it's just productivity, time management, automate all that sort of stuff then that's a place to be. If that stuff makes you want to cry, then don't join the group that's not the place for you
All right, here's a real question from Mike crest. He says having problems getting my G stacks to rank or pushes power, follows the plan, hit links, embeds, PBNs, added content increase the depth and pages just finding they don't push I know the market will likely hammer me. But these are built by you guys any tips or tricks to make these push? Well, I'm going to jump on that briefly before Marco goes off on a tangent on a rant. But honestly, I don't expect my drive stack files to rank it all just so you guys know what my expectation is when I'm using drive stacks, which I'm using it for everything now as well, for even quite some time. I didn't use them on everything but I am now because what I but I don't expect the files that drive stack files to rank at all what I expect them to rank is what I'm linking to, like, for example, could be a G site, or could be a money site or could be a number of tier one properties that I'm trying to rank. And I've got a new business that I just started recently that I'm going to be talking about a lot in the mastermind over the next few weeks, or coming months really, because it's, it's starting to do really well for me. And I just set up a Click Funnels page, a landing page. And it was interesting because, and I talked about this in the Syndication Academy update webinar that was also like the MGYB webinar that we did a few weeks ago where we were talking about the why syndication networks are every bit as powerful now in 2019, as they were before. The way that the power has shifted away from just doing posting and syndicating, which is still certainly helpful is that they help to validate and solidify an entity. And I proved that with this new business, this new website and I just bought a branded domain. I created a new name for this business. And there but apparently that that business name, it's similar to several other types of businesses. So it wasn't 100% unique. It is unique but it was very similar to several other businesses with a similar name, excuse me.
And so anyway, I set up a Click Funnels landing page, I flesh that page out Well, it's got content on it questions and answers and things like that, but it's just a single page, Click Funnels website, essentially. And it was when I would do a search for that company name. It was, you know, that the, which was my title tag essentially along with a couple of keywords. For the first three weeks or so, it would hover on like page three and page for like, that's where that would and that was just for doing a brand name search for this new business that I set up. But then when I got the syndication network, I hired one of our syndication network builders outside of his normal job duties to do this because he asked for some extra hours to make some extra money. So I hired him outside of that to do that for me. And you know, a couple of days later, I got this syndication network back and I think you delivered to me on a Friday and on Monday I went and just did another brand search and boom, that Click Funnels page was number one now, that was syndication networks. But the reason why I'm telling you that was because and that was without posting any content, guys no syndicating of any content. It's a Click Funnels page. I can't even syndicate content to the syndication network from Click Funnels. I did create a WordPress blog on a subdomain. But all I did was published one post and that was after it had already pushed the brand search to the Click Funnels page to the number one position for that brand search term. Now that said, I mentioned just a moment ago and the title tag, I had a couple of keywords. Now, this is not an Uber competitive market. But there are a few Pete players in this market that are savvy and doing SEO work as well as some PPC stuff. And the primary keywords that I'm targeting are in the title tag of that Click Funnels page, but the page itself isn't really optimized for those keywords. Well, I had the same builder that I hired to do to build a syndication network. I had him build a drive stack. He was actually in training to build drive stacks. And so I gave him that project for this particular new business to build a drive stack now that was about three weeks ago and now without doing any additional SEO work I think I've published one press release but just the drive stack alone has now pushed that page that Click Funnels page to page one and it bounces between the bottom of page one and the top of page two right now for the primary keyword phrases which is great and guys I'm telling you I haven't done anything differently so it does provide a push and I haven't even hit that drive stack with backlinks yet. So it does absolutely provide a push if you're in a significantly competitive market it's obviously going to require more plus sometimes depending on the level what market it is what keywords the competition level there's a lot of variables but sometimes they take longer to take effect and others with that said I'm gonna turn it over to Marco.
Bradley: There you go. That's hard. That's hard to pass that up, man. So I mean, that's how much Marco believes in the fact that they work because he'll give up a half an hour of his time to analyze what it is and provide suggestions that kind of stuff and, and I agree it's crazy because you know, sometimes when, you know I don't see the power of drive stacks on a regular basis and unless I'm monitoring it closely, in other words, like if I got a client and I get I just got, I picked up two new clients over the last month or so. And, you know, standard operating procedure syndication network, then a drive stack, but we're doing press releases. So we're kind of doing all these things all at once. But this new business that I started, I'm just doing things kind of slowly, because it's, you know, it's not, I'm just not hitting it really hard with everything. And I'm seeing the effects of the various things. As I said, the syndication network, made it pop to number one position for the brand search. I know that's not Uber competitive. It was a brand search phrase, you know, like a branded name. But it was interesting to see it jumped three pages just from a syndication network without publishing any content to it. Right. Then now the primary keywords that it's targeting, and it's not an SEO page, guys, it's just a landing, I'm driving traffic to it via other methods. I wasn't planning on it being an SEO type thing yet at least. And just having a drive stack bill in about three weeks time, two to three weeks time. I've actually seen a significant push that and I did a press release too. But again, it's interesting to see that kind of result from these things when you're monitoring it that closely. When you're doing them all the time for multiple clients and that kind of stuff. It's not something that I typically monitor especially when you're hitting up the assets with multiple multiple angles like multiple SEO angles, you know, it's kind of hard to at that point isolate What did what, but we know that it works otherwise we wouldn't keep using it. So
okay, cool. A grant says, oh, Grant seven hard time getting back into Facebook. Yeah, I don't know. What's going on with that grant. I'm not sure that that was caused from us specifically, but there was or from the chat app but there was we had the Facebook chat up I think we did it for two weeks and one week it just like caused a lot like some accounts to get locked mine too. And what's crazy is guys, this makes makes a good point to talk about why you shouldn't friend people on Facebook that you don't know that you don't really know because one of the things that they do is make you identify photos from friends, Facebook feeds and like who the people are in the photos and that was like I was like Oh shit, like I don't friend I get a ton of friend requests on Facebook that I just never accept and it's because if I don't know you I'm not going to accept your friend request for the most part.
And so you know, some in that verification process some of the photos were from people that apparently aren't on my friends' list that I really don't know. And so I was thinking Oh shit, I'm going to screw this up like I'm not gonna because you only get to fail I think two or three times before permanently or locks you out to where you have to you know another level of security to get back in anyway, I was fortunate enough to be able to get through but goes to show you don't friend people you don't know because it could keep you prevent you from getting access.
Let's see. Alright, what's next? 56k modem firing up. Oh, wow. Okay, Stoke jellyfish mastermind subgroup we're going to take over the world everyone should be extremely jealous. Okay, cool. That must be one of the mastermind subgroups who named a jellyfish
Adam: huh oh, that's why we just name it different animals and stuff each time to make them easy to deal with.
Adam: This is actually a cool point I want to tell people about this. I know we mentioned it before, but this is something we do for the mastermind members, you know, there's a lot of power in the network and in the group and being a part of a big group like that and having peers as well as access to us. But also there's power in meeting in a small group, you know, and so we put people to group if they want to, once a quarter we group people up in groups of like four to six so that they can meet up you know, give loose instructions, here's how it's a good way to do this. And then you really get that quick feedback, you can do hot seats, you can do all sorts of stuff from the people that you're in there with and then on a really more hesitate to use it but on a more intimate level if you will. So it's a really powerful way to even get more out of the mastermind.
Bradley: Yeah, I agree. It's about networking. So my Chris says to me Maybe I need to hit the folders instead of the G site. I would agree with that. We say, Marco.
Bradley: Very good guys. Any other questions? Otherwise, we can wrap it up early. Be a short Humpday Hangout.
Marco: And just for Anna. It's not that I try to swear. Whenever I talk. It's kind of just comes out. Must be the sailor in me. Sorry if I offend anyone. Fuck you anyway.
Bradley: That's right. That's right. Okay, well, it looks like unless we got something else we want to train about right now. Anybody? We can wrap it up a little bit early today.
Hernan: We're good.
Adam: get time to hit the trails.
Bradley: You're gonna go in the woods.
Adam: Yeah, gotta go for a run.
Bradley: You know, that's code for right.
Adam: running long distances.
Bradley: Yeah, no that's cool.
Oh, here comes I have a question, guys. Yeah, G is away, buddy. We're going to analyze your stuff tomorrow on the mastermind webinar. We're going to get into that deep so let's see what he says. I would love to talk about niches sometimes Anna says.
BJ after you do the link building Do you wait 21 days before doing another link code? I mean, I don't wait like a specific amount of time. I just wait to see what kind of results comes from it. And I don't usually stack link building campaigns three weeks apart like that, you know, usually, it's usually longer for me, like I'll hit something with links and you know, typically I'll have a Rank Tracker or something that's kind of monitoring that and I'll just check on it every you know, every few days or every couple of weeks and check to see what kind of push it is and but you remember I'm I don't just do link building. I think that's very, very powerful. But you know, we press releases and content marketing And oh, by the way, somebody asked questions about citations and I didn't answer that. So forgive me on that. Son guest says are local citations still relevant? GMB is dominating now. So how much does impact how much does it still impact rankings worth working through all the Citations Sources like Yelp Yelp page citations is still important if you've got a valid business address, I recommend building citations if it's a spam to business you know I for like lead gen stuff if you're getting, for example, would lead gen stuff if you're if you go out and get an actual physical address like a PO Box right? You use the street addressing option, then you can still get away with building citations because you can list the street address right the street address plus the number sign and in the box number, and that still works perfectly well. If you're buying a verified GMB, which is an essentially it's a spam address somewhere. I don't recommend building citations in that in that situation or that scenario and the reason why is because if it was an address that was pulled from somebody's house, which I hope people aren't building them that way, then you could literally be starting start getting marketing mail sent to somebody's house, a lot of the times those addresses are going to be spam from a commercial location. Once again, now those it'll start they'll start getting solicitation mail like physical mail with that company's name on it because now like if you start building citations and Yellow Pages and things like that you get put on the company gets put on mailing lists, and now direct mail spam direct mail solicitation offers will start getting sent there.
So again, for NAP stuff for area businesses. If it's a spam address, I don't recommend building citations. I'll do everything else but citations. But if you have a valid business address or you go get like a PO Box where you have a physical place to send mail that you can go collect, then yeah, absolutely, they're still effective, there's no doubt they're still effective. I still use them all the time for clients and everything else.
Marco: I would also add that if you can get hyper-local citations, those are really effective. And everywhere you're looking at the greater picture wherein the semantic where we all we always have to think the entity. It's just another way to validate your entity you. It's your presence in all of these places. It's placed where you've taken the time to go and get that citation to get it done properly. So that you know the more powerful ones like Yelp, those could become part of your same math. And it just adds validity to your entity and I got it guys we did the webinar. Not too long ago right for MGYB Syndication Academy where we talked about ads, I can't emphasize it enough how important it is. And that and one of the reasons why RYS Academy Reloaded the RYS text works so well, is because we focus on the entity right from the beginning. And we push power to the entity so that we go after what I call the end game.
Bradley: I suggest for those of you who didn't get a chance to see it, I mean, you should go, do we have it on MGYB? Do we have the URL, because I think people should go and watch that all day down to our YouTube channel, as well as on MGYB store on the webinar page now, which is that isn't that in the header in the navigation menu now?
Marco: where it should be? So just to drive this into people's head over and over whenever you start working on anything, even if it's fake, you have to make it look as real as possible to Google that there is a thing on the web, and that this thing has some kind of validity. And we talked about the different ways to validate your entity.
Bradley: So just to talk about since you know, we've got time, let's do this, we still got 20 minutes and it looks like some more questions popped up. But let's talk about this very specifically because you mentioned hyper-local citations. So what I want to do is kind of demonstrate here how to get how to find those. Now if you can hire a lot of citation building services that will do this now a marketer center is a pretty good spot to get some of these they'll it's still kind of automated if you want to. I mean, they have like, you know, lists that they build from. I think the best citation building service available is Logan x. There's no doubt it but it's more expensive. You're going to pay more for it, but it's a really good service because they build structured citations and unstructured citations, social citations, document citations, video citations, audio citations, all of those and then they hit all of them with backlinks. Like they automatically build backlinks to the citations as part of the service. They've got a monthly citation bonus service 150 bucks a month. For clients, it's an almost standard operating procedure for me, because it's just really good service. And if they do really, really well, they perform well as, but for hyperlocal citations, I'm just going to use this as an example. I think we're using plumber Fairfax, a couple of weeks ago for an example.
So one of the ways to get hyper-local citations is well one is to take a look at competitors. So like, let's say that John C Flood was, which is the plumber site that we're looking at was a client of mine, okay, or, you know, a lead gen project, whatever. Let's just say that that was the case. One of the things you can do is take a look at the top-ranked, and he's doing well organically at least. Maybe not so much in maps, but he's doing well for organics, but maybe look at FJ hooks plumbing is number one in maps and put that into a notepad file, right so I'm just going to say hooks, plumbing, Inc. And then I always use this is the way that you can do these guys use to have three data points for NAP to have it doesn't matter which two but I typically use the company name and the phone number. Okay? So in this case, it's going to be 783-591-1284.
Okay, do that for each one of the, you know, top five or so. So it would be FJ Hooks Long's Corporation, I think that's the example we were looking at a couple of weeks ago, calories, plumbing, home service doctors in my plumber, heating, cooling and electrical, right, so I would take the top five, I would copy down or jot into a notepad file or an Excel sheet or something like that Google Sheet, whatever their company name as it's listed in the NA and the Google Maps, right, and then also their phone number. That's typically the two data points that I'll pull, right and I'll copy that and I'll just go over to Google and I'll do a search. Okay. And then what I'll do this. And again, you can train to be able to do these guys is go through really, all you need to do is go through like the top two pages and copy the URLs or at least note, you don't need to copy the URLs for them, your competitors or whatever. But in this case, this is the top level, the one and number, the number one position in maps. So go through and take a look Manta, I'd put Manta in the spreadsheet. So if you got a spreadsheet or a notepad file doesn't matter, I just put Manta com, Yelp, yelp.com Okay, Facebook, we know that's a big one that's a branded profile. Anyways, MapQuest. checkbook.org which is interesting. I've not seen that before. Angie's List com white pages. So you guys get the idea. I would go through the top two for every single one of the the the top five listed maps, compete for your competitors that are listed in the top five in maps, right and if you're in the top five, then you know you're going to select the top five plus, you know besides yours.
So what I'm saying is if you're in the top five, then you know, you're going to select maybe one, two, and in four or five and six or something like that my point is to get the top five competitors compared to where you are, and then copy their name and their phone number down and just do a search a simple Google search. And again, he can have a VA do this and go figure out just make a list of the top level citation directories for those companies specific to that area. Does that make sense? That's one of the ways to get the best performing citations for your specific area.
When you go to Google and you use Google to determine that again, you can have a VA do it take the top five, do it search for their name and address or name and phone number, I'd use name and phone number and then just write down or, you know, put into a notepad file right in the Excel sheet, the business directory domains that are in the top two pages for each one of those five, right? And then you can, you know, you'll see commonalities, the ones that are common across all of those are across all five, which you'll see some of those, those are going to be your most powerful citation sources. So make sure you're listed on that, then to Marco's point to go hyperlocal, what you would want to do in this case, also you can go remember as I said, niche directories right so you could type into just do a Google search and say plumbing directory, right? And I misspelled plumbing but plumbing directory right and you go right through here and okay home advisor you know, I don't like home advisor but my zip plumbers. com that's a local plumbing directory, local, that's a national directory, but they have a plumbing category, obviously, the plumbing info.com right. So national plumbers directory.org so this is how you very easily just put in your service, your keyword, whatever directory and now you've got niche directories those are more powerful than just plain national directories right because they're topically relevant. All right.
Now lastly, for getting hyper-local citations in this case, we're going to say Fairfax County. Business Directory, right? Boom right there. Web NoVa chamber org business directory. That's Nova stands for Northern Virginia. Discover Fairfax, VA. com business directory, Fairfax County, EDA or Economic Development Authority, get your business listed there are your clients business listed there, right. A liable Fairfax county.gov. business right. Find out how you get listed on the Fairfax County. That's the official Fairfax County government website, guys. You can get listed there find out sometimes they're paid listings, who cares? It's it's not usually very expensive. And it's worth it because these are what Marco just mentioned are hyper-local citations. They're very powerful. And it doesn't just have to stop with business directories, you could put Fairfax County blogs, right? Because a lot of times you can actually get listed on Fairfax County blogs guys, it sometimes it just requires outreach to the, you know, the blog owners and maybe you have a press release written or something like that and you reach out. And again, you don't have to do this, you can hire people to do this and have them reach out to them because guys, these are all local blogs now talking about events and activities, and, you know, places to go, and products and services and all of that kind of stuff that is hyper-local, local to this area. Those types of links are so much more powerful than links that anybody can get from anywhere from like national directories if that makes sense. Because Google understands there's that geographic relationship. There's that geographic relevancy, and it's so much more powerful. And so again, these are all kinds of thing. I mean, there's a ton of them that just popped up right here, right that you could potentially get listed on Fairfax County, let's say newspaper that a lot of the times there's business directories there, and you could put online newspapers, things like that. But a lot of times there's classifieds. And you can get, those are powerful citations, you can run little classified online classified ads that will give you a link from those local newspaper and online newspapers. Again, very, very powerful.
Something like Topix. Topix that we used to hack these long years ago. If you guys are familiar with Topix, there's Topix.com Fairfax, that's like a forum. And there's, there's a local location forum, like there, this site is siloed. Well, and it's got forums specific to locations and you can actually kind of there's this requires like some social engineering stuff, but you can actually go in and start a thread and at like with, you know, a profile you want to use multiple profiles with multiple IPS but most of you have that kind of stuff anyway, but you can go in and register and ask a question like and start a new thread in the fair in this case, like the Fairfax County topics category. And there's a lot of traffic and traction in there, guys. And it's very, very powerful. And you can start a thread and say something like, Hey, I just moved into the area. And I really need a good plumber in Fairfax, work your keywords into the question, any recommendations, right and leave it like that and then login with another account that under a different IP that you may have answered, you may have commented on some other threads within that same category, the same Fairfax category, so that you're not just posting a link because a lot of times in these types of forums that if you if you're new and you post a link, your comment will get moderated out. So if you season one of those accounts to where you can, you know, you created some comments again, guys, you can hire all this stuff out you can train a staff member or VA to do this kind of stuff for you. But if you season an account that so that you get past that threshold to where you can drop a link, then you use that profile to go in and answer that question from the other profile Hey, I just moved in the area, I'm really looking for a good plumber in Fairfax. And now you drop. The first comment underneath that is, hey, here's a great plumber. It's what was the one that I was saying was my business FJ hooks plumbing, Inc, they're located in Fairfax, here's their phone number. Here's their website URL. Now that's a citation from a very powerful Local Business Forum. With it now being the first comment in a new thread and other people will come in and chime in on that thread. And that social engagement, other people commenting on that actually pushes more power into that particular thread and makes that citation even more powerful. That's very, very powerful. Most people don't do that because it's not as easy as just going and hiring a citation building service. It requires manual work, but if you want really good results, that's how you do it. I mean, and again, guys, you can train a VA to do this stuff. It's not something that you can find in a service online typically, but you can train a VA to do this stuff for you and you're going to get much better results. Okay. So hopefully that was helpful. See, we can do this on Hump Day hang out sometimes. That's usually what we do in our paid groups, right? Go into training.
Alright, Ji says, what if I iframe a piece of good content from my money site to an exact match domain? So you mean buying exact match domain and just put iframe a piece of content into that? I mean, sure, but you can do that with the G site. I'm not I mean, I don't know why you get more power out of doing it from an Amazon s3 hosted page or a G site than you would from bindings an exact match domain that has no inherent authority. Right? Because you can build keyword relevancy from putting content around the iframe is my point. So why not use something that has massive authority already, like a Google site, which is on the Google domain, or an Amazon s3 page write an HTML page that's ham hosted on Amazon bucket now you're you're you're siphoning authority from Amazon, right you can create the relevancy what you don't need the exact match keyword in the domain, you can create the relevancy from the content, the text around the iframe, and in the metadata and in the Jason structure, you know, the LD structured data, all of that. So,
Marco: Whenever someone asked me what if questions, I say, test it, and let me know what happens. Yeah. Because I can't tell you what if on every scenario that I haven't tried, but what I meant by when I was asking, what do you think about that, as I'm not sure that I would want to iframe a money site page into a domain? That was it. That was only set up as a spam GMB asset with just my money site. I framed and knew it as the landing page like in other words, I don't know if that could cause any negativity. If Google terminated that, you know, I would say on that if it's going to have a TMP and he's going to take the time to work on the entity power up the entity. It could work but I would as you said, I spend my resources my time and my money on just getting the power from a D site where you know, you can't harm your money site, because Google will just won't pass a penalty though. Yeah.
Bradley: Yeah, I agree. I'm not sure that I would do that I mark is right. I would recommend if you wanted to try that you'd have to test it. I can't we can't speculate on what would happen. I mean, I personally wouldn't want to do that because it doesn't to me. As I said, I'd rather I guys, you could even use a Google site is your domain, your website URL for GMB? You know, you can do that. There's I've never seen it not happen. You know what I'm saying? So why not just use that right? You can create a Google site and flesh that out a bit and make that the website of the GMB. That makes sense. You still want to create the GSB website and put that in the appointment URL. You know, you can that's what I've been doing. So he says, What can I expect Google picks up the content starts to rank for the exact match again. I don't know how that would treat this G. We haven't tested that. And so, you know, it would be speculation so I don't know. I honestly don't know. So,
Dan, the man says, or Dan Damman How quickly can you last new videos to a channel connected to a four ring IFTTT network so as to not go too fast and destroy the syndication network effective. I mean, you can live stream whenever if you're talking about, you know, publishing multiple, like, for example, just using it as a spam channel where but it uses live streams as opposed to uploading.
If it's a seasoned network, it can you what I mean by that is if it's got some age to it, and you've slowly, you know, started posting to it, and then slowly ramped up the speed with which you post with the velocity, whatever you want to call it, the frequency of posting, then a lot of times it'll it'll be okay. But if it's a new network, a newer network, and you start posting, you know, multiple times per day. Especially if they're spammy videos with similar content, that kind of stuff, then you know, you can get a lot of your network properties terminated. So that's why, as I said, I, you know, in my opinion, you're better off doing that, if you're going to do that kind of stuff that you're, you know, you don't.
A lot of times you don't need syndication networks, if you're going to do that type of, I don't know what kind of a strategy you're asking about specifically, I'm only making assumptions here. But a lot of times you can get results with YouTube spam stuff, by just using multiple accounts, YouTube accounts that don't even need syndication networks. Why not? If I'm going to take the time to build or you know, purchase, you know, spend money or whatever on syndication networks for YouTube syndication stuff, I'm going to try to keep them around not spam them to death. Right. And so typically, the videos are going to be a better quality it's not going to be the same video just spun. You know what I mean? Like to change the video encoding and that stuff and continually repeating publishing the same damn video. I've seen that too much. Guys, and that shit used to work years ago. And I guess you can still get some results from that. But most people, you know, don't react to those kinds of videos. And honestly, a lot of the syndication network sites and stuff will actually terminate, because they detect those as spam. So I would recommend if you're going to take the time to build networks out or purchase networks, which is what we recommend, and certainly, that you would try to keep your channel and the content good enough to where that's not a date, you're not in danger of doing that. So if you're actually doing real live streams, then I wouldn't worry about it at all, because they're all going to be real and unique. They're not spammy. But if you're just using live streams, and you're basically mass, you know, duplicating a video and constantly re-streaming it to a channel or uploading it to a channel that's connected to syndication networks, you're in danger of getting those terminated. Okay, especially if it's brand new.
We got more questions and we can answer now so we almost shut it down. And at the very last minute when we almost took it from you guys, you posted a shit ton questions that now can't be answered.
So next time post early guys. We're going to wrap it up. I've gotta run guys. My daughter's got a softball game tonight I gotta go to so unfortunately, that's gonna be it for today. So thanks for your extra engagement. We needed it guys we appreciate that. Thanks, guys for sticking around.
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