In episode 155 of the weekly Hump Day Hangouts by Semantic Mastery, one viewer asked how one should provide virtual assistants with access to Live Rank Sniper and PSP.
The exact question was:
Hey guys, I've realized that the tasks I perform in tools like LRS and PSP can be performed by VAs too. How do you guys have your VAs access them? Do you buy another copy? Or do you make them buy it? Am I missing something?
In episode 154 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked how to use Live Rank Sniper stream for a rank and rent video campaign.
The exact question was:
I acted on the R&R video advice you guys gave me and I've used Live Rank Sniper to get a live stream ranked on page 2 for “”dui lawyer city”” and “”divorce lawyer city””. I also made a separate channel for the videos themselves, with a YT syndication network. I think it's a good start, but now should I delete that stream from LRS and upload a video to my new channel, or just upload a video to LRS and give it some embeds from Serpspace?
In episode 131 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked if a video poked by Live Rank Sniper video should be streamed to a money channel or persona channel.
The exact question was:
When using Live Rank Sniper it is my understanding that the thumbnail, title, description, etc are placeholders. It is also my understanding that I should use a persona Youtube channel to poke. So when streaming the video I want to rank into the position held by the poking placeholder can I safely stream to a money channel or a channel I value highly or do I have to stream it to a persona channel? Do I accomplish this by just streaming it right through LRS or do you recommend some other method of streaming?
Adam: All right. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Hump Day Hangouts, episode 129. This is the 26th of April 2017, and we've got part of the group, here. I think two, fifths of us are out traveling or flying, today. Myself, Bradley, and Marco ares here. Instead of doing the Brady Bunch up and down, I'll just look over this way, and Bradley how are you doing, man?
Bradley: Good, man. I'm happy to be here. It's a beautiful spring day. Got lots of good questions, already, and just looking forward to doing it.
Adam: That's nice. Marco, how's the weather, for you?
Marco: It's sunny in the mornings and it rains every afternoon, now for three, four hours and then it goes away until the next day, it's typical, but still warm.
Marco: As I said, it's either warm and raining, or warm and sunny.
Adam: Nice. I couldn't help, I was looking at my background, if Wayne is watching, there's Nike headphone inception going on, here, there's the exact same pair behind me. Anyways. On to more important announcements, not about my headphones. I wanted to let everybody know, hopefully by the end of this Hump Day Hangout we'll have a link for you guys, we're busy getting it setup, because we just confirmed with Pavel, and I just missed out on the topic, real quick, because I was busy doing the background stuff. Bradley, do you want to tell them what the webinar this Monday is going to be about?
Bradley: Site Whizz. Apparently, he's got another application that he built specifically for PBN stuff, but I can tell you I'm super freaking impressed with Rank Whizz and Pavel from the webinar that we had this week, on Monday. I mean, the guy really knows his stuff, and you can tell, and because of that the tool is super powerful, and from some of our Mastermind members that were commenting on a thread in the Mastermind about it, they were saying that it is indeed a very powerful tool. There is a bit of a learning curve, though. My point is after going through the training webinar with Pavel on Monday, and seeing what Rank Whizz does, and seeing how so many other tools that are kind of like duct taped together, you know, everybody has different tools to do different things, so many of that can be consolidated under one dashboard.
It makes sense to take the time to learn it, now honestly, I'll be 100% transparent, I don't run tools like that. I've hired people years ago to start doing that for me, because it's not something I had any desire to do. We're probably going to be and in fact, I've already talked to our link building manager, Deady, about hiring, or signing somebody to us to run Rank Whizz, specifically, because of some of the incredible stuff it can do. So, anyways, that said, if you haven't seen that webinar go watch it and then the Site Whizz webinar, I can only imagine is equally as impressive, because of how much development, and care, and thought that Pavel put into the Rank Whizz. I'm really super excited to see what it does, because I'm clueless as to what Site Whizz does, so this is going to be 100% new to me, as well, but I'm really anxious to see it, so I encourage you guys to sign up or register for the webinar on Monday and attend.
Marco: What really drew my attention was that he actually talked about what I call the three elements, or the three components that a link must have to be considered good. Right? Which is relevancy, activity, and trust and authority, not necessarily in that order, but I mean he's one of the few people that I know, Mike Pierce is another, and you guys know that to me he is by far the best technical SEO, anywhere, but for someone else to talk about it, and to know, and to understand the concepts, to me, that says it all, because he actually understands where Google is and the W3C are trying to take the semantic web, where everything is headed. So, if he understands what the future is then he's already planning ahead, which is where everybody should be going. You never want to be reactive. Right? To search engines and upgrades. You always want to be proactive-
Marco: You always want to be in there, and you want to be ahead of the curve.
Bradley: Yeah. What's next, Adam?
Adam: I believe, you guys have a webinar, you guys, I believe we, hopefully we'll be there live, you guys are doing some structured data awesomeness. Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe that is May 8th. Right? The following Monday.
Bradley: Yes. At three o'clock, I think.
Marco: May 8th, at three o'clock. Yeah. It's not ready, yet, nor is the signup ready, I mean, I'm still working through a whole bunch of information that I had to go through. Every time I think I have it, I keep discovering something new, so I it's new for me, so trying to explain it in layman's terms, so that everyone can understand. I know we have a lot of high level people, but I like to talk one level down for the person that's just starting out, for the person that's trying to grasp the concepts. I have to really understand what it is that they're saying, so that I can try to explain it. All right. If you cannot explain it, you don't know shit. That's where I go. That's where I am. I know that Bradley is co-presenter, so he's going to be giving us his insights, and how he sees structured data working. He does so much local, so he knows about all that and how it works. We're hoping to give a really good one, two presentation on structured data.
Bradley: Yeah. I agree. It's going to be awesome.
Adam: Yeah. Everybody, we'll get that out to you. As soon as we do, obviously, it takes a little time to set up the webinars and do all that, so once we get that, we'll send out an email and let everybody know about it. Other than that, though, I think that's good on announcements. You guys got anything, else?
Bradley: No. I was about to post on the event page for Ken Roberts. Hey, Ken, we did, we answered your question. Actually, Marco and I got together on Monday to consult about your question, and so it's been answered in the Facebook group. The Syndication Academy Facebook group, I'm about to drop the link to that particular post, apparently Semantic Mastery's doesn't have you in a circle, Ken, because I cannot tag you, but anyways I'll drop the link, or go back to The Syndication Academy, Ken, in the group and you should see the answers to your questions from last week, because we did end up, Marco and I scheduled time on Monday just so that we could talk about your question. Anyways.
Adam: One more thing, real quick, I was going to say, we just got the webinar setup, so I'm going to post the link in if you want to check out this awesome webinar, this Monday, with Sit whizz info, get signed up, and we'll email out about that, but I wanted to make sure everybody has a chance today to hop on that.
Bradley: All right. Ken, I just posted, he's here watching, I just posted the link to that Facebook post. If you're not in Syndication Academy guys, you won't be able to see it, but Ken will, because he's there. All right. I'm going to grab the screen and we're going to get into it. You guys cool with that?
Adam: Yeah. Let's do this.
Bradley: Yeah. Let's do it. Can you guys see me okay?
Adam: Yes. We can.
Bradley: All right. Very good. Let's scroll down to the bottom. Got lots of good questions, already, so this is awesome. All right. Aussie is up first, “Hey, all. I got a website that have a tier one,” oh, couple things we didn't mention, number one, if you guys are new to Hump Day Hangouts, there's a couple things that we probably need to just make a note of this, Adam, every day, or every single week.
Adam: Yeah. I just did, and I didn't want to stop you, I'm actually getting something to paste in there.
Bradley: Okay. Cool. I was going to say, if you guys aren't aware of where to get Syndication Academy you can go to syndication.academy, again, that's syndication.academy. That's where a lot of the questions that we get on Hump Day Hangouts come from that training and that methodology, so that's a lot of the times what we're talking about, if you're unfamiliar with that. Also, a lot of questions that we get, regularly, guys can be answered in our knowledge base, just so you know, and that is at support.semanticmastery.com, again, support.semanticmastery.com is our support portal, I guess, and there is a knowledge base and FAQ's for various products that we have right there on that support site. I just wanted to kind of point you guys to that, in case you were unaware of those resources. All right. Anyways. Aussie says-
Marco: Before you move on, can I just mention something, so that we have it down.
Marco: When we get new people, we get the same question a lot of times over and over, and over, and I understand that we have new people coming in that will ask the same questions. Please, if you are new don't think that we're treating you like you are new, like you're dumb, like you don't know what you're talking about, this forum, or what we do on Hump Day Hangouts is just for that, we don't want you to feel bad. Please, ask your questions, if we say to go to whatever source, it's because the answer is there. It's been explained, and that's the best way to start, if after that, after you've gone and looked at the resources, you still have a question, you're welcome to come back and ask us a more in depth question or to clarify, but please just keep asking the questions and we'll do the best we can to answer them.
Bradley: Yeah. Occasionally, if I get a question that's been asked 1300 times, I do get a tad bit annoyed, but don't misinterpret that as me being annoyed with the person asking the question, I'm annoyed with the question, not the person asking the question and I'm working on that, guys. I recognized that, that can come across as shitty, and so I'm working on that, and I apologize for that, but I just want you to know that certainly guys that's what this is for. Hump Day Hangouts is for people to come and ask questions, new, or experienced alike, it makes no difference. Please, feel free to ask questions, here. Okay?
Decreasing Rankings Of A T1 Branded Ring Powered By PBNs
Now, hold on a minute, let me rephrase this, if it's just a tier one branded ring, I've never seen any issues, whatsoever. I've not experienced this. Now, with multiple syndication networks connected to a website, for blog syndication, and this is precisely why I talk about, throughout the training, and throughout so many Hump Day Hangouts, about not connecting multiple syndication rings to a blog, for blog syndication, because I have had, I've gotten slapped from that before and it's because of unnatural link profile, I've been slapped various ways. I've had algorithmic slaps, and I've had manual penalties, as well. Both, from connecting too many syndication networks to a blog, but that is precisely why we talk about primarily just using a tier one branded ring. If you're going to use tier two, and I know Aussie, you're not saying that you use tier two, but I'm just explaining this for the benefit of other people, as well, in part for why I don't use multiple or tiered rings for blog syndication.
If you're going to be using tiered rings, though, however, or syndication networks you want to add additional related content feeds, or sources, triggers, into the second tier networks to try to mask or hide footprint as much as possible. Remember, you're not trying to hide a footprint on your branded ring, you're trying to claim it. You're trying to announce to the world that this is you on all these different locations, or this is your brand, or whatever. I've never experienced that, what you're talking about here from a branded ring, but that's also because, and Aussie, I don't know what kind of content you're publishing from your blog, so what I'm saying is if you're publishing content from your main blog that's syndicating to your ring, and you're doing automated content, or positing maybe too frequently, or I don't know what could cause that, but I know that there could be content issues that are causing that problem, as well, and it's not necessarily from the syndication network. There's some variables that I'm unaware of, here, from this one line, or two little sentences here isn't enough detail for me to be able to make an educated guess as to what the problem is, other than it may be a content issue with what you're posting from the blog, if that makes sense. Marco, or Adam, I guess, have you guys ever had any experience with this?
Marco: I'm looking at this and he says he has RYS starter, now, what he could be experiencing is the Google dance, we covered this before, and I just dropped the link at the top, so that he can go and take a look at it, I don't know how long it's been since he did this. Sometimes they disappear. It doesn't mean that you got Google slapped. It just means that they're dancing, and they'll eventually come back, you wait 21 days until the Google dance has cleared, and then you go take a look at your ranking. You cannot SERP watch or you'll drive yourself nuts-
Marco: Watching it go up and down. It goes up and down, up and down. Then, eventually after that period it's like a probationary period. Right? Where if you go and do anything, they extend it to, I think it's either 60 or 80 days and if you do anything within that period then you can get permanently sand boxed, so I would say just relax, let it sit, let it stew, and see if it starts coming back. In the meantime, he can be looking at other things, whether he's doing multiple posting, whether he has a multi tiered ring, which is not necessary for most keywords, but I see that, and if he did that, and if he powered it up, meaning if he built links to tier one and RYS it will dance, but it will come back and it will come back better than ever, if you leave it alone for the period of time that the Google dance requires, it's riding the patent.
Bradley: Yeah. See, Aussie, I've got, I mean, I literally have websites and some clients, some are my own that I've had syndication networks around since 2012, and literally have thousands of links from WordPress and thousands of links from blog spot, or blogger, and Tumblr, and that kind of thing in search console, and never once have they ever been slapped. I cannot see it having anything to with the syndication network, unless there was a problem with the content, again, that you're publishing. If it scrapped content, spun content, stuff like that, that could cause problems, and there's no question.
Also, it could be if you're using tiered networks, like I said, and you're not masking or hiding your footprint, properly. That could also cause issues, but again, if you want to contact somebody, you could reach out to us in support, and if you're in the Mastermind, we can provide, of course, support within the Mastermind, but if not it might, you might have to schedule with someone on one consulting time, but you can always send in a support ticket and propose what it is you need help with and we can figure out what the best course of action for you would be. Okay?
Proxies When Creating Branded IFTTT Networks For Clients
All right. David's up, he says, “Same question as last week, tech glitch pause, if I'm creating branded IFTTT networks for clients, do I need proxies?” Okay, David. No. Yes and no. No, if you are limiting how many accounts you create. Let's put it this way, when you go to start creating an account, or a network, you're going to create a profile in a new Google account, and then you're going to use that Google account to create the profile or the accounts on all the other network sites, network properties, Tumblr, WordPress, Gravatar, all that stuff. Right? That's basically one account set, so as long as you're only doing one or no more than two account sets in any 24 hour period, then you should be okay.
However, if you're building for clients, I recommend having a minimum of five or just a handful, I mean, typically I always just start off with five proxies, dedicated proxies. The reason why is, because if you're building them, which by the way, David, you shouldn't be building them, honestly, you really shouldn't be, but if you plan on doing it anyways, because you can outsource this kind of work, man, for a hell of a lot less than what your time is worth, I can tell you that. But, if you are planning on doing it, anyways, then I recommend just getting five dedicated proxies it will cost you like 10 bucks a month, man. Then, that way you have basically cycled through the proxies. In other words, if on Monday you start to create one account set with proxy number one, then on Tuesday create your next account set proxy number two, and by the time you get to Saturday, you cycle back up to proxy number one. Does that make sense?
Just, in other words, that way you're spreading out new account sets per IP, so that you're not, if you use just your own IP, and you're creating a new account set, every day, at some point, I don't know what the threshold is, but at some point, you're probably going to have your IP flagged, by if not Google, by some of the other web two properties. I recommend that you always use, you know, you can use a VPN. I particularly don't like to use VPN's, because those are shared IP's, even though a lot of them have big pools of IP's now, I still don't like to use them, because they're shared. I prefer dedicated proxies, because then I know they're clean. Okay. Again, I highly recommend that you're going to do it, and also, David, if you're going to be building networks and using proxies then to make your life a hell a lot easier I recommend that you pick up Browseo. Right now, Browseo, now has a monthly option it's like 37 bucks a month.
The amount of headache that it will save you to be able to use Browseo and have multiple browsing sessions open using different proxies for different profiles and all that kind of stuff, the speed with which you're able to accomplish your tasks by having that ability, or that function available is unbelievable. Right? It's amazing. I've got Browseo open right now. I mean, I got it open all the time, now, because it's just so freaking amazing. So, I highly recommend that you use that, as well, it's going to make you a lot more efficient. As I mentioned, before, I certainly recommend, David, that you only build a few networks to get the hang of it and then outsource it. You can buy them from us, or you can hire your own virtual assistant, and put them through the training, and have them build so that you have an in house builder, that's going to be your best option, you'll make the most money that way, if you create your own in house builder, or excuse me, train your own in house builder. All right.
Marco: No. I totally agree. No. We usually order IFTTT and RYS as soon as we get-
Bradley: The network back.
Marco: The verification from Google.
Marco: As soon as the verification, then we have that NAP, the way that it's set in Google, that's how it's going everywhere else that we have it. I mean, I trained Justin, and I continuously go back and forth with him, he's our RYS VA, he knows exactly what to do, how to hook everything up, so that you guys don't have to do it. If you want to go through it, then the place for the training is RYS Academy. Otherwise, you're left guessing on how everything is done.
Bradley: Yeah. All right. Hopefully, that helps, David. Yeah. The same order that whenever, I agree with Marco, if it's going to be for a local business, it has an NAP, you're going to want to wait until you have a verified address, and you probably already do, but if not, if it's a new listing, a new business, then yeah, wait until you get the Google My Business page verified, so that then you have the NAP exactly as it's listed in Google. I totally agree with that. Typically, what I'll do with a new property is order the network, build the site, while the network is being built.
My curator, somebody from, one of my curators, will end up creating content for me like having at least a minimum of three curated posts ready to go, so that when the site is built, and the network has been connected, then I go in and publish those three posts. I'll drip them out, over a course of a week, or so, and then from there I'll order the, excuse me, the drive stack, and then I'll order a press release, and then I'll order the first batch of citations. That's pretty much the exact same process that I go through for every single new site that I launch, or even a site that's an existing site and I'm taking a new client or something like that, that's the same process I have to go through, is still sitting up the network first, and having content produced while the network is being set up and all that kind of stuff. It's the exact same timeline that I always use. Just because it works. There's no reason, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Adam: Description about what the video is about, is it actually the video description?
Bradley: It's a transcript and a description. Probably like a summary, maybe, is what the description is.
Marco: I mean, is the description being taken word for word from the video description?
Bradley: You mean, from the video description in YouTube?
Bradley: Yeah. That can cause problems, Ryan. Good point, Marco. I don't know that, that's the case, Ryan, but if you are, here's the thing, though, if you're adding the transcription to the post, then that should make it unique enough, I mean, again, this is just speculative, but my experience with having video pages de-indexed, and I'm not talking about the videos themselves, I'm assuming the YouTube videos are still indexed, but the video pages on your site are being de-indexed, or falling out of the index, that doesn't necessarily mean that they've been de-indexed. Right? De-indexed connotes like a penalty, but falling out of the index doesn't necessarily, like that's just a Google dance. Right? My point, Ryan, what I'm trying to get at is whenever I was doing a lot of video syndication networks, what I used to call broadcasting networks, which is I'd have self hosted WordPress sites with IFTTT syndication networks around those sites, and then when I would publish a video to a YouTube channel I'd have YouTube connected as a trigger to self hosted WordPress sites. I used to use a plugin to do that, but then I just switched it over to using IFTTT, and YouTube to WordPress. You can do that for self hosted sites, by the way.
Anyways, whenever I would have the applet set up at the time, they were called recipes, but the applets within the description, we always just talk about pasting the embed code, and a link to the video, and you can either do a naked URL, or an anchored text URL to the actual YouTube video itself, and then a link back to the channel and if that's why our applets are set up the way that they are, because when I had those video broadcasting networks and I was auto syndicating videos to them any time I uploaded a video to a channel, any of those WordPress sites, those self hosted WordPress sites that imported the description, so remember that's a token, a token inside of IFTTT that you can add, or what they call an ingredient.
You can add the description ingredient. Every single one of the sites that I had auto syndicated videos to that imported the description got de-indexed. Every single one of them. All the sites that I had didn't import the video description from YouTube, didn't get de-indexed. That very well could be it, is if you are importing, although, like I said, at least without testing this I would think that if you had the transcription in the blog post, but not in the video description on YouTube, that, that would make that blog post unique enough that it wouldn't be de-indexed, but maybe it is causing an issue. That's the only thing I can think of at this time. I mean, what other ideas could there be, Marco, anything else?
Marco: I would use video schema.
Bradley: You could do that.
Marco: I would use it totally, just to solidify it at the entity level. Right? At the coding level. I'd post the URL to Sistrix, which is really, really good about giving you some great video markup for rich snippets, and that might help. Everything tried first, get rid of the description, see what happens, and then mark them up.
Marco: Use the schema generator that I posted and see what happens. Come back and let us know.
Bradley: Yeah. That could help. Wrapping those videos and video object markup could probably help, too, so let us know, Ryan, how that goes. Then, also, again, I'm curious to find out if that's what you're doing is importing the video descriptions, too, because if so, what I would recommend is omitting the video descriptions if it's the same as what they are on YouTube, and then just using the transcription and that's it.
Live Rank Sniper Vs Tube Rocket (Rocket Video Ranker Pro)
He says, “I understand that Tube Rocket can make the videos unique, but if possible, how would I get them into the spots created by LRS, since it requires live stream, not just a video upload?” Okay. First of all, Kurt, yes, you can use Live Rank Sniper to stream a video into the scheduled live event, because those are essentially just place holders. Right? The schedule of live events are just place holders, however, the problem, and it's not a problem, but the drawback of using Live Rank Sniper to stream to those scheduled live events is that it's a slow process, because you have to open up Live Rank Sniper, it's only a couple of clicks of a mouse, guys, it's not like it's difficult, it's very simple to do, but it's a slow process, because you have to allow the software to start the stream.
You click the upload or whatever, you click the tab, and then you go navigate to the file on your hard drive, click it, and then you tell it to start streaming, and it basically, you just wait for it to go through the process of firing up the live stream, starts to stream it, and then it closes it down, and all that. So, it's a manual process, and my point was if you've poked a 100 keywords and you got 40 of them that are ranking on page one and/or page two, and you want to go upload, that's a long time. A lot of time that you're going to have to sit there and click the mouse a few times to get it to stream, it's just going to take you a ton of time, Kurt. You can absolutely do that, there's no problem. It's just personally, it's not efficient, for me, so I wouldn't recommend doing that. You know, there is, Peter Drew, excuse me, I was drawing a blank, Peter Drew has Hangout Millionaire, which would integrate very, very well with Live Rank Sniper, because they're from the same developer. They have the same interface and that kind of stuff.
I'm fairly certain that Hangout Millionaire can actually stream into those scheduled live events. That will automate the process, so that you don't have to manually start every single stream. If you want to use the pre-scheduled events that are already ranking, then I would recommend that you upgrade to Hangout Millionaire, and use that. Okay? That's the reason why I say that is because you've already got the place holders in place, and I'm fairly sure that Hangout Millionaire is able to stream to those scheduled live events, but you might have to check with Peter Drew and support first prior to signing up for that. Where Rocket Video Ranker, Tube Authority Rocket, they're one and the same, really, shines is that it basically uploads videos and it uses that very unique process where it sets everything to private, and then you go in and turn them all public at the same time, and it just seems to work.
Again, I don't know why it works, but it works. So, as long as it's working, it's something that can be exploited, and I've used it a lot, as well. Okay. But, no, you cannot use Rocket Video Ranker to stream to scheduled live events, it doesn't work that way. Rocket Video Ranker is strictly an upload application, I mean it makes it so much faster and efficient to upload a bunch of videos all at one time to the same channel. But, there's a limit to that, by the way, too. I ran into a couple of issues throughout the case study where I made a mistake with a batch of 30 uploads and I had to go in and delete them all, and then I went back and uploaded, again, to the same channel, and it denied me, it said, you've uploaded too many videos, and you must wait 24 hours before uploading anymore, or something like that, so just keep that in mind. Again, it's a different animal. They can accomplish similar things, but remember Live Rank Sniper was specifically a keyword poking tool, I mean that's what it was advertised as. Right? It's a keyword poking tool. Yes, you can steam to pre-scheduled events, but it's not really designed to do that, efficiently, in other words. Okay?
All right. Next, he says, “Also, I made a spintax with keywords and geotargeting for the LRS pokes, some of them landed on page one and two, and in the videos page, this was done without the long lat settings in Live Rank Sniper, if I needed to do long lat in LRS, would this require one poke per keyword?” Yes. Well, it would be one poke per location, Kurt. I did this same thing Kurt, in other words, when I was running my, I was basically targeting one keyword in multiple locations, so I didn't use the geo coordinate setting, either. I left that blank, but if you want to target multiple keywords in one location, then you could use the geo, you know, the geo settings, excuse me, because then it's all the same location, but I did the same thing, which you're asking about, here, no, I just omitted that. Okay. “Or, could I just use the long lat for Chicago and geo target all the smaller communities and metros in Chicago with the keywords spintex with the same result and effectiveness?”
I don't know, Kurt, I haven't test that, personally, I would not want to use Chicago coordinates for suburbs around Chicago, because those suburbs each have their own coordinates. Right? Every point, anywhere at all geographically has its on coordinate. Right? So, even if you move a 100 yards to the right or the left, or north, south, east, west, it doesn't matter my point is it still got a unique coordinate, so if you're assigning a Chicago coordinate, excuse me, to all of the other locations that you're targeting, then you'd be giving mixed messages to Google. I haven't tested that, so I don't know whether it would work or not, but to be honest with you it seems logical to me that it would cause problems. So, I would recommend just omitting the geocoordinates from those campaigns, unless you're targeting one location.
Using Same Persona Rings To Multiple Products
All right. Alexander is up, “Should I use the same persona rings to multiple products? For example, the same 10% of the rings for two or more unrelated projects.” I don't recommend that. I mean, you can to a point, Alexander, I would still try to keep them somewhat related. Here's the thing guys, like for second tier networks, which are basically persona based networks, especially for like YouTube syndication's, stuff like that, things can be a bit more general, but remember theming is really, really important. I'll let Marco comment on this, but guys theming and relevancy is critical, now, and it's only becoming more and more critical, so I'd recommend not spamming up some second tier networks, or persona based networks with a whole bunch of unrelated stuff. Try to keep it somewhat ballpark, somewhat in the same ballpark, because you're going to get more power, and more authority built from any of those links, embeds, whatever, from those networks if they're themed correctly. Marco, you got a comment for that?
Marco: No. I agree. We go back to what I mentioned in the beginning, which is the three components of a link. Right?
Marco: Relevancy, activity on the link, trust and authority. If those three things are present then you have a great link, if you omit one of those then the link becomes not so great, what overcomes that is where the link is coming from, like if you can get that awesome boost from one of these super powerful websites where you get that link that just pops you to number one, then that'll override the relevancy activity, but it has to be powerful, it cannot just be any old link, or it could have decent metrics and you would have to boost it, so that you power up the metrics to override the relevancy factor, but you still need all the other three components. I mean, I could talk about this all day, but we're still going to come back to relevancy, activity, trust and authority, that's what you need on a link. If you don't have that, and most, again, most PBN's are just there to provide a link, if you are doing just that then you're better off going and renting. You know how you can go and rent from what used to be a PR7, or a PR8 you better off doing that, you can still do that and get a lot of bang for your money.
Multiple Google Sites For Different Personas
Bradley: Yeah. All right. Bacon is up, he says, “I have a question about Google sites, if you were to create multiple sites, do you need to do each under a different persona, since it is a Google property?” No. It's not necessary. You can do it all, I mean, you can create multiple Google sites under one profile. It's fine. Just keep in mind, that if you're doing some nasty stuff with them, with any one of them, or a combination of them, you stand a chance of getting that account slapped and potentially terminated, and if you have multiple Google sites in that one account, and that account gets slapped, or terminated, then it could end up, you end up losing all of them. Again, I always talk about mitigating risk, guys, specifically because I just don't want to have one where Google can come in and terminate one account, and I lose multiple digital assets, or multiple businesses, so to speak. Right?
That's why I always try to separate things by different Google profiles, because then I can always connect, and add as a manager, and you can do that in Google sites, too, you can add a manager. So, you can add, you can create, let's say you're going to create 10 Google sites, have 10 different profiles, each owning its own Google site, and then you can connect your main profile, you, or Bacon, as a manager to all of them, so that you can manage all of them underneath one account. But, if anyone of those accounts were to get terminated, it will only affect the one Google site that was owned by that profile account. If that makes sense.
Marco: Let me read through that, again. There's a lot of stuff that I just cannot give away in this forum. I cannot give that away. Yeah. Content matters, whether it's on the page, or somewhere else, makes a big difference. Relevance, right? You can push relevancy, because it will bleed through to the source, whatever you have on the page, the bot will come in read it, it will drop into the iframe, so to speak, it will drop into the hole, go down to see where the source is, and all of that, that the bot is holding, wherever it's holding the information, follows through, so it helps. It helps more if it's somewhere else. That's as far as I'm going to take it.
Bradley: Yeah. I mean, I haven't done a lot of map embedding stuff, so I don't have a lot of experience with testing, Ken, on that, but I would agree that I would probably be, because the problem with YouTube with importing the description, is what I discussed earlier. Right? Is that every single time, or every property that I have while I was importing the descriptions would get de-indexed. That's why I stopped doing it, but for maps that's different. Again, I would want to try to put some content on the page, and then test it, but I don't know, because I haven't done it. I'd just follow Marco's advice.
In other words, when I rent a mailbox, I don't just rent it, or excuse me, a PO box, I don't just rent it long enough to get the postcard, and then let it expire. I keep renewing them. I've got dozens of PO boxes and I pay for them every single year, and the reason I do that is because in the event that I ever have to reverify the business, I'll have access to that location, that address. The reason I know how to do that is because that's only happened twice to me in my entire career. Okay. But, one of the times that it happened it was a UPS mailbox for one of my tree service lead gen sites, and the UPS mailbox was like $36.00 a month, it was freaking ridiculous, and so I let that mailbox go, because I thought I'll never need it again, and it's too damn expensive. Sure enough, I got a reverification, I was required to reverify via mail, snail mail, and I didn't have access to that location, so I lost that maps listing, because I didn't have access to it.
So, that was a painful lesson for me, because that was a profitable, it generated quite a bit of revenue, that particular site, so anyways, my point is that ever since that time, first of all I stopped using UPS mailboxes, the UPS stores and stuff, I stopped using those and I went to PO boxes, and I keep them renewed. Now, with that said, you know, if you've been trying to tell a client something for two years, now, look, I understand, because you are kind of black hatting the maps listing. I've had clients that have been resistive to that, as well, so you know, I don't know what else you can do other than tell them why it would benefit them to do that, and try to get them to do it the correct way, otherwise I don't know what else you could do to tell them that. Short of you going out and getting the mailbox yourself, which I don't recommend doing, but if it's a client that's paying you a good amount of money, look, I pay anywhere between $64.00 and $128.00 per year, per PO box.
It just depends on the population density of the area that I'm renting the box in. Right? The more populated it is, the more expensive it's going to be, but I don't have a single mailbox out of dozens of them that cost me more than, I think, 128, actually, that may not be true, it might be as much as 164, or 168 a year, or something like that. It's still relatively inexpensive, so again I don't recommend going out and buying a mailbox for a client unless there's enough revenue in it for you, to make it worth your while. Here's the thing, you might end up, there's always the opportunity that you could use, you know, create other digital assets in that same area, and use that, you could try using that same mailbox, but I wouldn't do that.
I would have a separate mailbox specifically for this client, and again, if it's not something that you want to approach the client about, I wouldn't mind approaching the client, just say, look, you got a UPS mailbox, those don't work and here's the reason why, recommend using a USPS box, it's cheaper, and they're still working, right now, and it's going to benefit your business, and I recommend that you do it. That's what I would say, otherwise you could do it on your own. Again, I don't recommend doing that, Don, but if you're making enough revenue from that client, it's a nominal small price to pay to be able to get them results. Okay.
Differences Between FCS, RankerX, SEO Autopilot and Rankwyz
I cannot answer you Kay, honestly, because I just don't know. I don't use any of those tools. I can tell you that I'm super, super, super impressed with Rank Whizz, and Pavel from the webinar that we did on Monday. I think if you were going to invest, and again, this is only based upon, not from using any of the tools, myself, but just based upon what I know and from what I saw on Monday with Rank Whizz is it seems like it can do everything that I could ever want a link building tool to do, in a very unique way. In fact, the content mill function of Rank Whizz is amazing, because they don't scrape content based upon keywords, they do it based upon topics, which is the very first time I've ever heard of a link building tool do that, which speaks directly to RankBrain and Hummingbird. Right?
The semantic web algorithms, or the semantic web filters, or whatever, layers to the algorithm. My point is, that after going through that webinar, if you haven't seen it yet, Kay, go through it, that we did with Pavel. I think it was two hours long, but it's super, super powerful and if you're going to invest time and money, well, money is the small part, an investment is the time. Right? The biggest investment is the time to learn how to use these tools. I would pick one that does everything and learn that one tool. So, that you don't have to patch a bunch of stuff together and Rank Whizz apparently has all that. Guys, again, this is only based upon the webinar, because Pavel knows his stuff, he is a serious SEO. After hearing him talk for two hours, he really knows what he's talking about, so I think it's a very, very powerful tool and I would put my trust into that, but that's just my assumption. Okay. I don't have any proof behind that, because I don't use any of those tools, myself. All right.
Marco: [crosstalk 00:47:26].
Bradley: Go ahead.
Marco: If I may, and if she's a newbie, and she's going to go into this expense, the expense has to be justified, well, the investment, let's call it, because it's actually an investment on the business.
Bradley: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Marco: So, you should have an SEO business if you're going to be running this type of tool, because this tool is for tier two and out, and if you get good enough into T-1 never at the money site. Unless, you're really surgical with the tool, you get so good with the tool that you can actually go at tier one, you know exactly what you're doing. Before you get to all that you should have a really good foundation with everything else. I don't know if she's doing Syndication Academy, if she wants to do it for clients, if she wants to do things affiliate, what it is that she wants to do, she says she's a newbie, which is really broad, what is she a newbie in? What is she trying to take on? What is she trying to do? Because if you go right for the link building tools, you have to have assets that you build links to.
Bradley: Yeah. Okay. Next is Stephen, and we're running out of time here, very quickly, I can see we're not going to be able to get to Roy's question, again, either, we tried this last week and I know we spent some time on it, but apparently we didn't have the whole scenario, and I know I passed over Steve. Roy, I'm assuming, I don't think you're in the Mastermind, Roy, but this might be one of those questions we're going to have to answer in the Facebook group or something, because we're running out of time. If you don't mind, Roy, can you repost this in one of the Facebook groups, Syndication Academy, or the SEO tutorials group, either one, and then tag me on it, Roy, and I'll spend some time going through and try to give you even if I've got to just record a quick screen cast video, or something and drop it in the comments section of that post, I'll try to get to this, because apparently two weeks in a row you've posted this, and we must not have answered it last week, because we didn't have the full information, and I'd hate to leave you hanging for another week, so if you don't mind, post that one on Facebook groups. Okay? Like, we did for Ken, this week, we can make sure that we get you a proper answer. All right?
Diversifying When Building Google Properties/Stacks
Marco: Yeah. Not all Google files are created equal.
Marco: They each have different, like one will rank over the other, remember Doctor Gary did a test I think it was in the Mastermind, or in RYS Academy. It was one or the other, or both, probably, where he showed, which one ranks better than the other one, but we still like to do all of them, because we like to interlink. Having just one Google property linking to another, and those two linking to another, and everything linking back, creating the spider web silo, that powers up everything, and it shoots the relevancy out to the destination, which is what we like to do. So, the way we do it is we just keep, you know, we don't do one or one file type, we do them all.
Marco: We do as many as we can and we link them all together, and then send the power wherever we want.
Bradley: Which is more diversity. Right? I mean, it seems to me, I haven't tested it, but I mean, I just, we always do every doc type that's available to us, or every file type. Okay. Let's see. We've got about four minutes. I'll give another four minutes. Roy, like I said, please, because this is a big long question and with the second part, as well, so just post that in the Facebook group, man, and tag me on it, I'm giving you permission to tag me, so that we can make sure we answer that. I might answer Columbia's real quick and then we're going to wrap it up, guys. By the way, we have Syndication Academy update webinar at 5:00 p.m., so in about 10 minutes, guys. You should have been notified via the Facebook group, because I created an event, so if you're in Syndication Academy, just go to the Facebook group, click on the events tab and you should find the event and it's going to start here in about eight minutes.
Best Structure For A Lead Gen Site
Columbia says, “Could you describe the best structure for a lead gen site and what would be careful to avoid? Do you do this under your name, or a persona? Thanks.” No. I always do everything under personas, Columbia, as I mentioned earlier in this webinar, and as I often do in many, many webinars, I try to mitigate my risk. So, I always set up a new persona for every lead gen site that set up. Then, I add myself as a manager, so I can add, for example, like I set up, for every lead gen site that I set up, guys, I set up a brand new Google account. I create a new persona, and then I create the website, and I add the Google My Business listing underneath that persona, the Google plus pages, I do all, Google Analytics, search console, tag manager, everything.
The only thing that I don't create a new account for every time is AdWords, but everything else I do. Then, what I do is I just add myself, or one of my agency profiles, like, I have an AdWords manager account that's underneath, it's basically an agency Google profile that I created specifically to run an AdWords manager account, so since I do most everything in AdWords for lead gen, now, I do some Maps SEO, but pretty much I do a ton of AdWords stuff now for lead gen, I just assign that agency profile as a manager to all my lead gen property sites, and search consoles, and analytics, and all of those, so that I can access everything from my agency profile. But, everything is owned by separate individual Google accounts.
The reason I do that, is because once again, I don't want, if at any time something happens and they decide that Google doesn't like my agency account anymore, and they shut it down, terminate it, I don't want to lose all those accounts. Right? It would suck to have my agency account shut down, but at least I would still have all my lead gen assets because they're all owned, you know, owned in air quotes, by other persona accounts. Okay. It's all about mitigating risk, guys. It's just about reducing risk to where if something bad were to happen you don't lose it all.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm not willing to take my chances and put everything underneath one account, and then end up losing it. Then, what do you do? You're left, you're stuck with nothing. You got to start all over again. At least if you do what I'm talking about, you know, you might lose an account or two, but you're not going to lose everything. Right?All right, guys. Yeah. I know. Adam started yelling at me, again. All right, guys. We're going to see everybody in Syndication Academy webinar in just a minute, hopefully. If you're not there, come join us.
Adam: Sounds good. See you guys later.
Marco: Bye, everyone.
Bradley: Thanks, everybody. We'll see you all on the next one. Any questions that didn't get answered, guys, just submit them next week, or post in some of the groups, we'll try to get to them. I cannot promise we'll get to all of them. I know I will get to Roy's, because I told him I would. We'll see you all next week. Thanks for being here. Thanks, guys.
Bradley: We're live. We're back on Hangouts, guys, because webinar wouldn't even start for us today, anyway. Hey everybody, Bradley Benner, here. Semantic Mastery, this is the Hump Day Hangouts episode 128, today is March 19th 2017, and we've got Chris, Hernan and Marco on with us. Adam is off running in the woods, again.
Hernan: Yeah. No. I think he was moving.
Bradley: He was moving? Is that what we're calling it today?
Hernan: Yeah. Let's call it like that.
Bradley: That's cool. Chris, what's up man?
Chris: Doing good. Right from a snowstorm here in Vienna.
Bradley: Guys, hold on, I guess Marco and Hernan you guys can chat for a minute.
Marco: I'm good, man. We got really bad electrical storms, my electricity keeps coming in and out. If I drop off the Google police didn't get me, the lightening storm got me. Sorry about that.
Chris: It's cool.
Hernan: We started to think this is some kind of conspiracy, since we launched Battle Plan.
Marco: [crosstalk 00:01:09]. I'm telling you. We're teaching people how to rank and they don't like, so they're trying to do everything they can to keep us off the air.
Chris: We make things too easily available out there, that's the thing.
Bradley: All right. Hopefully everybody refreshed the page, because on the event page, because you have to refresh the page for the new video to show up.
Marco: Okay. You both said it already.
Bradley: Let me see.
Bradley: Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. Let's get into it. I guess, we got probably a couple of announcements. We can stay to the actual five o'clock mark today, because we got started a few minutes early, or late guys. Anyways, let's get into announcements. Hernan, what do we got?
Hernan: Yeah. Real quick. One of the things if you haven't already, we strongly suggest that you get a copy of the Semantic Mastery, the SEO Domination Battle Plan. That will launch on Monday. Right now, the prices are real for the value that you're getting and basically the coupon ends, I think it's going to end in two hours, if I'm not mistaken. Then it's going to double, more than double the price.
Hernan: Go ahead get it. I'm going to put the link on the event page, but it's basically battleplan.semanticmastery.com. Go ahead download it, we tried to make a really concise, simple guide, step by step document that you can come back over, and over, and over again, depending if you have each sites, new sites, YouTube videos, local websites, it's everything in there. The way we do it. The way we implement it. That's the main idea with Battle Plan. If you're looking for something simple, go ahead and get it. If you're looking for something more complex, or if you want more support, et cetera, come join the Mastermind, but that's basically the main idea of the Battle Plan.
Bradley: There's a couple of things that I want to mention about that. Is number one we had some people say your process cannot be simple. Well, actually it is.
Marco: It is.
Bradley: You know, that's really what we do, guys, and that's why I continually say on these Hump Day Hangouts that I like easy. Don't over complicate shit, guys. If you want to make it complicated, then just stand on your head while you're doing it. I don't know. All I'm saying is those are the exact same services that we use, the same procedures, the process in order, in the steps that we do it in. It's not difficult. I mean, we've got the infrastructure behind us, which is provided, it's available for you guys, as well to use the same services that we use. I mean, again, some people said, well, it cannot be that simple, it's just because I think by nature we as SEO's and marketers typically want to over complicate shit, so that's part of it and the other thing is, and just very quickly, let me grab the screen, I want to show you something here. You guys are seeing my screen, correct?
Bradley: This is the bonus site, guys. I think there's more value in the freaking bonus site then there is in the actual PDF, so I just wanted to point this out real quick. This is something that wasn't even mentioned on the sales page, but you get access to this bonus site that has a ton of different bonus stuff in here, and the bonus webinar section alone there's multiple webinars, here, including on of our webinars that Marco just did, recently on iframe and java script secrets that's a pay per view webinar of a $147.00 and that's been included, as well. We've got a ton of different, you know, there's case studies in here for Live Rank Sniper, for Rocket Video Ranker Pro, the v-mail prospecting course, which is the basic course I'm probably going to be doing a full blown course for that in the next couple months. Again, I just wanted to point out for a $20.00 PDF, there's absolutely no reason why you guys shouldn't pick it up for the simplicity of it, number one. Number two, because you get access to a bunch of amazing bonuses. Okay.
Marco: The bonuses are, that's the reason why it's going to $100.00 when it's all said and done.
Bradley: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Marco: Because it's worth way more than a 100 bucks, but I mean-
Bradley: Damn right it is.
Marco: We wanted to keep it accessible to all of our members and followers, so they could actually have a plan that they could follow to achieve their success. If you want to complicate things, I mean that's fine as Bradley said, but it doesn't really need to be. All you have to do is just follow the step by step process. If you want to do more, then you're more than welcome to join Syndication Academy, you're more than welcome to come into the Mastermind and ask us as many complex questions as you want, and we'll answer them. You have full access to us, there. If not, just follow the training step by step. That's all you have to do. Seriously.
Marco: That's it.
Bradley: I love it when somebody analysis the plan and says, oh, no, it cannot be that simple, this must not work.
Hernan: [crosstalk 00:06:05].
Hernan: Another thing that's worth mentioning is that the bonus side that you get for free will be updated. We have a bunch of case studies that are going to be uploaded to the bonus site, so go ahead order it now, because again it's going to 100 bucks, soon. Now, you can get it for $20.00, it's crazy.
Chris: What's the coupon code, again?
Bradley: Missile launch.
Hernan: Yeah. It's missile launch. Thank you, Chris. It's missile launch, one word and it's on the event page, again, battleplan.semantricmastery.com. That coupon is going to be available for the next two hours and then it's going to more than double the price.
Bradley: Okay. Cool. All right. Do we have any other announcements, because if not, let's get into it.
Marco: Let's do it.
Bradley: All right. Cool. We're we going to talk, we're not talking about the next webinar, are we, yet? Marco?
Marco: No. You can just tell them what it's going to be about.
Bradley: All right. We're going to do another webinar in the series, Marco's series that we've done three, now, and we're about to do a fourth, which is going to be a structured data webinar, guys. We scheduled it, but I don't know the date off hand.
Marco: It will be around April 8th.
Bradley: May. A Monday-
Marco: May 8th.
Bradley: Monday. Excuse me Monday, May 8th. You're right. I'm sorry.
Marco: Usual time. It will be then, if it changes we have plenty of time to let people know.
Marco: I'm working on that.
Bradley: You guys will get notifications via email and stuff for registration, so I just wanted to let you guys know that, that's coming, as well. Okay. All right. Cool. I'm going to grab the screen and we're going to get into questions. It feels weird to be back in Hangouts, man. It feels kind of like home.
Bradley: You know?
Chris: It's actually working.
Bradley: It's working, too.
Private Home Address For A Lead Gen Site's Google My Business Page
Go get a PO Box. If you're in the United States, go get a PO Box. I know some people say that's not working, or isn't going to work anymore. I covered this in a Facebook live post, recently, but I'm still able to get them to work. What happens is where the problem occurs is if you try to register multiple businesses, so Google My Business pages underneath the same account using multiple PO Boxes. I've had that happen to me a couple times in the last few months where I've, in the last six months, where I've had, I've tried to register two different PO Boxes within the same Google My Business owner account, profile, essentially, and I've gotten it flagged and I had to reverify.
In one case, I just abandoned it all together, and re-registered a new business under another profile, because it there was no way for me to verify it. I basically lost that one, but it's not a big deal, it happens, guys. The way the work arounds so far to this point has been just to register one Google My Business profile per, or excuse me, My Business Account per profile, so that you essentially have a different account owner for each one. That's the way I've been able to get around it, again, they may crack down on that at some point in the very near future, maybe so, but until then I'm going to continue exploiting it. That's what I recommend you do.
You can also hire, rent virtual mailboxes from other places other than the PO box, but those are the cheapest and so far they are still working for me. Okay? Again, I do not recommend that you register a bunch of businesses to your home address, I mean, you can, but I wouldn't do it. All right? The other thing is you don't want to share the same address for multiple businesses. Guys, that's part of the reason I like to use PO boxes, because they're cheap enough, where even if I've got 10 businesses in the same, like I got 10 different lead gen funnels, let's say 10 different industries and it's in the same damn city, I can have 10 different PO boxes, because the deal is the address is going to be street address of the PO office and then you're going to get a box number.
It's going to be 123 Main Street number 101. Maybe next time you will get number 208, or whatever. My point is each one of those are each considered a unique address because of the box number, makes it unique. Does that make sense? I mean you could probably do it with your own home address, like if your home address was 123 Maple Street, and you did 123 Maple Street, or 123-A, and 123-B, 123-C you could probably get away with that, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it. Again, it's cheap enough to where you can just buy additional boxes and I like to do that.
People have asked me before, do you continue to rent the PO box after you've received the PO box, or excuse me, the verification card? Yes. I do. I pay for everyone of those. I've got PO boxes that I've been paying for, for years, guys, I renew them every year, it's only happened to me twice in my entire digital marketing career that I've had to reverify via postcard, a business listing, it's only happened twice in six or seven years, now.
However, when it happens, if it happens I have the ability to retrieve the postcard, because I renew the boxes every year and it's a nominal fee, guys. In the less populated areas I can get a PO box for a year for about 60 bucks, or $64.00 something like that. So, $64.00 per year, roughly. Okay? For the more populated areas it cost me $128.00 a year. It's so inexpensive, it's such a small cost of doing business that I just pay for it. Okay?
One Address For Multiple GMB Pages In Denmark
Okay. Anyways. “Can I use the very same address for multiple, different businesses in the same area, or city. Note, I live in Denmark. Thank you for your help.” I guess I should answer that, I don't know about Denmark, I cannot speak for anything in any foreign country, guys. All I can talk about specifically for local is within the United State, but I'm quite sure that if I can get away with doing what I'm doing in the US you could probably get away with it in Denmark. You probably would get away with a hell of a lot more in Denmark, I'm sure. In which case you might, you could possibly use one address and then just put that unique identifier like dash A, dash B, dash C, you could probably get away with that in Denmark, again, I don't know. I don't have any experience in that market, but in the US it's a little bit stricter, typically, and that's why I just use unique address for each location, like in other words a unique, it gets a unique box number, which makes it unique. Okay? All right. Cool.
Hump Day Hangouts For Semantic Mastery Students On Amazon, Rank & Rent, Etc.
Toby [inaudible 00:13:18], he says, “Can you do a Hump Day Hangouts with your students who are killing it Rank to Rant, or Amazon, Shopify, PayPerCall et cetera, or PayPerCall, et cetera?” I asked him this question yesterday, I guess, because I was trying to clarify, he said, yeah, by the way if you're watching Toby, what's up, he says, yes. “Should we bring on guest presenters?” We do that in the Mastermind, Toby. We bring guest presenters on in the Mastermind. We had Clint Butler on two weeks ago, which was awesome, because he did training on PageSpeed, which was awesome, because some of our Mastermind members implemented what he trained for that session and were able to reduce the page load times to under a second. I think it was like three quarters of a second, which was awesome.
Anyways, tomorrow we've got our very own Wayne Clayton, he's been one of our most engaged Mastermind members, and he's had phenomenal success, and he's coming on tomorrow to be a guest presenter, to talk about prospecting and his unique approach to prospecting and landing clients. He's had a lot of experience in the media industry, so he's got a unique approach that a lot of us in the digital marketing industry haven't seen or heard. I'm actually really looking forward to having him to come on tomorrow to give his presentation and answer questions about his prospecting methods. Again, Toby, we do that kind of stuff in the Mastermind. Hump Day Hangouts is really supposed to be a forum for Q and A. Okay? It doesn't mean that we cannot setup a separate webinar for that, sometime, but we'd have to figure out a good angle for it.
Marco: Yeah. Then, we'd also have to be careful about giving away the niche, or any of that information, because actually I had someone do that in the RYS Facebook group and when he posted the URL, directly after that, a couple of days later, he got hit with a ton of spam, so we know that it was someone from our own RYS Academy that went and did that. I don't know why they would do that to someone who is trying to help and show how he's doing it, but it's one of the reasons why we try to protect it, and keep it inside the Mastermind where we know most of the people are trustworthy.
Bradley: Yeah. I totally agree. That's why that's in part why we do stuff like that on the Mastermind, guys, because it's a very, very tight group, like an intimate group, so it makes it a lot easier. It doesn't mean that there's not people there that can be malicious, as well, because there certainly can be, but it's less likely.
Here's a good example, Brian, in the recent weeks I've done several case studies for different YouTube tools, they're all in the bonus site that I just showcased a minute ago. One of them being Live Rank Sniper and the other one being Rocket Video Ranker Pro, and there has been some spinning and all that for the video descriptions and that kind of stuff, which is pretty typical for any sort of spam work, and those are in my opinion they're both spam tools, they can be used to not spam, but the way that I used them was very intentionally to spam, and because of that I just started doing a lot of spinning and stuff like that again in the last few weeks, which I had gotten away from for a while.
When I create the links that go in the video description to where I want to direct people to, I like to use all the different variations as you just laid out here. HTTP, if there's HTTPS as well, if the SSL protocol is available then I'll go ahead and add that one in, as well. I'll use the trailing slash with and without the trailing slash, I'll use dub, dub, dub and non dub, dub, so I use all variation of them so that it adds variety and diversity to the video description. In other words, if we've got 15 videos in the same channel, I want the URL, the call to action URL to be a variation all the time, if possible. Just because it gives more diversity to the thing. Now, as far as the SEO purposes, since they all resolve to the same location, I don't think it makes much difference, but I'd like to hear Marco and Hernan's input on this, please.
Marco: It's just acrotex variation, that's why you do that. The destinations is usually all the same, but also you want to keep that, you might, people don't all link the same way. They-
Bradley: That's right.
Marco: If you go throughout the web, like you get 100 people they're all going to link to a website a different way. Some will use a dub, dub, dub. I particularly don't anymore, because I know it will resolve to the dub, dub, dub anyway.
Marco: I use them all simply because that's what people do on the web. It makes absolutely no sense, and whoever is advising only one variation is actually misguided.
Marco: Because that's not the way that people type.
Bradley: Now, the only time that I would recommend always using the exact same URL format is when you're citing an NAP, name, address, phone number, so any time you're going to create, or reference, or list an NAP somewhere within content, or link building, or something like that I would always recommend using the same type of URL. Just because it's an NAP, you want data consistency as much as possible.
Marco: And, the URL should be whatever shows-
Bradley: Shows in Google My Business.
Marco: Yeah. To link to the website, where they say website, and you click on it, that's the version that you should use in that one particular case.
Hernan: Yeah. This case, I totally agree with Marco. That's why we keep saying that you need to validate the entity on one of the main, you know, when your website is popular, or you're trying it to appear to be popular, you need to emulate as much as possible human behavior that's why you need to do things differently from time to time. I mean, different URLs people will mention your website differently, maybe they will spell it wrong. As long as the link is the link, you know, we had, I think we had Gary, Doctor Gary, came to a Mastermind and he showed how you can get links from really powerful websites just because they're misspelled. You know?
Hernan: As long as the URL is pointing correctly to your website, the anchor text could be misspelled, you know, it can be Semantic Mastery or something else, or Semantic Master as long as the hyperlink is pointing to semanticmastery.com. You know? Yeah. Vary it a little bit, that would be my intake on it.
In other words, and it doesn't have to be just be the on page, it could be the combination of on page, or on page and off page, but typically the organic results, it's a different algorithm. There's a lot of overlap between the local algorithm and the organic algorithm, now, it's a lot more closely related now than it used to be. That was particularly where a lot of that marriage occurred was the Pigeon update, if you guys remember that. That was, shit, that was probably two years ago, now. Amazing how time flies. There is some overlap there, but for example Ala, I don't ever, I don't care at all about organic rankings anymore for lead gen, or for local stuff, when I have a physical location available, even if that means I have to black half the physical location using a PO box. Right?
I don't care about organic anymore at all for lead gen and local stuff, only because I know from all my lead gen assets is that my call volume drops for stuff that was organic only. My call volume dropped 60%, because of the new SERP layout. Right? When I say new, it's not new anymore, but the SERP layout as it stands today, which is four ads, typically four ads and a maps pack, so you end up going past seven freaking listings before you ever get to the first organic. I can tell you right now, the reason why I'm telling you this is because I have multiple lead gen sites all over the place that are ranked in maps, but they might be on page two or page three in organic. I don't care.
It doesn't bother me, because the phone calls are coming from the maps pack, or from AdsWords, excuse me AdWords. I'm either getting calls from my ads, or I'm getting calls from the maps pack. I don't get calls from organic, very, very rarely do I get calls from organic when a map is displayed for a search query. Right? Most search queries are going to display. Now, I will still target organic for lead gen and local, like if I'm doing video campaigns, for example, because you cannot get a video, well, I say you cannot, it's unlikely to get a video above the maps pack, anymore, for a local term. Okay?
I still will do spamming with YouTube and stuff like that for organic rankings, but when it comes to websites, and stuff, I personally don't care if there's a maps pack that shows for the search query, then I'm going to try to rank in the maps pack, not the organic. Okay? Typically, when there's a difference between what's showing in maps, and what's showing in organic it's because the site that's ranking in maps, but not in organic is speaking, or it's more congruent with what the map's algorithm was.
If that makes sense. But maybe not as much for the organic. Like I said, it could be a, I found that's often times more an on page issue, than an off page issue, but it could be both. I'm just saying personally when I've been able to identify issues where I'm not ranking as good organically as I should be based upon my maps ranking, it's a lot of the times, at least in my experiences it's been because of on page issues, either over optimization, which triggers Panda, again, it's just Panda in general. Thin content, over optimization, things like that. You guys got any input on that?
Marco: Yeah. I would just tell him he is trying to do local since he talked about the map pack before.
Bradley: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Marco: Right? I'm thinking he wants, the way that you do that is entity. You do the entity. You validate it, then you push trust, and authority, and relevance up to the entity, it's called RYS Academy, by the way. That's how you force all of that up to the entity and over to the destination and you could actually do both. Rank in maps and organic.
I've said that in previous Hump Day Hangouts, that question has come up several times, Balint, so you're not the first to ask it. It's okay to post both the video to your channel and to your blog, and have them both syndicate to the same network, that's absolutely fine. Where the problem occurs is when people have both their YouTube channel triggering their network and their blog, and they upload the video, which syndicates to their network, and then they just take the video and go embed it in a post on their blog with the same title, and usually not much different in the video description, either, and then they post that, because here's the problem it won't hurt your money site, your blog, and it won't hurt your YouTube channel.
Where it can cause problems is on the network itself, the syndication network, because now you've got two posts that look nearly identical to your network properties, because it's the same title, which ends up being the same title, and then you have the same video, so especially for Blogger, Tumblr, and WordPress where there's embeds, because that's basically, it's going to look like the same post, basically, other than perhaps maybe some slight differences in text in the description area. But, if you're going to change the title and usually make the title more like blog specific, right, because usually blog post, guys, are going to have more, you know, longer conversational, natural speech pattern type titles than a YouTube video, because YouTube videos are going to usually be synced keyword different type titles. Right, guys?
But, blog titles are generally going to be more like natural speech patterns. Right? So, if you're going to take your video and also post it to your blog and have both syndicating to the same network, then it's absolutely fine to do so if you're going to make a different title, and if you're going to have that video transcribed, you're going to have a much longer description, so it's not going to look like duplicate content on the web two properties. If that makes sense. That's absolutely perfectly fine, Balint. I'm sorry if I misunderstood your question last week.
There are brand pages and there are locations pages, and actually locations pages are no longer Google Plus pages at all, they're maps pages. They're not even part of Google Plus, anymore. Does that make sense? If you go in your Google My Business dashboard you access your maps data through maps, and your Google Plus page, which is now just a brand page, there is no local version of the brand page anymore that I'm aware of, anyways, because you edit your details on maps. Okay? Anyways, there might still be a locations Google Plus page, but I don't know what the use of it is for, I don't how it's valuable at all anymore, to be honest with you, everything is now being, for the local part of it, it's all being handled through maps. Okay? So, for that, yeah, go ahead and create a different locations page for each.
“Do I need to modify the Battle Plan for the purchase practice since it already has G-Plus established? I'm a bit confused on how to apply the Battle Plan to the situation.” I'm not sure I understand what you mean, the purchase practice since it already has a G-Plus established, I mean, if it's already got a locations page, you're going to have to rebrand all that stuff. Right? I mean, I think that's what you're saying, you said, he rebranded his practice with the two locations, Roy, I'm not really following all of the parts of this question, but if you the other business that he purchased had a Google My Business page, already, and now he purchased it, if he's rebranding everything, what I would recommend, especially if that other business was established and had any sort of decent rankings in Google and/or maps. Right? If it was ranking.
You're going to have to rebrand it, if it's rebranded, I'm assuming it's going to have to be rebranded, in which case what you'd want to do is don't, I wouldn't set up a new listing, because it's going to have the same address unless the phone number changed, the name and the phone number, and the website, like if all of those data points change, then yes I would set up a new business. I would close, say that the other business was permanently closed then create a new listing, but you'd have to make sure that the only thing that was the same out of all the data points between name, address, phone number, and URL is the address. Right?
You'd have to have the different brand name, different phone number, different URL. Then, you could mark that other place as closed and start a new GMB page, which is what I would do if those other conditions were met. However, if the phone number, the physical location, and perhaps the web address, and/or the brand name or whatever are the same, if you don't have all those unique properties within those four data points, there, then you're going to have to do a citation cleanup, which would be going out and basically correcting all of the old citations to list the new data for the business. Does that make sense? That's a pain in the ass, but that's what you're going to have to do.
I recommend, highly, that you go, if you guys can get the link ready, it's semanticmastery.com/loganix, that's L-O-G-A-N-I-X. That is a citation clean up service there that can handle that for you, well, provided that it's in the US, they may do it in other areas, but I don't know. Loganix citation cleanup service in the US is really, really good. You get about a 70% success rate, and they're very, very thorough. That's what I would recommend doing. Like I said, if you're going to rebrand it and you get a new URL, and you're going to change the phone number then I would set up a new listing all together, because that's going to be a lot less of a headache than trying to fix old citations, that's just a real pain in the ass, and that's why I just outsource that all the time. All right. We're going to keep moving.
Generating Quality Leads From Google Adwords Campaigns
Bradley: Okay. If you want to followup, Roy, with us in one of our groups Facebook or something with some more detail, like where it can be explained a little bit further we might be able to help you out a little bit better. I feel like I wasn't able to answer that question, properly, because I don't have all the details. Mark's next, he says, “Hi, guys. Hope all is well. My question is about your Local Kingpin product, I'm starting to get somewhere now with SEO, but it does take forever, and that's okay, I accept that's how SEO goes and just get on with it, but I like the idea of starting with AdWords and then adding SEO lead gen later. I'm not asking for AdWords advice that's what the training is for, and I've bought your products before, so I know it will be legit. My question is how did, or how is it going? Are you able to generate enough quality leads for your client? I work with contractors, if that helps, not looking for specific advice, just your opinion on how well AdWords works.” I'm crossinated with AdWords, guys, I mean, yeah, my profit is a lot smaller on my AdWords leads because I pay for the clicks and everything, but they're so much easier to set up, and I can, I mean, that's what Local Kingpin is about, Mark, is about setting up like literally you can set up a lead gen funnel and have traffic, and be receiving leads within 48 hours.
I mean, you could do it within a day, but I say within 48 hours because it usually takes me two days to set up a lead gen asset. Well, it used to take me two days, when I was new, but now I've got a lot of stuff, templatized, like I've got Click Funnels, funnels that are already all set up. They're generic funnels. I can just clone the funnel and then go in and swap out details, and I've got working procedure's setup for a lot of stuff, now, so I have check lists that I can go through. That kind of stuff that makes it just really simple for me to set up a funnel, a lead gen asset, and turn on ads, and it's like literally within a few hours of you submitting your first ad you can start generating traffic.
The main thing, Mark, if you go through Local Kingpin, which I highly recommend, especially for contractors, because that's my market, is contractors. I mean, I love being able to generate leads with AdWords, now. I don't know why I was so scared of AdWords for so long, but now I absolutely love it, because the speed in which I can generate, and here's the thing, what I love about setting up AdWords funnels, guys, is I can determine right off the bat, right away, where my money keywords are. The 80/20 rule 100% applies to AdWords, and there's a book by Perry Marshall called, The 80/20 Sales and Marketing. Go get the damn book. By it on Kindle, whatever. Pick it up, read it, because it is absolutely 100% correct when it comes to AdWords, especially for the local lead gen funnels. 80% of your traffic is going to come from 20% of your keywords. That's it. All this shit that we do in SEO, where we scrap hundreds of keywords, and we build silos, and we have to do all this content, and we have to properly silo the content, we got to do all this internal linking, all that's great it can pay off there's no doubt, but so many of those keywords, or long tail and stuff like that where you're going to get very little to no traffic from them.
Now, cumulatively they all build to make your site stronger and more relevant, which will generate more traffic, so there's certainly a reason to do all that, but my point is we go through harvesting these great big keyword lists and all that stuff, and with AdWords, especially the way that I show how to do it using alpha beta campaign structure you can literally go in, do your keyword research in about a half an hour.
The main point for that is generating, or building a negative keyword list, because you ought to already know what your main money keywords are for the project that you're working on. Really the keyword research is about building a negative keyword list, but then you plug in your money keywords, you add your negative keyword lists, use modified broad match, and then you let AdWords tell you where your money keywords are, and within a month you can identify your top keywords where 80% of your traffic is going to come from, and I guarantee you it will be 20% of your keywords.
Then, those are the keywords that you focus your SEO efforts on. As I mentioned, I think in the Local Kingpin training, I'm not starting any SEO projects from scratch anymore. I'm not starting new projects with SEO as my main promotional type, anymore. I'm not doing it, unless it's YouTube spam, because I'm just not going to do it. From now on, I'm doing AdWords first to prove my keywords and prove that it's converting and that kind of stuff, and then I'll invest my time and effort into SEO for the keywords that I've identified as my winners.
Bradley: Does that make sense?
Hernan: Yeah. I really like that approach, Bradley. The fact that you're getting speed, that you're getting, I mean, each rating on a project and you're failing fast.
Hernan: You're finding out, you're weeding out the keywords that are not going to work, that they're not going to convert, and then you're focusing on the keywords that are, and I think that's really the key when it comes to paid advertising, is that you get data so much faster that your business can grow a lot more, because if you have to be waiting six months to get data on your business, it's money, time is money.
Hernan: If you're doing SEO and waiting all of that time, then you're spending all of that money that you could be earning, because you're failing fast on your project. Once you have that, once you have the process in place you can still do SEO and you know that it's going to pickup three to six months down the road, maybe a year down the road and you still do SEO, so that when that hits, or when you're getting a decent amount of organic traffic, you know that the funnel is converting.
Hernan: There's basically no top to how much you can scale, it all depends on the market that you're in. The market will tell you how much you can scale, or sell a product, or sell a service, whatever that is, but that's basically why I like paid advertising combined with SEO, because again you don't want to put all of your eggs in one basket.
Bradley: That's correct.
Hernan: Like, one way or the other.
Bradley: Yeah. Here's the thing, guys, think about this, you could spend months working on a project, and find out for SEO I mean, you could spend months working on trying to build the SEO for a project, set of keywords, whatever, and find out that it's just not profitable. It's not working. Now, you've spent months of effort and time on it, and probably money, as well. With AdWords you can prove it very, very quickly, whether it's going to be profitable or not. If you can make it profitable when you're paying for the clicks, then it will be profitable for SEO, there's no doubt, because you won't be paying, I mean, you do pay for those clicks with time and effort, and somewhat money, too. You know what I mean? It's indirect. You're paying indirectly, not directly for clicks.
Again, that's number one. Number two, the other part of that, Mark, is why I love AdWords for local lead gen now is because if you do register a mailbox and it can be a PO box, it doesn't even have to be verified, guys. You can register local addresses and set up AdWords campaigns and use the location's extension. Are you hearing this? You don't even have to have a verified address and it will still show the location's extension in your ad and it will also, if you've got your ads set up properly and you're at the top of the search, or the top of the ads pack, which as to do with quality score, you'll end up in the maps, an ad in the first maps position. Not necessarily in the three pack.
On mobile devices, if you have call only ads set up you can show up in the three pack on mobile devices, but on desktop, I haven't seen, I haven't been able to get any of my ads to show up in the three pack on desktop, but I have been able to get almost virtually all of my ads to show up in the first position in maps, so when somebody clicks on the more results, it will show my ad at the very top of the results when that page expands. If that makes sense.
That's the thing, and again with location extensions you don't even need to verify the address. I know that, because one of the lead gen funnels I set up for Local Kingpin, Google was not sending me the verification postcard, so I went ahead and said, screw it, I'm going to continue with the project and I went ahead and added the location's extension and you have to link it to your Google My Business profile, and then select whatever page, and I linked that page to it and I thought well, let's just check it and see if it works, and damn if it didn't show my maps extension in the ad, even though it was an unverified address, which is awesome. Right? I just wanted to give you guys that little nugget. Local Kingpin, guys, is a great, great course if you're doing lead gen and you're not using AdWords, you're crazy, in my opinion. Okay.
Battle Plan Versus RYS Academy, Syndication Academy & Other Semantic Mastery Products
Hernan: Yeah. [inaudible 00:41:58] depth of Semantic Mastery and the three years-
Hernan: In Mastermind. I know all of the nuggets that are RYS, it's going to be longest.
Bradley: Yeah. That would be very, Herovic, the Battle Plan is basically, the process is that we use for working on any digital assets, whether they're established or they're just being launched. It's the same, it's just the series of steps that we take for setting up the networks, and link building, and citations, and press releases, and like all of the different steps in the order that we do them. It's the same process that we've used for years, now.
All we did was put it in a simple format, including links to the products and services that we use for that kind of stuff, which most of them are our own services, anyways, because we developed all of those services specifically because we use them. We only made our services available to others, because we kept getting asked for it. We had developed our services, for us, originally. Okay. That's all it is. It's very, very simple. It doesn't need to be complicated. Some people wished it was more complicated, and that's why I said, you know, I don't know, stand on your head while you perform the tasks. I don't know.
Marco: Can I add something more to this?
Bradley: Please, do.
Marco: Yeah. Our Battle Plan is a blueprint. A blueprint is used to build a house.
Marco: The blueprint does not build the house for you, you have to follow the blueprint and go and build a house, using whatever tools are necessary for the construction of whatever it is that you want to make of that house according to the blueprint that you're using. I mean, I cannot put it any clearer, or plainer than that. Get a blueprint on what you're supposed to do and how you're supposed to do it, not why you're supposed to do it, and definitely it's not going to get done for you. I hope that clarifies-
Bradley: Again, it's very simple Herovic, it's the process that we use, and I like simple, that's why we made it simple, because it doesn't need to be overcomplicated. If you want to learn more about Syndication Academy, and syndication networks, you're certainly welcome to join, RYS, as well, Mastermind is our top level coaching group, and that you're certainly welcome to join that, as well.
Live Rank Sniper doesn't even require you to have a video, it's just a software that automates the process of setting up YouTube scheduled live events, because of their indexable schedule with live events, they will index without even a video, they're just place holders in the index, and then once you have identified keywords you can, if you want, stream directly to those scheduled live events through Live Rank Sniper. It's a manual process, and it takes time. I say, manual, it's semi automated in that you only have to click the mouse a couple times for it to start doing its thing, but then you have to wait for the software to run to stream the video, and it will end and then you have to stream, you know, click the mouse a few times to go stream to the next scheduled live event that's ranking. I don't recommend it for that. I recommend using it specifically for identifying keywords, using it as a poking tool. Okay? If you want a tool that works seamlessly with Live Rank Sniper I would say Hangout Millionaire, which is Peter Drew's upgrade, like that's his top level, well, it's currently his top level SEO video marketing software, but he's coming out, well, I'm not going to say anything else. That's a great tool, as well, though, it works really good with Live Rank Sniper.
Rocket Video Ranker is a different animal all together. Rocket Video Ranker is freaking fabulous. It's a loophole as far as I'm concerned. The way that it works, but basically you upload, you just do uploads with Rocket Video Ranker, but it automates uploading multiple videos at one time very, very quickly in a very unique fashion. The way that it works, it's very unique, I don't know how long it's going to last, or even why it works the way that it does, but it works really, really well, right now. I know, because I used a shit ton, I used a lot of it. I used it a lot, excuse me, over the last two weeks, and the case study, by the way, just so you know, the case study in here, look, this is it, guys, I mean, I've got 11, there's got to be two and a half hours worth of content in this case study, alone. Exactly how I use it, and it's great because you can set up digital assets.
YouTube channels, you can turn YouTube channels into digital assets very quickly using this, and I even talk about it in the strategy session here, in what's the very last video here, it's called, What's Next, I talk very specifically about a strategy that you can hire virtual assistants to run the software for you, and literally create dozens and dozens of these digital assets, YouTube channel assets, and you can monetize them, and there's multiple ways to do that, as well, and I talk about that in the case study. Hopefully, that makes some sense. Herovic, if you don't have either one of them go buy the PDF, the Battle Plan and you should have access to this bonus study, excuse me, this bonus membership site and if you do, then just go through watch the first couple videos of each one of the case studies, and you make the decision as to what is best for your business. Okay? They're available for you to watch, so that you can make that decision.
Marco: That's correct. The iframe will show whatever is in the source.
Marco: But, hang on, if he's changing the iframe that it's structured in the website, it's not going to update everywhere else.
Hernan: But, I think, well, Ivan, if you're listening, maybe you can comment, but I think that what he's saying is if he adds something, well, yeah, I know, if he adds something to the code that's not going to resyndicate, but if you change what's within the iframe-
Hernan: Then it could, like if you change something within the Google My Maps, you know, like if you add another marker for example, that will automatically show everywhere, but if you add, I don't know, whatever, a piece of code to that iframe, that's not going to resyndicate. Am I correct? Am I right?
Marco: That's correct. You would-
Bradley: [crosstalk 00:49:18] past the closing iframe tag, then that's not going to update across the properties. Right?
Bradley: Right. If that's what you mean, Ivan, if you're trying to add stuff like beyond the closing iframe tag, then no. You'd have to issue a new, or publish a new post. Here's the thing guys, you cannot publish a post and have it syndicate to your network, and then go back and edit the post on your money site, and then expect it to edit all the posts that it was syndicated to, as well. It doesn't work like that. You'd have to go delete the original post and then basically republish the post as a new post in order for it to trigger the RSS feed to syndicate, as a new post. Right? There is a plugin that you can use in WordPress, it's called, Republish Old Posts, funny enough. Right?
Republish Old Posts, and I'll say WP, or WordPress, that's it right there. This plugin right here, you can use this plugin to republish old posts, it will reinsert them into your RSS feed, which will trigger a new syndication, you can do something like that if you wanted. But, yeah, if you're changing something within the iframe, it's going to update everywhere that the iframe was syndicated to, if you're changing something outside of the closing iframe tag, then no, you'd have to force the syndication all over again. Okay? He says, “By the way, my comment on Semantic Mastery sales page, wow, I was surprised it's like having a page one, position one on Google.” That's awesome. Thanks, Ivan.
In other words, don't try to create more than two Tumblrs, for example, or two Gmail addresses within 24 hours from the same IP. It will flag your IP and trust me, it will cause problems. If you're going to be doing a lot of building, which again I don't recommend you do, you should outsource that or just go to SERP Space and buy networks, but if you're going to be doing a lot of that kind of stuff, then I recommend that you have at least five proxies, dedicated proxies, you want them to be clean. Dedicated means you are only using them, don't get shared proxies. I also, highly recommend if you are going to be building a lot of networks that you use Browseo. Seriously. I mean, I got it opened, right here. I mean, it's crazy, I got all these Browseo, I got this open all the time now, guys, it's insane, because it's a great, great tool. Okay?
“Once a network is in place, how much lift does using stacks of interlink Google properties add?” It depends, David. It depends if the Google stacks are created properly. It depends on how they're done. It depends on which keywords, there's just so many variables there, if they're done correctly you can expect a substantial increase in rank. Okay? But, if you don't do it correctly then, you know, I cannot speak, it might not help at all, in fact it might even cause problems. I don't know. It just depends if they're done right, or not.
Marco: It also depends on how much risk he's willing to take, as far as, hammering the drive stack properties.
Ken, that's a really good question. I've never had to experience that, so it would take me some thought, we don't have time for me to go, I mean, I'd literally have to think about it. Is Ken in any of our, he's not in our Mastermind is he? I don't think he is. Ken, this would be an awesome question for us to dissect in Mastermind, I sure wish you were in there, buddy. Let me think about this one a little bit, Ken, and we can revisit it next week. Sorry, if you cannot wait until then, because otherwise join the Mastermind, because we've got a Mastermind tomorrow, this could be a great question to dissect, but otherwise you are going to have to wait until next week, and I'm going to make a note right now.
Marco: If I could just add that right now the main factor for a three pack, or for what appears to search is proximity, I mean, that's without question what the main factor, I mean-
Bradley: Especially for mobile.
Marco: [crosstalk 00:55:19]. If you are mobile, yeah, and you're talking about nearly 70% of people right now who are searching on mobile, but I was just doing something on that last week, and sharing it with someone that-
Marco: Proximity seems to be the overriding factor. I mean, before anything else Google will pick up proximity.
Bradley: Yeah. So, Ken, again, if you're in Mastermind, or if you want, you should join, and I'm not saying that for any other reason other than this would be a really good question to really dig into, but otherwise, I've got a note, I'll think about this a little bit, maybe consult with Marco a bit, and then we'll have kind of a concise answer for you next week. Okay? All right. I'm just going to read Wayne's comment, really quickly, then we've got to wrap it up, guys, because I've got to go. He says, “Word on the street is that you are sharing something tomorrow on Mastermind that will elevate our business. Is something special planned for the next Mastermind?” Why, yes. It's this guy named Wayne Clayton, who's going to be on tomorrow sharing some of his expertise in prospecting and dealing with clients and his process of determining how much money they have to spend, what their goals are, and all that kind of stuff.
I was super impressed with a post that he made in one of the Facebook groups, one of our Facebook groups about a particular method that he uses whenever he's prospecting and pitching clients, or at least asking questions of the clients, of prospects, excuse me. It was really detailed and I was super impressed, so I reached out to Wayne and asked him if he'd come on and be a guest presenter for the Mastermind, to share some of his stuff, and so I'm actually really looking forward to it. In part, because we are, in Semantic Mastery, we're really ramping up something on the side that we're working on that's going to be requiring a lot of prospecting work.
Maybe in the near future, there's going to be a full on, full blown prospecting course coming out from us, because that's something that I'm working on right now, so I'm really anxious to hear what Wayne's got, because some of that might even get included in what will be coming out with our prospecting course, in the future. Anyways, hopefully anybody that's not in our Mastermind, it would be a good time to join, so go to mastermind.semanticmastery.com if you want to find out more about that, otherwise, we'll see everybody next week.
Marco: Sounds good.
Bradley: Thanks, everybody. We'll see you all later.