Weekly Digital Marketing Q&A – Hump Day Hangouts – Episode 244

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Announcement

Adam: Alright, we are live Welcome everybody to Hump Day Hangouts. This is one where I get all hopped up on a bunch of cold drugs and pills and pretend like I'm not sick for a little bit. But this is Episode 244. We're glad you're here. This is your first time joining us. Thanks for being here, you're in the right place. If you are on Youtube, you're kind of in the right place. But you should come over to https://semanticmastery com./HDquestions and that's where you can actually ask the questions and interact. But real quick before we get into stuff, we got some really good announcements, some fun stuff coming up. Just want to say hello to everyone real quick. I'll start on my left. Chris, how you doing?

Chris: Doing excellent as always.

Adam: There's always a good deal. Good deal with your situation. Back to normal in Australia.

Chris: Yeah, it's pretty good. Like, many people think it's chilly because we are like, I don't know, between 18 to 20 degrees right now, which is like 20 degrees less three in Celsius, obviously. But yeah, I like it that way for me to be better. I can work. I can do my projects. I can hit the gym and stuff. I don't have to sweat all day and actually can go out and stuff as well. So I'm super happy. I can't complain. How are you doing?

Adam: Good, good. Except for the cold. It's, it's nice. I'm one of those people man when I get a cold I just turned into like a hibernating bear. I don't want to go outside. off that it's sunny and nice outside. I just want to sit here be pissed off. But yeah, that's me. I'm happy. I'm here though. today. We got like I said some good stuff. But Marco, how are you doing?

Marco: Dude, edibles have great medication. It won't cure the cold, but you'll feel a whole lot better as a cure. what ails you, it'll, it'll make you feel better.

Bradley: We're going to Denver in October, man.

Chris: It's leaving Air France to them in Europe.

Marco: There you go. You guys, you guys are incorrigible.

Adam: POFU Live is going to take on some new weird meaning. So

Bradley: we're going to have the hump day hang out while we're there. And we'll all be big.

Adam: Bradley, how you doing?

Bradley: Good. I'm happy to be here. Excited about a lot of stuff going on with my business and some new stuff we got going on next week in the mastermind. Well, for a small group. Things are good. I started a new business, it's really kicking ass. Somebody's got a question about it. So I'll get to that here in a minute when we get to questions, but it's been really fun. Applying digital marketing to a new business model that's not specifically a marketing business, there's a lot of marketing to it. All businesses require marketing. That's what we do as marketing consultants, right, we help businesses grow by improving their marketing. But it's you know, as a marketing professional, we typically are working on other companies marketing, not so much our own, you know what I mean? Like to grow our own businesses, even as a, as an agency, a lot of the marketing that I've done for my own agency, which really hasn't been a lot has come from word of mouth. And, you know, a lot of outbound marketing, not so much inbound marketing, and it but as soon as we get a new client or several clients, whatever, we end up working on those businesses, right, so we help other businesses grow. Instead of a lot of time growing around, of course, the more clients we get, the more we grow. But it's just interesting to start another business where I'm generating leads for my own business. And it's an in applying all that I've learned, and kind of perfected over the years to my own business. And watching it grow rapidly, which I've done for others, but not so much myself. And it's just really interesting to see the different dynamic, to be in different shoes, so to speak. I'm still a marketing professional. But now I'm applying it to my own business. And I'm watching that really take off. And it's, it's been a pretty cool experience. And so that's something that we're, you know, I'm really excited about and we've got some pretty cool things going on in the mastermind in a smaller group within the mastermind, specifically around that kind of stuff. So nice. Excited to be here.

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Adam: Yeah, yeah. And I wanted to kind of touch on that. Just real quick. If you're, like I said, new. Thanks for watching. You know, you're in the right place. You can show up every week, same time. You know, I think was this episode 244. We've been doing this for a little while. We're going to keep doing it for a while longer, but be here 4pm Eastern every week on Wednesdays. If you're looking for the next step, you know, that is a question we get you to know what, what should I do? You know, I've been watching your videos, what's the next step grab the battle plan, check it out at https://battleplan.semanticmastery.com. After that, the place you're going to want to be is what Bradley was just talking about was our mastermind, you can find out more about that at https://mastermind.semanticmastery.com. And then for those of you who are, you know, either doing client work, you've grown your own agency or you know the value of your time. If you want to get premium done for you SEO Services, head over to https://mgyb.co. Real quick to I wanted to say we sent out an email. Or you know what all on this one, I sent out an email with a little bit of a spelling error. Turns out it's POFO, not POFU. fo if you want to come to poke who live in Denver, it's October 11, 12th and 13th. The 11th is going to be the VIP day. Wrapping that up right now it is going to be kick ass until I confirm it. That's all I'm going to say. But that's going to be a great way to get to know everybody. You know, just do the networking, meet up with people, and then roll into the event on the 12th and 13th. And have a great time a lot of actionable content and kick ass guest speakers along with ourselves. But literally tomorrow, the early bird pricing is going away. So if you've been on the fence, you've been thinking about it, now is the great time to buy your ticket after that prices are going up. And that's where they're going to stay until the event. So grab those today. I'll put the link on the page for everyone to go and grab their tickets. Let's see. We talked about Oh, Bradley, do you want to mention what's coming on next week, you talked about the training for the new business. But I believe there's another webinar for everyone next week, right?

Bradley: Yeah, next Thursday, we're doing at 4pm Eastern, an MGYB kind of Syndication Academy update webinar, where we're going to be talking about how to get the most I guess the most bang for from press releases, how to get the best SEO effect and for driving traffic. And we're going to talk a little bit about PR stacking and how to how to do that the PR stacking method, and also how to get just how to even add more power to the press releases into the PR stacking method. And so it's again, that's going to be kind of an mg ye webinar, as well as the Syndication Academy update webinar, because there's a way that you can apply the PR method to a syndication network to and use that as another way to amplify the PR the press releases. So I would highly encourage you guys to go check that out, it's going to be cool, we're going to talk about, you know, again, you can get press releases from MGYB, which is the same service that we all use. And they're very, very powerful if you know how to how to do it correctly. So we're going to be talking a lot about that a lot of the stuff that will be talking about has actually really ever only been explained fully before in Local PR Pro. So we're going to touch on some of those concepts in the webinar next week.

Adam: Very cool. Awesome. Yeah. So everyone, stay tuned, you'll be getting if you're on the email list, you will be getting an update about that and some information about where that's going to be at and how you can get there. If you are not, and you're watching us today, you can just head down on the page and get signed up below. If you're watching this at https://semanticmastery com./HDquestions, you can just sign up right there. And that's how you get notified of all this stuff along with flash sales. Lot of the content we put out as well. So I think that'll do it you guys anything else before we dive in?

Chris: Yeah, I highly recommend to subscribe to the YouTube channel.

Adam: Agreed, you should definitely subscribe to our YouTube channel.

Bradley: Okay, good. So I set up a YouTube ads campaign to help them prove our subscriber increase our subscribers and are like 90% up from the last 28 days with just a very small ad spend. So it's pretty cool guys, you can use YouTube to do that kind of stuff, you know, buy ads to increase subscriber rates and it's very inexpensive.

Chris: Be sure to subscribe to get easter eggs. We have a surprise coming on our YouTube channel. So make sure you don't miss it.

Bradley: Awesome. Let me grab upsets the wrong button. All right, let's get into questions. We have quite a few already, which is good. See, I guess we start with Justin T. Let me actually blow this up a little bit, guys.

How Would You Brand A Lead Generation Asset In A Photography Niche?

Alright, hey guys, thanks for everything. I'm in the process of setting up my first lead generation asset I'm going after the photography niche. Should I brand the site like any other photographer? example, shutterbug photography, or should I go with something like Edmonton photographer.com? No. Go with a branded name, or branded domain if that's what you're talking about because you're much better off with brand guys. With a brand, excuse me a branded domain and a branded like a brand name than trying to use exact match keywords or exact match keyword domains. Those are all. Like, you know, we don't recommend that for many reasons, because it's it looks spammy, it sounds spammy. For GMB assets. Specifically, you want to try to get away from doing anything spamming, including the name itself. And also exact match domains typically will trigger penalties a lot easier or quicker with a lot less, it takes a lot less, in other words, to trigger a penalty, because even a soft penalty, because again, it's already optimized right off the bat. And so everything that you do has that additional layer of optimization. And so I don't recommend that at all. If you're new to the SEO game, then I completely understand why you would think that that might be something to go after, you know using exact match keyword domain and perhaps, you know, an exact match or even partial match keyword for the brand name itself. But I recommend that you go with something that's branded Instead, it will allow you to get away with a lot more SEO stuff without actually triggering a penalty. Any comments, guys?

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Marco: It's also pigeonholing yourself if you go Edmonton photographer, right? What if you don't want to just what if you want to start ranking for something else besides Edmonton, or in the surrounding areas of Edmonton, if you just go, but if you go with branded and your look, and then you have a locations page, Edmonton and whatever else, God I'm sorry, I'm not that familiar with Canadian geography. But you go with photographer, let's just say photographer.com, but it should be a brand. And then you're going to have a locations page. And then you're going to have Edmonton and whatever other cities, and then you can offer services or you can have services plus whichever way you set up your silo, you have a lot more flexibility than if you start off with Edmonton photographer. And you're going to offer a wedding photographer. And so you have to be really careful with how often you use the word photographer. So that you don't get filtered for all these things. And you have all these bad things that can happen with a TLD, when you go with an exact match domain, you have to be really careful with the keywords and how you use them.

Bradley: Yeah. And so the next question is from him as well. And he says, and so it clarifies this first question. He says, I'm confused how I branded this thing, especially when it comes to the GMB. Is it a photography company branded like a regular business? Or is it something like wedding photography, location name, if it is set up as a business, then when someone calls once they be confused when another business that they are sent to? Yeah, and so, you know, there's, and I've talked about this a lot and Local Lease Pro on how to resolve that kind of an issue. So typically, what, what I've done in the past is I would set up kind of a generic type name. But again, it would still be a brand name, not a, an exact match keyword because, or even for that, for that matter, a partial match keyword. So for example, I use tone prose a lot like I would use the city name home Pros for like remodeling or general contractors and things like that because it's, it's, you know, it's a related type term. But it's not something that is a keyword that people typically search for people don't search for Remodeling Contractors by typing in, you know, home pros, but it makes sense because it's related, right. And then once the assets would rank and start producing, when I would find a service provider that wanted to purchase the leads from me or lease the asset from me, however, however, we you know, whatever agreement we came to, then after a few months, if they had proven themselves to be good service providers, and it looks like they were going to be long term, then I would rebrand it. Okay.

And that's part of the reason why we've talked about not building citations. There's a number of reasons why you don't want to build citations for lead generation asset. One would be if you plan on rebranding it because then you have to go back and update all of the existing published citations. But the other thing is if it's a spam GMB, in other words, if it's a Google My Business address, that you use to verify or excuse me, a listing that you've got verified, that you don't have access to the actual address where it was verified to, then you don't want to build citations, because that once you start building citations, naturally, that physical location will start receiving mail, as solicitation offers from marketing companies, and directories and other all kinds of things. And it will be addressed to that business name. So if you purchased a GMBs that it was verified by somebody else, then you don't want to do citations. Because next thing, you know, you're going to start getting business mail sent to that location. And it could very well very easily be reported by whoever's at that location, right, whether it's a business or a residential address, somebody is going to be getting mail that's addressed to a business that doesn't actually exist there. And so that's one reason I said, don't build citations. But another is if you are going to rebrand it, for the service provider that you end up ultimately, you know, securing for that location or for purchasing that lead those leads or whatever, then you also don't want to be you don't want to build citations, right? So that's why I said if you're gonna if you're going to do one of the things that I've done, as far as how do you resolve that? Well, we would I use a call center for all of my lead generation assets, where the calls go directly to you know, what I use? It's called AnswerConnect, answerconnect.com and I set up a script where they answered the phone. And so let's say that it's, you know, shutterbug photography is the name of your business, right, your lead generation asset. And let's say it's going to Joe Smith photography is the actual photographer that's going to be handling it, then I, the way that I would set it up is that the call center would answer it as shutterbug photography, part of the Joe Smith photography group, or something like that. And so it's just a way to inject the actual business name, that the leads are going to be serviced by into the introduction or the greeting that the when the caller answers the phone. So again, you know, I've said this many times, if you're going to be building lead generation assets, you're better off using a call center, if you're going to be directing leads, or you know, the field having calls coming in. Because another reason why you want to do that, and I talked about this, I think in the last week, last month, Hump Day Hangouts is because when you start getting calls, if you direct the for forward the phone number directly to the business, unless they have a full-time receptionist in a photography photographer might, unless they have a full-time receptionist, they're going to get hammered with a bunch of solicitation calls. It's funny how when you rank a Google asset or rank on the first page, but primarily in maps, when you rank in maps, all of a sudden, you start getting a bunch of calls from marketing, and advertising agencies, like Yelp, is one of them. Again, I use contractors a lot as examples. But home advisor will absolutely start hammering contractor lead generation assets, with phone calls, trying to sell them leads. And so and it's funny that that only happens once you're ranked on page one, when you're ranked on page two, when you really need those types of lead, like in other words, I would you know, as I would think as a marketing and advertising agency, they would be targeting page two, but they're always targeting the page one people. So anyway, my point is, is that the business will get inundated will get hammered with solicitation calls. And so that could actually piss a business off. And I know it because I've been doing this for years. So that's why I always recommend setting up a lead or excuse me a call center, because the call center will screen the calls and filter out the solicitation calls, those won't ever go those messages won't get to the business, it's going to be purchasing leads from your leasing asset, or however you work it out. Now, if they got a full-time receptionist, the reception, that's the receptionist job, you can still forward it to them. But in that case, I would have a whisper on the line. Right? If you if you're directing the phone calls directly to the business and the business has a receptionist or somebody that answers the phone regularly, then I would put a whisper on the line that states that the call is coming from your lead generation asset. So for example, if again, if you're if you named it shutterbug photography, I would have the winner per se shutter call from shutterbug photography or call from shutterbug, or something like that, so that when they answer the phone, they're going to hear that, right as soon as they pick up the phone.

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And they're going to know that they should greet it as a shutter shutterbug photography, part of the Joe Smith photography group or something like that. Does that make sense? However, you word the greeting. But it's just a way to inject the actual service, whoever's servicing that lead into that actual greeting so that it doesn't confuse people. And I've always told this to people in the past, like a lot of Tree Service contractors wouldn't know, when I was caught what like how to how to respond to a customer when they would go out to the customers' location to give them an estimate for a Tree Service job. When you know, the caller called in and it was a different Tree Service Company Name because it was a lead generation asset, I've always told them, You just tell them that smart our lead generation website, and it just hasn't been updated with our brand name that's all about that's all you have to say. So my point is Don't lie. Just try to work it into coming up with a creative way to work it into there, to where you say, you know, the service providers name in the greeting as well as whatever. And if anybody if the question ever came up why called Soderbergh photography? Why is Joe Smith photographer, answer, you know, answering line, so Well, that's because that's a lead generation website that we've had on the web that just hasn't been updated yet or something like that. And that's I've always been able to get around it that way and never had any issues. So that's, that's how I would recommend that, again, you build it with kind of a generic brand name, as shutterbug photography would work? Well, I know, don't know if that's really what you're planning on using. But use that as your brand name until you get a service provider that's going to be in place for what you hope to be long term, don't do it right away. Don't switch the brand right away. Because what happens if you find out that they're not, you know, they're not going to pay you on time, or they're a pain in the ass to deal with. You don't want to start switching the brand name of a champion that said, just so you guys know, a lot of stuff that you're doing in GMB right now is a bit, you know, I would caution you make any sort of significant changes in the Google My Business assets except for perhaps when you first set it up, because Google is certainly on a rampage right now with triggering suspensions for like the slightest kind of changes. And it's, there's no rhyme or reason to it. So I don't know that change. I've gotten away with changing the location name of GMB assets, I mean, many times in the past, even changing the location address without being triggering a suspension or re-verification. But right now, Google's got like what I call an itchy trigger finger, they're looking to suspend with some of the slightest changes if it's a brand new list, and you might be able to get away with some immediate changes. But once it's been established or aged for any period of time, it seems like any sort of significant change can trigger a suspension. Now that all might change again, and a few weeks or a few months, I don't know. Right now, it's a bit hairy. I would rather and staying away from any sort of big changes, but that's, that's why I said guys, you know, there was a period of time of almost an entire year now that we could get away with murder. And now they're really cracking down on it. And this is a fluid type of business guys, you have to evolve with what's going on in the current state, or you know what I mean? And so that's why I don't recommend going after building a bunch of lead generation assets right now. In fact, we kind of more or less, I think Marco would agree with me. I have kind of switch back to building like a real GMB asset that you can have access to verifying the address that kind of stuff and then building that out Local GMB Pro style, instead of building a bunch of additional assets that could potentially get terminated or suspended right now. Marco, do you want to comment on that?

Marco: Yeah, I hate doing a whole bunch of work for you know, when it's possible that you're going to get shut down. Think about this. And I mentioned this in another group that I was talking to, so has an Uzi right now. And they're just blasting anything that moves. Why in the fuck would you stick your head out right now? It's really that simple. Think about it. So that's happening. Someone's got the Uzi out there shooting anything that moves, you don't stick your head up, you turn around and get and get the fuck out the way. So right now just leave it alone. And the way to do it is you go to local GMB Pro, which is totally you can work in somebody else's asset, right, a real company with a real GMB. And if anything happens, you can go and ask for it to ask for the suspension to be removed. So a whole lot simpler, you can still apply all of the principles that are taught to this area except that controlling the asset has become just almost impossible, I'm not gonna say impossible because nothing's impossible, somebody will figure something out. Another way to get around Google and it'll go wide open again, Wild West. But in the meantime, it's almost impossible for you to control the asset. It means that if it gets suspended, there's no way for you to recover the asset, you just have to let it go. And now you lost whatever however much time you invested in it. That's another one of the reasons why, you know, all this time, time is always is so valuable, that I had to come up with a way instead of rebranding these assets I didn't for somebody else come up with to come up with it with a simple solution. So that I wouldn't my staff or I wouldn't have to go through all the work of rebranding with it. And that's just giving the person that answers the phone. A simple line couple of seconds. Yeah. And that takes care of everything. Think about how much time you just save. If you do it that way, then if you do a brand and you try to rebrand. So it's time Don't waste all that time on shit that might not pay off and it might you might get away with it. And I mean, if you are willing to take the risk, then go ahead and gamble on and I'd rather go on work on something that I know is going to be around for a while and especially if it's a client or something that's really important. That's making me money. I don't want to lose it. Agreed.

Do You Have Any Case Studies That RYS Stacks Benefit Authority Sites In Broad Niches?

Okay, next is I am building out an authority site and health niche. It seems that our wise stacks are geared towards local GMB assets. Do you have any case studies that are wise tax benefit authority sites and broad niches? Well, they most certainly do. You know, Marco always says local is relative. Right? So it really, you know, we have been pushing because there was a wide-open loophole guys, for the last year, really, because it was July of last year that the loophole opened up for GMB stuff that is now being shut, which is what we've been talking about today. But you know, for a year, that's why we really shifted our focus because there was a wide-open opportunity, and we will want to exploit it. And that's what we did. But now that loophole is closing, but RYS was actually built the that was developed that that that strategy, that method was developed not strictly for local at all. Ok. So again, probably because we had been touting GMB stuff for the last year. That's why it may seem that way. But that's that is absolutely not the case. Like in other words, RYS drive stacks can push authority into national global sites, national sites, you know, regional sites, whatever you want. Your local is relative. And that's what Marco always says. So Marco, how would you best explain to him?

Marco: Yeah. I can't go into that I'm not going to reveal anything that I'm working on, you know how difficult it is, especially if it's making money because people will try to go and tear it down, spam it, reverse engineer it and then say they did it. So I don't like revealing any particulars of what I'm doing. As Bradley said, your local is relative. And the only difference between a local niche and something national, global, regional, whatever it is, is the way that you approach it. It's the way that you approach the entity. We teach all that RYS Academy Reloaded or if you order a done for you are is that you will get the done for you user's guide that tells you what to do. We've also died also done countless webinars on entities and iframes and entity stacking iframe stacking. I did the webinar for the charity right when I was holding the charity drive where I did a series of three webinars where we went over the entire thing and highlight get the most out of a drive stack kit. Think about it just local, are you going to miss the point of what drive stack and G site can actually doing? How it pushes power to the destination and to everything that's attached to it? It misses the bot if you only think of it as local, then that's the only way that is going to work for you. Because you're not thinking outside the box on how you can push that power to whatever it is that you're looking to do.

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Bradley: Yeah, yeah. And again, that's, you know, I certainly understand the reason why somebody might assume that it's only for local in this because that's what we have been talking about how to apply it to local since the local strategy was what we were really pushing for the last year. However, as I said, we have all with what the current statuses, right that whatever the current situation is the environment. And right now, again, I'm not pushing hyperlocal stuff. In fact, I'm working on, you know, my new business model and just maintaining my existing client base right now and looking at different ways to produce results without having to have to rely specifically on hyperlocal stuff as we have been for the last year. So I'm you know, my point is that RYS drive stacks are still absolutely foundational because they're so damn powerful. And what's great about it is they become an SEO firewall, like, we use that as a foundational method, because from there, we can do all of the additional nasty SEO stuff that we want to externally to the actual drive stack and protect our money sites are our primary assets within the drive stack, right. So it's almost like building up a shield around it that then we can do everything nasty we want to to that shield, and it's not going to hurt otherwise, all it does is end up helping it to rank. And we have countless examples of that. My new business model, specifically, I created a new business, like I said, new website, which is actually just Click Funnels page, it's a single landing page. And I'm ranked in the top three for my state now for my primary keyword. And all I've done is I think four or five press releases and a drive stack. And I haven't even built links to the drive stack yet. And so it just goes to show you that it's very, very powerful. And that's why you know, we always suggest that a standard operating procedure, if you haven't gotten a battle plan, go pick up the battle plan, there's the the the banner to go buy it right there. And that explains how and when to use them. Whether it's a local site or national site, it doesn't matter. Okay.

Bradley: Scott's

Marco: By the way, before you go on for the new mastermind project that we have, we will be building an authority site, and it's going to be national. I don't know if that's ever going to get out of that specific group. But it'll be available for anyone who is lucky enough to get in there. At one point or another. We're still working out the details. But we are going to be building a National Authority site to take down the top guy in the niche.

Bradley: I know we will do.

Do You Offer Affiliate Programs Of Your SEO Courses?

The next one is Scott, I think is Scott Walker. He says I belong to a number of groups and get a lot of questions about how to I feel these people really need your courses. How can I become an affiliate? A reach call just contact Support, [email protected]. If you're looking I don't think we have an affiliate program for me. Why be yet but we probably should at some point? We don't?

Marco: I think we do. It's really simple to set up a failure, right to both [email protected] and [email protected], Scott and we'll take care of you Well, we'll figure out how to give you affiliate links so so that you can push our stuff. We don't mind you pushing our stuff.

Bradley: Yeah. And I know we've got affiliate stuff Semantic Mastery training, as far as the done for you products. I wasn't sure but yeah, you know, I'm sure we can get you that too. So absolutely. He says I don't plan on making this a full-time career, but would like a bit of financial incentive for serious referrals. Your courses are still the best bang for the buck. Thanks. Yeah, I thank you. I appreciate that. Scott.

How To Have Access To Bradley's Real Estate Group?

Ernest is up. He says, Hey, Bradley, how do I find out more about the Real Estate Group you have? I'm new to this page and don't know how to access it. Thanks for all the great information. Well, Ernest. That's a great question. So, unfortunately, the accountability group that started as a very small accountability group, it's only available to mastermind members that have expressed an interest in and that's only because it's, it's the first time I'm going to run the accountability group. So I wanted to keep it very small, very exclusive. And part of being in our mastermind is that our mastermind members always get the first opportunity at these sort of things. Beta testing, for example, they get the first opportunity for new training that we release, or new small groups like this, like the one that I'm talking about. So, unfortunately, it's not something I can share with the greater public right now. Or the broader public, I should say, we at some point, it may be something that we present outside of the mastermind, but I can't guarantee that I can't tell you when that's going to happen or even if it will happen. So, unfortunately, if you want more x, more information specifically about my accountability group, you have to be in the mastermind. However, that said, I do feel strongly enough about my new business model that I am willing to share where you can learn about the actual business, you won't have the account access to the accountability group with me, and my partners, and all this cool stuff that we're doing to help our members get very profitable very quickly. I've been very fortunate with this new business in the last three months and done very, very well very quickly. And it's because of our I think it's because of our ability, like our knowledge. And I'm not saying me specifically, but just like us as a group, like we know, and you included, you're on this hump day hangout webinars, so you have access to a wealth of knowledge just from us in our Semantic Mastery YouTube Channel, as well as probably other groups and things like that. And the new business model that I'm in is primarily being as being like the competition is primarily using traditional marketing methods like direct mail and stuff, and don't get me wrong, I'm doing that too. And it works. But knowing what we know about digital marketing, and being able to apply that to this business that is virtually uncompetitive, compared, you know, relative to digital marketing, it's giving me like an unfair advantage, a competitive edge over most of the other people competing in this space. And it's not an overcrowded business space anyways. And so again, I think that I feel strongly enough about this. And I've done so well, so quickly with this, that I don't mind sharing this URL with you guys to go check it out. Because I learned from this guy, he's got a great course.

And I'm going to post the link here, and the course is called, there's a webinar for it specifically if you want to, and I posted the link to the webinar, so you guys can get an idea anybody that's interested in what the new business model is, I'm flipping vacant land. So it's kind of like flipping houses, but I'm flipping vacant land, it's kicking ass. It's a relatively uncompetitive business, especially if you know digital marketing, and you know how to apply digital marketing principles to the business, you can absolutely crush it. You know, I can't, I can't tell you that you're going to repeat my results. But I pretty much I feel very strongly that most people, especially in our group could, because of like, I guess said how, how quickly, I've been able to get, like, make serious, serious money with this business, and just a few months. So again, the course is fantastic guys go to semanticmaster.com/LPG webinar, that's LPG dash webinar that stands for land profit generator webinar, the guys from Austria or Germany, excuse me, his name's Jack Bosch, it's he's kind of a goofy guy, but he's great. He's a great teacher and instructor, he's got a great course, if you go to the webinar, it's obviously going to pitch you the course at the end. But it's exactly what I took and went through. And it took me one month to go through the course and set up my will because we know, we know marketing guys, right? You know, everybody on this webinar knows how to set up a landing page. So I spent a month going through the prop product there the training, and then I set up a landing page and kind of developed out my SEO plan. And my ads plan because I'm using paid traffic to. And within my first month, you know, a month later I started my marketing. And within my first month, I landed my first deal and make $15,000. Again, I cannot say that you guys are going to make that kind of money. But it's very, very possible. And since then I've closed several other deals and made many 10s of thousands of dollars on top of that. So it's a great, great course, this is not an affiliate webinar or guys, and I'm not trying to pitch you on this for any other reason other than I think there's a lot of opportunity in this business for digital marketers, that a lot of the people actually competing in that space, really have no clue how to implement what we do you know what I mean. And so I think there's a lot of opportunities there. So again, if you ever wanted to come to join the accountability group that I'm hosting, where we have a small group, and where we've got like a slack, slack group, you know, Slack channel, where we can communicate in real time, we're holding weekly accountability meetings where we discuss current events within the business and like current deals that are pending, and that kind of stuff, you have to be part of the mastermind to get that.

So, anyway, it's pretty exciting guys, I'm really, really, really excited about this business, something I haven't been this excited about a long time, because it's not the typical cat and mouse game with Google that I've been playing for 10 years now. You know, it's, in fact, it's a breath of fresh air because it's, you know, I can very, very quickly have been able to generate a lot of leads for my own business, my own real estate business now, using the principles that we know. And it's almost like I said, the competition is almost nonexistent my SEO, I'm already in the top three for my primary keywords for the state of Virginia, which is I'm into, I'm targeting the entire state of Virginia. And I'm in the top three for with within what, two, two and a half months, with just a handful of press releases in a DR stack, and a single page landing page. It's It's incredible. And I'm getting leads every single week, eight to 10 leads every week just from Google and a couple from Facebook, actually. And then I'm doing some direct mail. So it's crazy. But you know, I get 25 to 30 leads per week and about a third of them come from Google and Facebook. Just from our you know, organic stuff, really, and some paid traffic to. So it's a great business model, go check it out, you'll get to see what it's all about. And if you really want to get in on the accountability group, then come join the mastermind and you have an opportunity there. All right. Great question, though. Ernest, thank you for asking.

What Are Your Thoughts On Google Site Kit?

Next one says, ran across a WordPress plugin called Google Site kit made by Google, really a WordPress plugin made by Google No shit. Okay to connect all Google functions like AdWords analytics to site any thoughts on using a plugin like that? I'm now because I haven't seen it.

Um, I don't see why it would be an issue. I mean, I know some people don't like, like, they think that they want to keep Google out of their site. But trust me, Google knows everything about your site. Well, regardless. It's funny because I remember a few years ago, people would say that they wouldn't put analytics on the site or, or submit the site to search console. What used to be Google Webmaster Tools, because they didn't want Google knowing what was going on with their site. Yet they'd have a WordPress site with Google Fonts installed. Or, you know what I mean, it would they'd access it from Chrome, you know, so it didn't make any sense to me. But, uh, you know, I don't see anything wrong with it. Marco, do you have any thoughts on that?

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Ah, you know, me, I hate giving Google more information than they need. I don't know if I'm going to be putting all that together. Although Yeah, if you already have analytics and search console, by all means. If you're using AdWords and YouTube might as well because they're already on your website anyway. But if you don't, and you don't want to get it. There are websites that I simply refuse to let Google into, then they are you going to have to make that choice? Do you let them in? Or do you not?

That's interesting. I might actually play with that. I might even put that on my new. No, that's just a minute. Well, I've got a blog set up on a subdomain for my new business, I might put this on that. So I can play around with this plugin a little bit. I've never cared guys, I'm not gonna lie. I've never given a shit about it. Because I always submit everything to search console so that it can get indexed quicker and everything anyway, so I know everybody teaches their own, but I've never had any issues with that. I like to use analytics. I'm not an analytics nerd, but I do like the data that it provides. So you know, honestly, and I and I put, I put the Google Tag Manager and the remarketing tag on everything now because if you're not using remarketing, and the Google Display Network for remarketing, you're out of your mind, you're missing out on a lot of additional traffic, because it's and it's very inexpensive. So to run remarketing and retargeting, it's remarketing on Google retargeting on Facebook, but I run a lot of remarketing ads for clients as well as lead gen assets. And my new business as well, just because once people land on the side if they haven't converted, why not continue to market to them until they do convert? Or until they get annoyed? Which I don't care. So anyway, but that's pretty cool. I'm going to actually install that.

Chris: There is also one more thing that many people never think about. So if the site before you has like Google tools installed into the site after you as Google tools installed, Google knows exactly like when the past it's going, you know, like users going. So you can hardly like to eliminate Google at all. If you want to hide.

Bradley: Yeah, it's very difficult. Because Google owns the internet, or a big, big part of it anyways.

Would It Be Difficult To Rank A GMB Listing Organically If You Don't Set Up A Related Listing?

Anyway, next is Gordon, what's up, Gordon? He says, Hey, guys, thanks again for helping us, customers. Your generosity is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Gordon. He says last week, someone asked a question about whether or not it was more difficult to rank a new site for local business niche and location if you didn't want to set up a related GMB listing but your answer was about local organic rankings in general and did not address the GMB question. If you want to rank a new site for a local business niche location, if you didn't want to set up a related can be listed but your answer was about local organic rankings in general and did not address the GMB question. Okay. I'm not sure how those are two separate things. But could you please comment on whether it's more difficult or the same difficulty to organically rank a new site locally without setting up a related gym be listening? I think you misunderstood my explanation. So I'm going to try to explain it again. But it's going to be the same explanation. So I may, maybe, maybe Marco can chime in here in just a moment and rewarded or convey what I'm trying to convey in a different way that makes more sense to you. But it's the same answer that I'm going to give you before the problem with ranking a local site, or a site for local keywords is that in the organic section, instead of in maps, is that you're competing with a lot of directory style sites now, which are highly authoritative, highly or, you know, very aged domain, typically, which carry a lot of inherent authority. And it's very difficult to outrank them, depending on the locations, you know, obviously, if it's more of a smaller area, then you can typically get much better results because they're not, if you're targeting like neighborhoods or suburbs, those kinds of things, you're you can usually get much, much faster results similarly to what you could within maps, but I'm talking about in the organic section, because a lot of times the directory sites are not optimized for any of those smaller areas, right, that they're optimized for the greater metropolitan area, right, which is an all-encompassing type of keyword, location, keyword, location modifier, so to speak. But when you're talking about trying to rank organically for like, again, I'm going to use Fairfax, Virginia, because that's a big area. very competitive SEO area for SEO in Virginia. So Fairfax, Virginia, if you're trying to rank for like plumber or plumbing contractor, Fairfax, Virginia, again, and I'll just approve it, you know, we'll go just do a quick search if I said, you know, plumbing contractor, and I always use contractors, guys, but that's because that's primarily what I've done for the last 10 years. If I say, Fairfax, plumbing, Fairfax County plumbing contractor, excuse me, Fairfax VA, what do you see here? Yelp, home advisor, branding.

Go ahead. Even before you get to the organic tea, scroll back Oh, look, right. You got Well, this. It depends on the industry, but Google guarantee. No, but yes, yeah. Then ads, then.

Yeah. And then what do you get, then you get three directories in a row, then you get a company that's been around for a long damn time, John C Floods a big contractor up in that area, then you get another director directory, then another really aged authority if type site that company has been around, then another directory, you see what I'm saying about this? out of the top 10, it looks like seven of them. And the organic section which is already buried by Google guarantee. ads and maps. It looks like seven out of the top 10. organic rankings are of other directories. So again, I'm not talking about GMB stuff. I'm talking about organic rankings. Can you rank a local a site for local terms in the organic section? Yes, but it's a dogfight is what I'm telling you. Yes, you can. And it depends on the location modifier the that you're trying to rank for. Right? If you're Fairfax is a broad that cut because Look, listen, like in this example. Fairfax is a county, Fairfax as a county, but it's also there's the city of Fairfax, too. But there are 23 locations within Fairfax County like Vienna and oak 10 in Tysons Corner. And so trying to rank for those would be much easier, it's still relatively hard or difficult. But trying to rank for a plumbing contractor, Vienna, Virginia is going to be easier than trying to rank for plumbing contractor Fairfax because that's essentially targeting the whole county or the city. But either way, it's basically one and the same, they're synonymous. Right. So my point is, it's very, very difficult to do that. And that's because Google is for whatever reason, they're promoting index pages of other directories on their primary index page, page one, which remember, Google is nothing other than an index of listings. And so all and when what happens when you click through to this, it's an index page on Yelp, for plumbers in Fairfax, which I think is stupid. Like you go from one index to another. I think that's dumb, but it is what it is. And so again, like I said, That's why I have I've shifted years ago, I shifted away from ranking, trying to rank organically through just sticking to maps, because again, look at it like that, that always came up first, it tended to be a lot easier to rank for maps than it did for organic. But yet, can it be done? Yes. But you're in for a dogfight. That's all I'm saying. So I don't know if I explained that any differently than I did last week. Marco, do you want to take a stab at it?

Marco: No, that was perfect. That's all I added to what you said was the amount of power that you'd have to push. I mean, how do you explain the amount of power to take down Yelp? And the amount of work that you have to do? And is it going to be worthwhile going for that? It could be for your contractor, but you may not be getting paid enough to get you paid back for the work that you have to do to get there. I know that you have to push massive amounts of power. We have ways where you can push massive amounts of power, but it's going to require more money than most local people are willing to pay.

Bradley: That's correct. That's the point with the right budget, then yeah, you could do it. There's no question. But a lot of times trying to, you know, like, because of these like the plumbers here that I'm talking about, like John C Flood and FH for their well, big established companies, that they've got a lot big. They've got deep marketing budgets, like deep pockets, you know what I mean? So, you know, if you're trying to get your foot in the door with a smaller company, a newer company, whatever, that's got a smaller marketing budget, there's really no way to compete with that. I mean, you can, but it's going to take a lot of time and a lot of effort. And it's not going to again, Marcos correct, absolutely correct. They're likely, it's weird how they turned to blackmail, but they're likely not going to have, you know, pay you enough for the amount of effort that you're putting in. So it makes sense. And if they give you a small, if you have a smaller budget to work with, then it could possibly still be done. But it's going to require more time because you're going to have to stretch, you know, do a little bit at a time because that's all the budget allows. And chances are you're going to lose the client before you ever get them to reach because it's taking too long. But it's hard to explain. I know because especially again, I don't know that you're dealing with contractors, but I've dealt with a lot of smaller contractors, in fact, that was my primary client base for the last 10 years is smaller contractors. And so it's difficult to, you know, explain to a contractor, and it's like banging your head against the wall when you say, Listen, if you want to get results really, really quickly, I'm going to need more money. They say I don't, I don't have any more money. But I want you to give me results right away. If you got me results, I'd have more money. Well, I can't get your results without more money. And it's like, you know who's on first, you know what I mean? It's that whole chicken and the egg type thing cart before the horse and that kind of stuff. So, again, I don't know if I explained anything different. But um, there you go.

What Do You Think Are The Niches That Have A Lot Of Spam Listings That Trigger Google's Suspension?

Based on your experience, what are the niches in addition to pest control that you believe Google thinks has a lot of spam listings, and that Google may have a trigger finger for regarding their suspension tirade for just editing, listening? Thanks, again. You know, Marco, and I actually talked about this just briefly right before the Hangout today. And it's hard to say I mean, there are certainly that some that are more known to be spammy than others. pest control is definitely one of them. I know that for a fact, garage, like overhead garage doors is another one that's incredibly spammy. And so you know, that I know that one would be one that I'd stay away from locksmiths, I believe is another one. So there's a number of them that are there. But as far as you know, I don't know because right now, Gordon, a lot of the, like Google's on a tirade period. And as Marco said, it's like somebody firing an Uzi. Why would you ever want to stick your head up? And it's almost like, I think anything's a target right now. I don't know that to be sure. Because I've stayed out of intentionally I've stayed out of a lot of the GMB listings recently, for even my clients other than just doing GMB posts, specifically for that reason, because I don't want to stick my head up. That makes sense. But so, you know, again, we don't work for Google. So I can tell us specifically which niches are worse than others. I do know some that have historically been spammy and pest control is one of them. So I probably should have kept my ass out of my clients' pest control. But it's such an established site. We've never done you know, business and we like free for seven years. I've never done anything spammy. All I did was change, deleted an image of a photo, uploaded a couple of new photos and published the GMB website because, for whatever reason, it had been created, but was never published. And I click the Publish button and boom, suspended. And that was two over two weeks ago now is about Yeah, it was just like, I don't know, 1718 days ago now 17 1717 or 18 days ago now and it's still suspended. So again, I don't recommend really doing a whole lot in GMB. If you can get away with it. Marco made a good point last week where he said if you if you're just got a new listing verified, you can make all your changes right away that does make sense as likely won't get suspended because it's new, you've got to you got it up, you know, kind of updated that kind of stuff. But if it's been established, I'd keep your ass out of it for right now. Honestly.

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Marco: Yeah, and I'm trying to do and to clear that up. Once you get it back, I think maybe the I didn't communicate that correctly. Get all of your edits and all of your work done before you send for the pin, get as much information in there as possible images, videos, however much of the information what we teach it in Local GMB Programs, I'm not going to go through everything that you can do for the listing. But once it comes back to the there should be no reason for you to touch it, because everything is then correct already. And then you can just concentrate on the next part of local GMB Pro, which is post images post posting in a certain way. Your images, your images have to be done, right. They have to be done correctly, we show how to get images we show it all. But the whole point is, once you've sent for that pin, and you verify it, don't touch the fucking thing. Don't do anything, leave it because now you're taking a tense at at at at getting suspended. And that's that said this for now. It might change. Yeah, we don't know when we don't know how long we don't know which niches and which ones are going are still going to have that hair trigger. We just don't know. Yeah, sometimes I wish I were a fly on the wall of Google GMB to know what the hell is going on because there's no rhyme or reason to what they're doing.

What DYF Schema Markup Creation Do You Recommend?

Correct. Next one's from Scott again. He says a few weeks ago, you mentioned service for done for you schema markup creation. I have a multi-location client and my schema markup needs some major help. Would you please give us the name and the URL again? Thanks. Yeah, it was Ryan Rodan, he was a mastermind member for quite some time. And he got really, really geek out on schema. And he really did. And so like he created a certain he ended up because he got so good at it. And he had so many people asked, I'm all the time like for help with their schema, he decided to create this. And I'm assuming he still does it. I haven't talked to him in probably two years now. But it's skeema.pro. And it's spelled instead of the way that schema is really spelled he spells it's skeema.pro. So just go to Skeema Pro. And you can check out a schema code order structured data overhaul, he's got several he's got, you know, the guy knows what he's doing, at least he did two years ago. And as long as he's still staying up to date with what's going on, which is geek out as he was about schema back then I'm assuming that he is still up to date, or he's staying on top of that stuff. But just reach out to him. Tell him that we sent you. We don't get any affiliate referral or anything for that. But it's always good too, you know, give credit to people that refer business. So check it out skeema.pro, and that's spelled, SKEEMA Pro. Right.

How Would You Setup A Schema Page For An Industry With Lots Of Q&As?

Fitz is up. He says Good afternoon, gents. Thanks for allowing this forum to continue. It is greatly appreciated. My question today is Google loves QA should we add a single question and answer to one-page post? For the website? I asked because the new schema requirement is to only have one q&a per page, but in an industry with a good number of Q and A's. Do you put only one page for 10 or more pages? Do you think that is valuable? Okay.

Bradley: I'm not I had always lumped similar questions together. And q&a post guys are great content for blog posts, and then you could break them out as individual like GMB posts. You can create a syndicate, you know, blog posts with them, that kind of stuff. But my point is, q&a posts are great. And a lot of times and I've talked about this in syndication Academy, I can go over it just now we don't have enough time. I was gonna say I can go over briefly. But we only got five minutes, I show you some ideas on how to do that. But I had always lumped similar questions together on the same page. However, if the new schema requirement is to only have one q amp a per page, then yeah, I mean, I don't see why not. I would just do it as blog posts. Right, I would do short blog posts and mark each blog posts. So no, I wouldn't dedicate a whole page to it. If you're going to have a page, I would have q amp a, you know, grouped in similar questions into groups and separate and different headings sections, right header sections within the page. And then even then you can create a table of contents with jump links. And again, can't get into that, because Margot, kill me. But you can do things for that page to make them more powerful too. But what I would do is for the blog posts, yeah, I would mark up blog posts with individual Q&A markup, right, that's what I would do. And in fact, you could even probably link from the page where you group them together with within certain headings and that kind of stuff, then you could probably link the individual Q and A's to blog posts. And again, fits in fewer in the mastermind, which I think you're trying to get back in Actually, I heard something about that. We can go much more into depth on how you can get the most power out of that same setup that I was just mentioning, and specifically how to structure the linking the internal linking from within that site because you got to do it a very specific way. Now, Marco just revealed in the mastermind recently about certain things that have changed recently that pertain to internal linking that we'd have to cover in the mastermind. So all right, I think we're just about out of questions. And we're almost out of time.

Should You Include The Geolocation Of The Photo For A New GMB Listing?

Justin says for new GMB, would you include geolocation information in the photo files? Or do you think that's spamming? No, I would absolutely include that. Because here's the thing, if you're taking photos, like if, if the business owner, so to speak, was taking photos from a mobile device, with GPS enabled, which almost all of them are, that's going to have that embedded information by default anyway. And if they're uploading it to their own GMB listing, then it would see that if customers are uploading photos, remember, like for stores and places, as you know, I'm a Google local guy, you know, I do a review, I don't do it all the time. But when I think about it, if I'm at a restaurant, or if I'm in a hotel or something, and I and I think about reviewing it, then I'll take a photo and upload that with my review. And guess what, it's got my GPS, my access data, right? My geolocation, geo metadata is it is embedded in that file. And that then gets uploaded to that GMB listing by as a customer photo, right. So, by the way, that's if you're going to be doing a lot of uploads to a GMB right now, I wouldn't do it as an owner, I would do it as a customer. So you could do that through persona, email, persona Gmail accounts, guys, you know, persona profiles, Google profiles that you set up, so that you're you don't trigger a suspension from uploading photos, I haven't heard of anybody actually will actually Marco had one that was triggered from uploading a photo. But if you upload as a, if you upload a photo to a GMB listing as a customer, then Google can't suspend the listing as far as I know. Now, you know, as far as I know, I haven't heard of that happening. But I have heard of uploading a photo as the business owner, so from within the GMB dashboard, and it causing a suspension. I haven't experienced that myself yet, yet. But a customer photo wouldn't do that. So again, think about that. It's not spammy at all. Now, if it's an image that Google knows is on the web, which Google's image recognition is incredibly good, and all you did was change the metadata, then that could perhaps look spammy. And that might be something that triggers trouble in the future, I haven't seen it trigger anything right now. But a quick way to determine that guys, as you can always go to 10, nine, calm is one of them.

There are probably other ones at Google, I think even has its own image recognition engine that you can play with, I think Marco shared that in RYS or something. But tonight, calm is free. And you can just actually go grab the image and drop it in here. You can even take them if it's already on the web, you can take the URL and drop it in here. Or you can just actually take the photo from your country from your, you know, your file system on your computer and upload it. And it'll tell you if that image has already been indexed on the web. And I will show you where if it has been. Right. And again, 10 is not as good as Google with that, but it's, it still will give it So again, if you're just taking an image that's already been used on the web and changing the exit data, then you know, that may cause an issue in the future. I haven't seen it cause any issues currently. Although it's not as effective either, though, just keep that in mind. And we've proven that. Alright.

Want to keep that tab open. So I want to check that out. All right.

Let's see. Thanks for your answers before thanks so much for the information off topic, but I'm in Richmond VA today from a totally familiar those areas mentioned. Okay, so he's talking about like Fairfax and all that. Yep. Alright, guys. Well, we appreciate y'all being here. mastermind webinar is tomorrow. For those of you that are in the mastermind, and thanks, everybody for sticking around. You guys. All hung out. Thanks.

Whoo, you all right, man.

See you guys tomorrow. Then.

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Do Semantic Mastery RYS Stacks Add More Value To An Existing Syndication Network & GMB Page?

By April

In episode 232 of the weekly Hump Day Hangouts by Semantic Mastery, one viewer asked if Semantic Mastery's RYS stacks add more value to an existing syndication network and GMB page.

The exact question was:

Marco: I have a RYS Stack order pending….When creating a RYS Stack, I have my syndication network complete and my GMB URL done, would it add more value when I have you build my RYS stack? – Thank you Wil Chirinos

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Should You Change The Links To A New G-Site Page To Link Back To New Drive Stack Folder Files?

By April

In episode 218 of the weekly Hump Day Hangouts by Semantic Mastery, one viewer asked if one should change the links of the new GSite page to link back to new drive stack folder files.

The exact question was:

Hi Folks,

I did the following with my DFY RYS stack to increase its power:

1. Created a new Folder on the main drive stack

2. Copied all the files and folders from the original main drive stack and put them in the new folders.

3. Created a new G site page for the new folder.

Questions:

1. Do the links on the new Gsite page have to be changed to link back to the new drive stack folder files? or can they continue to link to the original main drive stack files and folders?

2. Do you recommend I make any other changes to the new folders, files, and G site combination to turn on the ranking power?

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Is There Any Value In Putting An RYS Stack On An Authority Site With Curated Content?

By April

In episode 218 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked if there is a value in putting an RYS stack when using curated content to build an authority site.

The exact question was:

Hi Bradley, Guys,

1) If I am building an Authority site for a niche using curated content, is there any value in putting an RYS stack on it? Does an RYS stack help the long tail rankings that I'm shooting for with an Authority site that builds up a lot of content, or is it something that is mainly of benefit for Local SEO?

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Is It Okay To Set One Of Your Syndication Networks, RYS Stacks & Press Release Orders In Motion Before Launching The HTTPS Version Of A Site?

By April

In episode 216 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked if it is okay to set one of Semantic Mastery's syndication networks, RYS stacks and press release orders in motion before launching the HTTPS version of a site.

The exact question was:

Also, I am working on an https version of a website for a client that hasn't switched over from the http version yet, but will soon. Is it ok to set one of your Syndication Networks, RYS Stacks and Press Release orders in motion before I actually launch the https version?

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Is There Any Benefit Of Creating And Building RYS Stacks In GSuite?

By April

In episode 216 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked if there is any benefit of creating and building RYS stacks in GSuite.

The exact question was:

For the purposes of building out RYS stacks, is there any benefit to creating an account in GSuite and building the stack there? IE, mydomain.com – MyDomain | Domain Names, Web Hosting, and Free Domain Services has an account for [email protected] SM does their magic in this account versus going through the process of creating new gmail account.

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Weekly Digital Marketing Q&A – Hump Day Hangouts – Episode 217

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Announcement

Adam: We are live! Welcome everybody the Hump Day Hangouts Episode 217, also known as the first Hump Day Hangouts of 2019. I gotta get used to saying that. I always screw it up for the first two or three weeks. Anyways, thanks for joining us. We got almost full crew here today, so I'm gonna go down the line here and say hello, do some quick introductions, and then we will get into it. Chris, you're first on my list today here. How are you doing?

Chris: Doing good. Woo-hoo to the New Year!

Adam: Are you back home or are you still up in the mountains, or where you at?

Chris: Back home at the moment. I gotta crank up and start the year productive like most people. How about you?

Adam: Yeah. I had these grand plans, you know. I took last week completely off, went almost off the grid, not completely but tried to stay away from the computer and all that jazz. Then, Sunday, I got sick. I had awesome week planned, all the stuff to do, I was gonna get right back into it, I was excited, and then it's just been like, motivation has been down here. So, it's turning into an inconvenient two-week vacation, so we'll see how it goes.

Anyways, Marco how about you? How are you doing?

Marco: I'm talking to a muted mic. What's up, man? Doing good. Starting off the new year really good, ton of projects. As you know, we got a whole bunch of awesome things coming to MGYB and coming to first and foremost our Mastermind members, and then it goes to everyone else, our followers and all other members then get access before it goes public. Membership has its privileges, as we always say.

Another thing that I'm really looking forward to is on the 14th. Guys, mark it on your calendar, Monday, January 14th, 3 p.m. Eastern, I'm doing an Entity webinar. There's a caveat: the only way that you can have access to that webinar is by donating to my charity. I'm calling it “The Endgame.” What this is all about, what other people just refuse to tell you because they want to give you information piecemeal and they want to lead you down the road but they don't want you to have all of the information. What I'm doing is, I'm giving everyone all of the information. I'm giving everybody the why these all take place. That's The Endgame. What we're after so that Google can give you all the love possible.

That's on, again, Monday, January 14th at 3:00 p.m. Eastern. It's The Endgame. The Entity Webinar. Donate. It's for a good cause.

Adam: Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. We'll have some more information about how you can do that shortly. Starting next week, we'll give out information to everybody so you can get on that. You definitely do not want to miss out on that.

Real quick, Bradley, how are you doing?

Bradley: I'm great, man. You said that you screw up for a couple weeks 2019.

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Adam: Yeah.

Bradley: I always screw up when I'm writing a check. You know what I mean?

Adam: Right.

Bradley: That's where I always screw up and then I have to either scribble it out and initial it or void the check and write a new one. It always pisses me off. I'd do that for the first whole month really. But other than that, yeah, I'm really excited too. We're gonna hit 2019 running. We've got major big goals that were working on currently, GMB asset building and all that kind of stuff, and we're looking to really provide more and more Done-For-You services in MGYB. A lot of those are in development now, training virtual assistants in order to be able to fulfill those services for you, guys.

We just got a lot of stuff coming up. It's gonna be a really good year. As Marco said, the Mastermind members, we've kind of restructured that as well. We have clear direction this time. Finally, after all these years, I think we've got a really clear direction for new members, whether you're starting out or already got a business and you're just trying to scale it and grow it. It's just really a lot of good things that we are implementing this year. So, looking forward to it. This is the start of a big sprint for the next 12 months.

Adam: Definitely, We'll do our own break it down, do it 90 days, and then down to the week, and then day-by-day. Right? Good deal. I want to say thank you to everybody who took us up on some great offers over the holidays, whether it's MGYB sales and then those of you who decided to join the Mastermind, that's awesome. We're really glad to have you guys in there and getting through that. Really awesome that we had everyone do that. That's a great investment for 2019.

With that said, if you're new to Semantic Mastery and you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, I want to first say thanks for watching, whether you're watching us live or you're catching the replay, come check these out, whether you're in our Mastermind or you're not, you're in different groups or not, just come ask these questions, be part of the community, get your questions answered every week. You can always go to semanticmastery.com/hdquestions, like I said, if you're watching the replay, even though you post them on the page, you can come back and check out the replay, if you're traveling or whatever the deal is you can't watch us live.

If you're also wondering where to start with us, Battle Plan is the place to start. Just go to battleplan.semanticmastery.com. That'll fill you in on the rest of the details. It's repeatable processes to get you results. All right. That's the bottom line.

If you're already in digital marketing, you're in the local game, you want to really take things up, you want to be part of like-minded community, then the Mastermind is the place to be. You can find out more about that at mastermind.semanticmastery.com. Alrighty.

Let me check my notes here. I've got a little bit of a head cold that's messing with me and slowing me down here. I did wanna mention something coming up next week. For those of you who remember in … Bradley, was that October or November when the Side Hustle Toolbox came out, the Stack?

Bradley: Yes.

Adam: Yes. It was in the fall time frame.

Bradley: Yeah.

Adam: Those guys have put together another one and they asked me to contribute, so I was happy to do that. Carey put together one info stack and it's more around productivity mindset, self-development kind of area, the idea of being start 2019 off to a good start. I've gotten a sneak peek at some of the stuff that's in there. It looks like some really good stuff. I'm happy with the one I made, the short course I put together for it, basically about freeing a lot of your time and how you can literally create about 115 hours out of 30 minutes over the next year. So, stuff like that.

If you're looking to really make some improvements, whether it's your business, your life, relationships, whatever it is in 2019, this is gonna be something cool that we're gonna share with everybody. Just like the last one, there's several thousands of dollars worth of products that they're putting together and then you get access to it all for just a ridiculously low price. I don't know exactly what that's gonna be it, but I believe the one we took part in was like 47 bucks.

Bradley: Yeah. It was there was over $4,000 worth of training, products and courses and stuff, and Side Hustle Toolbox is what it was called. I think with the coupon that they had during the launch week and all that, you get it for basically at 50 bucks, so it's ridiculous.

Adam: Yeah, just a big value bomb. We'll be sharing that information with everybody. It's something I talk about too, with all of these, it's like take the best, leave the rest. Any one of these things is worth $47. So, if you look through it and you think that one of them is worth it, grab it. Don't get lost in it. Pick the top ones, the ones you think are gonna help you go through it, put it to use. Don't worry about drowning in too much. Just grab it, pick the ones that are gonna work for you, put it to use it, and move forward.

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Cool. All right, guys. Anything else?

Marco: Subscribe to our YouTube channel, please.

Bradley: There you go.

Marco: It's free.

Bradley: Yeah. We recently just passed 6,000 subscribers and those are organic subscribers. We appreciate you guys subscribing in the channel. Yes, definitely subscribe if you haven't already where you get notified, we chop these up Hump Day Hangouts up into individual Q&A videos and post them out too. It's funny, we looked in the dashboard-, excuse me, I was looking … I think I'm gonna pull it up right now. Stand by for a minute because I think this is crazy. I was in the Analytics the other day for our channel. Yeah, we've got 2,590 videos in our channel. That's crazy.

By the way, in case you guys didn't know, you can go to our channel youtube.com/semanticmastery and then use the channel search feature and type in your question. A lot of times you'll find an answer because we previously answered it on Hump Day Hangouts. Since we put timestamps in the video descriptions of the Hump Day Hangouts and then we also chop up the individual Q&As, a lot of the times you'll just go to you find, the channel search function will lead you directly to an answer. In case you weren't aware of that, you may wanna check that out too.

All right. If that's cool, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and jump into questions. Is everyone good?

Adam: Let's do it.

Does The MYGB Service Able To Verify GMB Listings In Germany?

Bradley: All right. Okay, cool. Dustin or Da B is up. He says, “Jo Bros.” He must have meant “yo,” I don't know. Anyways, he says, “Happy New Year. I would like to know if you are also able to verify GMB listings in Germany with the MGYB service.” I can't answer that. Marco, can you?

Marco: As far as I know we can verify just about anywhere in the world. The European Union is a little problematic. Your best bet is to write to [email protected] and they will give you the right answers.

What Is Your Recommended Off-Page Strategy For A Small Affiliate Site Dedicated To Reviewing One Product?

Bradley: There you go. Sam's up. What's up, Sam? He says, “Happy New Year. I'm going to make a small affiliate site dedicated to reviewing one product. It's for launch-jacking but I want it to rank long-term too. Can you advise on off-page strategy for this type of site? IFTTT Network + RYS Stack? Thanks.”

Well, I don't really do much affiliate stuff anymore and when I did, I mean, I … It's kind of hard, in my opinion. Again, I'm not gonna be the best one to give you advice on affiliate stuff because I just don't do much of it. But I can tell you affiliate site for just one product, I don't think is the best idea, Sam. Only because you gain more traction over time with a site that you're gonna continually post to and update.

Unless you're gonna be continually updating this one small affiliate site, as you mentioned, about one product, if you're gonna continue to add content to it, then it would make sense to have like a syndication network because you'd be constantly adding, publishing content, reviewing products, or whatever. That's why I said … Let me back up for a minute.

Typically, some of the best affiliates that I've met, like for example, Jeff Lenny, Jeff Lenny is a really good affiliate marketer, okay, I'm not sure if you're familiar with Jeff Lenny, but he's somebody that you could model. He's got basically an authority type review site that he's built for reviewing products and such. That's typically how I've seen most people get long-term traction with affiliate sites, especially if you're just reviewing products, is to create some sort of product review site that you're gonna continually update. That's gonna keep it fresh. That's gonna help you to develop authority over time.

The problem with a single product-type site is that it's hard to build authority with that and it's also hard to continue content marketing about that one particular product, so they don't ever really gain a lot of authority. Now, depending on how competitive it is, you may be able to just throw up a one page site or whatever and rank it and do very, very well, especially with launch-jacking because it's a new product. It typically means there's not a lot of competition because the product name is a new name, or there's not a lot of competition for it yet.

But that's why I'm saying, again when I was doing launch-jacking stuff, we were able to get some really good traction with just YouTube videos and Press Releases. Press Releases were one of the big parts of it. But we did a lot of YouTube spam and Press Releases and RYS Stacks. Yeah, drive stacks work great for launch-jacking because again they're new terms usually, new search queries that you can optimize for.

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But again, like I said, long-term, if you want it to rank long-term, I would recommend that you go with a branded affiliate site, something you create a brand, it could even be Sam Bailey, you know what I mean? and then just review products consistently. That's how you wind up gaining traction over time.

Again, I'm not gonna be the best person to give you advice on affiliate stuff because I just don't do it. Marco, or anybody, you guys wanna comment on that at all?

Marco: I totally agree with you. Its brand plus keyword association when it comes to a launch-jacking right, and then he wants it long-term, well, it's gonna keep it long-term if Google gives it that association long-term, if it starts to associate the brand with whatever keyword it is that he's pursuing. In this case, it's whatever product or whatever small affiliate that he's trying to do, that's what he's going to have to do.

Now, yeah, of course, RYS is going to work, but you're going to have to keep adding power to that drive stack. You can't just do a simple drive stack and expect that, although it has happened, Virginia SEO.

Bradley: Yeah.

Marco: You can't expect to stay at the top when you have all of these people trying to rank for that and doing things every day to try to take you on. It means that you have to continue adding information and images and video and whatever it takes to stay on top. So, yes, drive stacks, press releases, we've had great success, link building, everything in conjunction.

Bradley: Yeah. Also, one thing you might wanna consider, I had a lot of success with driving traffic, especially for launch-jack using Google Ads, formerly Adwords, because it's a new product. There's a ton of SEOs that … Again, when I did some launch-jacking training for, what we used to have was, we used to have something called the Master Class and I did several launch-jacking projects sites-, campaigns, excuse me, during that training.

We did really well each time we did launch jacking, but one of the things I started to do was set up you-, excuse me, well, YouTube Ads as well, but Google Ads from search and that tends to work really well too because, again I was trying to launch jack affiliate-, excuse me, internet marketing products. So, other training, internet marketing training products, or WordPress plugins, or whatever, just other IM-type products.

You'd end up competing with a bunch of other people trying to launch-jack too and it's a time-consuming process to set up launch-jacking. I even had developed some processes for some VAs and we were targeting various IM products when they would launch. We would publish a press release and all that kind of stuff and it would work fairly well.

But like I said, it was so much easier just to set up a good, what you call the bridge page, don't ever say that to Google Ads though, but it's really a bridge page where you basically set up a landing page that you could do a review of whatever product it is you're trying to promote. Make sure it's a well-done landing page though, that is content-rich, in other words, it could have a video but also have good text on it to where it's not a blatant just affiliate-type page if you're adding value.

Google Ads, they'll suspend an ad if they think that it's a low-quality page or a thin content page that is only used to promote an affiliate link. But I've had many landing pages that were, again they're bridge pages, don't ever say that to Google, but they're bridge pages where all I was doing was promoting an affiliate offer, but I fleshed it out well. Because of that, it would stick and Google Ads would accept it and then I could drive traffic using Google Ads for really inexpensive because it's a new product name, it's a new keyword so there's not a lot of people competing.

Again, for launch-jacking, you'll get a ton of SEO, a lot of IMer's that will try to launch-jack doing various spam and SEO stuff. But very few target using Google Ads, at least in my experience a couple years ago. It's been a couple years since I've done any of this. I found it to be a lot easier and more efficient to skip all the SEO stuff and just set up Google Ads for launch-jacking.

That tended to work really, really well because it I could cut, what used to take me if I was going to develop out the launch-jacking campaign and do all the work myself, which I used to do, it would take me sometimes two days to really develop all the stuff out. I'm talking about the video spam, ordering press releases, setting up a WordPress site, or at least a page or a landing page or whatever. All that kind of stuff was a real pain in the ass to set up.

Then once I trained Vas, even then it was still a lot of work, even if I had a VA that would set up an entire campaign, a launch-jack campaign in a day, I'd still be paying that VA for a day's worth of work. Whereas I could just go into AdWords, or Google Ads now, I could go into Google Ads and set up a campaign in a matter of 20 minutes after I built the landing page and then the traffic could start within hours. Once the ad gets approved, traffic can then start immediately. Then it was just like, as soon as the launch was over or the shopping cart closed or whatever, then I could just turn the ad off and I'm done. You know what I mean? I made my money and I'm good to go.

So, that I found to be more efficient, Sam. What I'm saying is you could do a combination of both. If you're trying to have something that's gonna rank long-term, then I would recommend, like what Marco said, that you're gonna have to have something that you're gonna update with content regularly. That's why I recommend having a syndication network if you're gonna do like a review site where you're gonna review more than one product. But you can jump-start your traffic with Google Ads, at least initially, and get placed right at the top of the page. You might wanna check into that as well. Okay.

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Something else I like about that, Sam. Remember, if you're driving people to a landing page, whether you do it with SEO or Google Ads, always try to build a list too. Instead of just point people from that page direct to the affiliate offer, try to put them through an opt-in gateway somehow so that you can build a list, because you got to think about it.

Also, make sure you're using remarketing, Sam. Even if you decide not to do Google Ads for this affiliate campaign, I would still make sure that you have Google Tag Manager added to your landing page or your site, depending on how you're gonna build it out and make sure that you create a remarketing list because, depending on, if it's an offer that's gonna be an evergreen product or whatever that's available for purchase beyond just the launch window, then you can build a remarketing list even if somebody doesn't opt-in.

If you put an opt-in on the bridge page to try to collect email addresses that you can market to them via email at a later date, that's great, you should still try to do that. But even if you don't get somebody to opt-in, if they land on your page, now you've cookie them and they're on a remarketing list, so you can still market to them. If you know what particular product or service it is that … They landed on that page, there's an interest in that product or service, then you could potentially even serve ads to them via remarketing for other similar type products.

My point is, you absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you should try to collect emails via opt-in if possible. But at the very least, if you're driving traffic, you should be building a remarketing list because that way you can continue to market to that visitor that would have otherwise been a lost visitor if they didn't purchase or opt-in. Does that make sense?

Anyways, definitely, that's a good idea. I'm using remarketing for everything, guys. I love it. It's great. I mean, even for local stuff that I'm doing, remarketing is so powerful, guys, and it's so inexpensive compared to cold PPC.

What Are Your Thoughts On Using Firebase Dynamic Links As Replacement To Soon-To-Be Defunct Goo.gl Shortener?

Steve. Steve says, “Happy New Year and thanks to all Semantic team for these Hump Day Hangouts. Looking forward to another great year.” Thanks, Steve, we appreciate that. “As Google phases out the goo.gl shortener, closing March 30th, their replacement is Firebase Dynamic Links, which, in addition to a link destination, can also have a builtin title, description and image for social media. What are your thoughts on these? Will you use these in place of goo.gl? Are there any SEO advantages from keywords in the title, description or image exif data? Thanks.”

Marco looked into that several months ago or a year ago now when they first announced that Google URL shortener was going to be shutting down eventually. One of the problems with the Firebase links is they are all 302s. Is that correct, Marco?

Marco: Not necessarily.

Bradley: Okay. Can you expand on that a bit?

Marco: Yeah. You can make them 301.

Bradley: Oh, you can?

Marco: You can.

Bradley: Okay. You're short answers today, aren't you?

Marco: Yeah. Go read all of the shit that I read through to find that. I'm not giving it away.

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Bradley: Okay. Well, there you go, Steve. I tried. Yeah, okay. It was my understanding because I remember Marco talking about this. I was unaware that you could make them 301. I'm not sure how you do it, Steve. I have not researched this at all because, as far as I was aware, they were 302 links and I said, “Well, that kills that.” But, yeah, just go do some more research, I suppose. I tried to give you a better answer, Steve. I'm sorry I couldn't.

Marco: Just to add a little bit to that, we're going to have our own shortener in MGYB. It should be ready by Friday. If not, sometime next week. Then, we'll do tests and make it public before Google phases out their shortener and then we'll just power up our own. That's what you should do. I mean, we're not going through Firebase, but Firebase allows you to do that, to set up your own link shortener.

Bradley: There you go. There's some benefits to doing that too because you can power up your domain that way too.

Should You Use One Schema Markup For All Pages Of A Multi-Location Business Or Should Use Specific Schema For Each City Page?

Scott Walker. What's up, Scott? He says, “I have a client whose business has three locations, should I use Schema markup with all locations on all pages then use just the specific Schema for one location on the individual location/city pages?” No, Scott. If you have a business with three locations, there's really one type of markup that you should use, it's what's called “organization markup.” Another substitute that will also work is called “corporation markup.” Either corporation markup or organization markup would be listed on either the site header of the main domain.

Most multi-location businesses are going to have a root domain, right, guys? They're either gonna have location pages for each individual location, which are inner pages of the root domain, or maybe perhaps subdomains with a WordPress installer, an HTML page for each location on subdomains, it's usually gonna be one or the other.

With the organizational/corporation markup, you can put that in the site header, if you're using JSON-LD markup, you can put it in the site header and that can be across, like a global site header. In other words, it goes across all pages, which in organization markup you're talking about the corporation itself, the entity, the main corporate entity, then you can list the individual locations.

But on the individual location pages, whether they're inner pages or on subdomains, however you have that worked out, those should only have local business markup for that particular location. Organization markup can go either globally across the site in the header, except for on individual location pages, or you can just put organization markup on a locations page which lists all of the locations, but then there would be a link that clicks through to the individual location landing page. Or you could have it on a Contact page or an About Us page. That's per Google's recommendations, by the way, guys. So, I would definitely look into that.

Also, there was something else, let me pull this up. I just had this up earlier today. Organization schema, Google, there we go. There's an SEMrush article right here. This is a really good one. This is where I learned, this is actually where I stumbled across the @id page stuff that I basically developed from this article. Way back in February of last year is when I had talked about the local iFrame loop in Syndication Academy. I got that idea, that idea was sparked from this article right here on SEMrush. Okay.

Essentially, if you scroll down here, you'll see there's organization. This is corporation markup here. But then there's the organization markup, which you can select which type, okay, that's how you get a bit more specific. And local business schema, okay, that's where you would go all the way down to the individual location. If you scroll down here, it talks about @id page and all that kind of stuff. This is a really good article. I'm gonna drop this on the page. I would recommend that you spend some time kind of going through here and reading this. Okay.

By the way, Scott, if you're in the Mastermind, which I think you are, Muhammad actually just had posted a very similar question in the Facebook group. I answered it and I gave some live examples there of how I have it on some of my sites. Go check that Facebook group for the Mastermind and you should find that thread and read through it. You'll see some examples of some of my own properties where I have organization markup with individual locations and all that kind of stuff. All right. Keep moving.

Is It Best To Use City+Brand Name When Building Multiple GMB Sites In The Same Geographical Area?

Michael. What's up, Michael? He says, “Happy New Year, Dudes! Short GMB question. If building multiple GMB sites in the same geographical area, and I want to build a brand, is it best to use the city plus brand name in the name so that Google doesn't see it as a spam site? I was going to use the same for each location, but MGYB customer service suggested I not do it that way. How do you do it? Thanks.”

Okay. I'm not sure why that advice was given to you because, if I've got several assets that are in the same city, with the same city name but they may be different zip codes, I'd still use the same name for all locations because the other data points within the NAP are gonna be unique. If you're trying to build a brand, a pseudo brand anyways, then I recommend you keep all the name the same. It makes it easier.

The problem with creating, trying to create a different brand for each location is that it sucks. It's a lot of additional work, right? One of the things I've done, as you probably know, Michael, or anybody that's been through Local Lease Pro or in the Mastermind, they know I'll use a pseudo brand, like Local Tree Pros, for example, or something like that, and then I'll just name it City Tree Pros as the actual location name.

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But if I've got, let's say, three assets in the same city but they're in different zip codes, then I would name it that, let's just say, Cal Pepper Tree Pros, let's use that as an example. There's only one zip code in Cal Pepper, but let's just say that I had three different locations for Cal Pepper Tree Pros. Then what I would do is I would have all three of them named Cal Pepper Tree Pros, but the physical address when the verification occurred to get the GMB verified, the physical address would be unique, the phone numbers are all gonna be unique, the web addresses are all gonna be unique. Even if the name is the same, that's perfectly okay because the other data points are unique.

I'm not sure why MGYB customer support would have said not to do that. That's something, Marco, maybe you and I should chat about with whoever gave that advice because I want to make sure that we are giving a code the standard answer to everybody. Michael, in my opinion, I would still go with the city name-, or excuse me, with just the brand name, or if you're doing city plus brand name, if that's how you're naming your GMB assets, then if you have multiple locations within the same city name, do like I mentioned, you're gonna have unique data points for the NAP other than the name, so it should be okay.

I've never had any issues with that, guys. I've got many, many, many clients as well as lead gen assets out there guys that are multi-location. They share the same name and I've never had any issues with them. The only time that there's issues if you share the same phone number or if you share the same web address. Which, again, I've seen problems where people have multiple locations and they share the home page URL of their website as the landing page URL for their GMB assets. That's wrong. That creates NAP inconsistencies. That ambiguates data and that causes problems.

If you're going to have the same name and you're going to use inner pages, or for example, again, if it was one company and they have just one domain they don't have separate domains for each location, then you should use the location page, which is a separate landing page on the domain for each location, as the website URL in the GMB listing because that makes it a unique URL per listing. Does that make sense?

That's my advice to you, Michael. Marco, do you have any suggestions on that or anything different to say?

Marco: No. It's just the way that Rob recommends it. It's something that we found that works really, really well at just getting tons of calls.

Bradley: What's that, putting the city name?

Marco: No. By putting different names within the geolocation, within the geographical area.

Bradley: Okay. Yeah. I haven't tested because I … Again, the reason why I haven't tested that is because I don't want to have to create new brands. You know what I'm saying? I wanna go with one type of pseudo brand that I can scale and that way I don't have to come up with a different brand name each time. If I've got three assets in one city, I don't wanna have three brands. Does that make sense, guys? That's why I do it that way. It's more of an efficiency thing for me because we're scaling so much. It would be very difficult to continually come up with new brand names and new logos and all that shit. It would be an enormous amount of work.

Andreas says, “How will we be invited to your webinar on the 14th?” If you donate, you'll get an email with the notification.

Marco: No. If he's on our list, he'll be notified what it is that he needs to do. If he isn't, then how you do it is you donate, then you contact [email protected] and get all the information that you need.

When Is The Release Date Of The New Version Of Jeffrey Smith's Ultimate SEO Plugin?

Bradley: Okay, there you go. Jordan's up. What's up, Jordan? He says, “Any insider news, I know you all are tight, from Jeffrey Smith on when the new version of Ultimate SEO is coming out? No. I can follow up with them now, Jordan, and find out. Let me make a note of that. Because I actually asked him about it just last month, or in December, so just last month, I asked him specifically about it because we were talking about it in a webinar somewhere and I wanted to promote it. I was asking if he had the new one out yet and he didn't, he said he was working on it though. I think it's gonna be out this month at some point, but it might be February. I'll just make a note of it. All right. I'll find out.

Greg Drebert, if you're on then you know because you're real tight with Jeffery. You can always post and let us know if when the launch date is. You look like you are live, Greg. If you can shed an insight, that would be great. If not, I'll reach out to Jeffery and find out, Jordan, and I'll ping you back either in the Syndication Academy Facebook group or next week on Hump Day Hangouts. Okay.

Jim says, “Ass.” Okay. That's quite a way to start a question. “I was in the process of typing out a bit of a long specific question and the browser refreshed or losing it all let's try again but shorter.” Yeah. By the way, if you're at the 59 mark on the clock right before the webinar starts, when it turns to the zero, the top of the hour, yeah, the page refreshes automatically for Google Event pages. So, yeah, next time type your question out in a text file or notepad file first, that way if that happens you don't lose it. Don't you hate that? Okay.

Would SM Techniques Work On Brand-Based Adult Websites?

“Hey, SM gang. I have a question about whether the SM techniques work with non-local, more niche clients. Marco might be the man to ask because he doesn't give a fuck. You say that the techniques should work for any niche, but has anyone tried them with a non-brick and mortar adult client?” If Chris is on, he used to do a lot of that kind of work. “As in a client that operates one or more adult content websites that are based on the brand, rather than the business. In most cases, there probably wouldn't be a GMB to work with. Does G treat adult sites differently when it comes to these mainstream tactics?”

I've never done anything in the adult industry. I know Chris has. Chris, if you're still on, do you have any insight? Is Chris still on?

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Marco: No. I don't I think he and Adam dropped.

Bradley: Okay. All right. Well, Marco, can you … I've never done anything in the adult industry at all.

Marco: No. I mean, I haven't. I did but that was just way back in the day I had a client. Dude, I don't see why it wouldn't work. I mean, seriously, how we developed RYS Academy and RYS Academy Reloaded is that we found the document ranking in Google and it was full of just porn links and just porn stuff and it was ranking like crazy, the G doc. It's one of the things that sent Dr. Garry down the rabbit hole and sent me into thinking how to put it all together into one cohesive unit to push all of that power over to whatever it was that we were trying to rank.

So, if a G doc ranks for porn, there's no reason why anything else shouldn't. I'm just reasoning it out. It's not something that I'm going to try because I don't have a client to do it with. But, Jim, I mean, this is a test in the making. As far as GMB, why wouldn't you try to …? This is what my webinar is gonna be all about on Monday the 14th, why wouldn't you want or try to create the Entity for this so that it's just clear with Google what it is, what all the assets are, where they are, and they all belong to one brand and you try to that the brand plus key word association? I don't see why it would be any different. Of course, it would be filtered for adults, but I mean, that's your market anyway.

Bradley: Yeah. But actually, because I was just thinking business category for the GMB. Guys, they do have media company as a business category, so you could set up a GMB listing for that brand and label it for the GMB business category as a media company. I don't know that that would be filtered out unless it had something offensive in the title of the business name, the GMB profile name, if that makes sense.

Yeah. Sorry I can't shed more light on that. Jim, if that's a question that you would like answered more, I can always post, or with a better answer I could always ask Chris P to shed some insight, because I know he did a lot of work in the adult industry for a while. I don't know if he still does or not, but he did for quite some time, so he might be able to give you some pointers too.

Jim, you might even want to post this question in whatever group you're a member of Facebook group for Semantic Mastery. That way we could get some comments going on over there. I'm sure there's probably some others that have done adult content stuff that could probably help out too. I'm sorry I can't give you, I've got zero experience doing any marketing for adult content sites, guys.

Marco: Yeah. Too bad Jason Quinlan has gone underground or he'd be perfect to answer this. But I'm looking at the categories right now in Google and they have one for adult DVD store, adult entertainment club, adult entertainment store. So if they allow you to verify that, I mean, just looks for the category, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to verify something along those lines and then build your entity that way, see which one fits. If none of them fits, go general.

Bradley: Yeah, media company. I was just thinking, Jim, if you were dealing with online website stuff, a media company might be a good category too. Anyways check it out, post to one of the other groups, one of the groups that you're a member of and see if you can get some other people that may have that some experience, Jim, to comment.

Does Any Of The Semantic Mastery Team Member Buy The Annual OMG Machines Package?

Happy New Year to you as well Scott. Andreas says, “Thanks for the affiliate marketing tips, Bradley.” You're welcome. Jim says, “One more quick question for SM or anyone else on here. Does anyone on here buy the annual OMG Machines package. It rings in at 5k, so it's not for everyone. Is the information worth the cost? Something that can be implemented into an SM strategy? Thanks.”

I do not. I was a member of OMG, that's how I got introduced to Network Empire, it was back in 2012, 2013. For one year, I was in OMG. Then, I got introduced to Network Empire at the OMG live event. I think it was their first one. It might have been their second one. But Network Empire was there and that was where I kind of took the Syndication Academy, at that time we call them IFTTT SEO Academy, and then kind of learned how to really power that up.

Part of the reason I got away from OMG stuff, and I'm not talking about anybody else out there, guys, that's not what this is about, but I got away from the OMG stuff because it was mostly, at least back then, I haven't been a member for several years, but it was mostly about PBN stuff. Like how to go out and buy really powerful domains and build PBNs and not create footprints and all that kind of stuff.

That works. That did work a lot better. But we found methods that … I didn't like the whole PBN thing. I got tired of building private blog networks or building sites and trying to hide footprints. It became more and more difficult and less and less effective without going through all of the … In other words, unless you went through all of the trouble on how to find really powerful domains that were relevant and then how to set them up properly without footprints and all that kind of stuff, then they weren't as effective. If you did all those things right, then they could be really effective.

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But I found become increasingly difficult. I stopped doing PBN stuff and worked more on content syndication and the kind of stuff that we that I felt like was more long-term and more sustainable, which is why I went with going more than Network Empire out. Then, we developed out our own products and our own stuff. RYS Academy being one of them and Local PR Pro and Local GMB Pro and all of these own methods that we've developed on our own that have absolutely nothing to do with PBNs. Nothing.

Guys, we rarely even talk about external link building because we don't need to do it very often. When I do now, I primarily just use Press Releases as my external link building method. My point is, personally, Jim, I wouldn't spend 5k on it. But that's just because we use our own methods, our own proprietary methods that tend to get us results without needing PBNs. Again, I don't know that that's what they're about anymore guys. I'm just telling you that that's why I got away from it.

If anybody else wants to comment on that on the page, I'm certainly open to having people comment on what their thoughts are on there, guys, but please keep it civil. We're not here to pick fights with anybody. Don't start none, won't be none. You know what I mean?

Marco: Yeah. I don't have enough information to tell them one way or the other, and I wouldn't anyway. I wouldn't say, “Yeah. Go spend 5k,” or “No, don't spend 5k.” What I will tell you is, as Bradley said, back in the day that's what was done, that's what worked, and you did it and you moved on to the next and the next. Then came Network Empire, of course, Becker we met inside one of his Masterminds.

There's a bunch of information out there. What I can tell you is that we did our own flavor. We did our own thing. If I need a PBN, I build the G site and a drive stack.

Bradley: That's it.

Marco: And I add power to the G site and the drive stack. I push all of that power the way that we teach it, Local PR Pro, Local GMB Pro, Local Lease Pro, RYS Academy Reloaded. I mean, if you're not in RYS Academy Reloaded, I don't know why you're not in there.

Bradley: Yeah. Yep, there you go. All right. Ken, yeah, there you go. He got the donation link. Greg says to Jordan, “I just talked to Jeff.” See, Greg, you're the man. Thanks, man. I knew you'd come through. You always do, Greg. Thank you. “I just talked to Jeffrey. He'll throw in five extra licenses to the 89 five-pack for Mastermind members only. That's 10 total. Okay. So, you get 10 licenses for $89 for the Ultimate SEO Plus Plugin. That's the Buy link. Then, send him an email with the special I mentioned they get the extra five licenses. We'll be testing the new beta plugin this month.”

I thought that's what Jeffrey said. I remember, like I said, just last month when I was chatting with him in Skype, he said something about January. I didn't know if that was the launch or just the beta testing, Greg. But I appreciate you chiming in, Greg, as always. Thank you. So, it's coming out soon, guys. If he's starting beta testing this month, it's coming out soon.

Entertainment Agency, there you go, there's another one. That must be another business category. “Clients are clients and money is money. It's all the same work.” Yeah, I agree, Jim. I mean, I don't know. I've never been approached to do adult stuff. I'm not sure whether I would do it or not, to be honest with you. You're right, money's money. I don't look down on it or anything like that. So, you're right, it's all the same kind of work.

Marco: Yeah. That's just another niche. You go into whatever it is. You're going to get paid, that's how I see it.

Bradley: Oh, we're almost … Look at this, guys. Post some more questions because we got 15 minutes left and we're almost out of questions. That's rare. It's okay, it's only January 2.

Jordan says, “Also, if someone is a Schema wizard and wants to make a little cash, hit me up. I have a large international travel site migrating to epicenter CMS and the dev team is installing Schema but not using JSON-LD. I need a set of eyes that gets the non JSON-LD type of schema to make recommendations.”

Yeah. Jordan, I would reach out Ryan Rodden Skeema Pro, I think skeema.pro. I think this is it. Right here. Reach out. I'm gonna post this link on event page here, Jordan. Ryan Rodden, he was a Mastermind member for quite some time. I don't know if he's still in the Mastermind or not, but he's a Schema pro. The site he set up specifically because he got tired of people asking him all the time questions of like, “Hey, would you look at my structured data?” so he set this up and just like he said, “Yeah, I'll take a look at it. Go buy it here.” He'll either generate the code for you, or he'll do a structured data overhaul, or he'll review existing structured data, and all that kind of stuff, you just have to purchase it.

But anyways, Jordan, if you've got a big site or whatever, just reach out to him, see what he can do for you. Ryan Rodden for schema work. Or I refer you, by the way, or the Semantic Mastery referred you.

Hey, where's my comment? There it is. All right.

Scott Walker, “I belong to OMG. Very nice people. But I agree with Bradley, Semantic Mastery is far, far ahead on Local GMB, Google Maps techniques.” Well, thank you, Scott. Appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, like I said, guys, I don't know whether they do much with local stuff or not, I know at least back in many years ago now, I mean, you got to think that was 2012 to '13, I think, when I was a member with them. That was shit that long damn time ago. I don't know what they're doing now, to be honest with you. So, you'd have to, Jim, decide on your own really. It's not really much I can help you with on that.

Marco: I have a question for Jordan. All right. There's three types of Schema-, or excuse me, structured data that you can go with: RDFa, micro data, or JSON-LD. Google recommends JSON-LD. Why wouldn't you go with what Google recommends? So now it's me asking a question during Hump Day.

Bradley: Wow! Now I gotta wait for the answer because there's latency, some delay.

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Marco: I'd like to know why. Is it the CMS that doesn't allow for a certain type of structured data? Or is it the client? Is it you? If it's you, why? I mean, this raises a lot of questions, right? Since Google says, “We recommend JSON-LD. This is the way you should do it. This is the way you should go. This is what the bot wants. This is what the bot is coded for.” It'll understand all the other, but you I'm just wondering.

Bradley: Yeah. Well, while we're waiting to see if Jordan replies here, he goes. “That's what I want to argue. Use the freaking JSON.” I agree, Jordan.

Marco: I can give him a page where Google recommends it.

Bradley: Yeah. Do that because then you could go show the web developers and the owners of the company, say, “Here, this is Google saying that you should use JSON-LD. So, why are we doing it the other way?”

Marco: We have Quentin just dropped something in there from South Carolina.

Any Suggestions On How To Use SEO And Google Ads To Rank As One Of The First Musicians In Charleston, South Carolina?

Bradley: “Hello, guys. I live in Charleston, South Carolina. I'm a full-time musician. I play drums and lead sing. I'm looking to be one of the first musicians in Charleston to really use SEO Google Ads the right way. Any suggestions?” It's a really good question. That's a good question. I don't know. SEO and Google Ad, I'm trying to think of how you could do with GMB stuff, but I don't think … It'd be very difficult because as a musician you're gonna travel to different venues to perform instead of have your own venue. You know what I mean? Most likely. So, that would be difficult.

But to use SEO and Google Ads? Well, it depends. I mean, again, that one I'd have to think through quite a bit, Quentin, because it's not something that I've done in the past. But I would probably think that you would want to just optimize for your name or your band's name, either your name or your band's name, or both, or band or group or whatever. You see, you play drums, so I'm assuming you're in a band.

My point is, I would probably optimize for that because as people get to know who you are, they'll start searching for you or your band's name. So, I would optimize for that. I mean, you could go generally to start getting some exposure. For example, I don't really do searches for music in my town so I don't really know what type of search queries people would look for, but you could start, for example, let's just walk through this. We got a couple minutes.

Go to Google Trends. That's where I would start because that's where I always start. For any type of new industry, guys, whenever I'm trying to figure out the best way to start marketing via SEO or even Google Ads at that point, I always start with Google Trends. Always, okay? Come to Google Trends. I don't know what kind of music you play because you didn't specify, but I don't know, let's just see what live music brings up.

I just put live music in. By default, it's gonna be set for United States and it's gonna show data for the past 12 months. But what I would do is I would narrow this down from maybe down to a city level. So you said Charleston, I'd start at a city level, but you might have to broaden it out a little bit. Charleston, South Carolina, right? That is what he said, right? Yeah, South, Carolina. Okay.

Then, this isn't only for the past 12 months, sometimes that won't be enough data, especially on just a city level. You might wanna pull it back to either the regional level or even to a state level, which I'll demonstrate that here in just a second. Right there. We've been talking about this for months now, guys. Ever since July 2018, the near me keywords are by far the most rapidly growing keyword type of query, a near me query.

That's where I'm starting for all my GMB assets now is I'm starting looking to do location research with near me keywords. That's where I start with my research. This just goes to show you, live music near me in just the past 12 months has had 120% increase in search interest in Charleston South Carolina. So, specifically in that city.

My point is, you could literally start optimizing for live music near me. That's a search query that could be optimized for. How do you do that? Because people ask me that, “Well, how do you optimize for near me keywords? It doesn't read naturally.” Well, for example, with GMB posts, Google My Business post, we do a lot of, and again, I just mentioned that's where I start now is always targeting near me keywords because they're driving a ton of traffic right now.

Well, put in like the first line of the GMB post was did you just search, and then we put in quotes, live music near me, question mark. Well, look no further, you just found it. Then, you can spit out some details about the venue and your business-, or, excuse me, the band. Obviously you'd want to associate live music near me with your band name. You'd wanna make sure that your band name was present and that post, as well as maybe the venue that you're performing at, that kind of stuff.

That way you're working that keyword directly into within a non spammy way. Did you just search live music near me or just search live music near me or there's multiple ways you could reword that to where it still reads? Okay. That's one way you can do. Live music Charleston, obviously, that's with the local modifier. These are just rising terms. If you take a look at the top terms, apparently, that's it.

But my point is, you can start targeting with those as more of them as a general way to get people to introduce to who you and your band are. But then what I was saying was, as your notoriety begins to increase, as you become more known in your local area and beyond, then probably I would recommend optimizing for your band's name, or your name if you're the lead or whatever. That's because people will begin to search for your name through brand and that's so you optimize for your brand name and that way you come up and you can control really the conversation via Google about your brand, if that makes sense. That's reputation marketing 101, right?

I don't know, I would start there something else. You could do like I said is back out a little bit. If you take a look at like South Carolina or 12 months we could actually bring it back, let's say, five years and that's kind of should bring you some more live music Charleston, South Carolina tonight. These are just rising terms. You look for top terms. Again, same thing, it didn't really add much. Something else you could do is, let's bring it back to 12 months, but back it out from Charleston to the whole state level. Okay.

This should bring back some different data. It looks like it didn't really. There we go. If we look at top Charleston live music, live near me live music Myrtle Beach, Greenville, South Carolina. There's just a handful of them there. Again, guys, that was just one keyword live music. I would try to figure out like, if you're in a rock band, rock music maybe, whatever type it is you could start just use Google to start trying to identify the types of queries that people might be searching for and indigent or drill into those keywords more, those search queries more.

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For example, let's do this, I mean, I know it's about time, but you could go to Google and search for, like if I said, live music actually, shoot, live music and it might not, yeah, it will. If I did live music near me, something else searches related to live music near me. So you could find other types of related search queries that people in Charleston, South Carolina search for that could give you additional ideas for stuff to optimize for.

That's what I'm saying you can use trends and Google search to find all these types of related search queries and things that you can start to use in your content marketing to start getting exposure for those, for your band. Does that make sense? So, that's what I would do hopefully. Hopefully, that helped you out a little bit. Okay.

Is There Any iFrame Stacking That Can Be Done In A GMB Via The Local Lease Pro?

“Hey guys, when you just have a GMB via Local Lease Pros or any iFrame stacking that can be done? Vince, yes, go back and watch the updates. If you're in Local Lease Pro, go look at the update module that was just added last week or it might have been two weeks ago now. The updates module, I specifically put training in there for how to set up an @id page, which is iFrame stacking essentially.

Go take a look at that. That's in the updates module of Local Lease Pro training. Okay. Everything you need is right there for you, Vince. Scott says, “Marco, I just donated. Great of you to do this for school kids.” Yes, it is. Thanks, Scott.

Jordan says, “Idea for band. If you have a fanbase that likes a similar band, example, Radiohead worked that angle as well. Yeah, that's true. It's true.

Jim Wells. “Marco, will I still be on the list from donating before I wasn't sure if that carried over?” It does, doesn't it, Marco?

Marco: No, it doesn't. This is a brand new webinar, brand new information, brand new donation.

Bradley: Okay. There you go, Jim.

Marco: Come on, guys, it's for a good cause. I'm not asking you to donate a million dollars five, 10 bucks, 25 bucks, whatever your heart tells you to donate. Then, yeah, listen to the information and let me know if it was worth it.

Bradley: There you go.

Marco: As for Jordan, he says that it's a huge international travel site and that it's the devs doing it. You shouldn't let the devs do the SEO Jordan, ever. They think they know until you show them, no shit, stick to coding and let me do my job, make it easier for me, and then just show that. Google recommends JSON-LD and see where you can go. I know that you're gonna get a lot of push back because that's the way they want to do it. But it's not what you want to do, what you should do according to what Google is recommending.

Bradley: There you go. Looks like we finished up right on time today, guys. Wow. That's a great way to start the year. That's rare. We appreciate everybody being here. No Mastermind webinar this week, but we will see you all next week for Hump Day Hangouts. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Marco, for hanging out.

Marco: All right, man. Bye, everyone.

Bradley: See you, guys.

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