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Bradley: There's a weird delay between when it says we're starting and when it actually goes green. Hey, everybody. This is Bradley Benner with Semantic Mastery. This is Hump Day Hangouts for January 18, 2017. It's 4 p.m., Eastern. We only have a couple on with me today. I've got Chris and Marco. Hey, Chris. How are you?
Chris: Doing good. Glad to be here.
Bradley: We got Marco. How are you doing, buddy?
Marco: Hey, man. What's happening?
Bradley: Guys, you know after last week we did the format with … Trying to use the WebinarJam comments and that didn't work out very well so we switched back. We're using the new WebinarJam sessions like Overlay. We're not using Hangouts for the actual video. That's why the interface or, excuse me … the video that you're watching now looks a little bit different with the layout, but for all intents and purposes on your end as a viewer, as an attendee, nothing will be different. We're going to continue using the Google-Plus pages like we have been. We're going to use that as the Event Page as the place to post your questions. You can access that event page through the notification emails that get sent out once you've signed up and registered for the Hump Day Hangout Series. If you have not registered for the Hump Day Hangout Series, please do so.
Semanticmastery.com/humpday and once you register it redirects you to a thank you page. There's a video with me explaining that if you click on a link above, that you can subscribe to be notified to the entire series for an entire year. You can unsubscribe at any time, but I recommend that you do so, that way notifications get sent out as well as the link to the event page every single week will be sent out in that notification emails so you can post your questions early. We just got to train you guys to get in on the new system with us. I think it's going to make it beneficial for everybody in the long run, and hopefully you guys will agree. That said, I think the only announcement that I know of because Adam's having difficulties attending today, is we've got a citation service up now, guys. Actually, I haven't even got a chance to click through and look at it yet but yeah, we've got a citation service now available for people that want to purchase citations.
There are high-end citations. They're not the cheap, shitty ones so I recommend is if you're doing lead-gen properties or things like that, you can go with the cheaper services if you feel like it, but if you want the Cadillac of citations, we have that available now. That's Semanticmastery.com/citations. Hernan or … Hernan. Marco or somebody can post that on the event page for you guys. Check it out. If you're doing any sort of client work and that kind of stuff, these are the same citations that I use in my business. The same citation service for all of my clients. Very, very, very high-quality citations. You can't get any better than what we have available so check that out. Do we have anything else we need to announce before getting into questions? Guys, do you know?
Marco: Yeah. I'd like to add that Video Power House is almost ready to go, man. I thought we're hard at work. The sites are being built. We have the categories. We actually have someone that checks the videos to make sure that they go into the correct category. We're going to keep the theme. Keep them powered up and I'm adding some extra sauce into the mix some [inaudible 00:03:19] and some other stuff that I know will power up the network, give it authority, give it relevancy, give it trust and so I think it's totally going to rock and at the same time what we're going to do is we're going to limit the number.
Sorry, but it has to be done, and we have to let people go. We're going to limit at first, the number of people that we let in just to make sure that we can serve that amount of people, that the system can handle. As we go, we will open again, for more people. Hopefully, I don't know. We'll see how it works. We'll see how it all works out, but I just want people. I'm really excited about this because we've been working really hard to make this happen. We're right there. We're right there, man. I'm really excited about that.
Bradley: Hey, look. We had the late comers. The fashionably late members.
Adam: Hey, guys. I just woke up.
Hernan: Hey, everyone. What's up?
Adam: I haven't had consider restart but I know Marco was talking about Video Power House, which is awesome. I'm getting super pumped about that.
Bradley: Yeah, and it's …
Hernan: Hi, what's up?
Bradley: Well, and Hernan. Yeah, what's up man?
Adam: Hey, Hernan. FYI, I'm not sure if it's WebinarJam, but your mic sounds really high. You might want to adjust the levels.
Hernan: I don't know why. I'll try to figure that out.
Bradley: You got to take the microphone out of your mouth.
Hernan: Oh, okay. That makes sense.
Bradley: Yeah, Video Power House is going to be crazy and we got people staff in place that are monitoring the submissions and making sure they go to the right categories. Like Marco said, it's crazy. We're going to have the support team behind it and all that. Guys, it's taken us … Shit, I think we announced it originally, over a year ago, didn't we? … Video Power House, or close to a year ago? It's been a long time, I know that. We've been working on it forever but it's getting guys, and it's going to be incredibly powerful so check that out. That said, Adam, since you are usually the one that gives announcements, we mentioned citations and Video Power House. Is there anything else needs to be mentioned?
Adam: I think that's it. If you're in the IFTTT/SEO Academy, you're going to be getting an email with a webinar just for you so by all means, come check it out. That's going to be tomorrow. Then our, what? Our Local Kingpin people have got a cool webinar going on tonight. I think you're going to be talking about a case study, right? … for the people who …
Adam: … are in the Local Kingpin?
Bradley: Yeah, I forgot to mention that. The Local Kingpin Update Webinar Number-2 is immediately following Hump Day Hangouts today. It's going to be mainly member Q&A other than a new case study announcement where Hernan and I are tag teaming a new case study in a different industry. A local case study, and we're going to be basically adding all that training to the Local Kingpin training site. Once that's done, once the second case study has been added, which will be in a couple months. It will be complete in a couple months, the price is definitely going up on that because it's a really, really good course. There's a ton of information in there, and this second case study, we're going to take a brand new business from the ground-up and build it, like for real … using Adwords … Adwords for video, remarketing, Bing advertising and Facebook ads for local. We're going to do that together and get this business off the ground.
It's for a local gym and that's going to be awesome because we're going to literally take a guy's business that's just got started and get him profitable and get leads coming in the door. That's going to be added to the training and that's again, we're going to announce that Local Kingpin Update Webinar-2 … the details of that. Then we're going to add the training to the membership site and then we'll do the results at the end of 60 days, roughly and the Update Webinar Number-3. Definitely check that out, guys. Also, we cover a lot of that kind of stuff inside the MasterClass on a bi-weekly basis. That's the ongoing case study group so if you guys are interested in getting that kind of detail like case studies where we go through step-by-step on how things are done and show results basically, in real-time, the Master Class is where you want to be for that.
Hernan: Yep. Can you guys hear me better now?
Hernan: It's better? I just wanted to add to what Bradley was saying about putting a completely-from-scratch case study, a success story completely from scratch. One of the challenges is to do it with a slow budget as possible. That was one of the conditions from the client. It's going to be a ton of fun because that way we can be working with that and progressing that, and investing the profits back into the campaign so that we can get a really good case study for you guys, so stay tuned. I think that's going to segue into whatever we are doing with Facebook, in terms of training in 2017, which is also going to be really, really good.
Bradley: I'm pretty excited about it because this is going to be really cool to take somebody's brand new business and help them to grow and get profitable quickly. That's awesome so I'm really looking forward to this, as well. This will be the first time Hernan and I have worked together on a project this closely in quite a while. We used to back in the day, couple years ago. We used to work on various projects a lot closer, more often but now we don't do it nearly as much so this will be kind of fun to get a chance to work with him, as well.
Bradley: All right, guys. I'm going to take the screen and we're going to get into questions. We're pretty much done on announcements. Correct?
Adam: I think so.
Bradley: All right, let me close out of all these various windows that I have opened that you guys don't need to see. Really, shut all the porn down. No, I'm kidding.
Adam: Bradley, can you or maybe you went over this before I got here, but did you go over how this works now, with the new setup for people? How they're supposed to post questions and all that?
Bradley: Yep. Basically, guys, just for one more time to re-cap, if you're not signed up for the Hump Day Hangout Series, which is now done through Semanticmastery.com/humpday. It will take you to a registration page. Go register then on the thank you page that it redirects you to after registration, there's a video. I explain what to do, but there's a button, a link above the video that says, “You can subscribe or register for the entire series.” All you got to do is click that one time and then go confirm your subscription. Then you'll get notifications for the next 52 weeks. Again, if at any time you don't want to be notified of the upcoming Hump Day Hangout, that's fine. You can unsubscribe at any time but in those notification emails will be the link every week to the event page so that you can post your questions early. Again, register, subscribe to the series. It's a two-step process. There's a video that explains how to do it. Then you will be notified every week of the upcoming webinar with the link to the event page for you to post your questions, okay?
Google AMP & Ranking
All right. That's said, let's do it. Lee's up first. He says, “Is Google Amp increase rank. Do you suggest Google Amp?” I'm going to hand that one to Marco.
Marco: Does it increase rank? It targets a different section of the algorithm. It's just totally geared towards that type of page. Really, what it works more on is something that's news-worthy, news-related, and things like that. We have a plug-in that does Amp, that does Amp Pages, and it does posts as Amp Pages. We're going to make it available. We have to make just a couple of tweaks to it. We had it ready, but then we discovered that there was a little bug in it that we needed to fix. We have it ready. The thing that I would tell you is test. It's what we always say. Take it. Use it. Use it the way it's supposed to. Go and look at the documentation. Google tells you everything about Amp and how to use it, what it's for. Lee, that's what I would say. Just go and look at the documentation and see what Google wants you to do with it. I mean, there are times where you do need to follow what Google says, and this is one of those instances.
Hernan: I just wanted to add real quick that the other day I was browsing on the mobile, on the phone, and I started noticing on the search engine result's pages on the search within Google. Yeah, within Google on the mobile phone, some of them will start showing little icon that's showing accelerated mobile pages. You know what I mean? It will start showing those results with a little icon to the left of it on the listing that says, “AMP,” or Accelerated Mobile Pages. I think it's a little lightening or something like that. That gives you the idea that Google is actually starting to index these pages and is starting to give them priority on mobile results. This is super important because most of your clients will be on mobile anyways, and you want your mobile versions to load as fast as possible. You know what I mean? That's why we are doing the AMP, the AMP thing. I started noticing that and I wanted to tell you guys to be aware of that.
Bradley: Very cool. Mark Kong was up next. He says, “Hey, guys. Hope you are all starting the year with a bang. I'm excited about this year and believe I will be able to finally join the Masterminds so looking forward to that.” I believe you will finally be able to join as well, Mark. That's all it takes, guys … is the belief that you can do it and you can make it happen. We look forward to having you, Mark. My question is, how are you indexing your citations? I still have quite a few not indexed and they were built a while ago, now. If I just copy and paste the URL of the citation page into Google and it doesn't show, does it mean that it's not indexed or may my link still be indexed? Cheers.
A couple things, Mark. Yeah, there's a lot of citations that are slow to index, or they don't index, or you won't see them in the backlink analysis tool such as Majestic, and Ahrefs and things like that. A lot of the times you won't see them. It's similarly to web to dot o links. It's very similar to that, in that a lot of the times, you will not see those backlinks in link analysis tools. A better way to find citations, to see if citations are recognized or indexed, as you call it because they don't have to be in Google's index for Google to know that they're there, just so you understand that … but a better way to determine whether your citations are being counted or found is to use a tool such as BrightLocal. That's the one that I use. I know there's another one that other people often use called, “Whitespark.ca,” I believe it is. I've been using BrightLocal for about six years. Well, at least five years. I don't plan on changing because I'm really familiar with BrightLocal. It's a great, great service. BrightLocal will show you. You know what it will do? Basically, a count of all of your citations that it can find on the web. It's not 100% accurate, either but it's a lot more accurate than link analysis tools are for finding citations.
The other thing is and remember, we talked about this many, many times because people always ask a similar questions when it comes to web two dot o links from the IFTTT network's not showing, but if you go into search console and you take a look. I don't remember which. It's one of the drop downs in the left-hand side bar, but if you look at “Links to Site.” Links to your site or something like that. You click on that and Google will show you what it's recognizing now. Within the last few months, and Terry Kyle did a blog post about this, but within the last few months Google has started to show less and less links than it used to. That doesn't mean that they're not still seeing them, though because my guess is a lot of those, you will still see in the search console area, but again just to double check to see if your citations are being counted, I would recommend using a citation service or, excuse me … a local marketing service such as BrightLocal or Whitespark, okay?
The other thing you can do, what I always do whenever I get citations from one of the services I would use, I would always just take the spreadsheet, copy all the profile URLs or the citations page URLs, whatever, and then put them into indexing services. I used multiple indexing services. However, during our mastermind webinar last week with our awesome link building manager, [Dadya 00:16:25], he expressed that Express Indexer, Express.indexer, I think it is or something like that. Let me see if I can find the link. I don't have an affiliate link for it, but it doesn't matter because these guys … I was using this … Hold on a minute. I can't talk and type at the same time, guys so excuse me. Expressindexer.solutions. Expressindexer.solutions.
He says that they are by far, the best indexing service that he's ever used and they recently, within about the last two months or so, they redid how their whole entire system and how they index links. He's getting an 80% indexing rate from Spam Links. We're talking GSA Links. GSA Spam Links, he's getting 80% indexing rate, which is phenomenal. I mean, that's unheard of. That's using this service, right here. I'm going to be using it. We already have a subscription to this. We have because we used to use this for ATM or Mass Page Generator sites, that type of stuff for indexing those sites, but I stopped using it because we haven't been building many of those sites recently, but apparently now, this is the best service available so I'm going to be using this a lot more. Check it out. All right?
Thoughts On Serplify
Next. Phoenix Car Accident Chiropractor. That's a mouth full. Have you guys seen the new Serpify by Mo Miah et al? It's a Serp Shaker-type software. There's a YouTube video. Yeah, I've heard about it. We've had a bunch of people already message us asking us what we think. I don't have an opinion on it. I probably won't ever have an opinion on it because I'm not going to test it only because if I'm going to be building mass page generator sites, I'm going to be using the ATM … Lead Gadgets and the ATM just because I have a history with those guys and that software, and I know it well. I don't need another one. Personally, I've had some bad experience with some other software in the past. I don't know. I can't speak about this one in particular. Serpify, I have no idea but there's a bunch of different types of mass page generators out there now. As far as I know from the ones that I have tested, there's no competition. The ATM is by far the best. It is rather expensive, though. It's more for agency-level people. You got to take that into consideration, as well.
You guys want to comment on this, at all? Has anybody looked at this?
Marco: No, I don't have time. I have too much stuff going on, man. I wish I had some time to check it out and be able to tell people, “Yes,” or “No.” Sorry, if anyone has tried it though and they have an opinion, you're welcome …
Bradley: Post it.
Marco: … to let us know.
Adam: Yeah, we'd be happy Definitely, we could have somebody on and if you've got some experience, we'll talk to you ahead of time but yeah, sure. For me, I'd just look. I'd be like, “Well, I don't know if it's going to be better, but if you're not looking for something automated like the ATM,” which I would say, “Maybe you should be.” How about, I don't know? I'd like to see the differences from that and maybe Serp Shaker because I'm sure this is a plug-in, probably.
Bradley: I'm not sure how it works but like I said, I'm just not. If I'm going to do mass page generator, like mass page sites I'm going to use ATM because I'm comfortable with it and I've been using it for, shit … over two years, now. That's what I'm going to stick with. I'm not really going to test one of the new tools just because there's a learning curve involved and I just don't need another one. You know what I mean? That's like Keyword Tools. I probably have, no shit … at least a dozen Keyword Tools. I don't know why I have so many of them because I only ever use Google Trends, Power Suggest Pro, and the Keyword Planner anyways. I don't know why I have so many damn keyword tools, but every time one comes out, they make a million promises and I always pick it up because I want to check it out. There you go. Money wasted … Now, they collect digital dust.
Marco: Nothing. Just to get in there about that keyword research. Nothing beats, as far as I'm concerned, Power Suggest Pro.
Bradley: I totally agree.
Adam: I was going to say, Bradley, you put that link for your training stuff you did. I think that's still a good one. I've sent people there before.
Bradley: Yeah, it's dated now. Just go to Keywordsuggest.io, Keywordsuggest.io. You can opt in. It's free, guys and then I'd good to go through keyword research training and exactly how I use the tools that are freely available. I do talk about obviously, Power Suggest Pro because it's super, super awesome. It's cheap and inexpensive with a one-time cost. You'd be stupid not to pick it up. If you ever need keywords, Power Suggest Pro is awesome, but Keywordsuggest.co, you can opt in and then it will redirect you to the training site where you can go through the keyword research training that I did. It's a bit dated but the principles are still the same, guys. They're tried and true timeless principles, so to speak. All right?
Any Issues With Burner App On Phone
Katie's up next. “Hi, guys. Couple quick things. First, I'm testing out Mega-Ray. Was impressed. I put in a ticked and they called me on the phone.” That's fantastic. I know Jude and the developers. They have quite a support team behind them. That's another reason why we promoted that product because I know how much development and support is behind that product guys. We'll report back after some tests. I'll be glad to hear it, anxious to hear what your results are.
Next, “Anyone have issues with the Burner App on phone sometimes not working with Google. Coming back and saying that number's not valid?” Yes, that is a known problem or issue. That is a problem. In fact, we have even started having issues with our VA's in the Philippines using SIM cards for phone verifying brand-new accounts. What's interesting is if you have a Google account that you need to add a recovery phone number to. You've already got the Google account. Let's say you already have a Google account, and you need to add a recovery phone number to it, or you want to enable YouTube Livestream, live streaming from YouTube like YouTube Live events. You need to enable that, or become YouTube Partner Verified. Whatever. You can use a Burner App for any of those instances, a Burner App phone number for any of those instances and it will work fine. It just won't work on registering the Gmail address for the first time, when you're creating the Gmail account. It doesn't work there, but if you can get it created and then add your own phone number for recovery options or enabling live streaming, that sort of thing, those numbers will still work fine.
What's the solution? What we've been doing is I've been going through. My bookmarks are still screwed up. Let me see if I can find it real quick. Here we go. This should be it here. Son-of-a-bitch, my bookmarks are all screwed up. MetroBiz, Kendrick Nair posted it the last time. Let me see if I can find it real quick. If I can't, I'll try to post it on later. There it is, Bulkpva.com and I know I've got it bookmarked. I just got to put it in the right place. This guy right here, this is the guy that I buy all of our Gmail accounts from now, guys … Phone verified Gmail accounts. It's from this one, Bulkpva.com. I've sent this dude a lot of business because we buy a ton of them for our network builders, for the IFTTT Done For You, IFTTT networks and stuff like that as well as any time I need him for my own projects, now. I just buy them from him. He sends you a spreadsheet with the phone verified accounts with the recovery options and all that kind of stuff.
The trick is once you get them back, you need to log in and bind them to your IP or to your Proxies, if you're using Proxies like for example, if you're using BrowSEO. As soon as you get those back, within 72 hours, you want to try to log into every one of those accounts that you get, but that's all we do now is purchase the accounts. It's too much. It takes too much time and effort to try to phone verify your own accounts now, guys. It's so much cheaper to have somebody else just do it for you. Buy 25 or 50 at a time, try to long into them all, but so what. For how cheap they are, and the amount of headache and time it will save you to have some available for whenever you need them, it's totally worth it. Spend a few bucks. Pick them up. That guy's a good guy. He'll replace them if they're not working once, right after he delivers them. After a few days he won't replace them, but he's just a good dude and again, I don't mind sending him business. He'll take care of you.
Setting Up Silo Structure For Local Cities In YouTube
Finally, “Just watched the YouTube SEO Course. Great stuff. How would you recommend YouTube structure for local cities? Do you agree with others that say, “Channel name equals keyword plus USA, then playlist equals keyword plus State, and then video title equals keyword plus counties, and in description to put in the cities?” If not, what channel or silo structure do you recommend? Finally, how many silos per site? Thanks. Happy New Year.” All right, that's a long question. There's a few things in there. First of all, I wouldn't create a playlist on a State-level and then do video titles via county-level because typically, that's not. First of all, a State playlist could be a rather large playlist, and other than having just the State in common with all the videos in that playlist, there could be a lot of difference like topical differences, niche differences, industry difference. Because of that, the only common denominator or theme among all of those in a playlist would be the State, which I think it too broad.
Now, typically what I will do, and I don't usually do this with YouTube Channels but basically, when I'm siloing out a website for a contractor that covers a large service area or something like that, is I will create the silos based on counties. The playlist would be a county-based playlist. Then the video titles would be the keyword plus city. The reason I say that is because most people don't search for service plus county. Most people when they search Google, they search service plus city, or keyword plus city. With local intent, most of the time it's going to be a city-based search, not a county-based search. Because of that, you should be targeting the city name and the video title, which is the SEO title. That's because that's the most important place for the keyword. If you want to rank for a city, typically you're going to want to target the city in the title.
I would generally do playlist in one of two ways. I would either create a playlist based on a specific city, or a country if I'm going to be covering multiple locations within the county. For example: Fairfax County, Virginia it has I believe, 23 cities within that county. I might have a playlist for Fairfax County, Virginia. Then I would have individual videos in there, but Fairfax, Virginia, which is Fairfax is also a city in Fairfax County. It's the City of Fairfax. That might have 50 different businesses in it, so why not have a City of Fairfax playlist. Does that make sense? It's just about containers, building containers. All a playlist is, is a container. You got to think about whatever you put in that container, it should be relevant to the other items in that container. The hierarchy in how you build that is really going to depend on the specific project.
I can't tell you specifically without knowing more details about what you're trying to do, but you got to think about it logically. Again, I would do a playlist based upon a city and have multiple videos in that because I'm targeting different niches in that city. Again, the common denominator being the city, or I'll target by county if it's for the same business or the same industry. I'll targe by county, the playlist by county. I'll build a playlist or the silo as a county-based silo. Then all the individual videos will be keyword plus city name within that county and/or I will build a playlist based around a niche, an industry. Then place various videos in that niche-based or industry-based playlist, which is just another silo. By the way, you can add the same video in more than one playlist.
If it makes sense for example, let's say that you've got 15 plumbing clients across the State of Virginia. You also have various clients in all different industries, as well. You could have in Fairfax, Virginia you could have a Fairfax playlist that you have all the various businesses that you service or that you serve in Fairfax, in that playlist, but then you could also have a plumbing playlist, a playlist for plumbers, plumbing services, whatever. In that one, you also have the Fairfax plumber as well as plumbers from all over the State of Virginia. You would end up having that Plumber from Fairfax video on two different playlists. The Fairfax playlist, as well as the Plumber Playlist because it makes sense to do so.
Just remember that. I can't give you the exact structure without knowing more details. I can tell you typically, a playlist on a State-level is going to be a bit too broad unless you're narrowing in on one specific industry and that's all the videos in your entire channel are going to be about that one industry, in which case then you might want to do playlist by state because you probably have less overall videos in each playlist. I don't know if that makes sense, but hopefully I explained that in a way that you all could understand.
Anybody want to comment on that at all? That was a bit complicated.
Marco: I would just add that if she does proper SEO, she's going to geolocate her video anyway. She's going to add that so all of the other things that you could add to it would just be Google is going to know what the geolocation of the video anyway, if you're doing your proper SEO with the video.
Bradley: Just remember that guys. The easiest way to think about a silo is it's just nothing other than a container. Everything that you put in that container should be similarly themed. They should be relevant to the other items within that container in some way, shape or form. It's up to you to decide as to what the relevancy is and how to create those containers, and what to place in those containers.
Using A Buffer Site Before Using Crowdsearch.Me For A Google Partner Site Like Diigo
Greg's up next. “When using Crowd Search Me for wanting traffic,” we're having issues with them right now, just so you know. “When using Crowd Search Me for wanting traffic to come into our site from Google partner like Diigo, do we need to start at a buffer site to start with the search and bring the traffic into the Google partner then to our site? Use Tumblr to go to Diigo and enter the website, or can we start with Diigo directly? Thanks.”
You can do both, Greg. Honestly, you'd be better off to set up both so that you have some variety or diversity in the traffic. Remember I call this, “CT Spam,” Click-Through Spam. That's what it is. We're spamming the click-through rate. There's nothing wrong with that. Technically, it's probably against the Terms of Service but, whatever. What do you call that, Marco? An unapologetic spammer. He's an unapologetic spammer.
Marco: You got that right.
Bradley: That's what we do. As far as that, Greg, I would do both.
Marco: Unapologetic and unrepentant.
Bradley: Unrepentant. You can do both, Greg. Most of the time for speed's sake, I've set them up. Just go direct from a social site to wherever I want to send ultimately, the traffic end up for social referral traffic, it usually goes to a money site. Well, same thing for YouTube videos, as well. It's up to you, Greg. It really doesn't matter. You can do both and in fact, again I recommend that you do both so that you can add some diversity to your traffic streams.
Alexa To Ramp Up Voice Search Results
Bryan's up. “Have you any suggestions how to use Alexa to ramp up voice search results?” There has to be a way to speak to Alexa. Is that the Amazon thing? What is Alexa? Let's see. I'm thinking of … what is “ramp up voice search results”? I'm not sure I understand what he's trying to manipulate here? “Ask questions. I would think that people also ask her something. Big, underlying voice search?” I'm not sure what the question is, Bryan. I'm not 100%. Anybody else go in and try to interpret this for me?
Hernan: No. Yeah, I don't understand it either. Bryan, if you could reframe it or re-ask it? The only Alexa I know is the directory where you can get how many …
Bradley: I don't know if that has anything to do with voice search. That's this. I was thinking. What's that stupid thing? Amazon Echo. Is that what it is? The thing people buy and they sit and they talk, and they say, “Amazon, buy whatever,” or what the hell is it called? I don't know. I don't have it so that's what I thought he was talking about. Yeah, I'm not sure what you're saying, Bryan. To be honest, I don't know what you're as far as “ramp up voice search results”. “There's something big underlying voice search, If you can tell it what questions you want to be found on, I think it can be huge. Care to comment or suggest.” Again, I'm not sure, Bryan. As far as trying to get ranked for questions, that is the Hummingbird Algorithm, the Hummingbird Layer to the algorithm. It was added, damn … it's been three years, now. Hasn't it? It's been three years since Hummingbird was introduced, which is crazy. That's specifically what that was for was more complex search queries mainly driven because of voice search, because of mobile devices.
That's really what the birth of Hummingbird was for, was because of people asking or speaking their search queries in and that they're naturally more complex because they're speaking instead of typing, and because of that, the Hummingbird Algorithm was added or the layer was added to the algorithm to try to help understand those more complex queries and match them with the content that would best solve that user's search. Again, if you want to try to target that specifically, voice search, I don't know how that works in the background, but when you talk your voice search in, all it does is transcribe it to text anyways, and then it searches that text. You can manipulate the questions, basically the Hummingbird Algorithm. You can manipulate that by posting questions in your content and then answering those questions. That, you can see over and over and over again through Knowledge Graph answers.
When you guys ask a question into Google, whether via by voice search or by typing it in. Usually, when you start to type a question in, what do you do? You see Google suggest auto complete, and you end up selecting one of the questions anyways. You click on that, most of the time you're going to see a Knowledge Graph answer or an answer in Knowledge Graph on the top of the search results, which is just coming from one of the pages listed on page one. It's because somebody wrote the question out in the content and then answered the question. Knowledge Graph I believe, at least it used to be, you didn't even really have to have the structured data in place for that to be pulled in, although now, you probably have to have it marked up. Marco, you're testing a lot of shit with that right now. Do you have any comments on that.
Marco: Yeah. I'm planning on making the Knowledge Graph by bit.
Bradley: Well, there you go Bryan. The Knowledge Graph is going to be Marco's bitch. I hope that answered your question.
Hernan: This reminds me. Sorry Bradly, but if you guys, I don't know if you guys have ever watched “If Google Was a Guy” series. I don't know if you ever watched those video, Bradley. “If Google was a Guy”, just search for it on YouTube. It's on YouTube. It's super fun and it's a parody of what would happen if Google was a guy behind a desk answering questions. It's a lot of fun. At some point, it gets super weird with the voice search. It's a lot of fun so if you guys want to go ahead and after the webinar, go ahead and check it out. “If Google was a Guy”. There's five or six episodes, something like that. It's super fun.
Bradley: Bryan, sorry. I'm not sure where the Alexa thing came into all that, but if you can clarify. I'm kind of curious now.
Public Library in Diigo
Jordan's up next. He says, “Yo. Can anyone remind me how to make Diigo Library public facing? Is that possible?”
Marco: Jordan, before you answer, I'd like to give a Jordan a shout out because he's so active in our IFTTT Academy, the 2.0 Facebook Group, just answering questions, sharing so Jordan, thank you for everything you do, man. Just keep it up. Just keep ranking and taking over niches.
Bradley: I'm not sure, Jordan why you're having any issues with that because when you set up the Applet. Let's go to Applets real quick, and we set up new applet. Say if this. We'll just use a feed. New feed item. We're just going to walk through this real quick guys. Give me a second. Semanticmastery.com/feed. We'll just go with the default feed for now. Create trigger. Then we're going to select “Diigo” here. Now, right here … Add a Public Bookmark. When you set up the account, the applet if you add a public bookmark, it should be default because of what you select here, add it to your public bookmark library. I'm not sure what you mean by that, Jordan. If you were using the recipes or the “Applets” as they're called now, which I know you've got plenty of experience. This is really just for everybody else's benefit. If you select the Add a Public Bookmark, it should automatically be public. I'm not sure what the problem is unless something has changed recently that I'm unaware of, if you can clarify that.
How To Run IFTTT 2-Tier Network Properties In Serp Space?
Will's up. “Hi, Bradley. Two newbie questions about IFTTT. I just purchased my full two-tiered network from Serp Space Marketplace. The first posts from my site has been syndicated and the management dash, I see that over half the properties are showing Not Yet Checked. What do I need to do to get them up and running?” What does that mean, Adam … in Serp Space?
Adam: Sorry. One more time. I'm dealing with support tickets about some stuff.
Bradley: He says, “I purchased my first full two-tier network from Serp Space. The first two posts from my site has been syndicated. In the management dashboard, I see that over half the properties are showing as Not Yet Checked. What do I need to get them up and running?”
Adam: I'm guessing then that he's using IFTTT Network Management in which case, if you just got that then it may not have literally checked them yet. It takes time. They don't immediately check all properties right away. That way we don't have issues. I would give it 24 hours if you still have that. Put a ticket in at support or email [email protected]
Bradley: Yeah, the other thing is try posting another post to your blog and let it syndicate because again, just similar to when you first setup an IFTTT Network, sometimes the first post or even two or three of the first posts don't end up syndicating to all the networks properly. It's called, “Priming the Network.” Priming the pump, basically. It's something that just happens. I'm not sure why, but sometimes you have to post two or three posts before all of the triggers fire correctly anyways. It may be something to do with that, Will. Just go ahead and post another post if you can and check it then. If for whatever reason you're not seeing reporting like it's supposed to be, just contact [email protected] I don't have my hands in that project very much. Adam's been managing that with our partners in that business quite a bit. I really don't have a lot of answers for that. Sorry, but support will take care of you. We've got a lot of support staff there now.
How To Make Use Of 3 Persona Rings In IFTTT?
Next one. “I recently heard you on a webinar saying not to syndicate posts from the money site beyond the first tier branded ring because of footprint issues.” That is correct. “I immediately went and disconnected the three persona rings. Please, could you advise what I should be doing with them now, and how can they be put to good use?” Well, this has been covered so many damn times, I'm not picking on you. I'm just saying this has been covered so many times on Hump Day Hangouts, it's absolutely one of the most frequently asked questions we get. That said, if you go to Support.semanticmastery.com, Support.semanticmastery.com that's where our Knowledge Graph base is. There's an IFTTT SEO Academy section. In there are a bunch of frequently asked questions. I know this question's got to be in there at least two or three different times where I've answered it two or three different ways because this is a question that has been coming up for two years over, and over, and over again.
Very, very quickly I can say that the reason why we hadn't been recommending two-tier networks was because there are footprint issues on the persona-based networks the second tier networks if you don't have related content from other sources being published on a regular basis to the second-tier networks, which is why if you have a two-tier network you should be injecting for a blog syndication I mean, a two-tier network for blog syndication, you should be adding additional content or additional related content RSS feeds to the tier 2 triggers. You log into the IFTTT account on tier 2 so that there'd be tier 2A, tier 2B, tier 2C. There would be three IFTTT accounts that you would log into and setup another set of recipes for each related content source so that you're publishing additional content to tier 2 from other sources, related content.
Topically relevant content, but that's a nightmare. It's a pain in the ass. It's hard to maintain. It's hard to manage so I've been recommending against that forever until RSS Masher came out, which is Daemon Nelson's product that's awesome. It's one of the only things that I've seen that can simply that process and make it a viable option to be posting blog syndication on your two-tier networks. Again, I don't know if that offer's still open, but I know we had a sweet deal from Daemon that people from our list could continue to purchase. I don't know if we have that link, but if you want to drop it will …
Adam: Yeah. It's up. It looks like it is. I'll put it in.
Bradley: That's awesome. That's the only thing I have. Until RSS Masher, I'd been recommending against it. Now, if you're using RSS Masher, I see it as giving us the ability to simplify blog syndication on tier 2 networks to where it's more manageable. It's still more work, there's no doubt. There's still more work to do that, but it will minimize your footprint. It will simplify that process and make it more manageable. Easier to maintain. As far as that, if you don't have that and you don't plan on using that, you can still use those three persona rings. Again, you just got to add additional content sources in as tier 2 triggers or just use them for video syndication or something like that. If you don't want to tie them back to your blog at all, which is fine, you could use them for video syndication or you could use them for any other projects that you got coming up.
Jame's up. “Hi, guys. It's been a little while since I have submitted a question, but been on the sideline absorbing your greatness.” I will plus-one that. “I see Marco is still looking tanned, cute and bear-like.”
Marco: I will plus-one that.
Thoughts On Bing Having More B2B Conversion But Lesser Traffic Than Google
Bradley: That's awesome. “Anyway, here's my question. Question 1: I noticed through testing that Bing seems to be more lucrative for acquiring b2b projects, as it appears that most corporates tend to be stocked up with the pre-loaded Internet Explorer and Bing as the default search engine. Do you think that the future for a more sizeable project will not be coming from Google but from Bing, as it has a higher conversion rate with less traffic but higher quality? Should we therefor, not be looking at targeting our efforts to Google for b2c, for Business 2 Consumer, and Bing, for b2b?
Question 2: Is there a way to address [Amp 00:45:16] Pages production? Is there a technique for pushing them to Google News? Keep up the great work. Jane.” Okay, Jane, I'll let Marco answer the second questions but for the first question, I'm not sure what you're asking for about with that specifically other than should we be focusing somewhat on Bing? My answer to that is absolutely, yes. I only know that because I just recently for the case study, it's an affiliate project, that I'm doing for the Master Class. For Master Class, we have a live case study going on right now. It's an affiliate project and I'm just crushing it. I'm doing really, really well with generating traffic right now. I'm doing all paid traffic. Nothing organic, at least at the moment. It's just strictly paid traffic, and I've been Google AdWords. A few weeks ago I decided to start playing around in Bing Ads and I'm getting really good results from Bing Ads … like really good results.
My cost per conversion is lower than my Google cost per conversions. It's working really, really well. I know Bing is absolutely something that should be added. It shouldn't be overlooked. All too often, we overlook Bing and Bing and Yahoo together now, make up for it's about a-third of the search traffic. That's a significant amount of traffic. I know Hernan said that it's like a different demographic often, and it sounds like Jane, you're kind of confirming that, that it may be the older demographic, 45-plus crowd that is heavy on the Bing Network, but it also could be a lot more corporate stuff, as well. That makes sense to me because you're right. A lot of the computers and network services and stuff like that are all Microsoft-based, so that very well could be true and I had never even thought about that.
I know to ignore Bing is really stupid, in my opinion. Now, for SEO it's been difficult because if you're optimizing for Google, that usually didn't translate well into Bing. Bing, you could get away with a hell of a lot more for on-page stuff, you could keyword stuff a lot more, your keyword density could be a lot higher. You could for back links, for off-page stuff you could do a hell of a lot more exact match anchors and that would rank. Using Exact Match Domain in Bing will help you to rank in Bing really easily. There's a lot of things that you could get away with in Bing that you can't in Google.
Typically, if we optimize for Google, you end up not optimized very well for Bing because you're not over-optimized like Bing likes, I guess. Strictly from a paid standpoint, a paid traffic standpoint, it's absolutely silly to ignore Bing in my opinion because it's basically a close of the Adwords dashboard, if not a little bit funkier. It's no doubt the Bing dashboard is a little bit funkier than Adwords, but it's damn near identical. If you know how to run PPC Campaigns in Adwords, you can do it in Bing and you'll probably get results similar to what I'm seeing, which is going to be really good traffic and a good amount of leads. Lower cost per conversion, that sort of thing.
Marco, do you want to take Question 2?
Marco: Yeah. Question 2 is simple because what our plug-in does is it turns the page into Amp automatically. It delivers the page as an Amp page. There's no page production. All you have to do is upload the page into the website if you're doing whatever it is that you're doing. Our plug-in will turn it into an AMP page. What we're doing also, and I have to make that available, is that if you're posting it will make a post into an AMP page. That takes care of any production. Is there a technique for pushing them to Google News? Unless you have a recognized news site, it's really difficult to get into Google News. I don't see a way of tricking. I haven't looked into it.
I haven't looked into the algorithm and how to trick Google into accepting just any website into Google News, but it might be something worth looking into. If you haven't joined the AMP creators mastermind on Facebook, I suggest that you do so because I will make that plug-in available shortly. We have two versions. I'm going to make at least one of them available in the next few days. I hope that answers the question. I would agree with her on the first part. Just absolutely that Bing has less traffic, but it's a higher conversion rate. The client is usually worth more because of the demographic, so yes to that question, also.
Bradley: Awesome. Thank you. We only got about three minutes left because we've got to get ready for the local Kingpin Update Webinar but we're going to try to run through a couple more very, very quickly.
Would It Cause Some YouTube Account Issues If There Are Activities From 2 Sources?
Robert says, “Bradley, if I have,” and Happy New Year to you, as well … “a YouTube account that's built with BrowSEO that are set up on different IPs and a good standing in age with supporting two-tier accounts, etc I intend to continue using these accounts within BrowSEO. If I think put them in the Mega-Ray, same YouTube accounts, wouldn't that create a problem for my accounts?” Robert, I assume it would but I don't know for sure. What I would suggest is don't test it with one of your aged accounts that you've been building a digital footprint with inside of BrowSEO. I would not do that.
Guys, a digital footprint is a good thing, now. It really is as long as you're not spamming. That's what BrowSEO allows us to do is build digital footprints for our personas, which is incredibly powerful. That said, Robert, what I would do is take a new channel and try it in both. What I'm saying is put it in BrowSEO, assign it to a proxy, and IP, whatever. Log in, do a little bit of activity, watch a couple of videos, like a couple videos, that kind of stuff and then add it to Mega-Ray, and then start trying to post on it and see if it causes a problem. If it locks the account, ask for reverification then you know it's a problem, but it's a new account then and you're not losing an aged account.
I would test that. I can't give you an answer because I don't know. I assume it would cause a problem, yes. Like you said, you answered your own question. My assumption is that is a correct guess or a correct assumption but I don't know without testing so I would suggest you test that with a new account so that if you lost it, it's not a big deal. “If that is the case, the problem from two sources then my best option if I decide to use Mega-Ray is to populate it with all the YouTube accounts, tiers, etc.” Yes, and that's what I would do, Robert because I would be using those accounts more for spam purposes then I would be for aged accounts like I would be building in BrowSEO anyways so because of that, I would basically buy a whole bunch of YouTube accounts from MetroBiz, the one I just showed earlier on this webinar. For real, I'd buy them all from him and then I would go and I would add all those accounts into Mega-Ray.
“Also, what is your real take on Mega-Ray?” It's awesome. I've mentioned this before. We did a promotion for Video Marketing Blitz, which is Abs' product. Ab is a great developer. I've been buying his products literally, for five or six years now, no kidding. Abs' got great products, except Video Marketing Blitz is complex because there's a ton of tools and so there's a learning curve. Very, very powerful no doubt, but there's a learning curve. Mega-Ray is incredibly simple. Very, very powerful. Think of it this way. It's like Syndwire on steroids. It really is. It's like an enterprise-level Syndwire. It also except that as far as the posting goes, posting within Mega-Ray is a lot easier than it is within Syndwire. Syndwire, there's a lot of manual work. That's kind of the reason why I just stopped using it. Mega-Ray is a lot more automated. It's a great product. There's no doubt or we wouldn't have promoted it. I know there's a lot of development behind them and a good support staff.
We got to go, guys. I do want to just very, very quickly cover Darrel's question about SocioLinks. That's Abs' product. We were just talking about Video Marketing Blitz. Abs' product, the new one is out. It's called, “SocioLinks.” I'm really surprised he didn't reach out to us and ask us to be a JV or an affiliate for him because we usually do well promoting his products because we all believe in his products and think that he's got good products. For whatever reason, we're not an affiliate for it. I haven't tested it. I can tell you though, pretty much everything that he puts out is good product. I don't say that about a lot of developers. If Abs put it out, my guess says it's probably a really good product, Darrel. I don't have an opinion on it because I didn't get a chance to test it, and I'm mad at Abs for that, but that's it.
All right? We got to wrap it up guys.
Hernan: Bye, everyone. Thank you.
Adam: Have a good one.
Bradley: Yeah, thanks everybody for being here. We'll see you all … Just a few minutes.
Marco: Bye, everyone.