Weekly Digital Marketing Q&A – Hump Day Hangouts – Episode 259

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Announcement

Adam: What? We want it? We're live. Yeah, thanks. I'm not seeing it on my screen. All right, well, hopefully, we're live. Welcome, everybody to Hump Day hangout number 259 was Semantic Mastery. Before we get going, I want to say, you know, it's Episode 259. And we were just talking about what that makes next week. Next week will be Episode 260, which is five years of Hump Day Hangouts.

Bradley: Unbelievable.

Adm: Definitely. So we're going to have some good stuff coming up. What we do, though, and we're going to continue this kind of the way we roll our Hump Day hangout anniversary, is we definitely reward the people who show up. So we're definitely going to have some good stuff going on next week. Make sure you show up. You've got to be there live, to be in on this. So show up next week, clear out your schedule, come join us. It's going to be a good one. And we'll have some great stuff going on and maybe a couple of things to give away. We'll see how that goes.

Before we get into that, though, let's say hi to everybody real quick. And I, let's see, I'll just start the top of my screen Bradley, how's it going?

Bradley: I'm good, man, happy to be home. After being in Denver for a week. You know, I don't. I'm not like some of you guys,my partners that can work when travel. When I travel, I get very little work done. I just, I just can't do it. I don't know how you guys do it. But so I'm so backed up. It's ridiculous. I've been working 14 hours a day this week, trying to get caught up. I worked on Sunday to which is a very rare occasion for me anymore. So I'm just happy to be home, trying to get caught up so that I can breathe again.

Adam: Awesome. Yeah. And for those of you who don't know where Bradley was, he was in Denver, with us for POFU Live 2019. And we know Well, obviously, most of you are not able to join us live, which is a bummer. But the good news is this year we're going to be able to get you access to the recordings. And that is going to be happening early next week. So definitely keep your eyes and ears open. If you're not in the Facebook group, join it, I'll pop the link on the page here shortly. Or if you're subscribed to Semantic Mastery, you'll get an email about that and that is going to be a great way to get caught up on all that stuff really quick. You know, it's a bummer you can't join live and get all the networking and after hours, insights and all that but you can still get a lot of the core really meaty information from the recording.

Bradley: Yeah, because the most valuable stuff is shared over drinks after the event. So, unfortunately, we don't record that stuff.

Adam: So next All right, Chris. How are you doing man?

Chris: Doing good. super happy to be back in Austria. Like that Australian Swiss chocolate not like the stuff from dinner.

Adam: All right. I didn't know that. That was a deal. Well, you got to bring your own supply next time.

Bradley: You can't Yeah, don't let that shit on the plane today.

Adam: Hernn, re how you doing you back? You're back on the East Coast right?

Hernan: yes I'm back in Florida I'm super super happy with you know meeting a lot of great people at fulfil live some repeat offenders as well you know they went they went on POFU Live 2018 2019 and it was awesome it was really really great really happy and we have some good good good big plans coming up for this year as well so stay tuned if you're wrong to Get out of here just in time I'm still in Denver and snows coming in so Hernan you left just in time.

Hernan: So thank you man

Adam: Marco speaking of the weather How you doing man?

Marco: I'm good man I'm actually in a really mellow mood today. Well although I haven't smoked any gonna say, man, what do you smoke? Sam Cooke I smoked some Sam Cooke so it's gonna, you know, you can't get in in a hard mood when you listen to Sam Cooke

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Adam: Yes, that's awesome. Well, I want to say to you if you're just joining us and you're wondering what the heck is going on here? Well, you're in the right place. We're going to dive into your questions. If you've got any questions about digital marketing, we're here to help answer them or point you in the right direction. This is the place you want to be every week semanticmastery.com/hdquestions you can ask your questions live. Of course, we tell people to put them up there ahead of time, please try to limit yourself to one question at a time so we can go through and answer people's questions. But if you can't join us live, you can pop it on there ahead of time and you can check out the replay on our YouTube channel which you should definitely subscribe to. Because you can watch these replays as well as other videos that we post about digital marketing, SEO, getting clients all that sort of good stuff. And then the next step because we always have people ask us where should I start with Semantic Mastery? Should I join the mastermind should I do this? Should I do that? Grab the battle plan, go over to battleplan.semanticmastery.com. Grab that. That's going to give you repeatable processes get a lot of the stuff knocked out whether it's dealing with your on-page SEO whether it's dealing with a brand new site, a YouTube channel, you need to find out about GMB, whatever it is just go over there, that'll get you sorted out. And the next step would definitely be to join the mastermind at mastermind.semanticmastery.com.

And since I'm on my laptop, and I'm having a hard time scrolling while I'm looking at the screen, last but not least, certainly head over to mgyb.co. I know I sound like a little bit of a broken record each week. But I want to remind people about this who don't use it enough or who are new and don't know about you know how easy it is to outsource some of the stuff we get a lot of questions about syndication networks about RYS Drive stacks, about press releases, and you can get all of this stuff done for you over at mgyb.co. All right, this is what we do for ourselves is what we tell people to do. If you've got a client, you know, build that into the project costs so you aren't doing the work that you can go over here, get it done professionally and then move on, get more clients and build your revenue. Anything else you guys want to add on to that, I think say about the same thing every week about GMB. But I think it's really important that people not only understand what's available, but why it's available there.

Yeah. Are we ready for questions I was reading, I was pre-reading questions? So Oh, gotcha. All right. Well, then no, I'm going to keep on going here. I do want to circle back to something I mentioned in the intro. You know, last year, we never released, you know, the POFU Live recordings were not available for sale on their own. And so this year, this is definitely a good opportunity for you if you're interested in POFU Live either. I know we had a lot of people couldn't make it due to calendar, you know, complex, people who couldn't make it either due to travel or whatever it was. You know, like Bradley said, It's tough. You know, you do get a lot out of the networking, the after-hours stuff, but you can get caught up to date and really see where, you know, not only we think things are going where you should be aiming yourself for 2020.

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But as well as the guest speakers, we had some fantastic guest speakers. And I'll be sharing the links on both the Facebook page and through emails and you can go and find out more about that starting early next week. And we will definitely have an early action takers discount for people who know that this is what they want to grab. Going to take action on that and do that. So keep your eyes open next week. Definitely be worth it.

Sweet. Cool. Other than that, guys, anything else we need to cover before we dive into questions? else? Alright, let's do it. Cool. All right, let me grab the screen standby for a moment. Chris pushed my image of me in a speedo off slacks and nobody gets to see that. I found a better image of you But anyways, Alright, let me grab this. I think we're good now. Can you guys see my screen? Yeah, yep.

What Are Some Good Alternatives For Google Shortener?

Alright, it looks like Mike is up first he says Hello guys, thanks for the great information. Which way do you recommend to create a short URL? I understand that Google shortener goo.gl doesn't work anymore. And you good alternative? Can you please share some best practices on how to use short links and why? Thanks a lot.

For redirects that I create now, I just use my own domain we actually have one in MGYB that is just super powerful now because it's been used in so many drive stacks and link building. People build links to them and all that kind of stuff. So it's actually pretty strong. Some of the mgyb.co links that we create will actually show up in search and in the top 10 for like brand searches and such it's pretty. But so the reason I mentioned that is because I do that with clients and such I actually will install Pretty Links Pro which is a plugin if you go to semanticmastery.com/pretty links.

I think I think that's the URL anyways, it'll you can buy the pro version, it's like 20 bucks, it's inexpensive, it's really good. We use that a lot for my clients, I install it on their own domain. And if I'm doing short stuff short URLs I for like redirects and press releases, for example, or if I'm going to order a drive stack for them or add to a drive stack, then we'll do short URLs for the drive stack files through their Pretty Link pro plugin, so that we can actually use their domain. And that's just because it adds just, you know, kind of pushes some additional power into their own domain. Or you could always set one up like on your own domain that you use specifically just for redirects. That's something else that you can do. I know that Marco's got some suggestions on some of the short URLs for creators that you can use out there that already have some authority built or a lot of authority built to them.

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I know like owly, which was a Hootsuite shortener, I don't know if you can still use that unless you have an account Hootsuite, but those are pretty powerful t.co, which was a Twitter shortener you can use to be able to use that. I don't know if he still can. I'm not a Twitter user. But there are some other URL shorteners out there. And it just makes sense to do it to create additional redirects, for SEO purposes as well as to honestly to short and really long, ugly URLs. But for the SEO benefits, you can use those to create additional URLs to build links to and do some other cool stuff. Marco, what say you about that? I know you've got some suggestions.

Marco: Yeah. I there's a list in Zapier I think it is of the top shorteners, and then I would have to find new york because that's the one that I always give everyone in like RYS Academy reloaded and when they ask the questions in Facebook, that's my go-to a URL. And I sent I send them to their list

Bradley: right here, the eight best alternatives to you go Google your shortener and Zapier right there. So it says Bitly careful with Bitly. Guys though, like I use Bitly, I've even got the Bitly Chrome extension, I use Bitly quite a bit for like, shortening URLs when I'm taking notes for my own stuff or for process docs and things like that for my VA, but for SEO purposes Bitly at least they used to, I haven't checked it in a long time. They used to arbitrarily sometimes add a change it from a 312 or 302 redirect, which kills any SEO value.

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So I wouldn't recommend using Bitly for SEO purposes, but a lot of these other ones here you can still use I haven't tested all of these by the way, but I would just check them and see what ones you know go to like wheregoes.com or redirect detective or something like that and check a redirect that you create with them to see what they look like but just keep in mind that Bitly will sometimes just add it will change it to a 302 redirect for no-no apparent reason and it will kill any SEO value. Okay. There you go. URL shorteners.

Is It Okay For Two Different Companies to Use The Same Phone Number In GMB?

Next is Ralph. He says, Hey guys, I have a client who has two companies at the same address. And using the same phone number they have a GMB setup for both companies. I'm thinking that Google won't like that they are using the same phone number. I guess the better way to ask the question is, is it okay for two different companies to use the same phone number in GMB? Well, I mean, you can get away with it. But the problem is if you're going to be building citations, it invigorates the data, right? And that causes problems you It causes NAP issues, you should really have NAP you should have three or four including the URL, you should have three unique data points within that if you're going to do it.

So for example, if you have a company that has multiple locations, you can use the same GMB name right the same business name, but then your address, phone, and URL or should be unique because otherwise, you can create any NAP issues in it's called ambiguation, right you can ambiguous the data which makes it difficult for Google to determine, which is what. And so having two different company names sharing the same phone number and the same location, unless you have like a, you know, different suite number or something behind it that can cause problems. So I wouldn't recommend it at all, what I would recommend that you would do would be to get a tracking phone number for one of them, like a forwarding phone number, and go into Google and update, change the phone number in one of the listings so that both listings have a unique phone number. That makes sense. But you've got the same address too. So we using the same address and the same phone number will absolutely cause issues.

If you're using the same address and it's like you know your client has two different businesses at the address then they should be able to all they have to do usually is notify the post office that they're going to add suite one or a or like a and b or suite one and two or something like that. You should get permission from the post office to do that or notify that. So the mail carrier will bring will still deliver in the mail. But I would update the GMB address to include some sort of unique identifier for each business as well. All it takes is like I said, like, you know, it could be 123 Main Street a and 123 Main Street be, it's going to the same address but that A and B actually create we're creating makes the address unique. So do that and do that. Do it make a unique phone number, otherwise, you're going to have a hard time getting results. Anytime you go to build citations. It's going to kind of muddy the waters for both businesses. That makes sense. Does anybody want to comment on that?

Marco: No, I was fine. Okay.

How Would You Create An SEO Strategy For A Website That Targets Two Demography And Language?

Next up, he says I'd like to hear about your or hear your experience if you have built a website that is targeted for two different target market base, target markets based on demography and language-wise. But if you don't have this kind of experience what's your take on this issue, for example, target market a country using English language target market big country using be language, foreign language? What's your take if this website is built brand name calm brand name com/so in a folder, this website provide similar services for a newbie, I look forward to hearing your feedback and recommendations. Yeah, I mean, you can do that if you're putting that the brand like the, the foreign language version of it in a subdirectory. You can do that you can also do it on a subdomain. That's typically how I've done it. I've only done it a few times.

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One of my biggest Tree Service clients or contract service, lead generation service providers that I do Tree Service stuff for. He's as he speaks Spanish, and so we set up Spanish subdomain for several of the locations not all of them, but several of the locations and that that tends to work fairly well because so because you know, obviously some people go and in the US cities go and search for stuff and Google in Spanish and so that works what I typically would do it underneath the subdomain but you can do it in a subdirectory I don't have a lot of experience on that. Although I know Hernan and Marco both do so what do you guys? What can you guys suggest about something like that?

Hernan: I'm setting it up for a foreign language, it's pretty easy. Like, you could definitely do what you suggested Bradley, and then basically can hammer them with links in terms of Spanish. Like, you know, all of the stuff that he's working on the English speaking market usually works really really well on foreign languages because if you can get ranked and you can push power and relevancy on the English speaking markets and you can definitely do enough Spanish market. So tactics do not change this just become cheap, or easier, I should say. Does that make sense?

Bradley: Yeah, Marco, what do you think?

Marco: Yeah, I mean, this is just as simple as a subdomain or, or a folder, right? That I mean, you want to take advantage of the fact. So unless it's relevant. So there's you'll be publishing relevant content. And I think that the only difference is, is the age, the age of the people and the language. But the product or service is going to be the same as long as it's that way, then you're not going to run into problems, your problem will come if it's two things that you're targeting that are totally unrelated. And you're trying to push that on the same website. That could create an issue, right? Because right now, it's all about entities. And it's all about relating your entity to the keywords in the niche. And if you have two separate sets of keywords for the niche than that, then that's a recipe for disaster.

Bradley: Yeah, so he said, I heard is this going to affect how SEO should work? work? How SEO works? should be done for a which would be the English site? No, it doesn't as Marco said as long as like. So for example, we had another site that we had Semantic Mastery actually that we had a translator that we had hired to translate it into Spanish. And we put it on an ES subdomain and it was all she did was she was just translating all the pages on the main site, the root domain into Spanish that we had a mirrored site. So basically, all we did was clone the site, and then install it on a subdomain and ES dot subdomain. And then she went through page by page and post by post and translated everything. And again, as Marco said, That's not going to create any issues there. Then what you can do and you could do it in a subfolder too. But then all you would do is put like, you know, a link in the navigation menu or in the footer or wherever on the group domain that would point people to the Spanish version of the site or the whatever language it is that you're you want to translate to and vice versa.

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Right. So on the foreign language site, it would point back to the English site. And I don't see any issue with that, because that's, that's pretty normal for sites that have multi that serve multiple markets or multiple countries, different languages. So yeah, it shouldn't, it shouldn't cause any problem as Hernan said, You're like, I'm assuming you would try to be ranking the foreign language site in a different country. I can, I'm just making that assumption. So focus on the site, right, which would be your English site, I guess, for the SEO part of it. And that should bleed over to your foreign-language site. Right? If you can rank it in the English version on the US, essentially, you're going to you should be able to rank in almost any other country, especially foreign language speaking countries. That makes sense. So he says note, I heard that using a plugin translation is not recommended if we want to make our website rank higher based on the target market demographics.

Well, I don't know. I mean, I've used plugins, that's what I did for my Tree Service sites, and I didn't have any issues with it. And we did. We did get traffic. I mean, I wasn't intentionally trying to rank for Spanish terms. But I know that for a fact that we got traffic leads from people spoke Spanish that had found the pages. And all we all I use for that was a plugin. However, like I just mentioned, the site that we had built Semantic Mastery for a project, we had hired a translator to actually manually translate those pages. I think it does a better job, there's no doubt. So if you're going to be sending a lot of traffic to that on your foreign language site, you're probably better off there might be something out there that does really, really well with that. I don't know. You could do some searching for it, or else just get a translator to do it manually. So he says I use Go ahead. Yeah, before you move on, you have to use a combination, right? Because you can't have it translated word for word, use Google Translate, and then have someone edit my phone. Because a lot of times when you go from one language to the other through Google Translate, it'll spit back garbage it the stuff will sometimes be on an intelligible. So you do have to have a human editor go in and clean it up, especially if you're serving it to an end-user whom you want to convert on the website. Yeah. The last part of that was I don't want to use a separate domain because I don't want to be people to get confused. Yeah, again, just link within the navigation menu or the sidebar or something like that to the English version of the site, and vice versa. So that you anybody that comes that lands on either one of the sites will know that they have that all they have to do is click, you know, the call to action to point them to the right to the site that they want to watch. They want to be visiting. Right.

Is It Okay To Use Your Target Keywords As Top Of Silo Keywords Regardless Of The Number Of Competing Pages?

Simon's up he says in Jeffrey Smith boot camp top of siloed keywords have 1 million-plus competing pages, but in local SEO top of siloed keywords have nowhere near 1 million competing pages. Can we consider the keywords we want to target as our top of siloed keywords regardless of the number of competing pages they have? He also recommends using a sidebar with links but our page design has no side, can we just add navigation links to the bottom of the page instead? Thank you. Okay, um, yeah, number of competing pages just as an indication of what your competition is going to look like, right, the more the higher the competing pages for your exact match keyword, then that usually means you know, it's going to be tougher generally, for you to rank for that type of a term. But you're right and local. It's nowhere near what depends on the market, but and the keyword. But generally, it's going to be a hell of a lot lower than that. But that's fine, you can still get an idea of what your competition levels are going to be by, for example, all your top-level keywords across that your particular project, do it in URL or in the title search, right? So that's a Boolean operator Boolean search and do an in title search with your keyword in quotes and see how many pages are competing for across all of the keywords that you're trying to your top-level keywords that you're trying to target. target for your market your area, and you could also do that across some other locations, right?

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So for the same keyword, but with other local modifier is included, just to get an idea of what the competition levels are like that can. That is how you can determine your benchmark or your baseline. Right? And then from there, you can use that kind of number two, very quickly determine what your competition levels are going to be for the same type of keywords in different areas if that makes sense. And then from there, but yeah, I mean, there's no reason that you can't still target those types of keywords just because as your top-level keywords, just because there are not a million pages. Does that make sense? You're just its competition is relative Marco always says local is relative well, competition is relative as well, right? Your competition for the same keyword that you may be looking at a new if you were to search that same top-level local keyword in New York City, it may very well have over a million competing pages, but in a smaller, much smaller city it may not get anywhere near that. But that doesn't mean that it can't be used as a top-level keyword. That makes sense. Does anybody want to comment on that before going to the next part of that?

Marco: Yeah. Yeah, give Just give me a second. Sorry. This is again, as with everything, it depends on right Cup competition, it's going to be different if you're in mud lick Kentucky, or if you're going after New York City, because I can tell you that anything local, in New York City, is going to have competition in the millions, it's just going to have it so it's any big city in the US, which is why it's so important to understand your market and to understand what it is that you're targeting. Now if for example, as as we've seen in the land when we're doing that there's just a few keywords that you have to go after, but there's still a top market level category right? This still at a top keyword, sell land or buy land.

What you do with that keyword thereafter, it's what's going to make it or break it, so to speak. It's how you're going to push for that top-level so that you try, what you're trying to do is appear to sell land or buy land. But it's going to pull up everything that's related to that. This is what I could set a bottom-feeding what what what we're targeting now, which is working from the bottom, and excuse me, from the top of bringing everything up, we don't work, bottom-feeding and then work our way up.

We kind of switched it, because we can push so much power. But it's really important to understand the market and what you're after, whether your keywords are related to the location, and also understand what your competitors are doing. So the most important part of all this is it's not really what's in Jeffrey Smith training. Although it is top-notch. It's understanding who your competition is no, regardless, the numbers might switch by zero or by two zeros. So instead of a million competing pages, you might be dealing with 100,000 or 10 thousand, it depends which but your top-level category is going to be determined by the competition. Still. So like Bradley said, your competition and what your target becomes relative to the population size that you're targeting. Right?

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Bradley: Yeah, don't base your top-level keywords based upon the number of competing pages base your top-level keywords upon logic, right like what is logical what is the actual top-level keyword, the top market level keyword. And then from there, you build your solid structure out. So it really doesn't matter what the number of competing pages is it just again, that's just an indication of how much work and efforts it's going to take to be able to get results for that. That's all that means.

He also recommends using a sidebar with links, but our page doesn't design has no sidebar, can you just add navigation links to the bottom of the page instead? Thank you. Yeah, and I think what he's talking about, I'm assuming that what you mean is when he's talking about the siloed specific, like category, or post URLs, like the hierarchy, in other words in the plugin that he has, which the new ones coming out very, very soon. I know we've been saying that for months, but we really mean it this time. It has an SEO or like a silo function built into it to where if you're in any particular category, right, which is a silo then only posts and subcategories, you know, anything that's within that particular silo will show up in that menu, right? And so it's a way to kind of create a navigational and kind of like a silo loop, like almost like a link wheel within the navigational or you know, sidebar or the footer or something like that. So, yes, if you have a widget area, and if that's what you're talking about, which again, I can only assume that that's what you're talking about, then you could put that SEO silo menu, the widget in the footer. And it would still do the same thing as it would in the sidebar. That makes sense. Okay.

You could also do those manually by the way if you use stuff like widget logic as a plugin to like set up logic like says only display this if in this category but it's a pain in the ass. So just use the SEO plugin is much easier.

How Would You Expand The Proximity Radius Of A GMB Page And Website Of An Electrician Using The Battle Plan?

So wills Up next, what's up? Well, he says, Hey guys, I haven't electrician with a GMB and a and website who wants to expand their reach further than the presumed 10 k proximity radius and forced by Google My Business. Would it be a matter of creating new landing pages for the suburbs/cities they want to expand into and in those pages also describe the services they would like to offer, then proceed with the usual battle plan strategy to get those new locations to rank? Also by creating the ranking of this new content, creating and ranking this new content would the GMB then start to rank for the new locations or have I got this wrong?

Well, it may but it's very difficult to overcome the proximity issue with GMB. It's not that it can't be done Marco, you know, we Marco will tell you it can be done and we know it can be done. We've done it, but it requires a lot of effort depending again, it's it depends on a lot of factors but like what we teach in local GMB pro can help you to overcome those proximity issues, but it requires work and consistent effort to do so.

But what other What are your other options, right, your only options are to rank organically by doing what you just mentioned, which is to create location-based silos essentially or landing pages which can be become silos which is honestly how you should do it? I've got just quickly on us on a side I've got a pest control client. It's the same Pest Control client that had their GMB suspended for like two months for just some stupid edit that I made to their page anyways, and finally, we finally got it reinstated. And because of proximity issues, they are not ranking in near as many people repackage they used to we used to dominate in a very broad area like I'm talking like five County area, and now they predominantly rank in the county that the business is physically located in. But a lot of the, you know, adjacent areas are not, they're not getting very good results. And as far as the three-pack goes, so I actually had my blogger, she, she's been blogging for them for, you know, years, this client has been a client of mine for years. Well, I sent her some training on how to, I went in, set some silos up in the site, and I said, Look, we're going to switch from doing more topical type post to doing more geographically latest, you're still going to have, you know, obviously, topical relevance, but we're going to target every post we do three posts per week for this client. We have been for years. So what I did is I said, Okay, look, here are the counties, I've created silos for them. There's, you know, this many cities within the county. What I want you to do is for the next, you know, and every single time you create a post, I want you to create a topical post, but I want you to target a specific area within that county, optimize it for that area, and then add it to that category, that location-based silo. And then we do the silo linking structure, internal linking structure, which is like daisy chaining post together with no reciprocal links. Anyways, we started this about three, maybe four weeks ago now. And just yesterday, as a matter of fact, or maybe it was Monday. Anyways, this week, I was just reviewing one of the blog posts that she created, and we're in a very specific county right now. And she has been for the last several weeks because there's a lot of locations in this county. So I was looking at her blog posts and I was just curious, and I was like, Oh, let me go see how this is performing. And I did a search for that particular, you know, their primary service plus the location that was mentioned in the blog post. Even though the blog post was not about their primary service. It was a bug related, like a pest. It was about silverfish. Actually, this company does mosquito

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Take control like outdoor pest control. But this blog post was about a was about silverfish, but she optimized it for that particular location. So I did a search for mosquito control plus that location. And lo and behold, not only was that post ranked even though it wasn't about mosquito control, the post is ranked an organic section, but so is the homepage of the site for which it is optimized for mosquito control. But it was again, it was way outside of where they're physically located. So they got to organic rankings from that. And it's just because of the relevancy that she's been able to create the location relevancy, by creating that Mondo silo structure. I showed her how to do it. So I provided her with some training videos. We talked about this in the mastermind too, by the way, and then by linking from those what from some of those internal posts are from within that silo to the homepage and actually pushed not only the post but the homepage to rank on-page. One for organic for that keyword. So, my point is you can do all of this organically and that's really the only option you have or else. The other option would be to get spam GMB listings, which I don't recommend doing anymore because of Google being on you know, Warpath or rampage lately, or for the last many months and or the or the other option is to do the organic SEO as well as employee or implement the local GMB pro methods which again, requires consistent effort to get results. If you combine those two though, it is very possible that you can get the GMB to start ranking in some of the other areas, but it takes a lot of effort. And so what does that cost worth? Do you know what I mean? Like how much are you getting paid to do it? Yeah, I don't know what you'd be compensated enough to do it. It really depends on the level of competition. Marco, I know you got some comments on that.

Marco: Yeah, it all the time and effort versus what this client is willing to pay you for your work. I mean, this is for a client and you have to understand the math here, whether it's actually worth it for the client to go there. Now if it is and you're going to be paid for it, there are specific things that you could do. You have to create a relationship. Because as Bradley did, between that location that you're that you want to be displayed in, and your business center because you're centered, as you said, 10 kilometers away, maybe more, maybe less, who knows, only Google knows. But it's that relationship where the centroid can be related and we've seen a bleed over into nearby cities into a nearby county maybe. But you have to give the bot right you have to give that that the math, the algorithm a reason to create that relationship between your business centroid, which is where your business is located and the surroundings and that area that you're targeting outside of that proximity.

We have to override what we call our overriding the proximity factor. And there are very specific things that you could do that I've discussed in both our mastermind and in local GMB Pro to accomplish that. And it's specifically through the GMB and in conjunction with what Bradley just shared in here, I'm not gonna share of course in here, because it's paid training, and people have paid a lot of money to get that. And so but I mean, what Bradley gave you a great suggestion, I don't know. Will is in Australia, they have a post office with a street address in Australia, then, by all means, go get a pin in the area where you want to rank. It's a lot easier to work in another GMB. Now that it's another thing that we teach in local GMB Pro how to optimize your Google My Business listing so that it's ready in and ready to go by the time the pin comes back.

Bradley: Yeah, and the last thing I would recommend is, you know, this is not SEO, but it's a way to get into the maps pack. I don't know if he's in Australia if they do this. In Australia, but in here in the United States, if you have a GMB, and you use Google ads, search ads, and you enable the location extension, as long as you end up with a high the highest quality score, which that's, you know, your max cost per click bid or your or your max cost per click Yeah, your max CPC bid, but also increasing your quality score. So just having really good ads hype, you know, super optimized ads, really good landing page, that kind of stuff. You can get your GMB to rank in the maps three pack above the three-pack like in other words, they've ranked in there with it, but it's an ad and so and it will rank in the three pack as well as if somebody clicks to expand the maps pack to show more, it will rank at the top there. And you can do that by using Google ads, search ads, with the location extension enabled. And if there's nobody else competing, like if there are no other advertisers, other companies using Google Search Ads with the local extension enabled, then you don't even have to have a high quality score to get in that maps pack, you'll be the only one.

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If you are competing with other companies that are doing the same thing, then the way to outrank them in the maps three-pack, even though it's a paid ad is to get your your quality score higher, which means a more relevant ad higher click-through rate that our landing page experience, all of that kind of stuff, which again, that's just, you know, standard, basic Google Ads stuff, which by the way, Google Ads has been, I mean, come such a long way as far as their platform with their machine learning, artificial intelligence. They have automated bidding strategies now. They provide you with recommendations three years ago, any recommendation to Google, the ads platform would have given me out to tell you I used to say to my screen, go shut your hat. I mean, because they were awful, they would usually end up costing a lot of money and with very poor results, but I can tell you for a fact because I still managed a lot of bad stuff now. That the automated bidding strategies are really, really, really good. Now, in fact, all I do now is set up manual campaigns just long enough to get enough data into the account where the recommendations start to appear. And what I'll do is I'll test different recommend recommendations that the ads platform provides. And kind of, you know, it takes screenshots and things like that. And I'll test different targeting strap bidding, automated bidding strategies, things like that, to see which ones provide the better results, lowers cost per conversion, all of that kind of stuff. And it's, it's really come a long way, guys, I can't say it's still can be expensive. It still takes time to dial a campaign in, but it's in my opinion if you haven't, I don't know. Again, I don't know what it's like in Australia, but here in the States. They keep pushing more and more add stuff above the fold and more and more SEO related ranking type stuff, right. So organic and organic maps listings below the fold.

With the carousels now like the Google guaranteed ads regular Google Ads ads in the maps pack like it's just insane. So I would recommend that, um, you know, you may want to look at adding ads to your repertoire of services because it's something that I think Google is going to continue pushing more people to paid services including potentially GMB stuff. So I think it's something that if you're not proficient with yet, you probably should start looking into it now. Okay.

What Will Happen If You Stop Paying The Monthly PO Box Rental And Need To Reverify The GMB Later?

Paul's up he says, Hey, guys, if you run a PO Box to verify GMB, what happens if you stop paying the monthly PO Box rental, I need to re-verify the GMB later that PO Box number will be gone. Can you rent a new PO Box number and get the verification card sent to it somehow? All right. I've only in all of my years now that I've been doing maps SEO and again, knock on wood. I'm not saying that.

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It can't happen. But I've only had to re-verify a location via us mail twice. And all the years that I've been doing this which is about 10 now and, and that I mean, I'm talking about, you know, well over 100 GMB listings that I've managed between, you know, lead gen stuff and client stuff well into the hundreds is what I'm saying. And I've only had to re-verify two of them at like, especially the lead gen listings which are spam but you know, their spam listings. PO Box I did you know, I've got many, many of them out there that I've done that with and I've only had to re-verify two of them over all these years. So I used to always renew my P o box PO Boxes that I had verified with. But the problem that I found and this is I stopped doing it and here's why because I would get a phone call from the post office every six or eight months and they would say you have to come in and collect all your mail because your post office boxes full and they would literally put a box like a cardboard box underneath the post office box on the other side where they you know, put the mail in and all that and they would continue

Fill the box up until the box started to overflow. And then then I would get a call from the postmaster at that office location. And they would be mad, like, hey, you've got to come in and clear all this stuff out, or we're going to close your box. And so I would literally once every six months or so I would schedule like two days out of a week, to continuous days to live. And I've mapped it all out. And I would drive from post office location to location to location and collect all this mail. And I used to ask the post office managers, hey, can't you just throw all that stuff out? It's junk mail, and they wouldn't do it because I'd say like, I'm gonna have to drive to your location just to pick up the mail and put it in the trash. There's nothing I need there and they said, doesn't matter. You either come get it or we're going to close your box. And I did that for years, guys. And finally, it got to the point where it was just too cumbersome like it was unmanageable because I have so many of them. So I just said fuck it. I've only had two that I've ever had to re-verify the postcard. So I just stopped paying and I'm actually let every single one of my

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Except for the ones that I actually do want to receive mail at which you know, like some valid businesses, I've closed all of my P o boxes. So now just so you know what I do when I do set up which I still do it that way but I still set up PO Boxes for GM bs is it works. I just do a three month, right you can go right online, run a PO Box for three months, very inexpensive. You still got to go to the post office to fill out the paperwork, sign the documents, get the key and the boxes signed and all of that. But then I go back a week later, or 10 days later, get the postcard from Google, verify my GMB listing, then I go right back online, and I cancel the account. And that's it. So it cost me three, three months, which depending on the area, and it could be as low as nine bucks. It's ridiculous. And I just don't renew them anymore. So my answer is, you know, let it go. It's very unlikely that you're ever going to have to re-verify it that way. If you do.

I don't know because I haven't had to do it. Since Google's made all these changes. In the past, I would just go in and you the address the physical location of you know it because I have done that in the past where I've had to revert or I've had to get another box in the same location. And I just went in and change the actual box number and then updated it and requested a new verification card at that point. And then I was able to re-verify it, but I don't know now because it's changed so much the GMB like how they're handling everything, it you may not be able to even do that now or it might cause a suspension and I don't know.

Marco, would you know about that?

Marco: No, okay. I wouldn't worry about it, though. It's highly unlikely.

You know, remember guys, that's the Nate that that's one of the risks we take when we do something like that. It just it's part of the process. So and I think destroying mail, even by the post office violates federal law. That's why they make you come and pick up your garbage. You

I know I said, I even told him, I'll send something in writing. Like I was like, Okay, I can fax you or send via us mail or email, anyone, any which way you prefer, I can send something that's giving my authorization for you to discard the mail and my P o box and they wouldn't do it. They know like, so I used to do that driving shit. Like, it got to the point where it was ridiculous. They would have to spend literally two full days going around and those are just the ones that were local. So I just stopped doing

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our next question says, Okay, guys, thank you so much for the enlightenment. I was battling previously whether to buy another domain or not. Okay, so he's talking about the foreign language stuff. Now I'm relieved to know what to do next. I bought the battle plan version three yesterday. I'd like to implement it for this. Very good. Awesome, thank you. Battle Plan. Yes. Don't skip any of the steps carry it through to the end. And let us know how it

Is PO Box Better Than Temporary Office?

Yeah. JACK says I had a temporary office address for our business. I don't know somebody brought it to Google's attention but they can get with all of the reviews, SEO work, etc. and not have to set up a new one from their home address which is verified but it just is sitting there waiting. On review. I saw your post somewhere recently where you liked the PO Box better than the temporary office. Yes, I still still think, you know, it could have very well been that just there was some sort of manual. Remember, there's a big GMB spam team right now that's been out there. That's just you know, their, that's their entire job is to just go try to identify spam listings and terminate them suspend them. And it's very, I mean, it's easy to do it with a PO Box too, but I you know, because the street address is the post office address. However, I've not I have had one recently suspended one of my Tree Service sites. And I think that was the reason because I hadn't done anything in the GMB at all for four months and and I just noticed it was suspended about maybe three weeks ago. And I'm assuming that that got caught up in the same type of thing that I'm assuming yours got caught up in which is just it was man reviewed by the spam team and they saw that it was at a post office so they, they, they suspended it. But I've noticed that those read those offices those shared workspaces and you know things like that as well as using places like ups stores, they tend to get suspended almost immediately or get caught much quicker and sooner than po boxes do. So, unfortunately, it is what it is. As far as if you have now a verified one to a home address that's much better. But if it's not been you know, if it's not been reviewed like in other words, if you submitted the if you verified it because you received the card and entered the number of the pin number and and all of that and submitted it but now it's being it's being left for for review. I know for a fact that there's an issue with that we've heard about it in our mastermind as well as I have a client that tried to verify we you know, I tried to verify another GMB listing for him at an employee's home address.

In a different city, and it was the same thing, it's a valid home address. But once I submitted the pin, because we received it, he sent me a, you know, screen. He took a photo with his phone and sent me the pen. And I verified it. And that was, I'd say a month ago, and it's still pending, still pending for whatever reason. So I think there's just a glitch going on with that. Marco, do you got any comments on that?

Marco: Well, even though it's pending, if it was already verified, everything will go live at the post will go live. So I said, just leave it because I got one go live though. What's that the map won't go live. Yeah, but the post and everything. Everything should be a website in the post. If it's verified. Your pending verification if it's verified, and it goes into pending, then yes, the map, the map listing is there, everything's there, but it's just whatever change you know, I'm telling you that my the one that I'm talking about specifically.

It's been I've submitted the verification number and it says it will be. You know, it takes up to three days to be reviewed before it goes live on Google Maps and it's been stuck in that position like in pending for about a month now and the GMB website is live and published and the GMB posts will will publish to the GMB website. But there's no maps listing. And so the GMB post won't show up in a knowledge panel because there's no knowledge panel either because it the maps listing isn't there. What I'm saying is the GMB website is the only thing out of that entire setup that I did for the GMB that is live, everything else is still not published because it's in pending status. Does that make sense? Yep. So unfortunately, I don't know I don't know how to how to force that either. It used to be that you could have an unverified listing and you could verify it and it would it but it would be published but it would still show as unverified even though you verified it. And then I've had in the past I've had people like our you know, one of our members in our Semantic Mastery mastermind

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Who was a high-level local guide? Just go post a review because it was a published listing, although it was unverified. publicly, it showed on verified, and I would have somebody that was a high-level local guide, go post a review. And within a matter of days, sometimes hours it would go, it would say verified, right, but no longer if it's unverified, even if you submitted the verification number, at least in my experience, if it's, if it's still in that pending status, it's not going to publish, which means you can't do anything about it. So, unfortunately, I can't help you with that. You just have to wait. I don't know what else to say.

How Many Posts Do We Need To Display In The Sidebar?

Okay, next question. And we're almost out of time. We only got a few minutes left guys. He goes when using the sidebar and listening to post in the category. How many posts did we display if there were 100 posts in the category, what would be the max to display I would just, you know, do 10 something like that. It's not even really 100% necessary it you know it as long as they're only posted URLs that are showing from within that category doesn't bleed the silo the theme of the silo if that makes sense, but there's really no reason to put 100 post URLs or you know, links to post in a sidebar or footer that's, that's just ugly and nobody's going to click through all of that. So, you know, put 5, 10 max maybe I would just do whatever looks an aesthetic you know, whatever looks good, right for your particular design.

Can I get the charity link please fits ask for it? Okay, cool. He gets you gave it to him.

Do You Have Any Experience When Using Virtual Office Address To Verify A New GMB Profile?

By the way. Another question. If you don't mind. Guys, do you have any experience using virtual offices to verify your new GMB profile? No, don't do that. I just answered that. Really? And do you also cover the GMB topic in the battle plan for a beginner? Yeah, that's what that's for that it's really for beginners. I mean, it's for beginners and it's just the process the step by step process that we use, whether it's a new site, an established site, local, nonlocal, doesn't matter. Okay, so haven't gone through all the things pages yet, if not which Semantic Mastery product do you recommend for beginners to start building? GMB? Thanks, guys? I am a sheet slasher Oh, sorry.

Okay, uh, what I would recommend is, if you're just doing GMB stuff like there's no better product in my opinion than Local GMB Pro you know, with local, local PR Pro a great add on for that because you can get some really good results using press releases to but if you were, like I said local gym before the battle plan will help you a lot, right because it really points you to the done for you services and MGYB which is your best bet. Use the money that your client gives you to purchase done for you services. But if you want to understand the concepts and how everything goes together on a much deeper level than honestly by local GMB Pro, and that's going to show you how to get much better results out of a single GMB listing instead of trying to build multiple GMB listings. And then obviously we have stuff like local PR pro which is a great complement to that or RYS Academy 16 offensive, but it's very, very powerful. But once again, you can buy done for you drive stacks, which can push GMBs very, very powerfully. You can buy those directly from MGYB. So just go through the battle plan, do that first. And then once you start implementing all everything that we talked about in there, don't skip on parts don't just do 25% of it and contact us and say that's not working. doesn't work like that. If you put all the pieces together will work. There's It doesn't mean you're going to rank every time you put all the pieces together because it depends on the level of competition, a lot of other variables but you do that at link building to it. Posting consistently that kind of stuff. You should get results. If you need additional push after putting those components together. That's when you can get into the advanced training and do the advanced steps. Okay.

Okay, great. This is a good tip. He says I've had two GMBs that got stuck in pending I called the GMB team and acted really stupid. Marco always recommends it when you call G, Google support it all you always ask you act really stupid. He says and asked why it's not going live both went live a week after I called that's a good idea. That's something I have not tried. So thank you for that comment on that.

Nope. Nobody has any comments. Well, there's no other questions, guys. I'm good. I think we're gonna wrap it up.

Okay, cool. Let's do it. We're close enough. Thanks, everybody for being here. We will see you guys next week. Thank you guys, guys. See you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye, everyone.

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How Much Time Should You Spend On A Client?

By April

In episode 251 of our weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked how much time should one spend on a client.

The exact question was:

Hey guys, I have actually ranked websites doing nothing but DFY services from MGYB. While MGYB and the Battleplan get me results, it means that I don't spend much time per client. That's awesome, but what would I answer when someone asks how much time I actually spend on a client? A lot of clients have an hourly mindset, where if I don't spend 100 hours per month on them, then I don't deserve the pay of 100 hours. But I'm still creating value! Why does it have to be tied to time? What's a good way to answer that question? Just exaggerate the time I actually spend? Some people take advantage of my business naivete, I've found

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Weekly Digital Marketing Q&A – Hump Day Hangouts – Episode 222

By April

Click on the video above to watch Episode 222 of the Semantic Mastery Hump Day Hangouts.

Full timestamps with topics and times can be found at the link above.

The latest upcoming free SEO Q&A Hump Day Hangout can be found at https://semanticmastery.com/humpday.

 

 

Announcement

Adam: That's what you get from making jokes right when we go live. Welcome everybody to Hump Day hangouts, episode 222. This is …Oh, man. I should have cued up some music. This is the last Hump Day hangouts that will be on a Google event page but more on that, first, let's say hey to everybody. It is the sixth of February, 2019.

Bradley: Well, let me interrupt you for a minute because you said this will be the last Hump Day hangouts and I know some people, that's all they heard and they're gonna freak out like, “What,” so we're gonna clarify. No, just the last Hump day hanging out on a Google event page guys. We're still gonna do it, we'll clarify that in a minute. I just want to make sure everybody understands; we're still gonna keep doing Hump Day hangouts.

Adam: You dropped off right there. That might sound bad. Yeah, we'll get back into it. We got some really good announcements; we got some great stuff coming up. We're gonna say hey to everybody really quick and then we'll jump into questions after that so I'll do the normal lineup here. Chris, how you doing today?

Chris: Doing good. Actually, doing excellent man. It's like a new PR in the tune today, same as yesterday, so I'm super excited. A good week. How are you doing?

Adam: I'm doing pretty good, just [inaudible 00:01:08]. Man, I don't know what came over me there. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good.

Chris: Rich, you'll need a couple more tee shirts man.

Adam: Yeah, [inaudible 00:01:15].

Bradley: What was the PR for … what movement?

Chris: Yesterday it was squats and today it was bench.

Bradley: You PR-ed your … for those of you that don't know workout speed, that means personal record for squats and bench press. That's very good man. Congratulations.

Adam: I figured Chris [inaudible 00:01:34] got a press release about his lifting.

Hernan: Chris now lifts 385 pounds.

Adam: Contact Chris Tow and [inaudible 00:01:46] for more information.

Chris: Nobody takes the coaching online but you can check out my Instagram. I might share a couple of things there.

Adam: Awesome.

Bradley: Chris is one of those guys. He's in the mirror at Instagram posing.

Chris: Exactly.

Bradley: He's one of those guys.

Adam: Herman, how are you doing man? Are you surviving the heat wave?

Hernan: Yeah I'm good, actually cooled off a little bit so it's good. I went for a run, not a macho as you guys breaking PRs but still broke a sweat. But, yeah, I'm excited for what's coming. I'm excited to be hanging out with Adam. We've got to be scheming and plotting a lot during FHL 2019 so I'm excited for that too.

Adam: Awesome, me too … me too. Marco, how are you doing?

Marco: I'm living the life and I'm loving this shit. Fuck all of you. It's just so beautiful here, man. I can't help it.

Adam: Yeah, it's been funny. People around here were freaking out because there was snow dusting on the hills to the East; I'm in the bay area, and it's just hilarious. It hits right at freezing and people are just like, “Oh, is this the polar vortex,” and then at 50 or 60 later in the day. But that's my jam and I like it like that. Bradley, how about yourself?

Bradley: I'm doing well and if we ever had an invitation to be memed, Chris just did it. Greg and Wayne if you're out there listening meme away, so to speak. But, yeah, that's said I'm really excited too. I got lots of stuff going on. Tomorrow we've got the Mastermind Webinar and I'm gonna be releasing all the process docs and training that I developed over the last three or four months for scaling the local least pro method that business model out. Everything that I put together the last four months that's been refined and refined and refined again and it's polished enough now.

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And I promised the Mastermind members that we're gonna get it when we finished our 12 week sprint to build 50 GMB assets and that ended on Monday. I'm gonna release everything to the mastermind members tomorrow and in the following 12 weeks with the POFU live attendees, the people that came to our live event that joined me in the first 12 weeks sprint, which was to build 50 local assets, lead generation assets out and we all hit various numbers. Specifically for my build, I hit 42 out of 50 for semantic mastery, for our agency that we're building separately. It's not semantic mastery.

But anyways … I didn't quite hit 50 but I hit 42 and that's good enough, in my opinion. Aim high guys. If you aim high and you don't quite hit it, you've still done good. Right? And so I'm pretty proud of that. And then we had varying levels of completion or hitting that goal through the other members that joined us and it's across the board and I'm proud of everybody that helped me with that and participated throughout that process. But the next 12 weeks we're gonna do another sprint when …

By the way, these guys only paid to come to our live event one time. They were just like 24 weeks of additional training and that was not planned. That was something that I chose to do once we were at the live event. And I'm glad because it's given me a lot of help with developing these processes out and getting input from other people so it's not just 100 percent me. And so the next 12 weeks, now that we've got all these assets built and we have our teams that are continuing to build more assets, now we've got to monetize them.

We've got a lot of assets now that are ready to be monetized, which means find service providers, either lease them, buy the leads, however the arrangement is that we work out. And so I'm really looking forward to getting back into prospecting from a lead generation perspective as opposed to a client/agency perspective; which I tried almost all of 2018 to just sell agency services, traditional agency services, and failed miserably at that. I was pretty good at prospecting but sucked at sales.

And it's because the market, in my opinion, is so saturated with business owners being solicited to buy marketing agencies. The moment they think that they're being solicited to, they put up their defenses. And I'm sure a lot of you guys can relate to that. But, just in the last few weeks, the lead generation business the word's gotten out and I'm actually getting inbound calls now from contractors asking for lead generation services, which is amazing guys. I'm telling you the dynamic is completely different and so I'm really looking forward to the next 12 weeks of developing out and testing all different types of prospecting methods for service providers.

And I was on a mastermind call with one of our members earlier today who was telling me about his strategy. Scott, it was awesome. I'm gonna put your strategy to the test and I'm gonna be sharing all that data and in the Mastermind. Anyways, I'm just really looking forward to it; got a lot of stuff going on. Like Marco said, there's so much opportunity right now, guys. It's almost hard to sleep so I hope you guys see the same opportunity I do.

Adam: Good deal. Good deal. And for those of you just joining us, if you're new to Semantic Mastery, the Mastermind is a higher level group for people who are looking to either start or continue to grow their local digital marketing agency. That's the place to be if you're ready to take that plunge and you either want help getting started or, like I said, if you wanna grow it. You can find out more mastermind.semanticmastery.com. In general, though, the first place we recommend everyone to start is with the Battleplan and you can check that out battleplan.semanticmastery.com.

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And we do have an update to the Battleplan coming out that's bigger, badder, more kick ass and that's gonna cover even more areas so stay tuned for that. And there's gonna be reasons to get it. Don't worry about getting one now. I know shit with, “Should I wait and get the third one when it comes out in February?” You just get it now, start putting it to work. You'll get an ROI as one of our buyers even told us. He said it paid for itself in 13 minutes and that was great. There's all the video training that goes into it too. All this stuff has been updated so go grab that if you haven't yet. And then something else I wanted to talk about, Bradley, you were talking about the mastermind and hopping on a call.

Marco: Hey Adam-

Adam: Yeah. Yeah.

Marco: -before you get into that, I'd like to ask people if you haven't subscribed to our channel, please do. It's really encouraging when I see those numbers of subscribers grow, the people that follow us, the people that … It makes it worthwhile to come in here and give people all of this free information that they're getting, information that people have used to build businesses. But just, all it takes is just a tick of a button guys. Go subscribe, let us know that you're following us, that you're interested in what we're doing so thank you for doing that.

Adam: Yeah. Definitely, check it out on youtube. We'll put the link out there. Let's see. I had a couple more short ones. Bradley mentioned the Mastermind and then, obviously, MDYB is where you can get your done free services like syndication networks, RYS, drive stacks, all sorts of good stuff. What we're also adding in there, we've had a lot of people ask us for help with finding VA's, how to build their own team. And so the VA matching service, helping you build your own team or providing qualified VAs that we've vetted; they have given salary expectations, they're full time, they're ready to go and we're gonna connect those with people.

But right now that's gonna be limited to just the mastermind. We're gonna be taking four orders or Beta testers in, helping them connect and giving them the best practices guide to get started with using their VAs. And then, eventually, we'll be offering that to other people who want that. Hopefully, if you're listening to this, that sounds interesting to you because that is a core part of growing your business. Whatever it's doing is building that team and we're happy to be able to do this and use the same process as we do to find our VAs and our help and get you the help you need.

A real quick note, we had a great webinar with Lisa Allen. If you haven't seen it yet, I'll put the link below; check that out, RSS Authority Sniper. She's added some really cool updates, I'm not gonna go into that I'm just saying that it's awesome and it's part of Bradley's case studies he's doing right now which Bradley I'll let you touch on that in a second. And then, just to wrap it up, as I talked about at the very beginning with a no more ‘Hump Day hangouts'. It's no more Hump Day hangouts on Google event so they are shutting down.

Bradley: Wait, what?

Adam: They're shutting down the Google events. We are gonna get it ported over. It doesn't matter. All you need to know is keep using the same links you get to. When you get an email, click the link, I'm here. If you go to semanticmastery.com/hdquestions you will still go there. We're gonna get our own page setup, get stuff going so that it's seamless; and it's just gonna look a little different but, hopefully, it's gonna be even smoother for you.

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Bradley: Yeah, we're gonna use the discuss app, as the commenting app below the webinars so it'll make it really clean. It'll be a nice clean page just like the Google events page are and it'll keep all the comments on right below. And what's kind cool about it is the comments are archived too so instead of every week having a separate event page, like we've had in the past where the comments … you'll be able to scroll through the comments and just look through the questions and stuff from previous weeks as well once we start that.

We've been doing that, actually, for the Mastermind Webinar for what, two years guys, and it's been working really well over there. It's gonna be a seamless shift for you guys. It won't affect you guys any at all.

Adam: Good to go. Alright guys, we got any other announcements before we dive into it? Okay.

YouTube Embeds Clarifications

Bradley: All right, so the first thing I'm gonna do is grab the screen and then I'm gonna take a moment to clarify some comments I made last week that, apparently, I wasn't very clear on. I knew what I was trying to say but, apparently, I wasn't very clear in my delivery and it caused a shit-storm in that we had a whole bunch of people freaking out about what I said about embeds. If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't worry about it because I'm gonna clarify my statements now and it should make sense.

And for those of you that heard what I said last week and freaked out about it, I apologize for not being more clear about what I was saying. Again in my mind I was clear but, obviously, I confused a bunch of people. What I was talking about last week specifically was … and it was this dude here. I'm sorry, I can never say your name, Mayank. And, again, I would love to hear how that's actually pronounced because I'm, probably, butchering it. He asked a question about embeds and I had said that yes, absolutely, embeds will help to push a video.

I was talking specifically about youtube guys and I think people conflated what I was saying about embeds with any type of embed including map embeds and things like that. But what I was talking about was specifically youtube guys. And that was that will embeds help push a video and I said, yes. However, mass embeds and mass links to a video that doesn't have corresponding engagement signals, which means views, comments, likes, shares, those kinds of things, can be a spam signal. I wasn't saying embeds themselves are a spam signal.

And that's, apparently, how it was taken. And it might've been the way I said it or whatever. Again, I apologize but I wasn't saying embeds are spam signals and I think that's how it came across. What I was saying was specifically for videos. If you have a video that you go out and you do thousands of embeds and build thousands of links to it and you go look at the video on youtube or Google search and it's got three views, guys, is that natural? No. And we know, for a fact, that youtube videos can rank purely on engagement signals now. We know, for a fact, that that's true and I'm gonna show you right now, or in just a moment, the proof of that.

What I was saying was if you're gonna build a bunch of backlinks and/or embeds for a video, then, I would recommend that you also build traffic or engagement signals. And how do you do that? Well, the easiest way, unless you can get real organic views, is to buy views … not spam views from view bots and from view services but buy views from Google directly from the Google ads network. Guys, you can set up Google ads for YouTube. I just did a two and a half hour webinar on that two weeks ago that I made public for 55 bucks, you can get access to it, where I go into great detail as to how to set up these ads, specifically how to set these campaigns up to get videos to rank in Google search, guys.

And it's from buying engagement signals directly from Google, which is perfectly legit and legal. It's encouraged as opposed to buying spam views from view services that don't work anymore anyways. And so my point is you can still take and get results from mass embeds and from mass backlinks with videos. But watch what happens if you do backlinks and/or embeds and you just inject a little bit of real traffic engagement signals into that. Everything just comes alive. It's like magic. I'm telling you. Marco has been talking about ART for two years, three years now and that's … What is it? Authority, relevancy and trust?

Marco: Activity, relevancy, trust and authority.

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Bradley: Activity, relevancy, trust and authority. There you go. And so if you're going to be doing mass embeds and things like that, guys, if you just inject a little bit of traffic signals, and there are real traffic signals which you can buy directly from Google for pennies, it will make everything come alive. And so I just wanna show this example really quick. This is a video … And I'm gonna show a real live example here guys, just to prove it to you. I'll zoom in on this just briefly but this is exactly … I clarified this in the mastermind too because we had several people freaking out like, “Oh, I do a bunch of embeds and there's no engagement signals. Am I fucked?”

And I was like, “No, no, no, you're okay. Your videos are still okay if you do that.” But what I'm saying is if you've got a video that you've done a ton of embeds to and backlinks to or whatever and it's not ranking yet, just go buy some traffic signals from Google and watch what happens. It'll come alive; it's like magic.

Marco: Yeah. But, before you go on, we've never recommended just thousands and thousands of embeds anyway.

Bradley: Correct.

Marco: We've always said slow and easy wins the race. We've never said go buy a million embeds. We've always said you can get 25, you can get 50, you see how it does, its niche relevant and watch it and then you adjust accordingly. That's what we've always recommended throughout when we were with the other company where we were providing the video and map embeds and even we're gonna be providing now. We're not telling you go buy a million embeds tomorrow.

Chris: Yeah, we never recommended that.

Marco: Ever, ever. But slow and steady wins the race with anything.

Bradley: But one other comment that I made was [brute force SEO 00:16:54] and I'm not a brute force SEO kinda guy; Marco is though. And Marco was like, “Well, we can get results with brute force.” I said, “Yeah, you can and there's no doubt, I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying the way that I, particularly, like to do things is to try to make it look more natural if possible. And that's all.” And that's what I was trying to say last week guys and, apparently, I wasn't very clear. But this is the example that I wanted to show because this is the video ranked.

This is for a local video production company that I've been doing wholesale. I've been providing wholesale video ranking services to them for five years now, four or five years, and we used to do a whole lot of it. I don't have nearly as many campaigns as we used to but … Anyways, long story short, on December 28th, I took the video that they sent me, I live streamed it to my channel and it went through all the syndication networks that that channel is hooked up to. That's an age syndication network, there's multiple networks attached to that channel and it works well.

And I had also used some embed credits that I had from SerpSpace which, Marco, there's a video powerhouse thing in there that we built when we were still part of SerpSpace and so I had some embed credits and stuff. And, for whatever reason, usually when I upload a video to rank for a client or for this company or for anybody really, usually I do the live stream to the channel. It automatically syndicates through all the networks and then I usually immediately follow up with setting up the youtube ad, the Google ad free for video, to start injecting engagement signals so that as the embeds are getting picked up and indexed and that kind of stuff, there's automatically traffic going to them.

Again, that's the secret sauce. It's worked for years now for me. For, at least, two or three years now, that's been my magic bullet. The trick up my sleeve is to just immediately add that the Google ad to it so that I start pushing traffic signals into it then I'm buying from Google; which you can get Geo targeted topically relevant traffic so highly relevant traffic from people that are likely to actually engage with the video too. And, again, all of this was taught in the training that I did two and a half weeks ago or three weeks ago or two weeks ago actually that's available for 55 bucks. If you're interested, just reach out to us and we'll send you the link.

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Anyway long story short, for whatever reason that day, I was short on time and I did not set up the youtube ad, for that so I let it push through. And about two weeks later I went to go look at where the results were because I always tell the client it's gonna take me roughly 30 days to get results. It usually doesn't take that long but I always tell them to prepare him for it taking as much as 30 days. Two weeks later I went by and I looked at it and it had finished or completed its initial Google dance.

You guys are aware of that where the video might show up on page one and then it disappears from the top 10 pages and then it comes back on page three and then it disappears and it comes back again. It had finished that because I had set up the pro rank tracker. I use proranktracker.com to track youtube videos … the rankings for youtube videos. Anyways, I looked at the history and I saw that the initial dance period was over and it had settled on page two between 12 and 15. It was steady bouncing between 12 and 15 so 12, 13, 14, whatever. You get what I'm saying.

I went then and set up the ad because I was like, “Okay, now it's on page two.” And I went and looked and I was like, “Oh that's why. There's no ad.” I looked at the view count and I think there was like four views at the time and I was like, “Oh shit, I forgot to set up the ad.” I set up the ad for that and that was on a Friday … on a Thursday, excuse me, and it takes about 24 hours for a youtube ad to get approved. Sometimes it's less but most of the time it takes roughly 24 hours. And so I set up the ad for this and I looked at it on Monday.

It had been running for roughly three days or four days, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and then on Monday is when I looked. And by Monday it had had generated, I think, 86 views and boom, it was on page one. And, guys, it's been on page one ever since. And that's what I'm saying about just injecting traffic into that video after it had already been embedded. I prefer to do it while the embeds are just occurring. Before they even index, I like to start sending traffic but, in this case, I did it backwards to where I had all the embeds go out and it had sat for two weeks before I set up the ad.

But as soon as I injected traffic guys boom to page one and it's been there ever since and here are the youtube stats. Let me zoom in on this a little bit. Let's see, how do we use zoom in on this shit? It's not letting me. Okay, well, I don't know if you guys can see it but here's the youtube stats for just the last 30 days and you can see that that's the same video guys. My average cost per view, seven cents. My budget is 50 cents a day guys, look at that. You see that 50 cents a day, who can't afford that?

I usually start off with a dollar per day but I backed it down to 50 to this point and you can see that I've spent $23 in the last 30 days to keep that video. I've got 332 views in the last 30 days and … Excuse me, I've actually generated six clicks. Those are six clicks because the targeting that I have set up for that, I've got the geographic targeting setup for about, I think, a 30 mile radius from the shop, the Warrington auto service shop so all the clicks or views that are coming through are from people within that service area. And they're an in-market audience for people that were looking for auto repair services.

It's highly relevant traffic and Google knows that traffic is in the in-market audience for auto repair services so it knows it's a relevant audience that's viewing this video. That's what causes it to rank guys because it's not like just getting random views from anywhere in the country or globally. These are views that are geo targeted from an audience that Google recognizes and knows is in market for that service so it's a highly weighted view and it's pennies guys. The average cost per view is at seven cents.

Do you get that? That's what I was trying to say. Hopefully, that clarified everything. If anybody has any questions about that, just post them on the event page and I'll be happy to answer it. Okay. You wanna comment on that before I move on guys?

Marco: No.

Chris: Okay.

Hernan: No, I think that that was pretty clear, thanks.

How Do You Get The First Post URL Of Your GMB Profile Using The Citation Builder Pro Software?

Bradley: Elaina says, “Bradley, in reference to you using the citation builder pro software you mentioned in a local least pro training, how do you get the first post URL of your GMB profile again?” Easy Elaina, log in to the GMB profile and go to posts and you'll see the published post. If you're using the citation builder pro software, once it's been published through this post scheduler, you can also grab the link from inside the dashboard of the post scheduler. There's a little link icon to the right column of the post and you can grab the link from that too so very, very simple.

That's all you need to do. Or you can go do a Google search for the brand name of that GMB and in the knowledge panel … on the right side of the screen, in the knowledge panel, you'll see your post. Click on the post, it will expand like a pop up window and you can click the share button on that and then grab the share link from that. That's your GMB post URL. It's a very, very simple process. Okay?

Does Long Form GMB Post Performs Better In Terms Of Ranking?

Will says, “I noticed that for GMB posts, there is room for 1500 characters to write a post and yet in the local pro training you use only a handful of characters to complete a post.

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Shouldn't we try to write longer posts to convert more keywords in our copy so we can rank for those keywords too? Or is there a point of diminishing return when we write writing longer pieces of content texts that yields no benefits?” That's a good question Will. Honestly, I haven't been testing long form copy because, for me … I know Marco and Rob, I think, have done some testing there so I'll have Marco comment on that in a minute. But, for me, it was more about activity and consistency. In other words, we post the short little posts because the way that I look at GMB posts as more like call to action type posts.

And that's what I called all of the templates that I created for local least pro CTA templates. I called action templates because it's just an image where we inject a key word or two or three or whatever that sounds … it's worded to where it reads well. And then we have a call to action and we do more posts. In other words, we do higher volume of posts instead of doing long copy post and only a couple of week. We do one post per day or two posts per day that are much, much shorter.

Because I also think when somebody's looking for tree services there don't care to read a freaking article just to get the contact information. They want to do a search, find a tree service company and call them to come out and provide an estimate. And I get what you're saying about injecting more keywords and all that kind of stuff but you can do that by just doing more posts too. That's been my methodology; I haven't really tested long form content because it's more work really and I'm able to get results without it. But that said, Marco, what has been your experience with that?

Marco: We started out doing the long form, taking up all the space in all of the posts. I know for a fact that Rob, he just likes to use the short form. However, lately what we've been doing is intermixing. We've been doing the long and the short, long and the short never in any set pattern because Google catches patterns. But I've found, and from what other people are telling me, it gets really good results when you use long form. That's the way that … When this started out, when it was originally conceptualized back when I was doing, and I'm still doing the New York attorney project, I'm still with her. She's not going anywhere, trust me. It was all long form and it has been to this day.

The writers do nothing except long form posts. Now what we take care to do is that in the image there's a call to action and in the first few lines there's a call to action. And the button is always a call to action button because, to me, that's what works. The person seeing that they might want to read the rest but I could care less if the person reads the rest. If they take action, fine, but I want all of that content for the BOT.

Bradley: Sure.

Marco: That all I'm concerned about. I wanted to have all that, all of that relevance. I could be writing about something locally, main events. I'm not gonna get too much into this because I'm not giving it away but there's so much that you can write about, to create relevance, inside that post to trigger just everything to relate your GMB to everything that's going on in whatever your local is that you can get amazing results if you do it correctly. And I think that this calls for an update webinars sometimes in local GMB pro because you can get some fantastic stuff going if you mix it up right.

Bradley: There you go. There you go, there's two sides of that coin. Well, I just haven't tested with long form copy because I really haven't had the time and I've been able to get results for the types of industries that I've been working in without it. I've always been an advocate of doing the absolute bare minimum to get results. Guys, I say that all the time and so I'm able to do that in the industries I'm in and still get results; there's no need for me to do the long form copy. Eventually I made test that but for right now it's still working and I've got the processes already developed. My teams handles all that and since it's working … if it ain't broke, don't fix it type stuff, you know what I mean?

Marco: Yeah.

Bradley: I may test that though.

Marco: I like that. But if you remember that the deal that I made with my attorney is it had goals; it had goals that I had to meet as far as call volume. And so I had to keep increasing the call … I didn't have to just show a steady stream. Of course, I had to continually increase the call volume in order to get her to pay more and more and more and more and more. Each time we reached one of the call goals, the monthly went up and it has gone up. You'll reach a saturation point where you just can't do anymore but you also want to keep it up there.

And I'm not changing anything that got me up there. I'm not gonna try changing it and then have it fall off and her say, “Well, this month I'm paying you less.” That's not gonna happen so I'm trying to avoid that at all costs.

Bradley: Okay. Mike has got several questions here just for future reference. I really appreciate you coming and asking questions, man. That's exactly what we encourage you guys to do. Just for future reference though, it's only fair to post one or two questions and then wait until other people to post some more questions just because it's not fair to take up too much time. That said, I'm gonna run through these really quickly guys. Okay. The first one is, “I need help with the following questions.

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Should We Use The SerpSpace Tiered Link Building Service To Increase The Power Of A Tiered Syndication Network?

For increasing power to syndication networks should we use the SerpSpace link building service?” Yeah, you can. [Daddy 00:29:52]who's been with me for six years now, he's amazing. He's a link builder. He's absolutely amazing. We're gonna be launching that in our store, MGYB, in the next few weeks. I think it's the next product that's coming. Is that correct, Marco?

Marco: That's correct.

Bradley: Okay. Any ETA when that's gonna be available?

Marco: Within the next two weeks.

How Does The RSS Authority Sniper Fits Into The Video SEO Plan Laid Out In The Battleplan?

Bradley: Okay. That said, within the next two weeks we're gonna have daddy working, in our … it'll be available in MGYB. But in the meantime, yeah, absolutely. It's the same guy, so no question. Number two is, “Can you talk about where RSS Authority sniper fits into the video SEO plan as laid out in the Battleplan? Should this be an add-on to everything else we were supposed to do for video SEO?” It doesn't have to be but it can, certainly, help. Guys, to be clear, RSS Authority sniper is the software. It's a software that helps you find RSS feeds that are relevant. That's what that does.

It's a one-time fee. It's a software that will just help you to find a relevant feeds and it will create the spliced RSS feed from the different content feeds that you find. The magic of it is the subscription, which is the add-on service, which is rank feeder, R-A-N-K F-E-E-D-E-R. We can drop a link for that. That's when you create the spliced feed that goes on the rank feeder server that serves that RSS feed and then that's where the magic happens. It's not the RSS Authority sniper, that's just the tool.

The magic is from the feed that is created that is hosted in rank feeder and what you do with that feed, which is an SEO tool. And it's an incredibly powerful yet simple SEO tool and that's what I love about it guys. People like complicated stuff because it makes them feel smart and fancy and shit. I like simple stuff and the RSS rank feeder creates these really powerful SEO RSS feeds by combining relevant and authoritative feeds with your own content and so that it creates what's called co-citation.

And, essentially, you are siphoning authority from all of the relevant content that you surround your content with within these feeds. And so it's super, super powerful and if you're doing any local video ranking, what she released in this newest version of it is geo tagging. You can add geographic data to the feeds and so that's really, really powerful for local. And so I've got a case study going on with that right now where I'm testing for GMB assets. But for videos it's the same thing. What's really cool about it is you can actually take a video, just a video URL, and add it to, if you've got the front end software, RSS Authority sniper and it will pull an RSS feed from youtube from that video.

In other words, the RSS feed for the channel that that video comes from. And now you can use either that individual video as part of your feed or you can use the channel feed if there's a bunch of relevant video. In your case Mike, since you're gonna be having channels that you're gonna be hosting videos on for video SEO services, you could add your channel feed as one of the content feeds that you create a spliced super feed from … a rank feeder feed from along with relevant content. When I say relevant, I mean topically relevant as well as geographically relevant if it's for local.

How do you do that? Well, for example, you could go look at for your local, the town, the city that you want to rank the video for, you can go find their local government municipality website and see if it's got an RSS feed. If it doesn't, you can still add it as a sticky or a static item in the feed. You can find local blogs, you can find local event calendars that have the RSS feeds. And you can squeeze all the RSS feeds into one and create a spliced rank feeder feed that then you add the Geo tagging into which you can add specific coordinates or you can add what's called a box, which is like a service area type business, where it will show…

It will, basically, add the geographic relevance from a service area instead of a single map point. There's all this really cool stuff that you can do with it. What I would suggest Mike … And, yes, it can absolutely help with video SEO, guys and it's all done and … it's automated other than setting up the feed itself, which is simple process. And that's what RSS Authority sniper will help you do in a step by step fashion. But you honestly don't even need the front end product, you could just do it from the rank feeder dashboard, which is the subscription based product.

And from there, once you set up the feed, it just runs on autopilot. What I suggest doing is gonna Fiverr and using an RSS submit gig costs where it'll you five bucks to get an RSS feed submitted. The super feed that you create that hosted on rank feeder, you take that feed, go to Fiverr, search for RSS submit. You'll find a gig … I use one that it submits to 70 feed aggregators and directories and that's it. It costs five bucks. You send the link, it's done; two days later, you've got it submitted and it just works on autopilot.

You don't have to do anything else with it so that's what I like about it. It's an automated way to continually inject both topical and geographic relevance and create co-citation for whatever content you want to siphon authority to, if that makes sense. Very, very powerful and it's a simple, simple tool. That's why I like it.

How Should You Connect The Drive Stacks And Syndication Networks Using The Video SEO Battleplan?

The video SEO Battleplan doesn't mention syndication networks and drive stacks. Can you talk about that? Where do these fit in to the steps laid out in the Battleplan? Well, syndication networks, you just connect them to your channel. I'm sure you already know that Mike. The video SEO Battleplan, I'm not familiar with what that part of it says but it should say that you would want to connect your channel to a syndication network because that's just automatic syndication and embedding and back links and social signals and bookmarks and all of that just from just uploading a video.

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Drive stacks, I've never really used drive stacks for video SEO. Marco may have; I have not. I've only used drive stacks for pushing web pages, websites and GMB assets but not for videos specifically. Marco, what about that?

Marco: We've used it in conjunction and it works like crazy.

Adam: Okay.

Marco: It really does because you're creating the three parts of art; Activity, relevance, trust and authority. If you're embedding a Google property on a Google property, it's only going benefit. You can't go wrong with doing it. Either way, you do it and we always embed a video anyway into our drive stacks, it's part of the process. And why wouldn't you do that on the G site that you're creating and create that relationship between your youtube channel and the G site and the drive stack and back and forth. Yeah, do it by all means. It really worked for the stuff that we were doing.

I could see also linking, for example … Without getting too far into the weeds, I could also see using drive stacks to promote an entire channel as well as playlists. Because, guys, remember YouTube Silo Academy? It's about how to silo a YouTube channel just like you would silo a website and that's incredibly powerful for video SEO. Again, it's simple but it's powerful. And so you could theme mirror your drive stack, like we talk about doing with websites, but you could do that with your youtube channel as well so that you're basically mirroring the silo from your channel into a drive stack. And I think that that would be very powerful. I haven't done any testing there, but I'm sure it would work because, again, it's Google promoting Google.

Marco: Well, I'll tell you right now. We stopped working in the niche, which is why I mentioned it but we got videos ranked in the gold niche.

Chris: That's awesome.

Marco: That's how powerful it is.

Bradley: He says, “If I have my YouTube Channel connected to a tiered syndication network, do I need to go with video powerhouse embeds.” You can. See, that's the thing. Again, like I said, do the bare minimum to get results. I wouldn't recommend syndicating a video to your network and then immediately going and ordering 300 embeds. It doesn't make sense; you might not need that. You might get the results just from your syndication network so why waste the embeds and the any additional effort.

What I would recommend and this is how … Guys, I've always done this besides adding the youtube ad into it, the Google ad into the process. Whenever I've done video SEO stuff, and I've been doing it for years, I would just let it go through my networks and I would it two weeks before I would do anything else because a lot of the times the networks alone. Especially once your networks are aged and they are themed well, which means they have a lot of relevant videos and all that kind of stuff on there, they become more powerful over time.

And so a lot of times just syndicating a video to the network alone, it would rank within two weeks so I wouldn't have to do anything else. But if it didn't rank within two weeks, then, I would go and I would order like 50 embeds. 50 embeds and that's it. And I would drip those out over 14 days. I would select the drip option for 14 days and then at the end of two weeks I would go check it again and again. When I say check it, I just go look at pro rank tracker because it made it real easy to look and see what the results were and if it needed some more, then, I'd put some more in there.

But, I'm telling you, the real magic is gonna also come from injecting real traffic in engagement signals which you can buy directly from Google for pennies guys. I'm not saying don't do embeds; I'm not saying that at all. Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that is the secret sauce now for me. It's just buying the engagement signals because we know that YouTube will rank on engagement signals alone. You combine those two or three components, embeds, backlinks and traffic engagement signals, those three together are going to make it make it happen.

Should We Use A SerpSpace Tiered Link Building Service To Power Up A YT Playlist/Channel?

For powering up YouTube playlist channel, should we use SerpSpace tiered link building service? Again, that's what I just said. That's the same thing that we're gonna have available in MGYB but, yes, you can do that too. But remember, again, it's more about … In my opinion you can do that as well. You can do that too but I would focus more on engagement signals is what I'm trying to tell you. You can do both, don't get me wrong, but if I had to choose one over the other I would probably do engagement.

I don't know … I'd just do both. Why? Because I don't have to choose one or the other. I'd do both. And that's where I'm seeing the most results. Do v2 users get an upgrade for free to Battleplan v3? And I would say no, but am I wrong?

Herman:No, it's not free but your ROI is there and we keep this price to low on purpose and we're gonna do our best to keep it there.

Bradley: Yeah, it's priced so low guys. Mike, you can afford it, I promise. Tim says …

Chris: Hey Bradley, hang on a second before you. When you read the next question include what was added by Adam above because he commented in YouTube and I would like this answered all at once.

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Bradley: Where did Adam comment on there?

Adam: I posted a picture, you'll see it keep going up.

Are Drive Stacks Not Effective Anymore?

Bradley: Okay. Sorry to jump in with a downer question. I was looking at DriveSpace, I was going to buy your course, got told by someone over at SerpSpace that DriveSpace aren't really effective anymore. Tim, Tom said, Google said all links do no follow. It doesn't matter. It's a Google property. But do you wanna comment on that Marco? I'll let you take that one.

Marco: Oh yes. We've been trying not to knock SerpSpace because it doesn't make sense. We worked with them, we went; we each went our way. They're doing their thing and I'm doing ours. Now, if …

Bradley: [Inaudible 00:41:42]no ill will there.

Marco: There is absolutely none on my part but ‘if'. And remember that I'm using a conditional ‘if'. If it's true that somebody in SerpSpace said that DriveStacks don't work because the links are no follow, then, they can kiss my ass because they're absolutely fucking wrong and don't understand the basic principle behind RYS academy reloaded. We don't rely on those motherfucking do follow links, man. Read the fucking course. Read my shit. Go read the fucking black book you mother fucker, if you said it. Now if you didn't, please excuse me. Tim may have misinterpreted it.

Bradley: Yeah, that could be it.

Marco: I went there and I said it. If you did that, then it's on. Show me my shit doesn't work. Don't tell me because I can show you a thousand examples where my shit's working, fuck you, not you Tim.

Bradley: Well, tell us how you really feel. There you go. Yeah, they work. In fact, I've got… I can show this. I've got a GMB off page SEO test that I'm doing right now in isolation guys. These are the nine different tests that I'm doing right now specifically to move a Google my business assets using all of these different off page SEO methods in isolation. In other words, I'm testing each one of these where that's the only thing I'm doing besides the on page. It's these off page things here? What I've got listed right here.

I'm doing all of these right now. I've got multiple tests going right now because I just told you guys, we've been building out assets like crazy and I got a ton of them that need help. They're not ranking yet; they're not producing so I'm testing all these different methods to figure out which ones produced the best results, move the needle the most. And then from there I'm gonna set up tests to start combining the methods to see which combinations move. This is gonna be a longer term process where I'm gonna be testing all these things so that I can really figure out what the magic combination is.

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That's what I'm trying to do because I wanna be able to provide the same instructions or the same kind of roadmap, or Battleplan if you will, for you guys so that you can get results too. And you can see that DriveStack was number two. I had to drive stacks so every one of these on testing on two different properties because if we see the same result on two properties, we know that it's likely going to occur on a third or fourth test. If we see a good result on two properties for the same test and we see good results on one good and poor results on another well, then, it's inconclusive and we need to test further anyways.

If we see two with poor results, then, we know it's likely that it's not going to work for a third or a fourth; so that's what I'm doing right now. And so for drivestacks I've got two assets that I've got set up and I ordered the drivestacks; they're about just over the three week mark now, which is usually when it takes 21 days or so before you start to see any movement at all from a drivestack. And I've already seen a significant jump in one of my GMB assets from a drivestack. I'm not gonna show you those here guys but, again, all of this case study data is going to be released in the mastermind as I have it.

And the drive stack absolutely will move a Google my business asset. Why would it? Well, because it's another Google property. I don't give a shit whether it's follow or no follow links. Guys, I stopped caring about that a long time ago. Yes, you can still get better. You can do certain things with a do follow link that you can't with a no follow link but does that mean no follow links don't help ranking? No, absolutely not. It does absolutely help. And how do I know? I had somebody do a negative SEO to me, well not to me but what a client's website, and they didn't 100% anchor text, exact match anchor text links that were all no follow.

And guess what? We ranked number one for that keyword. He screwed up apparently. And we know, for a fact, that youtube links are no follow links within the descriptions and such yet YouTube Silo Academy works. Why? Because even though it's a no follow link from one YouTube video to another in the description, it's a YouTube linking to YouTube. I don't know whether page rank passes through that or not but Google still treats that and it still will move the needle, whether it's do follow or no follow up. Again, I wouldn't get so caught up in that anyways, really.

Marco: And, by the way, we have the million link case study into a drive stack to rank in a major metropolitan area, one of the most competitive niches in that area. You're aware of that?

Bradley: Oh, yeah. I remember that.

Marco: We've shared it in in the mastermind. You know what it is, man; and it's ranking to this day with the porn links in the link profile. We have indexed porn links and it's ranking man. Come on man, tell me my shit doesn't work. Kiss my ass.

Chris: There's that example again. Guys, that's a drive stack at work right there and it's been since May of 2015. We're going on four years now guys. It's still there. It's drive stack stuff; never done anything to it ever since. It's still there, four years later guys outranking all the other Virginia SEO agencies and it's just a drive stack that I built, a very crude one that I built on a Saturday when I first learned about it from Marco and that was in May of 2015 and it's still there today. No, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Go on. Move on. [Crosstalk 00:47:07]. Don't create more competition for yourself, man.

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How Do You Maintain A Persona Account Without Ever Leaving Footprint Issues To Google?

Bradley: Michael says, “Hey guys, Marco made a comment a month or so ago that has been gnawing at me ever since.” That happens often, Michael. He says, “The idea is that we maintain a firewall between us as individuals and the persona accounts we create when setting up all of our accounts. Marco said essentially that it's better in Google's eye to be a giver instead of a taker by buying Google services such as upgrading their G suite account, et cetera or buying ads. There's a lot of things you could do. You could pay for the additional storage in drive, there's a ton of things that you could do.” That is correct.

How does a Google persona do that and still maintain the firewall between me and the persona account? If I pay those services using my credit card then the firewall is broken and the footprint connection is made for Google to see. That may be so Michael but I can tell you I've got tons of accounts out there that still use a handful of billing options and I haven't had any issues with that. Honestly, I'm not saying that it isn't a footprint that could cause some issues, I'm just telling you personally I haven't had any problems with that; and I've got multiple accounts that use pretty much the same billing details.

That said you can also get … I know we were talking about it in the POFU live group. Adam was chatting with one of our members about using privacy.com or those types of accounts where you can get virtual credit cards and things like that. Now apparently, the prepaid cards, Google doesn't like those but I've used some prepaid cards in the past or virtual cards. NetSpend is one that I've used in the past that you could create a credit card and then get virtual card numbers to use for online services.

In other words, you log in and it will give you a new unique card number that you could use for an online service that you're not using the same card number across multiple online services in case there was a breach so it's unique and only to that one. Anyways, my point is I've used those in the past and that's worked too. Marco, can you comment on that? Because I don't know of it really causing a footprint issue. I could see the potential for it but I haven't experienced that.

Marco: No, I have a bunch of stuff on my card too and I have multiple cards so my reference was to that. The persona, I bet you have family and you have friends that you can reach to and my friends don't mind because they know that I'm covering whatever I spend on their credit card for that month. It's all set to automatically repay. Now the bitch is went when I have to update to a new credit card; now that gets into a mess. But, of course, you should have a VA doing that. You don't do all of that. It's the same thing that I do with Google, my business listing.

I just don't like have having everything on just one card because if something happens, then, I'm screwed. But if I have multiple cards and I have multiple things going then it's protected because Google isn't gonna hit all of them all at once, especially the different names, different things. That's how I do it. Now, how you figure it out, that's up to you Michael. There's no one way to do this thing but you just have to figure out a way that's worked for you and where you're comfortable putting these sets of assets so that it works for you.

Bradley: There you go. This is just getdivvy.com. This is a virtual credit card with two different card types, burner cards, which are disposable credit cards, one time usage or subscription cards, which is probably what you would need for Google ads type stuff. But, again, you could just have to test that. But, again, just do this, go search virtual credit cards and just look through some of the offers. Privacy is the one that we talked about in the POFU live group but I don't know if those work or not. Again guys, just go test some of these and find one that works for you.

Marco: And, by the way, I've tried using debit cards and Google won't go or prepaid and Google won't go for those. That's why I think you need a subscription type card, which is what divvy had two different options. I think a subscription type card would work but you'd have to test. I can't promise you that.

Hernan: That sounds like it would work because you have privacy it was definitely not.

Why Can't We Use The RSS Feed From A GMB Account As A Trigger Point To Syndicate To A Branded T1 Network?

Bradley: Okay. Will says, “Bradley, is there a reason why I couldn't just take the RSS feed from my GMB account and then use it to trigger my FTTT account to syndicate these GMB posts on my branded T1` network? In other words, create all this applets to each property and off it goes. Wouldn't it have more power to my GMB post or when all these T1 properties linked to posts, what do you think? Yeah. And Will I answered you up here briefly but that's exactly what syndication academy update webinar next Thursday, which was February 14th valentine's day at 3:00 PM.

I'm gonna be hosting the update webinar, the next syndication academy update webinar, and I'm specifically talking about … Well, Google plus is dead now. What? Because that was one of our big social hubs and syndication network or syndication academy, excuse me. But then I'm gonna be talking about GMB post syndication; I've been testing that. Again, that's right here. That's on my GMB, post-test, syndication networks and GMB posts. I've been testing that and it is working. I'm seeing some movement so we'll talk about that there and then. But yeah, you can absolutely do it. The short answer is yes. Can you ? Yes, you can.

Is It Possible To Pay To View The Recording Of A 2-3 Hr Google Ads For YouTube Videos?

Okay. Good question. Lisa says, “I'm just learning about the two to three hour Google ads youtube video that you heard that occurred last week. Is it possible to pay for the recording of the class?” Yeah, we just talked about that Lisa. It should be still available for 55 bucks. Am I right, Adam?

Adam: Incorrect. We took it down. It's only available in the mastermind. I realized we had some confusion internally about that but I posted up there above.

Bradley: Oh shit. Okay. All right. Well, there you go Lisa. Come join the mastermind then. It was up guys for a couple of weeks. Unfortunately, if the window's closed, it's closed. I just produce the training, I don't make the rules; apparently they do. Frankie says, “Hey guys, some help please.” Yeah, Frankie, I read through this and I gave a brief answer there but I did want to spend a few minutes on this and we're running out of time guys and I apologize. But I do want to spend a couple minutes on this. Frankie says, “Hey guys, some help please having a rather big problem.

How Would You Manage A Competitor Email Threatening Legal Issues Of A Rank And Rent Towing Websites?

I have a rank and rent towing website for two to three years now. Today a competitor's contacted me and said I've only changed the location details. He said, City County and city of laws prohibit an operation such as yours to operate unlicensed. We will take legal action as well as communicate to the county towing regulations of your unlawful internet practices as well as the city of city of whatever. We are a legitimate business and pay for licenses, insurance, and taxes; you are a fly by night website with nothing except the selling leads. You have been warned. Is any of this true? Has anyone dealt with something like this? Should I be worried or is this BS?”

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Okay, I don't know whether this guy is just blowing smoke up your ass because he's a jealous competitor or if that's really true; but you need to find out if that is true. If you're going to be operating lead generation in that industry, you need to make sure that you're complying with the laws or else you could be, potentially, in trouble Frankie. And so I would recommend that what you do … However, that said, I wanna be really clear here guys. I started to type all this out yesterday Frankie but I didn't because I figured it would take me too long to type number one, but number two, it would be easier just to explain it.

Yelp doesn't have to have proper licensing and insurance to advertise or to have a listing from a towing company so why should your website has to have proper licensing? Well, because if you're using a pseudo brand, a generic name brand, that company … that generic or pseudo brand company, a fake company essentially is not licensed. It doesn't have proper insurance. But if you have a service provider that you have a good working relationship with … What is a good working relationship?

Well, to me, that's a service provider that has been paying on time that I have good rapport with, I communicate well with, and the pays on time essentially. As long as you have a good working relationship with the towing provider that you're selling your leads to why not just rebrand the website for them. Rebrand it; put their name on it, put their logo on it. Keep your tracking number on it but put their license number in the footer and all that. Do all the stuff that is required to comply with those laws. If they're a licensed towing contractor or towing company, they're gonna have all the proper licensing and everything.

By the way, if you're selling leads to companies that require licensing, guys, make sure that they have licensing. I don't sell tree service leads to companies that don't have contractor's license. You see what I'm saying? And proper insurance, a liability insurance and all that stuff. That's one of the things that I require from the contractors I sell leads to because I don't want that to ever come back and bite me in the ass. You see what I'm saying? My point is, Frankie, it could be just a jealous competitor but it's in your best interest. Ignorance is not an excuse and so you should find out if that's true.

And then also, like I said, if you have somebody that is licensed and insured and all that, then, why not just rebrand it for them? You still own the domain, you still maintain control of the website, you maintain control of the tracking phone number but you put their brand, their logos, maybe their address on it but it would be your phone number and then put their licensing number or whatever is required to be displayed on the marketing collateral for that type of business. Just like realtors have to have their license number, financial institutions have to have all kinds of regulation stuff in the footers of their site, you may have to do the same thing.

That's the easiest fix that I can tell you; otherwise, get the hell out of that industry. And just so you guys know, one of the first lead gen sites I ever created … the first two lead gen sites I ever created one was for carpet cleaning and one was for locksmiths in the state of Virginia. And I found out, very similarly to what Frankie is saying, that there's a ton of regulations in the locksmith industry. I don't know if it varies state by state but in Virginia it's heavily regulated. Fortunately, I found out before I had caused any damage and I just, basically, took the site down and I just abandoned it.

Does anybody wanna comment on that? Okay, moving on. All right, we'll try to answer another one or two and then we're gonna wrap it up guys because we're almost at the 60 minute mark.

How To Evaluate Keyword Difficulty?

Mike has another one. He says, “A question about keyword research. How do you even evaluate keyword difficulty? I'm using ahtres and they show a lot more keywords and other tools but their keyword difficulty score seems to be way off the mark.” Mike, I gotta be honest with you man. I don't trust tools and their competition metrics. I honestly don't. I test.

I stopped following two metrics for keywords and stuff a long time ago. I don't care. I just go test. I know you're doing video SEO so how hard is it for you to just run a spam campaign, it's called keyword poking. Just go poke the keywords that you wanna instead of relying on tools and what their proprietary metrics are. That's just proprietary metrics. It might be well-educated proprietary metrics but they're still proprietary metric. Just go test. Just run a spam campaign of poking campaign for all the keywords you wanna check and just go determine which ones are easy to rank for by the results.

That's my opinion. Anybody else have a different opinion? Okay. You guys are quiet. Mike says, “Should we be sending links to entity stacks or branded brand once they sit a bit or should we be filling more content on things like BlogSpot?” Should we'd be sending links to an entity stack or branded brand once they sit a bit. Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I misread the question. Yeah, usually I would wait until there was a few pieces of content posted, what I call seasoning the networks before I would start hammering with links guys. That should be in the Battleplan by the way because that's standard operating procedure.

We've talked about that many times about the order and the timeline of which I would apply or methods; and so, typically, I'd order the syndication network while my blogger is preparing the content. Well, I always said three to five posts. My blogger would prepare content for three to five posts that once the syndication network came back, she would schedule the post to go out and we drip out three to five posts over the course of one to two weeks. And then during that time I would order the link building package, while the posting is being done over that one to two week period.

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Because there's, obviously, a delay from the time we ordered to the time the link starts being built to the time the links gets submitted for indexing. And so, usually, by the time the link building campaign was completed the first initial batch of posts had been posted which had seasoned the network, so it seems a bit more natural. Again, guys, I try to do things more naturally now than I ever did in the past and it just seems to work well. And that's typically how I would do it. So, yes, you can send links to it but I would recommend that you season your network a bit first; send some activity, consistent activity, through it but via publishing.

Should We Be Sending Links To Entity Stacks Or Branded IFTTT Ring Once They Site A Bit?

“Also, should we be filling more content on things like BlogSpot?” Well, I don't know what you mean by that other than when you first get to network, if you've ordered it from us, it should already have one piece of seed content on it. If it doesn't, then, if you're building it then you should be adding a piece of seed content when it's built. Otherwise it could just look spammy to begin with. And I also don't … And that's part of the reason. By the way guys, we add a piece of seed content from our networks because I don't recommend that you have a brand new web two network or property that you automatically start syndicating posts to because that can get your accounts terminated.

Because, remember, web twos don't like automated publishing. Most platforms don't like automated publishing so that's why we put a piece of seed content on there because by the time you get the network back, that piece of seed content has been published on that particular property for a few days, at least, before you start publishing automatically via IFTTT. I recommend that you do that. Just put some seed content on it and let it sit for a few days. Let it marinate and then you can just add additional content through syndication is what I recommend.

“Where can you get a T-shirt?” Come join the mastermind. There you go. I think we're almost done. YouTube ads … Yeah, I wish we could do that honestly. That's a really good course man but I don't make the rules I just make the training. Michael says, can one of you … There you go. See all these people are asking for it. Wow, we might have to open that up Adam. You might have to twist your arm. Is he still here.

Adam: [Inaudible 01:01:45].

Bradley: You might have to twist your arm. We got a lot of people asking about this youtube ads webinar again, man. All right. Jay says, “Brad …” I got to go guys. I'm gonna try to answer just this. Yeah, look at this, another 55. Wow, we might have to open that up guys. If we're gonna do it, it'll be for a limited window.

Does An Adwords/YouTube Branding Campaign Improve Maps Rankings?

I'm gonna answer Jay's question; it gonna be the last one. “Bradley, I just want a clarification on your ad words youtube branding campaign. Is there a correlation that they improve maps rankings or is that dependent on where the traffic is directed … maps, listing, homemade?”

Yeah, Jay and I covered that in that training that I was just talking about which, apparently, is closed right now. Specifically, the training was about how to rank the video but at the very, very end of it I talked about what you can do with that. Because the traffic from those videos, if you have your targeting set up correctly, which is super … I'm telling you guys, the targeting options inside Google ads has gotten really, really, really good. I mean, really good. And so you're buying traffic from it a relevant audience guys. That's crazy. That's awesome. That's great and that's what makes it work so well .

It's because Google knows that audience; they're Google users. Google has them in specific buckets. They know that they're within a specific geographic area. They know that they're in market for particular services or products. And if you have a video that you are … Long story short, I was talking about doing it specifically for ranking videos but at the very end I talked about how if you do have a relevant audience that you're targeting, then, you will get clicks. I just showed you in the screenshot, which I must have closed down, that I didn't get a lot of clicks but, remember, those clicks are heavily weighted guys because it's highly relevant.

And so you can send the clicks, the target URL, within the ad itself so the destination URL. When they click the link in the ad, where does it take them? You can direct that to a GMB map or a GMB post or a GMB website, whatever you want. And so that depends on where you want to send the traffic. But can it? Yeah guys, because you're injecting relevant traffic and engagement signals to whatever property you want. And I'm doing almost everything exclusively inside Google ecosystem now because of GMB stuff. I'm not even building WordPress sites now. I hope to not have to build them again, but I'm sure it'll happen.

Marco: Before you go on, I have a follow up since I saw that post again. If there is someone saying this stuff, I wish that person will come to me. Not with not with rhetoric because anyone can say anything. And I just said whatever the fuck I wanted because I can't but that's nothing. Come and show me that it doesn't work; that when it's done the way that I show and how I show it's irrelevant, it doesn't push, it doesn't create what I say it does. That's all I'm saying. If, in fact, there's someone saying that just come to me because we can solve it. We can work through it.

I'll apologize. I'll come live and say, “Look what I've been teaching for the past, what, five, six years is wrong. I'm wrong.” But we have the data to back to back up everything that we've said about RYS, drive stacks, G sites and the power that they push. We know because we test, we don't just talk. And I'll leave it at that.

Bradley: Yeah guys, the things that we teach, it's real world stuff. We all have our own agencies or businesses outside of semantic mastery and so I test things on my own properties or the lead gen assets and in clients. If I can get results from my lead gen assets that I can repeat, then, I apply them to client properties; and if I can get results there, then I teach about it here or in mastermind and various other platforms. But that's it. Everything that we do, it's not theory, it's been tested. And guys, remember there's more than one way to skin a cat so what we teach isn't the only way. There's other ways to do shit too.

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I don't like it when … And, again, I don't know if that comment was made or not I just … I'm not talking shit about any other SEO out there or other groups, especially ones that we were partners with and I would expect the same courtesy from others. I made a mistake a few months ago about commenting on a comment that was posted on a hangout, or a hump day hangout, about something that Josh Bazinsky said. And I spoke out of turn because I didn't clarify or confirm that that comment was even true and I spoke about it and I shouldn't have and I apologized the next week because I felt that that was wrong.

Like I said, I'm not gonna talk shit about other people because I realize that other people's methods can work too. See what I'm saying? But to come out and say drivestacks don't work, well then, just … I agree with Marco, just show where they don't because we have a lot of proof that shows that it does. And, again, just because it doesn't work in one application it doesn't mean it won't work for others. And that's all I'm saying so, hopefully, there won't be a shit storm from that because you know what they say.

Marco: [Inaudible 01:06:53]

Bradley: You know what they say; don't start none, won't be none.

Marco: I couldn't care less if there is. They could just come to me. And that's what I'm saying, come to me. Let's work through it and if we can't, then, we can just find another way to do it. I'm all about it, man.

Bradley: All right everybody, no more Google plus. Rest in peace Google plus. Let's all have a drink for it and we'll see you guys next week on the new event page with the same link guys, semanticmastery.com/hdquestions, but it will be a different format. Okay? We'll see you all next week. Thanks for being here. Thanks guys.

Marco: Bye everybody.

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Should I Start With Semantic Mastery’s Syndication Academy Or The Battleplan To Build My Business?

By April

In episode 210 of the weekly Hump Day Hangouts by Semantic Mastery, one viewer asked if he should start with Semantic Mastery’s Syndication Academy or The Battleplan to build his business.

The exact question was:

Hey guys, it has been a long time since I've been on a humpday hangout. I got caught up on the cold calling strategy to build my business and also had a case of the shiny objects syndrome. I didn't fully understand how POWERFUL digital marketing is and what it can for your business.

You would think that's a no-brainer for an IT guy….

Anyway, I'm back for real, and I'm ready to learn this stuff. I just downloaded the battleplan. I'd love to get involved in the mastermind but I'm not able to afford it at this time. The Syndication Academy looks to be a great runner-up. Can I start there to get things going, or just start with the battle plan? Thanks guys, and congrats on your 4 year anniversary!

Andrew

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Is The Information On SEO Battle Plan And SEO Bootcamp Still Valid?

By April

In episode 175 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked if the information on the 2017 SEO Battle Plan and SEO Bootcamp are still valid today.

The exact question was:

P.S: I got a copy of Battle Plan since Nov 2017 as part of SEOBoot Camp bonus. Is the information in the copy still valid? For example, I think the CrowdSearch is no longer a viable strategy, right?

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