Adam: Hey, we are live now. Welcome everybody to Hump Day Hangouts Episode 270. Today is the 15th of January. We're over what halfway through the month. So halfway through the first month of the year, and we are rocking on with Hump Day Hangouts. And wouldn't you know it my mom is calling me right as I get started? Alright, and this is where I'm going to put it face down over there. So we're going to keep rolling with this instead of hopping on a phone call with mom. But let's instead of speaking to her say hi to everybody and see what's going on. So, Bradley, you're up top on my screen. How are you doing today?
Bradley: I'm well, man.
Adam: Use three adjectives to describe how you're doing today.
Bradley: Well, things are good. I've got several things popping in my real estate business right now, which is kind of exciting. And we got 2xyouragency or double your agency coming up next week starting that and that's been fun kind of preparing for that. So I got a lot of cool things to share.
Adam: Good deal. All right. Hernan? How about you? You're jumping up and down. So hopefully things are going well.
Hernan: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. doing real good. It's good to be here. Dude, your mom doesn't know that we do have the Hangout every Wednesday at 3pm Eastern?
Adam: you know, she could have been calling to be like Adam, you know, have a great Hump Day Hangout. You're going to be great. You're all right.
Hernan: We've been doing this for the past five years to come on. Now. I really, I'm really excited about what's coming. I'm really excited about the launch of 2xyouragency, this is going to be awesome. We have some really good stuff planned for everyone that wants to learn how to increase their revenue, get more agency clients. So if you own a digital agency, stay tuned, because this is going to be awesome. As usual, we will try to disrupt the industry. So we're going to so this is not going to be any different. So it's going to be awesome. Stay tuned. It's launching soon.
Adam: Yeah, you know, I think something to that. Someone of the POFU Live attendees said to us, or rather, he wrote it I believe is on Hump Day Hangouts. But I like this one. I'm going to run with it. He said We're the unicorns of Internet Marketing. So there you go. That's that needs to be plastered all over me.
Hernan: Give me a little unicorn put at the top of Hump Day hangouts at the camel to the unicorn.
Adam: The camel corn. So, okay, before we go totally off the deep end, Marco, how are you doing today? What's up, man?
Marco: I'm doing good. If I can just take some dissolute a little bit of time, and I gotta pull that up. Because I got to share this with people. The charity is doing really well by the donation drive. But what we've come up with is just a way for people to benefit from donating to the charity. And lo and behold, I can't find it. But I mean, we have a whole list of things that we're giving away. As a matter of fact ,you and Hernan each donated up to half-hour slots right? For one person and I'm not going to share my screen but I know Bradley donated an hour I donated two hours of my time so what two people are going to get an hour with me then Rob donated an hour, not only that, we're going to tack teach someone for an hour.
Rob and I get them going in in the right direction as far as their online presence and everything that they're doing is concerned. Jeffrey Smith donated an hour. Steven Kang from the Facebook group the SEO signals lab he donated, he's going to take you through whether the potential ROI for whatever it is that whatever market you're in. So he says nobody else has what he does. So whatever that is, Kang is a beast. And we have that.
We're giving away drive stacks, we're giving away SEO shield, Syndication Academy. And so if you haven't donated, right, for whatever reason, now would be a perfect time to donate. So you can catch the next webinar, which is the giveaway webinar. And I keep talking to people. Oh, before I forget Jeremy from Press Advantage donated, three done for you press releases, so three people are each going to get a done for you press release. So you can see what this is all about, in case you're curious. Or if you use them, whatever. And this is, this is randomized, we already have it, where it's going to be randomized. Once you win a prize, you're no longer available for any other prize. So that as many people as possible can benefit from all this. And I'm leaving a whole lot. I mean, we have a list and I wasn't able to find the page. But just so everyone knows. I mean it's just a whole bunch of just great information. A whole bunch of things that I'm sharing that I wouldn't share otherwise and since people have donated to my favorite charity it's my way of giving back and then on top of it, as if that weren't enough as if giving your life like the key the keys to the kingdom but for me we were putting a cherry on top by giving you even more so there. I just want to get that in guys. Go donate I'll drop the donation page if that's good enough to get you going. I don't know what it is.
Adam: that's awesome. Yeah, I know is a great result over the holidays you can leading up to it and as Marco said, I'm not gonna go on and on about this but you're definitely helping out a good cause. And hey, at the same time you get to help yourself so it's win-win. Chris How you doing man?
Chris: Doing good. Just packing stuff. leaving tomorrow alone. So super excited.
Adam: Where are you going?
Chris: To the very number one to the tallest mountain of Austria and on that and on the backside. So no internet, no nothing. And yeah, I'm super happy about it. I'm part-time that I take some time off digital detox, how they call it. So yeah, super happy.
Adam: Alright, well sounds good. We just got a few things we need to run through before we get into questions here. And speaking of questions, if you're just joining us for the first time, thank you so much for being here. This is the place to be every Wednesday at 4pm. Eastern, you can ask your questions. I do have to say if you're asking questions, we try to keep them pretty short and succinct. If you ask a really tough question or a lot of questions in a series, we can't get to them. We might have to skip it if we have time. Maybe we can come back but we always tell people to limit it to one question and then if you're attending live you know you can come back and ask more you know, after that, we just want to make sure that everyone gets a chance. I know today we had at least one really in-depth kind of multi-part question come up. So wanted to say you know that we're going to be able to answer what we can but some of that stuff goes into way more detail than we would even have the time to answer here. So make sure you guys keep it as short as you can. But we do appreciate all the questions.
And like Hernan said, I want to touch base on this again, because next week, we're going to be doing something a little bit differently next Wednesday just for the intro. Next week 2xagency is going to be kicking off. So as Bradley said, Hernan said we're excited about it. But we're going to be talking a little bit more about that again, explaining you know, exactly what you can expect from that. And then there's definitely definitely a very special chance for people who are subscribers who attend Hump Day Hangouts at finding out more about that, but Hernan you mentioned it real quick, but do you want to tell people a bit more, you know, just kind of who this is for and what we're intending to go with this?
Hernan: Yeah. 100% So, um, so we're really excited about it. And the reason why is because, for the past couple of years, most of our audience has been mostly digital agency owners in one capacity or another. Maybe you have a couple of clients, maybe you have two to three clients, and you want to take it to five to 10 clients. Or maybe you're dealing with a whole team, you're going, you know, you're going out hard and have like 20 clients and the team of VAs and whatnot. And whatever that is right now, in order for you to take it to the next level, you need to learn new skill sets, maybe it is to prospect a little bit better that is to always have your pipeline full of new leads that want to talk to you that want to hire you. Or maybe it is delegating a little bit better, right? You cannot do it all on your own. So just imagine if you were from five clients to 15 clients in a week, there's a high chance that you will potentially go crazy. So how do you solve that? Right?
So basically, we sat down and we asked the audience, what they wanted. And one of the main things was I need more clients, I want to get more clients, I want to get more productive, I want to double my revenue. So that's where Double Your Agency Come come to play. So it's going to be a really in-depth program where we're going to take people that have a couple of clients again and want to, you know, get those 5-10 clients that they want, or maybe they want to completely revamp their business. I'm going to be showing you how to do it through paid advertising, SEO, PPC on Google, Facebook ads and whatnot. We're going to be teaching you stuff that you can deploy for your current clients and you can charge more money. Last but not least, how could how to actually build your team, delegate and set up processes and whatnot. Remember guys that we have like 20 plus VA right now working for MGYB. So we kind of know our stuff when it comes to generating process. Hiring those VA is where hot VA is working with us for the past five years, growing your personal brand so it's all going to be there. It's gonna be pretty awesome. And yeah, really excited to get that going.
Adam: Sounds good. Definitely. We will have more coming out on that. If you haven't and you're watching live you can sign up, put the link down below to get an early notification that that will definitely pay off. I highly suggest you do that. And also wanted to mention that if you have not gotten MGYB emails, you should head over to MGYB sign up, we got some really cool things that you can get for free if you're not quite ready to take advantage of all the great done for you services over there. But right now there is a sale going on only for MGYB subscribers 25% off all link building and embeds, which is awesome. I think we've already had, I don't know, 10 or 15 people already taking advantage of that today. So you get 25% off a little bit of flash sale celebrating the beginning of the year helping people out with their projects. So I'll pop that info onto the page here. And you can go and grab that stuff. So with that said, Did we get anything else before we get into questions, guys?
Marco: Yeah, well, one more anyone donating will have access to all of the past webinars and last year's webinar. So even if you think about that, you're only going to catch the last webinar that's not so you're going to catch all of them for just a simple donation. And as I said before, I'm not asking for any amount said before your heart is going to dictate whether you donate and your wallet is, of course, going to say how much you can donate. So I don't want to put anyone out. Just do what you can.
Adam: Sounds good. Alright guys, let's do it.
Bradley: Sweet. Alright, let me figure out where I'm supposed to be here. Okay, I think you're seeing my screen correct?
Do You Allow Pingbacks From IFTTT Network Sites To Your Money Site?
Marco: I have nothing recent for that, man. I stopped doing that. So here's the thing. I'm not saying that they don't work or that they do work. They did have their place. But we moved on to something else, right? It could be that people coming in and interacting with the website, and getting all of that activity will have a signal for Google a positive signal. But since that's something that I've tested, I would only have been able to theorize about it. The other stuff that we do just worked so well, that we haven't needed to go in and check whether pingbacks still have their place in SEO.
Bradley: Yeah. I think you a long time ago, I'm sure there was some SEO benefit to it but I haven't used them since God I want to say probably 2010 or 12 or probably 2012 somewhere around there is when I just always started disabled and all that stuff so and I have never looked back. I don't think they're helpful at all Keith but you know, maybe somebody someway has found a way to manipulate them. There's such an old kind of feature with WordPress that you know, I'm sure if there was some sort of super cool hack it would have been exploited to the point where it was terminated anyway, you know, so
Hernan: Yeah, it's been there forever. Like since the beginning of WordPress, I would say. Mostly because if you would leave a comment or if you would, leave a link on that will ping back the post if it was for press and whatnot. So and then you will have a lot of pingback spam as well. I remember like going through and deleting a bunch of them. So yeah, I haven't used them,
Bradley: which is part of the reason I eliminated them entirely was because of that I got tired after to go in and clean out pingbacks and trackbacks spam, you know, and that kind of stuff. So
How Do You Display 5-Star Reviews In Google Search Engine Results Page?
wraps up, he says, Hey, gang, how do you get the five stars that show up in some Google searches? That seems to be random. I've never been able to accomplish this. It's with structured data that would be what they call review, review schema. And so you can do that by marking up like product reviews, it could be customer reviews, you know, so basically, like user reviews, that kind of stuff. But that's all accomplished through structured data that has to be added to the web page correctly and invalidated before Google and it does. There's no guarantee that Google will pick it up and display them. But it's that's how you put it your site in a position to have the reviews stars show Marco. Are there any secret tips for that?
Marco: I really don't have anything. It's in the schema. Right? And sometimes they appear, sometimes they don't. Google came out not too long ago, advising against because they see this as just being self-promotional. And that's not the intent, not to say that it does or doesn't work and sometimes, what Google says not to do works really well so you keep on doing it. So this is just totally the structured data on the website. There's a way for you to get the stars in there. It's not something that I bother with.
Bradley: Yeah, agreed. I mean, I bother with structured data. Don't get me wrong, but I don't you know, there are some plugins and things like that some third-party services that you can use that will import like, for example, I can't remember the name of the plugin suite now but they have a Yelp plugin, a Google My Business plugin and a Facebook plugin. So it's essentially a plugin for WordPress sites that will import it connects via API to Google Maps, Facebook and Yelp. And so what happens is, it will pull in for that particular business location, the different reviews that are published on each one of those sites. And so you can buy each plugin individually or buy them all together as a suite. And what happens is that that actually imports the code. It's like an iframe, I guess iframes in the code from those review sites so that it's essentially not you pasting your own structured data into the site, which will show reviews, which is what Marco was talking about because Google thinks, you know, Google knows people can spam that, but it's actually pulling in publicly posted reviews on other reviews sites and that's a good way to do it. And I've actually been able to accomplish that using the Google My Business one for what I've got a roofing client that we weren't able to ever get reviews stars to show for his site, yet, he had hundreds and hundreds of Google reviews. And I mean, across all the different platforms, he had hundreds of reviews on each platform, but we could never get the review stars to show and then I added the plugin, as you know, as a premium plugin, but I added the plugin to put in the Google My Business reviews. And we just put embed the widget in the sidebar of this site so that it was constantly being updated with new reviews. And that actually triggered the review stars to start showing for the site. So there I know there are other ways to do it besides just adding your own structured data. But you know, typically that's how you would do it. It just adds structured data.
What Are The Reasons Why Google Remove Multiple GMB Sites With Legit Home Addresses Of People Working In The Company?
Uh, that's a good question that I mean it's I'm curious Ralph is to we're all six suspended at the exact same time or they suspended at different times there's a ton of questions I have for you regarding that because for example if they were if I'm assuming it's the service area business right because wouldn't you wouldn't have other GMB you know other GMB profiles for storefront businesses, right because that wouldn't make sense then that would be like six separate locations and that's not the way that you know it wouldn't work. So I'm assuming as a service area business and that you hid, or didn't pop chose not to publish the actual physical location of the business because it's a service area business. And if that's the case, then I can't imagine how it would have been suspended unless it was something that you know, you were editing the GMB after it had been verified. I don't know that that's still an issue. But I know, many months ago, there was this kind of a threshold that no one really knows what that threshold was. But, uh, you know, once you cross that threshold with a number of edits of your GMB profile that it could trigger an automatic suspension. I know because I experienced it with one of my clients. It's 100% valid business and has been been a valid location for many years and it got suspended.
And again, it was an automatic suspension just from making a change to the GMB listing and all I did was publish the GMB website, believe it or not, for some reason he had a GMB website. It wasn't published. I click the Publish button and it suspended it. So my point is, there's a number of things that may have triggered that. My question is like I said, we're all six suspended at the exact same time because if so then there had to be some identifiable footprint that connected those sites together other than through the brand, but that also triggered them as being identified as spam. And also, again, I don't know if that was an algorithmic or it was a manual suspension. They don't give you that much information so it's kind of hard to determine. Marco, do you have any comments on that?
Marco: I would just have to guess I had one suspended. And in fact, if it's the land solutions network, companion, GMB really, and nothing Yeah, I mean that you know, the entity was tight. The entity was really good. And we did nothing to it. That is that that's the whole thing we had not gone in there in about a month. And then all of a sudden, while I can't remember how long exactly but all of a sudden it gets hit and gets suspended.
So that's definitely algorithmic, if you're not in the triggering anything, then it was just a random ID or I don't like this for whatever reason in the code, and it got hit. Yeah. I'm curious to know, what was being done to them. In those eight GMBs that they would get off, they would all get hit at the same time or did they not get hit at the same time, but separately, and since this is all in people's homes, what I would suggest is that each one of these people, you get them to call Google and get them to try to get that suspension lifted, go through the process of getting lifted because in a home business is a legitimate way to get a GMB.
Bradley: Yeah, the only thing would be difficult to I mean, unless you know, because sometimes depending on you can contact Google My Business support and try to request reinstatement. It depends on sometimes they're going to require you to jump through a bunch of hoops sometimes. So for example, let me make an example here. The one that I was talking about was for an outdoor Pest Control client of mine.
One main GMB that's been in he's a valid location. He's been in business for many years, never had any issues whatsoever and then it got suspended. And again, all I did was click the Publish button on his GMB website because for whatever reason, it was never published and I don't know why. But anyway, uh, so I submitted as a manager to the GMB right so my account is attached as a manager to the GMB and so I submitted the GMB reinstatement request and it was a two to three-week backlog at the time and it ended up taking like four weeks before I got the rejection email saying that they had rejected it because it didn't meet quality guidelines, which was total bullshit. So and that was it that was the vague rejection response that I got so I emailed to that I mean, you know, replied to that rejection email with like, Can you give me some explanation as to why?
Doesn't mean quality guidelines this has been a valid business has been serving local customers for you know set the past seven years or however long they've been in business or whatever it was that I said. And you know anyways long story short, it just was ignored that went into oblivion somewhere that that request for more information as to why it was suspended or didn't meet quality guidelines. So anyway, I ended up contacting the owner who was listed his primary Gmail account was listed as the owner, the primary owner for the GMB. So I contacted him and told him like I was ready to say Okay, look, we're just going to have to start another GMB from scratch which would have sucked because this was his main location I put a lot of work into over the years. But he said was there anything that I can do and I said, Well if you want to attempt I'll give you a quick tutorial video showing you where to go and how to do it and what to say but if you want to attempt as the primary owner account to request reinstatement do so you know like I'm let's give that a shot before I try starting with a brand new GMB all over again. And he agreed. So within about I think, I think it was less than 10 days. He had the next day he submitted the request based upon my instructions. And I think it was less than 10 days and we got the notification. Well, he forwarded it to me saying that it had been reinstated. So the reason I tell you all of that is because if you have different GMBs, it depends on how you have them all together. Do you have one owner? like, are they all under one GMB account? Are they all under separate GMB accounts? How are they connected? Do you have a common manager through all of them? If they have individual separate primary owners, then the primary owner I guess could go in and potentially try to request a reinstatement.
You know, that would be difficult to do if each location like if it's all part of one brand, you just got to be really careful. There are a couple of things that you could try to try to get reinstated as well. Before starting all over. My point, because if their home addresses as Marco said, you know, you could potentially verify it, even if they required you to do like, you know, take photos of the office space and things like that, because you're allowed to have a home office, right, you're allowed to run a business from home. Even if it's a service area business and you're hiding your physical address, you just have to prove that there's like a business being operated at that location. But again, it would be a lot of the times they want to see like, you know, corporate logos, and they want to see, you know, mail being sent, that I've had to do that in the past with another client, Mario's cab service where we had to have a utility bill that had the company name on it with the new address on it because we were changing locations in order to re-verify a listing. So I mean, there's just a number of things that they could require you to do. I would try to go that route before starting new ones if possible.
But you know, as a last resort, if they were suspended, you could always try it again. PO boxes are a good alternative. If somebody's house is hands down the best way to go first if you have access to somebody that will receive a postcard for you at the residence that is hands down the best way to go in my opinion. But if you can't do that then my opinion the next best is the PO Box method. Remember you do not put PO box in the address field when you're trying to register it will automatically reject it you have to use the street address option which means you go down to the post office you rent the PO box and you tell them you want to use the street address option and they have to fill out a separate form it doesn't cost anything additionally, but then you get to use the street address of the post office itself and then you get a box number so it but if you don't put box you just put the number sign and then whatever the box number is so like 123 Main Street number 212 right.
Any town whatever that would be the address that you use, and that still works. It's not doesn't work 100% of the time but I would say probably you know 80% greater it does. So those are good questions. All right.
Should You Create A New Website For Keywords That Have A Large Potential Audience Or Would You Rather Include To An Existing Brand?
Marco: Yeah, what I'm thinking about is, we clone the money site, right. And so if he's got these different parts of the company sections of the company, however, it is that it's going to be structured, I definitely go with inner pages with companion inner pages on the Gsite and drives tech targeting those keyword sets. So he wants more SERP real estate, right? But I would argue that what you actually want to go further up for your top-level keyword, right, the market level keyword because what we have seen from that approach is that when you start targeting that market-level keyword is it brings everything else up. So you'll be ranking for a whole lot of keywords that you didn't even think about just because you targeted that top-level category. And then when you see that there are keywords that are sticking maybe the second page, maybe towards the bottom 9-10 you can isolate those I mean, we have the webinars at MGYB, that shows how to add power to your drive second, push that power over to the website. So I would say to you focus on that so that your website, your main brand, your entity produces as much power as possible and brings up as many keywords as possible and you add those inner pages.
The only way that I would go to a subdomain or to a separate website is if it were just a completely different part of the business that would break up the semantic relevance if it were included on the money site. Now, if it's if everything is totally related, then you put that on an inner page. And what you do is an individual schema for each one of those inner pages that relate those pages to the main brand. Look at what all of these different companies don't look at what Google does. Google definitely takes advantage of subdomains, right they go the subdomain route.
Another way you know, Apple has it all on the main domain. Amazon has a lot of this stuff on their main domain. What I would say is you get a whole lot more power, and you'll be ranking for a whole lot more keywords a lot quicker. If you add the power to the G site and competitive drive stack and push it over to the money site. Because of then everything benefits, right? Everything that that on that route those all of those inner pages when you pushing all of that power, the entire website is going to benefit, from all of your efforts. That's how I would approach this.
Bradley: Yeah, the only thing and I agree. But like, for example, the glossary site is one of the examples that he's talking about, I think that would be better suited on a subdomain like glossary dot whatever your domain is only because I think that's kind of I mean, again, you could do it on an inner page or even a separate category within the site. I think that's kind of more of a reference type thing could be on a subdomain. But as Marco said, is, if you can, if you can work with it in the existing, like layout, you know, the design that kind of stuff of the existing site, then you can, you can accomplish that with inner page stuff. But the second-best option would be subdomains In my opinion, but not separate websites all together because you want to make sure that you're continuing to tie all of those together. Structured Data could do all of that together.
Well, you have proper structured data across all of them, you're going to be tying entities together or the entity together through all those different assets anyways. So I was a good question. Very long setup,
Should You Link And Embed Links One At A Time Into The Google Site?
Yeah, I'm fits. I don't know why you'd be looking to embed individual links, Gsite. That's what you get the spreadsheet for. And that's exactly what we do we embed the spreadsheet if you need to go to another page with the spreadsheet, then by all means and link below to everything. So that the entire again, yeah, you have to think of this as a whole. You can't break this up into little pieces and think that one is better than the other unless there's a purpose for that individual link embed Unless Unless you're pushing power from an inner page over to a money site, inner page. And that's what you're trying to accomplish with either that iframe or that link. Otherwise, there's no reason to think about it. We, I mean, literally have thousands of links on that spreadsheet, right when when when we turn it into one of our clients. And if we were to embed each one of those links instead of two
Bill taking between six and eight hours, it would take between six and eight days. So that there's no reason for that we get tons of power, the way that we do it. And the only other reason to do one, not all of them, but one will be when you're trying to isolate keyword and I saw the power so that you can push from that drive stack to the G site inner page to the companion money site, inner page.
Bradley: Very cool. Okay, uh, Jim says he missed donating last month, you can donate at any time correct Marco.
Marco: You can donate at any time before after all of the replays will be available. We have a webinar coming up on Monday. So you're still in time to be at the next live webinar. And I might do another one after because it depends on how confused people are. And I see that from the questions and from the comments and everything during the webinar, whether it needs another one, so that might be another one we already this one will be the sixth one, the one that we'll be doing Monday. So there's a lot of information. There are just so many things that we need to go into. Because of the way that we approach it is just as basic principles. But just because it's basic principle doesn't mean that it that it's simple. And it doesn't mean that it's simple to explain. And it doesn't mean that people will grasp all of these concepts during the first go around.
Yeah. That's cool. That's a lot. That's a lot of content for an all it's requested as a donation, no matter the amount, which Yes, people want to see the information like, what's actually being given away. I posted the link in there.
Back to Yeah, you mean for the prize list and that kind of charity information so they can go and take a look? Right there.
Look at it. Look at that. And we keep adding to it.
Wow. Very cool. All right, moving on.
Will A Website's Existing Schema Help Keep Rankings While Changes Are Made To Its Content And Images?
Maybe give or take, you know, plus or minus a couple of positions. But it will likely end up in the same as long as the theme of you know, of the actual page hasn't changed much. But that's hard to tell and who can determine what you know how much how can you determine if it's changed that much, right. So the thing is, if you made an improvement, it's going to dance but then it should come back to the same location. if not better, like when it finally settles from the dance, it will likely end up settling even better if you've improved the content if whatever you've done is decreased the ranking score, so to speak, which is also possible, then it could end up settling lower than where it had originally been. So it's likely that you're going to see some changes and all that kind of stuff. But I agree that you should, you know, conversion optimization should be a focus, you know, keeping people on the site. But I do have a question before we get some other opinions in here on this. And that is, how do you know that the bounce rate is exactly is truly people landing on the page and bouncing back. And the reason I say that is because I know now it's been a while since I've done I haven't built a new website, except for my own, which is alpha land Realty. I haven't built a new website in quite some time. So I know there used to be a known bug with Google Analytics that you would add just a snippet of code to the analytics, Universal Analytics tracking code that would change what they called, what was the event, event timing or something like that. It was a way to prevent people that landed on the page.
And click the back button within a certain amount of time from being counted as a back or a bounce because they they've stayed on the page for, you know, two seconds or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it was, if I went back into my files, I could find the specific code and the parameters for what, of what it changed. But I know that there were some known bugs in that they'd like that may have very well been fixed because it's been probably a year and a half, two years since I've had to actually install that. But I know that there had been some known issues from that. So, you know, I would just question first of all, are you validated that that is indeed true bounce traffic number one. And number two, if that is the case, then you know, I do agree that you should be working on trying to keep people on the site and there's a lot of little things that you can do to make them dwell on the page or even scroll a bit, you know, those all of those things will actually prevent a bounce from triggering, right dwell time scroll depth, like those, are taking some sort of engagement, like a link click, or something like that. Those all will prevent from registering is about. Marco, do you have any comments for him or anybody else for that matter?
Marco: Yeah, the one thing here also is, is are you in a niche that naturally has a high bounce rate? I mean, your client, in essence, is right, what good is ranking if the people coming are bouncing, but that would be if you have 100% bounce rate the people that he is getting and it depends on what each person what each lead is worth. And what each close client is, is worth to this person. All of that needs to be taken into account before you make changes to a page that ranking number one for keywords. So there has to be a heat map on that website so that you can know what people are doing on your website and why they're exiting. So it before you even think about making changes right for conversion rate optimization. You have to see what people are doing on your website. The only way that you can do that is through a heat map Yeah. Now the Analytics gives you entry and exit pages and you get some superficial information. But the only way is through those heat maps so that you know where it is that you need to place your CTA is maybe your phone number, maybe your form, maybe you need a form on the sidebar, there's a whole bunch of things that are involved here this is this isn't just a simple I'm going to chase it around and see what happens now because then once you do make the changes you could even increase the boss rate if you're not sure what it is that people are doing on your website, so I'd be very careful.
Bradley: I think they would call it event tracking code or something like that I can't remember. Anyways, for Analytics, it was a known bug but
Marco: yes, I still have it but there's also a plugin reduce bounce rate.
Bradley: Well plugin that will do something exactly what automatically injects that code snippet, which supposed to fix that. But yeah, that's right. Reduce the bounce rate is a plugin. They even have a premium version of it, I believe. Let's see what schema see. Yeah, okay. Anyways, I was just trying to see if there's something else.
Can You Use The Same Syndication Network And RYS Stack For A Domain?
john says, Can you use the same syndication network and RYS stack for a subdomain? Sure, you can. I mean, think about if you have a, just assume that you're going to put WordPress on a subdomain, it's going to have its own RSS feed. Right? So you can use that I mean, again, you want to, if it's going to be the same brand and everything, there's no reason to have a separate syndication network, if it's the same brand, you know, what I've talked about in the past is, for example, let's say you've got a multi-location, local business that you're working with. Then what I like to do for multi-location businesses is have the root domain. So the, you know, company name.com, for example, would be the root domain and that's basically like generic info about the company their products and services, you know about them, that kind of stuff. But if they have multiple locations, then each location will get its own subdomain WordPress installation. And then each one of their individual sub domains, you know, or locations, which has its own subdomain site, you know, has its own RSS feed and all that kind of stuff. But we would I like to blog from the root domain or might, you know, have my my team blog from the root domain, and set up what we I always talked about having, you know, we talked about theme marrying, but you mirror the category structure to match the location. So in other words, you would create a category for each location. And then you can actually publish blog posts from the root domain that syndicate out to the syndication network, and you just make sure that they're placed within the proper location based category that makes sense so that you can do all of your link building to your sub domain through the content that's published to your root domain blog. That's one way to do it.
You have all these different locations, but you're feeding content from one source, which would be a root domain. However, you could do it the other way around where you have one syndication, branded syndication network, and you have each individual subdomain publishing content from their specific locations but into the brand, the branded syndication network. The reason why we do that is that there's no reason to have multiple branded syndication networks out there that could actually get you in trouble for being a footprint unless you made them like location-specific, or you know, in this case, could be a topical specific subdomain, syndication networks. But all of that becomes more complicated and it's unnecessary try to get results with the least amount of effort is always what we say. Right? So having one brand new syndication network that you syndicate all the content from that brand to is that is, in my opinion, the best route to go and then you would only add additional syndication networks, if needed. And as long as you know how to structure that properly to where you're not going to cause any problems. So the short answer is yes, you can and you should be using the same if it's for the same brand.
How Is The First Layer Of Breadcrumbs Determined On Google?
Okay. Now, Blake, I think you've asked this question for multiple weeks, and we've never gotten to it just because that always comes in as a late question. So he's asking, how do you how does Google determine the breadcrumbs, the first layer of breadcrumbs? And as far as I know, that should be from the domain. In this case, it looks like I mean, yeah, I'm seeing as on a mobile level, and I'm used to looking at the desktop but I'm pretty sure that the first layer of breadcrumbs is determined by the domain name itself. And the association that the domain has, like in this case, that's just showing what do they call it? The favicon image right? So it's pulling the name brand from the name the entities name of the website, right? So the name, but it's usually coming from the domain anyways, and then also that's pulling in the fabric on but again, I'm not 100% sure that's how I assume that it works market, or anybody. Does anybody have any other data for that? Yeah, I can tell him definitively that it's according to the website heart hierarchy. But you can play a little bit with schema. Now don't let Google catch you fucking with the schema that is outside the parameters allowed for structured data. But there is if you go to schema.org/breadcrumb list one word, then you'll see how you can start or give the bot an indication of what your schema should be. And if you scroll down, you'll have them the markup and microdata RDFa. And JSON LD you said was bread crumbs schema.
Its bread crumb list is there in life. Yeah, forward slash schema.org/breadcrumblist one word. Okay. schema.org/breadcrumblist. Why is this not working for me? I have no idea. Let me drop it in the chat in Slack. Oh, it because it's capitalization sensitive capital B and a capital L. okay.
That's like one of those Bitly links. You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay, cool. So there you go. You can read through this and see if there's anything that you can manipulate. I don't, I don't usually do it. But see, look at this right there is JSON-LD for breadcrumb. Yeah. Look at the use of @ type and @ID and that sets up your breadcrumbs you telling the but what your breadcrumb list is, and then what that breadcrumb is referencing, that's the ID page. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of cool. I've never looked at that before.
I've been diving deep into all this shit, man. I've never looked at that before. Something else you could probably do. I don't know if this is what you're going after. But let's see favicon generator this one I believe it is. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. One of these does a really good job. I'm pretty sure it's that one. It's the only purple link here right? I think so. Yeah. So this is the only one I think that I visited just recently. Maybe this.
Anyways, there's one of these will do. It's not this one. I think it's this one anyways, one of these, you know, if you, even if you've already got a favicon on your site, I would take the same file that you use and upload it here. And then what happens is once it generates of avocado, it creates an HTML, a list of HTML commands that you put into the header of your site that will have the fabric on display on different systems like iOS, you know, and the Android or the you know, the Google Play Store, you know, all that different kind of stuff. And so it's just a snippet of code that tells different it created, it takes your image and creates a whole bunch of different from formats or versions of it, you upload that zip file and then extract it into the root folder of your domain. And then there's the HTML directives that will tell the browser which to go to which version of the fabric on image in the root folder of your domain to go to and to display and that might actually you might be able to do something like that to get it to show up in to show something specific if that's what you're trying to do. And I don't know that that is but like these images over here, I don't know if that was what you're asking either, but I know that there's something that you probably do there too.
So, all right, I think that's it, guys. Do we have anything else because I don't see any other questions? Does anybody want to cover anything else? No, just be aware. Go to 2xyouragency.com, sign up there because it's gonna be awesome.
Yeah, I cannot say more coming next week.
Okay, cool. Well, let's wrap it up than guys. Thanks, everybody. Oops. Let's try that again.
Donate to the charity. Get caught up on what's working right now and what will be working for the next three, four or five years. It's what's been working for the last, I don't know, 15 years only. So get caught up.
I do have something we could talk about very briefly. About, I know that there's apparently like another update has occurred. Do you have any insights on that yet, because I hadn't even noticed until, as always, somebody posted in one of the groups? Has anybody noticed any dancing or jumping or bouncing? I have I'm seeing an upward trend. And because we're working it, I'm calling an entity based, worry less SEO.
Because we work on the entity we present it right with them at the unstructured data level. We make sure that the entity is also represented Well, in the unstructured data so that when the bucket and then we just spam the shit out of the bot with all of the information, tracing our entity so that it has no choice but to say, this is the best entity on earth. And then lo and behold, here we go, and it just starts giving you love left and right. So all of these people saying that Yeah, they've had the negative results they did it trapped in the tank thing, whatever. Come on over to the dark side. Come on over and take some of this medicine, because we got the cure for its ailing you. I'm telling you.
I'm looking at all of our stuff and all of our stuff that has an entity, a well, well-defined entity, an ambiguous entity, it's just moving up, I mean that the traffic that it gets us is just crazy and the way that it's reacting. It's crazy what but it may be a little bit too early to tell you right? It might settle because Google, do a hard push. This is supposed to be a big update. And then just when they start affecting some of the big sites, they start rolling it back, right. And they collect all of the data from all over the web to see what happened with it with the update. That's usually with every Google update, but ever since we came out with RYS Academy syndication Academy, we package it all up. And you know, I call it the SEO shield. Of course, we have the SEO shield packages at MGYB to ever since we started doing that, dude, I don't worry, like, all of these people are in there, they're freaking out and they're losing traffic and, and they're losing their lives. And it's like, oh, my God, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.
I'm not seeing it. I'm sorry. Now, if I were to go and test and see Yep, I could probably put something out that would get penalized. But why do that? If I don't have to if I can just shield myself from everything that's happening. And you know, my clients and whatever it is that we're working on, keep getting low. That's how I see it.
Cool. All right. Thanks, everybody, for being here. We will see you guys next week. Thanks, guys.
In the 262nd episode of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one participant asked how to add schema markup to a local business press release.
The exact question was:
hi guys, how do you add schema markup to press releases for a local business? press advantage sent an email with a link to Google's Structured Data Markup Helper tool to create the code. But on that page its asking to select a data type, then paste the URL of the page you wish to mark up. what URL do we enter here? the Press Release is not yet published so it has no url to target for markup. And the data type to tick is “local businesses”? Thanks!
In episode 258 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked about the best techniques to let Google recognize entities.
The exact question was:
Hi SM Team, What are the best techniques for getting Google to recognize Entities? For those doing GMBs Google readily creates Knowledge Panels/MREIDs, but what about those working with web properties, people, products etc. What can we do beyond schema, @ID pages and a GStack? Getting a Wikipedia entry clearly works, but is very difficult for most. “”Jim's Taxis”” probably wouldn't merit a Wikipedia page but gets an MREID thru GMB, so how do we level up the field for non-GMB entities? Thanks.
Bradley: Hey everybody. This is Bradley Benner. This is Semantic Mastery and Hump Day Hangouts for this episode, what, 202. Wow! This is the 19th of September 2018. We've only got two of my partners on with me today. I've got Chris and Marco. What's up, Chris? How are you?
Chris: Doing good. Glad to be here.
Bradley: Awesome. Anything going on that we should know about or anything special, or exciting, or any of that?
Chris: Well, POFU is coming out soon. Getting over to the states, at least I am soon. Nothing else going on in mind.
Bradley: Very cool. It looks like Adam is driving and hanging out again. Adam, can you hear me?
Adam: Sorry, I'm probably pretty scratchy. I just got on the ground in the nick of time. Just thought I'd pop on and say hi to everybody. I'm late to do the intro, but I wanted to see what you guys are up to today.
Bradley: Pay attention to the road, man.
Adam: Yeah. This is nice. I'm not driving today.
Bradley: All right. Marco, what's up, buddy?
Marco: What's up, man? I'm good, working on MGYB, trying to get everything together in there for all of our members and followers so that they can have their services all in one place and done-for-you. Whatever they need, it will be available, it just takes time. Then, the other thing is, of course, working on the next-gen software, the not-having-anything-to-do-with-Google-ever-again software and still make tons of money. That's what I'm on. So, yeah, I mean, this is like … I don't know, I haven't been this busy and geeked up about something in a very long time. But I think this is really going to be a killer.
Bradley: That's awesome. Well, that's great. Guys, just a couple things before we get started, some housekeeping things. Number one, if you're new to Semantic Mastery, there's a couple things we recommend that you do, first, subscribe to our YouTube channel. The reason why is because we produce a ton of content, video content, a lot of training videos, stuff that comes out of the Hump Day Hangouts. We also chop up individual question and answers and repost those as individual video clips. By subscribing to our channel, you will get notified of update videos. Anything that we post publicly you'll get notified of.
Also, you can check out our channel for any questions that you may have. For example, if you have questions about SEO or local marketing or content syndication or whatever, we have a knowledge base at [email protected]. You could always go check our Frequently Asked Questions over there.
But our YouTube channel is really a wealth of information. We've been at this now for 202 episodes, almost an entire four years. We've got, literally, thousands of videos on our YouTube channel. So if you go to our channel, which is Youtube.com/semanticmastery and then click on the channel search function, you can actually search questions over there. Because we have timestamps in our videos and such, the search function works really well. You'll typically get multiple answers from us around one question and you can just start going through them and listening to the answers because a lot of times we have answered the same question many times anyways. So, I highly recommend that you do that.
Also, we've got the POFU Live event, which is our first live event that we're hosting coming up in October, October, I think 19th and 20th, or 20th and 21st. We would highly recommend that you come to that.
Guys, do any of you have the link that you can drop on the event page for that, or is it just Pofulive.com, I think? Pretty sure it's just Pofulive, P-O-F-U live dot com, if you want to check that out. We have VIP tickets still, a couple of VIP ticket tickets left, guys. The price is gonna be going up. I don't know when exactly. I think Adam told me, but I don't remember. Let me see if I can find it. Does anybody know when Adam said we were supposed to …? Next Wednesday, got it. Okay.
All VIP tickets will be gone next Wednesday. So if you guys were thinking about coming, I would highly recommend, if you're interested in the VIP, which is gonna be an entire extra day with us. Really, essentially, we're gonna have the VIP day before the start of the event and you're gonna have direct access to us. It would be a much smaller group and we're gonna do some fun stuff. We're gonna … I can't reveal what we're doing just yet, but it'll be kind of like a group environment. It's more about just connecting, I mean, we could certainly talk business and methods and strategies and all that, that's what it's for, but it's just to get us all together and to get to know each other and stuff.
So, the VIP is gonna be really good. There's also some additional benefits, some additional time that we're gonna spend with the VIP members. All of us, all my partners and I, to help you with your specific business, any issues or problems that you're facing, hurdles, things like that.
I highly recommend you check it out. All prices are gonna be going up as well as the VIP tickets will be shut down as of Wednesday next week. Okay. Chris-
Chris: Well, I'm not sure what you're going to talk about, but I'm gonna be dropping a couple bombs over there. So everybody who is at the event definitely will see a massive change in the business, obviously, it's for the positive. So, be excited.
Bradley: Yeah. In fact, Marco, do you wanna comment on that for a minute while I put something up?
Marco: Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna be talking about … Yeah. If you don't know what POFU is, if you're not there, then it's kind of nebulous. So, you need kind of like a road map. Yeah.
I don't want to drop an F-bomb this early, but how in the world do I get to POFU? These people that are feeding you a whole bunch of garbage all over the web. It's recycled garbage. It's stuff that they take from somebody else and make it their own. They don't even present the information correctly and it just confuses people. So, what I want to do is I want to get some of that confusion out of the way.
This is what you need to do and this is how you need to do it and that kind of thing. You know that when I get going, I'm very raw and I'm gonna try to offend as many people as possible. I hope you don't have any delicate sensibilities if you're coming. If you do, leave them at the fucking door, man.
Bradley: There you go. All right. I'm gonna add an image to the event page right now. This is what we're calling the POFU ladder. Essentially, guys, this is really the goal that we're … It's gonna be on the event page now, if you guys refresh the page or it should pop up in a second. Essentially, it's a five-step process: find a local niche and crush it, contact leads using our proven system, give them amazing local results fast using our methods that build your team of A players, and outsource, and scale it and take it to the next level.
It's a five step process. That's what we're gonna be teaching. It's all about learning how to turn your business into systems and processes that you can scale, get the hell out of your own way, stop being the bottleneck in your own business, and really start taking your business to the next level. That's really what we're gonna be doing.
Excuse me for a second, I got somebody calling me. Sorry, guys. All right. Okay.
That said, POFU Live, I don't know if somebody dropped a link or not. It looks like you did, Marco, so thank you. The next thing is, guys, we had an amazing webinar on Monday with Press Advantage and Press Advantage 2.0. Jeremy [inaudible 00:08:04], one of the co-founders and owners of Press Advantage came on with me and we spent two and a half hours wrapping about Press Releases and how freaking incredible, which you guys should already be aware of that since we have local PR Pro, which was an entire training developed specifically for how to rank local properties or local assets using Press Releases.
When Jeremy came on with us on Monday and did this webinar, I wasn't even aware of how amazing of an offer, and this is no bullshit, how amazing of an offer he gave us during the webinar. Again, I was completely blindsided by it. I couldn't believe how amazing the offer was, in fact, afterwards I had a follow-up call with him on Tuesday, and I ended up purchasing the upgraded offer plus the OTO for that offer, the one-time offer for that for my own agency. We're also getting one for Semantic Mastery, a separate account for Semantic Mastery.
Guys, I highly recommend that you take some time. Again, it's a two and a half hour webinar. Even if you don't want to purchase what the offer is at the end, which, if you're using Press Releases, you'd be absolutely nuts not to purchase at the end. Regardless, you should at least watch the training because there's a lot of really good training in there.
He's been in the press release business for seven years. I've been using Press Releases for about that long, but not real heavily until about a year and a half ago. Now, Press Releases are my preferred off-page link building method and I use them all the damn time. Again, it was a very exciting webinar. Him and I had a lot to talk about and we bounced a lot of ideas off each other as far as what we've been doing in our businesses with Press Releases for results.
I would highly recommend you check that out. I'm gonna drop the link on the page but that was at semanticmastery.com/press-advantage. I'm gonna drop the link on the page and then we're gonna move on.
Anything else, guys, before we get into questions?
Marco: Nope. I'm good.
Chris: Let's do it.
Bradley: Let me make sure I got the right link before I do that. Stand by. Without our wonderful host Adam here, I've got to do it all. Let me just make sure that's correct.
Bradley: All right. I'm gonna drop this on the page and then I'll grab the screen and we'll get into it Press Advantage. Again, guys, go check it out while it's still open. I think it's gonna be open until Monday night next week, so you should have some time, but definitely go through it. Even if you're not planning on buying, I highly recommend that you go through it, at least the training portion of it. All right?
Okay. I'm gonna grab the screen. We're gonna get into questions.
Chris: Do you get the camera, man?
Bradley: Good. Good point. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. All right. Let's get started.
What's The Difference Between The Rocket Video Ranker And The Video Carpet Bomb?
Well, Rocket Video Ranker is a good tool. It's also a spam tool, in my opinion, which Video Carpet Bomb is a spam method, there's no doubt, I'm not trying to hide that at all. We're using basically the same video file uploaded to multiple channels targeting variations of keywords, or the same keyword with different location modifiers, whatever.
The difference between Video Carpet Bomb, I'm 100% transparent with you guys, as always am, the tool that we use for that method or that process is Video Marketing Blitz suite of tools from Abbas Ravji. The specific tool within that suite is called Video Keyword Prospector. That's what my VA uses. There's a bit of a learning curve for that tool. It's very, very powerful but it is a bit of a learning curve. It's a bitch to set up because you have to generate a bunch of API keys, all this stuff, whatever.
My point is, it takes quite a bit of time to learn how to use it, but it's a very powerful tool. What I like about Video Keyword Prospector and the Video Marketing Blitz tool or our Video Carpet Bomb method is that it uses multiple YouTube channels. It's less likely for any one channel to get terminated because with Rocket Video Ranker, which is Bill Cousins' tool, which also works and it works rather quickly, it takes the same video and uploads it to the same channel 30 times. At least the last time I used it, which has been several months now. That was the recommended maximum number of instances of the same video to the channel, is 30. Okay?
Obviously, guys, think about it, if you have the same video file, now there's things that it does to make the video file unique so that it can be uploaded to the same channel 30 times. But if somebody comes across a channel and all 30 videos are the exact same video, according to us as we see it, the encoding may be different or whatever, YouTube might think they're different, but we can tell that it's all the same damn video, then typically that video or that channel can be reported for spam and it will be terminated.
I've also found that the Rocket Video Ranker channels sometimes, almost like they get sandboxed where they get D indexed or terminated but they don't show up well. You have to search for the actual URL of the video for it to appear in search. If you search for the keywords of the title of the video, it doesn't show up, or at least in the top 10 pages. I found that to happen often with those channels, they last for a short period of time.
They're both churn and burn strategies, guys. Make no mistake about that. These are not long-term strategies. I mentioned on a previous Hump Day Hangout recently that the Video Carpet Bomb method is great as a churn and burn strategy and something that you can sell as a recurring service. In other words, every single month you rerun the campaign or you rerun the campaign with different set of keywords or different set of locations. You would charge on a recurring basis to rerun that campaign every month. Or to purchase it from us every month and just upsell it, or mark it up and sell it to your end-user.
The difference is, with Video Carpet Bomb, we upload a video file to multiple channels. So, any individual channel in our Video Carpet Bomb-, or service, excuse me, is gonna have a whole bunch of different kinds of videos uploaded to it. Because we have, say, 50 YouTube channels connected to that tool at any time, so if we upload a video and we're targeting, let's say, 100 keywords or keyword plus location combinations, we might only have that same video upload two times to any one channel. Does that make sense? Those other channels are also gonna have other videos from other campaigns that we've done. My point is, it's a lot less likely for any one of those channels to get terminated.
With video-, Rocket Video Ranker, excuse me, it's one video 30 times to the same channel. It works well and it works well quickly, but what I found is they typically don't last that long and, when the channel gets ghosted or sandboxed, it affects all of those same videos. All of the videos for that particular campaign. Whereas, with our Video Marketing Blitz, if any one of the channels gets terminated or goes to the sandbox, we still have all the other channels that have the videos up on them, if that makes sense.
Again, it's about diversifying, guys, mitigating risk, limiting your exposure. Personally, I like the Video Carpet Bomb method better. There's nothing wrong with Bill Cousins' tool. We've promoted it, it is a good tool. It absolutely works. Just know that I personally chose to use the Video Keyword Prospector tool of Video Marketing Blitz as part of the Video Carpet Bomb for the tool that we use specifically for that reason that I just mentioned.
It was a good question, though, Douglas. Okay. But you can still accomplish the same thing using that tool. If you have it, use it. Just be aware that, typically, you're gonna have to rerun those campaigns more often, you're gonna have to have more disposable channels available because channels get sandboxed, seem to happen rather often. All right.
Do You Recommend Buying Google Accounts From Bulkvpa.com For GMB Listings?
Okay. I've got no problem doing that. In fact, that's typically how I do stuff. When I'm registering my own GMBs, I will do that. I will use a phone verified, double phone verified accounts that I got from Bulk Pva, which is Metro Biz or whatever. I buy a lot of accounts from him. In fact, we were just talking about a bunch of YouTube accounts for our Video Carpet Bomb, the tool that we use for Video Carpet Bomb. That's where we get all of our YouTube accounts, it's the same provider. All right.
Here's the thing about that, DA or Da. I'm not sure what to call you. What I recommend if you're going to do that, first of all, this is assuming that you are going to be claiming and registering that Google My business verifies underneath these Gmail accounts. That means you're gonna to be doing the actual registration of the GMBs and then verifying them, or you or your team, or whatever.
If you buy Done-For-You Google My Business for GMB verified services, which we now sell inside of MGYB, our store, then you don't need any Gmail accounts because we actually produce that for you. You get that included with the GMB verification; a new Gmail account gets created and all that. I'm just telling you that. I'm assuming you're gonna do it on your own. But I just want everybody to understand you don't need to provide a Gmail account if you're buying the verified GMB profiles from us. Okay?
That said, yes, you can use the Bulk VPA accounts. Here's how you safeguard those accounts from termination. When you get them back from the provider, I highly recommend that you use something like Browseo or Ghost Browser and you add each individual Gmail account to its own profile or instance, its own browser instance. Browseo, you call that a profile, or a project, I think it is.
So now, each individual Gmail account now will have its own browsing history so you want to segregate or separate all of them. So that you're not just, for example, using your Firefox browser, for example, to log into one account, set up a GMB, then log out, clear cache and cookies, and then log in again with another GMB or another Google account and do it all over again. Because that looks very suspicious and because those were purchased Gmail accounts, if you do anything suspicious with them especially initially, then they will get terminated or you'll get locked out of them.
But if you log in for the first time, even from the same IP, you don't even need proxies, guys, you can use the same IP but just have Browseo or Ghost Browser open, log into each Gmail account from a separate browsing instance, and don't clear cache or cookies for that ever. Every time you log back into that account, it should be through the same browser profile in either Browseo or Ghost Browser or a comparable tool, because those browser profiles contain all the browsing history, all the websites that were visited, all that kind of stuff so it starts to build a profile, which is natural, that's normal.
That's what people in the real-world do, right? They don't clear cache and cookies after ever browsing instance. All right. So, that's number one, is make sure that you're doing that so that you're constantly accruing additional history and profile data for that particular account. All right. So, that's number one.
Number two, changed the password. Because, not that Metro biz does this, but I know that when I bought accounts in the past, and maybe it's not intentional, maybe it's on accident, but I know that sometimes the accounts, if you don't change the passwords, they will get resold. I'm not saying he does that. I'm just saying I bought enough accounts over the years that I know that one of the first things you need to do is change the password. Okay?
One other thing you can do is, if you have domain, like web mails accounts for just various domains that you have, is you can set up domain email accounts, web mail accounts through cPanel that you use as the recovery email for your Google Gmail accounts. If you're buying Gmail accounts, you should have you should set up your own recovery email. When you first log in, change the password and change the recovery email. Okay?
That's pretty much it. If you do those three things, then you should be able to use those purchased phone verified accounts absolutely fine for creating and claiming GMB profiles. Okay. Good question, though.
Jordan's up. He says, “When you are all fired up for Hump Day Hangouts this afternoon but realize it's only Tuesday.” Oh, that was yesterday. That's funny. It's funny.
Why Do You Use Google Tag Manager For 301 Redirects In Local GMB Pro?
Well, in Local GMB Pro, if you're in Local GMB Pro, you have that code already. It's just a simple meta refresh code and it's already in the training-, the summary section of that lesson where I teach that, because it should be right in the right-hand sidebar. It's a one-line piece of code, right? The reason why instead of using a straight 301 is because it's a meta refresh. Because a meta refresh the page will load and then the bot will read the directive in the HTML header, and then redirect to the destination page. It's kind of a way, like if you want …
For example, and specifically, and I'm not revealing anything here, Marco, so don't worry. But specifically I talked about, if you're going to be using a self-hosted website and you want to inject local business schema or structured data in the HTML header of the site, which is very powerful, then I want an HTM-, excuse me, a meta refresh as a redirect to the business site, the GMB website instead of just a straight 301. Because it gives the Googlebot the chance to read that json-ld structured data before it redirects to the destination page, which, in this case, was the GMB website.
That's the only reason why. If you do a straight 301, it bypasses the redirect URL altogether and just goes direct to the GMB website. But with the meta refresh, it reads the head section, the HTML head section of the page before it redirects. That way it gives Googlebot the data from the structured data. That's the only reason why I did that. If you're not gonna be using a self-hosted website, you don't even need to worry about it.
By the way, for all the GMB stuff that I've been sniping lately, I'm not even setting up self-hosted websites anymore, guys. I'm just using the GMB website because it's free, it doesn't require hosting, and it doesn't require updating like WordPress does every other day. Okay.
Marco: Yeah. One last thing, you're asking Local GMB Pro questions, if you have the course, then we have a Facebook group for questions like this where we can go more in-depth and just tell you exactly what it is that you need to do. Or just go into the training, if you have the training.
What Are Your Thoughts On The Temporary Benefits Of Press Releases On Site Rankings?
“Is this true? If so, what is the typical time period the Press Release remains alive before it is cleansed for the posted site? Thanks again, Gordon.” Gordon, it's gonna depend. It's gonna vary on each individual publication site. Even the individual publication sites, the time frames will vary from when they purged those from their records. Apparently, they say they don't want to clutter up their databases, which is bullshit because the pages, they're such small files, especially if they're just text files, which they typically are, unless you include an image.
My point is, they do purge them. I'll give you a perfect example. One of the distribution sites for almost all of the distribution networks that I published press releases through, Press Advantage being one of them, is NBC12.com. NBC12.com is the Richmond, Virginia NBC affiliate. Okay. Or affiliate for NBC, right? I obviously do a lot of stuff with businesses in Virginia, so whenever I published a press release about a business in Virginia, typically, the NBC 12 version of it, that page, the press release published on the NBC 12 website ranks very well in Virginia. It makes sense.
Richmond is the capital of Virginia and this is the NBC affiliate station for Richmond. Obviously, from promoting Richmond, Virginia-, or excuse me, a Virginia business, the NBC 12 version or the press release published on NBC 12.com ranks very well. However, they purge. NBC 12 purges. Sometimes it at lasts three or four or five months. Other times it doesn't even last three or four or five weeks. I know that to be 100% true because I was, literally, checking on one of the press releases. I'm doing, recording training videos for a product that we're launching on October 1st. We'll talk more about that next week, guys.
Anyways, I was doing some research on some of the press release stuff that I've been doing on. Literally, one of the press releases for my own agency, I published about my own agency, is less than three weeks old and on the NBC 12 site it's throwing the 404 error now. So it varies. I have other press releases published on NBC 12 site that are now three or four months old and they're still valid, they're still there.
So I don't know what these publication sites do. I don't know what criteria they used for purging. I don't know if it's time. I don't know if it's … Again, if the time varies, what triggers it to vary? What triggers it to be purged to sooner than later, that kind of stuff. I honestly have no idea. There's absolute truth in the statement that you heard there from the expert who said that benefits of press releases don't last very long.
So, what's the solution? Continually publish press releases. This is a simple answer to that, guys. Just make it a regular thing right. Publish press releases regularly and consistently. We talked on the webinar, Jeremy says, “The sweet spot is publishing three press releases per month per business.” That's the real sweet spot where he gets the most results. I threw my Local PR Pro method that I developed and I tested and really just started.
The whole Local PR Pro thing was born out of a test to disprove that press releases worked for local rankings. I set out to disprove that that they worked and I was proven wrong. They do work and they work freaking really well. Anyways, like I said, just continually publish.
With my method, I have found at least a minimum of two press releases. Typically, what I do with press releases is I published one every two weeks. So, two per month per business until I gained traction. Jeremy was talking about how his magic number is three per month per business. So, just play around with it, but the key is to continually publish anything that's newsworthy.
Pretty much anything can be made newsworthy, guys. You got a new blog post? Write a PR about it, publish a PR about it. Got a new review? Publish a PR about it. Got a new special or new coupon, new discount, new product, new service? Publish a PR about it. New employee, a new award recognition, new sponsorship activity for local little league or something? Publish a press release about it.
My point is, there's really no shortage of ways to tie press releases or news releases back to the business, and so the idea is to keep doing it. Okay. Again, those timeframes vary from when they purge. The goal is, and if you've ever been through Local PR Pro, there was specifically some update training about that, because we talked about press release stacking and how to essentially daisy chain our silo press releases together, and the key is to not link to press release sites in the silo or the chain, the stack, you don't want to link to press releases that are going to be purged. If you do, you should set up redirect URLs and all kinds of stuff.
Again, all of that is covered in Local PR Pro. Gordon. if that's a strategy you want to pursue, I highly recommend you check out that course. All right.
How Do You Change The Primary Phone Number In The GMB Listing Without Triggering A Google Re-verification?
Scott's up. He says, “I've been moving a plumbing GMB up in the Maps listing and is now sitting at number four for some serious keywords. This account was set up using MGYB GMB account services. Very nice. Thanks much.” Okay. He's talking about this was a plumbing listing that he set up and used our stores GMB verification services to purchase the GMB profile as opposed to doing it himself. Thank you, Scott. He says, “I now have a prospective client.” See, guys? It works. Scott's doing exactly what we're teaching: go out, secure a GMB profile in an area that you want to work in that you want to generate leads for business, and then target the business owner.
You back the service provider into the asset. You develop the asset first, get it ranked, get it producing leads, and then you back the service provider into it. It's a much better way I found than trying to sell your marketing services to people. All right. Scott's doing it. He's in our Mastermind and he's been getting training on that from inside the Mastermind and he's following. taking action. That's awesome, Scott. I'm definitely gonna plus one that.
In other words, whenever I go to set up a GMB, guys, I go set up the virtual phone number first so that when I order the GMB from our store I have provided the phone number that's going to be attached to that listing going forward. You don't want to put a fake number in there because then, once you get the verified profile, it could possibly trigger reverification when you update that data.
That said, Scott, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I would go ahead and just update it because I have GMB listings that I've gone in and, literally, changed the business name or the business address, not the physical location, but the web address or the phone number and not have it retrigger or trigger reverification. If I've change the physical address, like the street address, if I change the physical location address, that triggers reverification. But I've been able to change the phone. I'm not saying it won't trigger verification, it may; and if it does, you may be shit out of luck, which is why you should just order it with all the data right off the bat so that you don't have to worry about it.
What I'm saying is I have changed business names, also web website URLs, also phone numbers and had all three of those not trigger reverification. It's possible that it might, but it's also possible that it won't. Okay?
Marco, do you want to comment on that at all?
Marco: Yeah. Once again, this belongs in the local … I know that Scott is in the Local GMB Pro Facebook group, so this question belongs there. We could guide him because this is actually really simple and there's no reason for him to even worry about reverification if he does it right.
Marco: Just come asking in the group and we'll get to you, Scott.
Bradley: One other thing I want to mention, guys, is it's a very powerful way to really kind of secure these assets to make them a lot less likely to get terminated. That's to just set up a G suite account for that asset. In other words, tie a Google domain … In that case, you would need a domain, but that's something simple that you could do, guys. You could even use like sub-domains and stuff if needed. My point is, if you set up a G suite account, then now you're paying Google, it's a way to validate that entity even further and it makes it more spam proof, so to speak, more slot proof.
Will IFTTT Triggers A Live Event And Syndicate It To A Network Ring?
Bradley: Yeah. Thanks, Hernan. When did you poke in?
Hernan: Sorry about that. But, yeah, I've been at being here for the last, I don't know, 10 minutes maybe. Anyways, yeah, I think it does, actually. We've done that in conjunction with something like video powerhouse to kind of pre-prime a live event. You could create it, you could get it out there, and then when it comes live it actually holds so much more juice. It used to work really, really well. At some point Google equalized that a little bit, but it still works well at this point.
Bradley: I keep removing my plus one. Do you see that?
Bradley: What the fuck? Frankie, I'm trying to plus one that, but Google won't let me.
Bradley: Anyways, Google doesn't like what I was just talking about. All right. Yeah, that's right. I do remember it absolutely will syndicate scheduled live events as long as they're public, if you set them to public. If you set them to unlisted or private, it won't. But if you set them to public, then, yes, it will syndicate them and then when you stream … and Hernan is right, what he had found, and I haven't tested this now in at least probably two years, but what I had found was we would prime live events, like he said, where we would push them out across great big vast networks.
I had some syndication networks tied like multiple rings where I think we were publishing whenever we would upload a video or schedule a live event, it would literally syndicate out to like 800 and some-odd properties. That was a lot. Then, when we'd go stream the video, which could be a week later or whatever, because all those embed codes were out there, like when we went to stream it, it would just instantly rank on page one when we streamed it. Does that make sense?
Bradley: Scheduled live events would index but they wouldn't necessarily rank well. But the moment that we would kick that, start the broadcast within seconds, boom, it would shoot right up. I think that's because Google knows where all that code is. Embed code is out there and it sees it as all these places that that's published, it must be a popular event that people are anticipating. So, when the event happens we're gonna go ahead and rank it high. It might be a short temporary ranking boost, but it does work well.
Hernan: Yep. I used to do it for longtail keywords for local areas and it worked well. You had that big boost initially and then it would work down a little bit, maybe you would lose a couple spots. They would be rock solid on YouTube, top YouTube and top video, top as well, but yeah, that is something … Still Hump Day Hangouts are still being syndicated. There are tied to syndication networks on the Semantic Mastery channel, there's some subsidiaries channel that we also pushed them. So, yeah, they carry a lot of juice and still maybe it's not as … It wasn't even funny. It's a point where we discovered that it wasn't even funny. You could run anything. But anyways, fun times.
Bradley: Yeah, it wasn't … Marco just pointed this out the other day. Marco, remember that?
Bradley: This guy in Virginia.
Bradley: Harry Jameson, you beat me out on that. Oh, it's only because I'm in Culpeper and it knows my IP that it's doing that. When we were testing the whole live stream stuff, Google Hangout stuff, look at that, December 9th, 2013. It was funny because this guy, Harry Jameson, I know he watches our show and everything, Hump Day Hangouts, and he comments occasionally. Harry, if you're watching this, dude, what's up, buddy?
It was funny because we were testing one of the live event blaster tools or whatever, I don't remember the name of it, it was one of many guys that does this. But yeah, I was just doing a test and I just decided to test this keyword. I saw that there was a guy that had already been targeting the coolest guy in Virginia, it was this dude Harry Jameson. So, I just did a quick test and that's this 50-second video, middle December's cold as balls, I'll never forget. I did it and I said in the video, I was just like, “I'm just testing this SEO method. I guess now I'm the coolest guy in Virginia. Sorry, Harry, you're not the coolest guy anymore,” or whatever, something like that. You can watch the video. But it was funny because it was like … and there, look, via hangouts, it's one of the websites it's syndicated to.
Anyways, it was a matter of hours and I got pinged on YouTube from Harry and he was like, “Dude,” whatever. It was funny, we ended up having a conversation and he's kind of been following us ever since. He comes and participates and asking questions occasionally. So, it's really cool. It was really fun and I thought that was funny. He's a really good sport about it, so anyways.
Marco: By the way, video number four, that's Dr. Gary.
Bradley: That's Gary Kirwan, yeah.
Hernan: There you go.
Marco: Before you go on to the next question, I think Hernan has an announcement, don't you? You were a little bit late and I think you dropped a link.
Hernan: Oh, yeah. I think there are some keyword research that you guys can get. We are making a really, really small release of that. There's only five available, according to Adam. So, the link is there. Sorry about that, you guys are right, I was late. But the link is on the event page. You can get a keyword research run for you because we're testing some stuff and there's only five available. So, all you need to do, once you order that, you need to contact [email protected] with your keyword and the marketplace that you want us researched.
Marco: Yeah. We don't want people to give us the keywords. What we want to know is what niche you're after and we'll give you everything under the sun that you could possibly get under that niche. If you go through this purchase link, before we actually set it live and it's permanent in MGYB, it's actually half price right, now just about. There's only five, get it, and we'll do all the research for you for whatever niche you want to go after.
Bradley: Guys, it's insane. I mean you're talking about hours and hours worth of keyword research that you're gonna get back in one Excel file or Google sheet. It's amazing.
Should You Use An Article Or A Review Schema Markup For The Pages Of A Site That Are Mostly Reviews Of Brands?
That's a question I really don't have an answer for, Greg, because I'm not sure. I would almost wonder couldn't you mark the article up and the review, like both? I don't know if you can do that or not. Maybe Marco has a better answer. What I'm saying is, if the article is about reviewing a company, then couldn't it have both an article markup and a review markup, because if it's doing both of those things, right?
Marco: Yeah. I don't really have an answer on this either. But intuition tells me, I mean, this is from all the that we've done that, you could do both. I think you could do a whole lot of stuff with schema. I'm sorry that Rob isn't here because Rob really gets deep into schema and he's done just multiple things with schema on the same page. I don't see you running into any problems if you add article schema along with your reviews. They're two different things. You could have two different things on the same page. You could have video and so you can mark that up. You can have just other things, offer, for example, you mark that up. For example, question and answer, you can mark that up. So, one doesn't exclude the other, in my opinion.
Bradley: Right. That's the point, I think, Greg, that we've talked about schema spam and you can get structured data spam. I've gotten them before in search console warnings or penalties for structured data spam. It happens if you are, for example, adding review data-, or excuse me, review schema to a page just to get the stars to show up in search results when there's not really any review there. So, that can get you into trouble.
Or if you excessively mark up a page or multiple pages, or whatever, you can get a structured data spam penalty for that too. If you're doing, in my opinion … Again, I don't have the definitive answer for you, Greg. I'm just saying I found that, if it's logical, then it's very unlikely that you're going to get a spam penalty for that. Again, I don't do enough with reviews structured data. I don't do a whole lot of markup other than local business markup, guys. I probably should learn that, but I just don't. I just really stick to just the local business and organization markup.
I'm saying, if you can do article markup and review markup because the article is about a review of a company, then I would do both. That's not spammy, in my opinion, although, again, I'm not a 100% sure. Sorry I didn't have a better answer for you.
Do You Have Recommended Affiliate Networks For Water Damage Market?
Oh, we're almost done. Sweet. We're almost out of time, guys. If you've got any questions post them because otherwise we can wrap up a few minutes early. Coupon Code Promo codes, he says, “I have a lead gen property in the water damage market starting to gain traction in one location, verified GMB was purchased through MGYB. Great work, guys.” See, guys, this shit works. Thanks. I appreciate that.
Okay. I'm gonna tell you that you can use pay-per-call exchange networks, for example, Ring Partner. I know they have water damage, water damage restoration and fire damage, you know water and fire restoration services inside of Ring Partner, Ringpartner.com is one of them. Just go do a search for pay-per-call exchange networks or pay-per-call networks on Google and you can find some of those. If you hate client work, that's one way to do it.
Just know that you're gonna significantly reduce your income from those assets because the conversion rates suck really bad for those pay-per-call networks. I know because I've done a whole lot of work in those area, with those before guys doing like mass page generator sites. I've also done call-only ads from Google Ads to those, and all kinds of stuff. I've always had just really shitty results with monetizing those leads because the threshold is so high for it to be a qualified lead.
My point is, with water damage or fire damage restoration, if you use a pay-per-call exchange network, so in other words, you redirect the phone calls from there to the phone number that they provide you and now that goes to an automated phone tree. So, somebody calls and the phone tree picks up and it puts them through a series of press 1, press 2 type shit. People get irritated with that stuff nowadays, guys, if you hadn't recognized it. I mean, doesn't it irritate you when you call something and you got to push 16 freaking buttons to finally get to talk to somebody? I mean, it irritates the out of me and it does most other people now too. So, a lot of people end up hanging up and calling the next person in Google, to the next company that has a live body answering the phone as opposed to some stupid phone tree. Right?
I'm not saying all the Ring Partner offers are like that, some of them might have live operators. I'm just saying for every 10 calls that I would generate, I'd be lucky to get two conversions and that's actually a really high conversion rate. For every 50 calls I would generate, I'd be lucky to get you know two to five conversions. I'm not kidding. I've tried it multiple times. Maybe I was doing something wrong, but my point is, it's not a very good way to monetize those leads. But if it's something that you're trying to do while you're working on, like to fill in the gap while you're working on a prospecting and sales process, then I would absolutely do that. Okay.
Just go look for pay-per-call exchange networks or pay-per-call networks. Do that right on Google and just start going through them and apply to them. Some of them will show you. As a publisher, that's what you would be a publisher. There's publishers and advertisers. You would be the publisher, advertisers would be the businesses that are buying the leads. Right?
Some of the networks will show you which type of advertisers or advertiser categories they have so that you know what you got to work with. I know Ring Partner absolutely has, or at least they used to, I haven't been inside Ring Partner in at least six months, but they used to have water and fire restoration advertisers in there. Okay.
What's The Maximum Number Of SameAs Listings To A Homepage Organization Markup?
Marco: Yeah. I mean, you could add same as. I haven't run into a limit. I just keep it to, like 15 to 20, that we use, that we know to be the most powerful. Those are the ones that I use. But you can mix them up. You can mix it up. I mean, this is a test in the making where you can just try 10, try 15, try 20 and see which one is going to get you the best results. It could vary by niche. I mean, we don't know because of the nature of Google. But I mean, you could just go ahead and this is something that can be tested. Just like you said, you will try doing both. I mean, that's the best thing to do. I'm pretty sure that it's going to work because one does not conflict with the other.
Bradley: Yeah. Let me just point out, since we got a couple extra minutes here, how to find what I consider to be the best to use for same as stuff. Obviously, guys, your same as properties, you should be listing all of your top-level social media properties, like the big ones, Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, and LinkedIn, if you have it guys. That's a no-brainer. Whatever your top, if it's for a local business, obviously, any top-level citations.
Well, how do you determine what your top-level citations are? The easiest way to do it is to do a Google search for the company name, plus one of the other NAP data points, so name, address, phone number. So if you search for company name plus phone, or company name plus address, or address plus phone, whatever, I typically search company name and phone. Now that's gonna show you all of the, basically, citations where your company name and phone number is listed. So, whatever shows up on page one and two of Google for a company name plus phone number search that's typically what I would collect out. Whatever shows up as far as citations and then any other published properties that have name, address, phone number published on them. I just put those into a spreadsheet or a notepad file and then use those as my same as.
There's a couple other really … I was gonna demonstrate, but I really don't need to because I'm pretty sure you guys are all smart enough to figure that out. Just seriously, just go grab your company name or the company name that you're promoting and then use the phone number, for example, and just do a search for that. Then, just go through the top two pages, collect all the links out of there.
Couple other big ones would be, obviously, if you've got a Google site from a drive stack, you could use that as same as. If you've got add ID pages, I know there's an add ID page section for local schema, but I'd still put that as a separate URL and the same as. Some other ones that would be good would be, if you have a news page or pressroom, something that we talked about on Monday with the Press Advantage webinar. That's one of the key features of Press Advantage that I love, is that they give you like a newsroom page, which is essentially like a blog index page or a press release index page for all the press releases published for that particular organization or company. That's a really, really good one because there's a very powerful citation on that page. Drive stack files, right? Think about that. If it's in your main drive stack folder, you could put that in there.
I mean, there's just a number of things that you could do to put in there, guys. Think about what are the most powerful properties within your most powerful branded properties and you want to put those in there too. Okay.
How Much Do You Charge For Four GMB Posts A Week For A Dentist Or Chiropractor Business?
Paul says … I saw Rob commented. By the way, thanks, Rob. I didn't know you were here or we would have brought you on today. Paul says, “What are you guys charging to post for GMB posts a week for a dentist or chiropractor?” Well, I don't deal with those type of clients. It's gonna very. I can tell you what my standard pricing is, guys. My minimum charge is $300 a month for GMB posting and right now that's roughly 20 posts per month. It varies a little bit, but usually, when I'm pitching that, it's five posts per week times 4 weeks, so it's 20 posts per month for $300. That's what I do.
Again, everybody can charge whatever they're comfortable with, whatever you can get from your type of clients. I'm just telling you my … What I charge is $300. If I'm doing GMB plus citations, I charge $500 a month, and that's for the same 420 post per month but then that's also including citation building. But I do just GMB posts alone for $300 now. If it's a business that wants to be more aggressive I will offer upgraded you know upsell packages where we might do seven posts per week, which would be one every day, or we might do 10 posts per week, which would be two posts per day, five days per week. You know what I mean? It just depends on what the customer wants or what the client wants and how aggressive they want to be.
It also depends on the competition level for that particular business. Obviously, before I promote or pitch a prospect on any of the services, I typically do some sort of audit or analysis of their property. Competition now is to determine what it's gonna take. Obviously, if it's a very competitive area, I'm going to suggest much higher volume of posting. So it might be that we you know three posts per day seven days a week, which would be twenty one post per month-, per week, excuse me, or what 84 posts per month, essentially, and so that would be a much higher price. I would be charging somewhere around you know 600, 700 hours a month for that.
Marco: It also depends on whether your client, which most of them don't, but whether your client provides the images.
Marco: Because if you have to go and grab the images and and do all of the work for the images, man, that's a pain in the ass. So you need to charge extra. If they just refuse to … Even if they agree, make sure it's clear that, “If you do not provide me image, then I'm going to have to charge you for providing the images.
Bradley: Yeah. For $300 a month for the 20 that we do, we actually provide the images. I encourage the business owners, for example, I've got several clients now that we're doing GMB stuff for, and so what I do is I set up a Google photos album, a shared photo album, and then I share it with them and then they can share it with all. For example, you guys know I deal with mainly contractors so a lot of the contracting companies have you know multiple technicians or whatever. Then, they share that Google photos folder with their technicians or whatever, whoever is also going to be contributing photos, and so now we've got one community Google photos album that all the photos go into.
My VA that does all the GMB postings she has access to those folders as well. So each time she goes to schedule posts for the week for that client she just opens the Google photos folder. She just selects images right from there. For the first couple months that I was doing this, I couldn't get any of my clients to provide me photos. But now I've got almost all of them providing me photos. It just took two months of me griping and bitching at them and nagging at them to get them to finally come on board and start providing me photos. But I'd say 80% of them now are actually contributing photos to the Google photos folder often. Okay.
Good questions today, guys. We're gonna wrap it up. Thanks everybody for being here. We've got a Mastermind webinar tomorrow, for those of you that are in the mastermind, we're gonna be talking about the product launch that's coming up on October 1st for local lease pro. That's the name of it. or I'm gonna be talking about the GMB sniping method a little bit more tomorrow. So, you guys can make it be there, otherwise we'll see everybody next week. Thanks for being here. Thanks, guys.
Marco: I have a final question. If you guys are not in the Mastermind yet, why the not?
Hernan: It's actually a good question, Marco.
Bradley: Yeah. That is a good question. We had a support request come in from somebody that I guess joined recently. I'm not gonna call them out by name, if you're watching the webinar now guys, whoever you are, you know who you are. There's nothing you said that was wrong or bad. I'm not calling you out. What I'm saying is it was brought to our attention through support that they had made a comment about being in the Mastermind and then thinking that they were being up sold stuff. Guys, in the Mastermind, we don't try to upsell you anything.
For example, when you're in the Mastermind you get all of our products that weren't co-collaborated on from others outside of Semantic Mastery. So for example local GMB Prom we had co-collaborators. Rob Beale was part of that. He helped us develop that product. So that's not something that you're gonna get for free when you join the Mastermind, because it's a higher price ticket than the 300 dollars and because Rob has to get paid for each sale. He has to get a portion of that. RYS Academy and RYS Academy Reloaded, same thing. But everything else that we have you can get inside of the Mastermind.
For example, if you join the Mastermind today, then this month you're going to get access to the Mastermind and you'll get one of the additional products that we have, and in the next month, you get another product unlocked. For example, we have stuff like outsource kingpin or content kingpin, we have Local Lease Pro, which is coming out October 1st, we've got local PR Pro, which is I think an 800 dollar course or whatever. But you can get that as a Mastermind member for $0 other than your Mastermind membership fee, but you just have to wait. Each month you get a new product unlocked.
So, I think that the support requests that came in he was saying like I feel like I'm being up sold, blah blah blah. No, guys, we rarely do affiliate promotion webinars. We do only when the product is superb, we've vetted it, it's something we use in our own businesses. For example, we did the product promotion with Eric Christopher for the G hypnosis protocol, a couple of weeks ago because it's something that I've been intimately involved with and it's something that I use and it freaking works.
We did the Press Advantage webinar this Monday because it works. I've been using press advantage for four years since they launched. So it's absolutely something we use. So if you're in the Mastermind and you attend any of our promotional webinars, it's only because we have your best interest in heart. Obviously, yes, we're gonna make some money if we promote it, but we don't promote just anything, guys, and you should know that by now right. We only promote stuff that we actually use or that can benefit your business.
Lastly, like I said, as far as our own products, if it's under $300, you get it for free. You don't get it all at once. we have to drip them out or else it's not fair. Right? Somebody comes and joins the Mastermind and they get all the back products all in the first month where other members that have been with us for two years have been paying for two years to get those products. Does that make sense? When you come join us you'll get access to the Mastermind, all the archives, all that stuff, and then you'll get one of the main products, and then each month thereafter, you get another product unlocked.
So, that's how it works. Maybe we haven't been real clear about that for new members and such, but I think we're gonna nail that down a bit in our October corporate meetings so that we can be much more clear about that in the future.
Hernan, do you want to comment on that at all before we wrap it up?
Hernan: You're completely right, Bradley. I mean, we are known for vetting harder than anyone else, the products, and we really have your best interests in mind. I mean, it's up to you if you whether want to invest in your business and or not, but um I would suggest that you join. If you want to see, I would say if you want to see some of the power of the Mastermind in action and live, you should definitely come to POFU Live as well. So yeah.
Bradley: All right, guys. Thanks everybody for being here. We'll see you all either tomorrow or next week. Thanks guys.
Adam: All right. We are live. Welcome everybody, this is Hump Day Hangouts, episode 127. We have got everybody here, so let's do a quick hello. I'm going to start, as I see everybody, and start with you Bradley. How's it going?
Bradley: Good, man. How are you?
Adam: Not bad on this 12th of April, since I forgot to mention the date, it is going quite well.
Bradley: I'm glad to be here. I see we got some decent questions, already. We got just a few announcements, after introductions, ad we'll get right on it.
Adam: Cool. All right. Chris, how's it going, man?
Chris: Doing excellent.
Adam: Good deal. Hernan?
Hernan: Hey, everyone. I'm not feeling that good, but I'm happy to be, so I'm feeling slightly better since I'm on the Hump Day Hangout.
Adam: I feel bad I'm laughing, and I was just, oh, God, I'm on video. Anyway, sorry, Hernan, really. [crosstalk 00:00:51].
Bradley: [inaudible 00:00:53].
Adam: Yeah. Anyways, Marco, how's it going?
Marco: Good, man. We're in the middle of the rainy season in Costa Rica and it hasn't rained in a week.
Adam: Outstanding. We'll get into this with a few announcements, everybody. Then, we'll dive into it. Like, Bradley said, we got a bunch of questions. If you're new to Semantic Mastery, if you're just seeing us, or this is one of your first Hump Day Hangouts, please check out Syndication Academy, I'll pop the link on the page, you'll see it in a minute. Then, also SERP Space, you can create your free account over there for done for you services, so please go check that out after the webinar. Let's see. Real quick, we've got a replay going up, right, Bradley? Did you want to tell everyone about that?
Bradley: Yeah. We did the Rocket Video Ranker webinar with Bill Cousins and [inaudible 00:01:42] just the other day, I guess, it was Monday. This weeks a blur to me. It was a really good webinar. He's got a really awesome app that they created like an instant authority injector, it's like instant channel authority, that's what it's called. It's really cool. I've been playing with it for about a little over a week, now, and I've set up multiple campaigns. I was kind of extending the case studies from the Live Rank Sniper case studies that I did as a bonus for this, as well as I added on some new case studies, as well, because it's working really well.
What's cool about it is you can actually upload a bunch of videos, and then set them to a brand new YouTube channel and without syndication network, or anything else, and then it's just unique on how it activates, or makes all the videos public, and apparently that injects authority into the channel, and it makes the videos rank like crazy. I don't understand how it works, or why, I mean, I understand how it works, but I don't understand why it works so well, but it works really well. I've been using it a lot for the bonus, that webinar replay, we've got a link for that, the bonuses that we've thrown in were the case studies that I did, which are multiple case studies.
That training is being added to the bonus membership site, but all the other unannounced bonuses that are part of that membership site as well. Guys, check it out it was a rather short webinar, like an hour and 15 minutes, or something like that, but just go check it out and see even if you don't end up purchasing the product, the technique is really, really cool and it works really well. It's worth sitting through the webinar just to pick up that, if nothing else. Okay?
Adam: Awesome. Cool. We got that link, I think I just put it on, so go check it out after this, it's really cool. Marco, word on the street is that there might be a webinar, or something with you involved, I'm not sure. What's going on, there?
Marco: Not only, me, but I'm getting, Hernan, has just been volunteered to come on and help me out, because really the last two seem kind of disjointed, I mean, people, I don't know why, but somehow they didn't get the message. Right? Some people said it's fabulous, a lot of people said, yeah, I got it and I went, and I started looking, so they did actually what this is for. It's fr you to think, go research, and then do. Right? It's not for me to do it for you. If you want me to do it for you, you're welcome to pay me my $750.00 an hour for consultation, if not, then you go do it, which is what I've had to do for the last what, 14, 15 years. Right?
Nobody showed me, or told me, or took me under their wing and said this is how you do it, guy. I had to go and read and put it all together. Anyway, the webinar is training, think, apply, make money, lather, rinse, repeat, the Semantic Mastery way. Right? Just a quick going over what we'll be doing? I will be revisiting entity creation, validation, and verification, iframes, java script, training the bot, and JSON-LD, JSON, plus LD, plus content, which is our two pronged approach to how we just slam everything, and then, I will be going over whose way is the best way. It's not what you think.
Bradley: Okay. Far enough. Next.
Marco: Your muted Adam.
Adam: Yeah. I'm doing a horrible job of pressing a button, today. Since, Hernan got voluntold into this, Hernan, I think is going to have something special, too, maybe at that webinar. Right?
Hernan: Yeah. Definitely. We are getting close to launch the Battle Plan and that's part of the Semantic Mastery way, because actually in that Battle Plan it's the step by step on how to pretty much [inaudible 00:05:50] a niche, even if it's for aged sites, for new sites, for local sites, for YouTube videos, we have everything in there, so it was, you know we were having a lot of questions about, I love you guys, and I love your content. You have a shit ton of content, but I need a step by step, blueprint, if you will, so that's exactly why we decided to put together on that Battle Plan, and that's going to be presented alongside Marco's genius rambling on Monday, on the webinar. Yeah.
Adam: Awesome. If you're there you're definitely going to get something special, so I'll just leave it at that, and [crosstalk 00:06:31].
Bradley: It only took us three years to create the Battle Plan. We've been talking about it for three years.
Adam: Now, we got it.
Bradley: [crosstalk 00:06:39]. I'm anxious to have that out, too, because it's just something that we just never did, and we finally actually, Hernan, really put it together, so hats off to you, Hernan. Thanks for doing that.
Adam: Yeah. Definitely. I've got my Nike shoe phones on. Thank you, Wayne. I'm going to real quick drop a link in, I suggest you guys check it out, it's free. First three chapters of a book from the CEO of ClickFunnels, and you can check that out, obviously you got to give me your email, but you can go check that out. It's about building movements, building business, a real business. Things like that. Just check it out, I'm not going to go into details if that sounds interesting to you by all means, go check it out and I believe the full book is either out this week or next week, so do yourself a favor, if you don't like it, you invested an email address, if you do like it, you're going to get some good info out of it.
Bradley: Wayne's still picking on you.
Adam: He is. If I had more time I would turn this into talking about my headphones, but-
Bradley: It's awesome, though.
Adam: Let's get into it.
Bradley: Nobody is safe from the wrath of Wayne. All right. I think I'm going to grab the screen, now, guys. Are we ready?
Bradley: All right. Otherwise, I'm just going to sit here and read the chat box. You guys can hear me?
Adam: Got you.
Marco: There we go.
Bradley: Okay. All right. Cool. By the way, just to comment on Adam's mention of the expert secrets book, yeah, guys, if you're not already familiar with Russell Brunson, and the whole ClickFunnels movement, and everything, you should become familiar, and this is an excellent opportunity to do so, with that book, because it's really been a transformative application that we use for our business, ClickFunnels has been, and it's a great company, they've got a lot of vision, and stuff, and so we fully support them as well, because it's been such a blessing to have in our own business, so it's a good opportunity to check out what they've got going on, and learn some, from a really great marketer of our time. Definitely check it out. All right.
[inaudible 00:08:51] is up,
Should The Blog Post With Embedded Youtube Videos Have Different Content In Order To Not Be A Duplicate?
For example, some of my clients, actually, you know, most of my clients are in the contracting industry, so they do home services, so like HVAC services, and plumbing, and things like that. Some of my clients, not all of them, because some of them just refuse to do it, but some of them have their technicians go, and I trained them to do this, but it's very simple, for example, a plumbing company they send one of their plumbers out to a job, and once they get to the job and they access what it is, or they complete the job, do the repair work, or whatever it is they pull out their cell phone and they record a short video, saying, hey, this is John from Joe's Plumbing, I'm out on location, in Fairfax County, Virginia. I got a call for a leaky facet, this was the problem that I found, this is what I did to fix it, if you have any problems similar to requiring facet repair, call Joe's Plumbing at, and they give the call to action.
They send me those videos, and I upload, optimize them and upload them to YouTube and then create the blog posts out of those with the transcription. Essentially, I just send the link over to a transcription service, have them transcribe the video, which is generally about a minute to a minute and a half long. It costs me like a $1.50 or three bucks to get the thing transcribed, and when I get it back, I add that as the content, or my VA will do it, or one of my VA's will do it, but they'll create a blog post with the video embedded, and then the transcription underneath. That's great, because that works really well. Now, there's really not a way that you can automate that. I automate it through a virtual assistant. That's my way automating it. I don't know a way to do that using IFTTT, so if you want to add the additional content, that's fine, transcription works, great. However, it would be a manual process. Right?
One of the reasons why our YouTube syndication applets, from IFTTT, those auto syndication applets don't include the description, for example of the videos, and why we will always just put this video was, it can also be seen on YouTube here, and you put the YouTube link and maybe the channel link, or a playlist link, but that's it. The reason why is because through the many, many networks that I have had and tested over the years, I was finding that when you import the description, and you can change the applet, by the way. But, we have the applet setup with ingredients that work the best, that produce, that don't cause any problems for your blog sites. What I was having problems with, was at one point in time I had a really large, what I called a video broadcasting network, consider it like a PBN, but it was used specifically for just video syndication sites. Okay?
We would, I would, syndicate, and because the way I would set up those video broadcasting network sites, again, similar to PBN's but they were self hosted WordPress sites on domains that I had picked up, like expired domains and stuff like that, and build out these syndication networks using the self hosting WordPress site as the trigger point. Right? I would have YouTube, actually, every time I would upload a video to a particular channel it would syndicate out automatically to all these WordPress sites. Then, the WordPress site would trigger the IFTTT network around it. Right? They were random, some of the would import video description, some would not. What happened was through one of Google's de-indexing spree's that it goes on from time to time, I got hit, my video broadcasting networks got hit, and all the sites that had been importing the descriptions got the indexed, all of the sites that did not import the descriptions, that only hd a YouTube video, so essentially the embed code, and a link to the video itself, and then a link back to the channel, and/or playlist. All of those survived. It was the same network, which was interesting.
It led me to obviously understand that Google does not like republishing or posting of the video descriptions, and I can understand why, because they can be a bit spammy. Right? We drop links and all kinds of stuff into the description, and so it comes out looking spammy, and so that's why I stopped doing it and why all of the applets that we provide don't pull in the description. The reason why I tell you that is because if you're creating videos on the front end, and let's say that you already have, let's say it's a recorded video, where you've already written a script for example, and now you get the video created or recorded, and then you go to add the video to YouTube, well, you already had the transcription at that point. Right? Or, you can record a video, or have a video produced, and get it transcribed, and when you upload it to YouTube you can add your transcription as the video description.
That's the only way I would know how to automate it, is if you had the transcription before you upload it to YouTube. Does that make sense? Otherwise, if you upload the video first then have it transcribed, well when it uploads it's going to automatically syndicate through your networks, so then you'd have to go in and manual edit your blog post on your money site or whatever. That wouldn't include the transcription across all those other properties, either. Does that make sense? The only way for you to syndicate the video plus the description with a transcription, I should say, is if you were to have that prepared a head of time, before you upload the video, which would trigger the syndication to begin with. Okay? It's fine guys if you want to include that and do that kind of stuff on the front end. I don't recommend syndicating a video with, use the applets the way we have them, I mean, you can test, and you can play around with them, but just know the reason we set those applets up the way we did was there was a reason for it, and the reason that I just gave you. Okay?
As far as this, again, I would recommend that you would either just upload the video using the applets the way that they are, and then go back on the money site blog, and edit the post manually, and it's something a VA could do where they could add the transcription. That way across all the syndication points its just the video embed and the links back. Right? That's it, but then on the blog itself, which is a money site, yeah, that's fine to put the transcription there. That's how I would prefer to do it, as opposed to even transcribing a head of time, before syndicating, because then you end up having that, again, the additional text underneath the video, even though the transcription probably isn't as spammy as a normal YouTube description. I still would, because I know of those types of syndication points getting shut down when the text is imported, as well. I just prefer to avoid that and make sure that it's just the YouTube embed and a link back to the video and/or the playlist and/or channel. Okay? All right. Hopefully, that one was cleared up.
Should You Add 100-200 Properties Linked To Our Youtube Account To Get A Real Boost On Videos Syndicated Through IFTTT?
If I'm going to be real serious about something, and remember guys a full two tier network is anywhere between 80 to 90 properties. Right? Even at 80, at the low end of it, we're looking at 240 properties if you've got three full two tier networks. That is true in that my most powerful networks are generally in that range or so, but I know I have some syndication networks that are just tier one that have been powered up and have had consistent posting over time, and they've just gotten powerful because of that, because they are all themed really well, and they've got history.
It really just depends. I mean, if you're starting off with newer networks that aren't themed or don't have a lot of life and history to them, if that makes sense, then what you want, you can add more networks, which will be more syndication points, or you can power them up with links and other various things that you can do to power up the networks. You can do one, or the other. If you're starting off probably right off the bat you're going to get faster results with more syndication points, but over the long run, it's actually better in my opinion to power up existing networks because that helps the video ranks, whatever results the networks provide by syndicating to them, it helps to keep those results to stick better. Does that make sense? In other words, the more syndication points you add to a network, the faster the results typically are, but if it's new then the results can slip rather quickly, as well. Meaning, you get initial really good results, but then they'll start to drop.
Obviously, it's going to depend on many, many other variables, guys, but I'm saying just on the way that my data has trended it shows that. That's why if you have a powered up network, typically the results that the syndication provides will stick for longer. All right? Way back when we had the first version of Syndication Academy out I mentioned that, because I mentioned that for example you could stack multiple tier one networks, first tier networks to a YouTube channel and you'd get faster ranking results that way than using two tier networks, so what I'm saying is let's say you had 10 single ring tier one networks that you wanted attached to one YouTube channel, right, that would be essentially what 200 properties, roughly 200 properties. That's going to get you really fast results, but a lot of the times those results will start to slip somewhat quickly.
It would be better, instead of having 10 tier one networks, it would be better to say, let's say you had three full two tier networks, which would be 12 networks, but the two tier networks tend to help the video rankings to stick longer. That's been something that I've noticed for years. Again, with my own data if I can theme a network and power it up with links and then continue to publish to that it seems to get a lot stronger whether you have more and more syndication properties or not. At some point it's like a level of diminishing returns. Right? Once you cross that point it's really unnecessary to add additional syndication points. I think it's better to power up what you already have. If that makes sense. Okay? Anyways, you can play around with that. Yeah. Obviously if you're just starting off with new networks, more is better. More points are better. All right.
Same thing with press releases, guys. Most press release companies are going to have a section where you put your contact company details anyways, the NAP details, especially and even more and more PR sites now are actually allowing structured data for that so you can mark that up the NAP details with the local business markup, or it's done on the backend, in other words, there just text fields, you enter in the company data and the PR company adds the structured data for where it's published on their site. Now, the syndication points, the press cables that pick them up, most of those will strip that out, but it doesn't matter you still end up with the NAP details, citation details, it's just an unstructured citation at that point. It's absolutely valuable to do that. Make sure you're using a lot of brand anchors for that, though, you don't want to use keywords and stuff. All right.
Next one. “Is it better to have,” and we're going to skip probably, I don't know, how many questions do we have? Because we got some people that posted a lot of questions in a row, guys, and we cannot do that. We need to split the questions up, so that it's fair for everybody. I'm going to answer this one, if we have time, we'll come back and answer is next one. “Is it better to have more accounts as tier one to the YouTube channel, or have one and a few tier one rings, and then add the bulk?” Yeah. I already answered that one, Alexander. Again, you're going to get faster results with more tier one properties, but your results will stick longer if you use tier two.
I don't go out to tier three, because there's just too many, it's too many steps chained together that if something goes wrong anywhere it breaks down the whole system, so I don't do that. I don't do tier three. I mean, I've done it, but I don't do it, because it's too many moving pieces, in other words. I like to go out to tier two and that's the extent. If I want more and more, I just add more networks, more tier one's and tier two's. I don't bring it out to tier three. I haven't seen any benefit in doing that, and it's just more work and more hassle. Okay. Like I said, if we have time, Alexander, we'll come back.
Do You Focus On The Main City Or Do You Focus The Root Domain On Anything At All (Maybe States)?
If you don't have a corporate headquarters, then you can use, in other words if you've got all of your locations already built out on subdomains then just use the root domain, at least this is the way I do it, I just use the root domain as literally like a brand website, and it's more or less just a billboard, like an online flyer that says this is who we are this is what we do, and the pages on the site are the locations page, the about us page, and the contact us page. That's it. That's all that's necessary. Unless, you're going to be blogging from the root domain to the tier one branded network for all of the subdomain locations in which case you want to have a blog and you want to have categories to match each one of the locations, so that whenever you create a post and if you're blogging from the root domain to do all your link building and content syndication from one website, and from one WordPress site as opposed to multiple subdomains. That's how I do it, for the most part, guys.
We talk about this all the time, but when you have multiple locations, I always try to just build the single tier branded syndication network and then do all of my blogging from the root domain to cover all the subdomain locations, and then after a period of time, and syndicating multiple posts, and checking rankings, and that kind of stuff you'll notice that some of the locations will respond well to that, but then some of the subdomain locations won't, and the ones that need the additional push, you can always go out and create locations specific syndication networks for those subdomains that need the extra push, and then blog directly from those subdomains. Remember, try to get the best results with the minimum amount of work. One branded network is all that's needed for multi location, your blog from the root domain, cover all of your subdomains from that same blog just make sure you match categories with locations. If that makes sense.
Marco: If I could just add something, one of the basic principles of our Syndication Academy and RYS Academy is to brand. We create a brand and we associate the brand, the keywords to the band, we don't just chase keywords, we don't just chase location plus keywords we actually teach you, or tell you, build your brand and then-
Marco: Associate the keywords to it, that's why what we do works so well. That's what sets us apart from everybody else, because there's hardly anyone online, right now, teaching you to do it like the big boys do it. Create your brand, associate the keywords to the brand, and then everything else just flows in. Whatever you do, after that, whether you're blogging or doing a podcast, whatever it is that you're doing, in your social media, whatever, it's always pushing the brand and the keywords. The brand and the services. The brand and your product. It's brand, brand, brand, and then the bot, once you hit it over the head enough, it's smart enough, oh, okay, so I need to associate this brand with this set of keywords and that's when the magic starts happening, when the bot, I call it training the bot, but when the bots been trained that way then all sorts of good stuff starts, it just starts to happen.
Bradley: Yeah. Totally agree. That's part of what we talked about with the Crowd Search webinar is that association that is made by the algorithm, I mean RankBrain, guys, it learns. Right? It's machine learning, but it's learning nonetheless. Over time with those associations are made and stored, so it ends up adding weight to the site. How I was introduced into the concept was called site weight. All things being equal if you add two, let's just say plumbing sites that had the same, you know, virtually, or comparably the same SEO and the same off page SEO. I know this is obviously hypothetical, because it's damn near impossible for that to be the case.
If those two were the same, everything else was virtually the same, then the site that had more brand mentions and more navigational searches, which people like searching for the company name, the company name contact information, company name, location, that kind of stuff, that site will out rank the other one, every time, because it's getting more weight by Google, in other words, it's a more authoritative brand. The algorithm determines that through search history and a lot of the other things, the semantic relationships and all that stuff, and that's in part why it works so well, so thank you Marco for bringing that up.
Don, yeah, this last thing is on the main domain, that's what I'm talking about, anything you're talking about smaller city pages that aren't worth an entire subdomain. I get that. That's fine. That's absolutely fine to do that on the root domain. I would just have a locations page that also links out and use the organizational structure data markup. Then, you can, I cannot show you an example, I wish I could, but I do that for some of my sites that have multiple locations. You set a locations page, you mark everything up, you list all of your locations, everything is marked up correctly. It's very, very powerful. Then, like I said, the root domain you just focus on, if you have a physical location for a corporate headquarters, you make the root specifically about that, but you can have all the other locations listed, like I said.
If you have smaller city pages and stuff that aren't worthy of a subdomain, like you mentioned, that's fine. You can put all those on the root domain, as well. What I would recommend with that though, that's why I said, you don't for a lot of times, and I don't want to over complicate this, because I don't know how experienced you are, Don, but a lot of times people will put local business structure data with JSON LD markup in the site header, which is fine, but in a case like this where you are going to have a locations page and potentially smaller city pages hosted on the root domain, you don't want to do that. What you want to do is on the locations page use the structured data markup, and that's fine. Guys, as per Google's best practices when it comes to structured data, they say it doesn't have to be on every page of the site. It only needs to be on a locations, about, or contact page. That's it.
Google will read, as long as you don't have bot blockers on there, Google will read it and will recognize and associate that business with that markup. If that makes sense. For something like that, you don't want to put it in site wide, is what I'm saying. You want to add that code specifically to the locations page and then for each one of your smaller city pages I would inject structured data into each one of those individual pages for that specific location. If you don't have, you say smaller city pages, they might not have physical locations, anyways. If that makes sense. All right.
We could go into a whole, maybe some day we'll do a separate webinar just on structured data stuff, because I know we get questions about that all the time, too.
Do You Add A Link To Your Money Site Using A Keyword From The Text In The Curated Post?
Marco: I would say that you're changing, if you're adding a direct quote right from that website and you change it, then it's no longer.
Bradley: That's right.
Marco: A direct quote. I mean, I know it's not best practices when you're writing something up, so I don't see why you would want to do that anyway. I don't know what it is that he's looking to accomplish by doing that. I'm not sure. You don't need to. You just do the proper citation and you move on. You don't want to-
Marco: Give yourself extra work, because it works perfectly well.
Bradley: James, the only reason why I would see if you were curating content from another source on your own blog, for you to change the text and add a link is just so that you can link back to whatever, and drive visitors through that link to wherever you are trying to send them, or for SEO purposes, but the point is you've got your commentary section, that's the content that you write, or that your team writes, or whatever, your writer, your curator, that's what they write in between curating sections of the post. Right? That's what's called commentary. In those commentary sections you can create links to whatever you want.
You can use the anchor text links, whatever types of links, whatever types of anchor text you can send people wherever you want. I'd recommend not altering the curated content at all. Curate it exactly as it was written, where it was originally published and then cite the source where it was published and then add your link into the commentary section. There's really no reason that I know of without knowing more about your specific situation, James. There's no reason for you to edit the curated content. I recommend that you don't do that, because again, I don't know what the legalities are, but I wouldn't want to alter it in any way. Okay?
Those are all services similar to IFTTT. You might want to check and see if Jimdo connects with any of those. I don't know if it does or not, but if it doesn't then you cannot. I mean, there might be a plugin that will post to Jimdo, as well from a WordPress site, but I don't know that. I don't know of any off the top of my head, but that doesn't matter, I mean, you can still use Jimdo, you just won't be able to use it as part of your syndication network, but you can still use it as a tier one link. It just won't be an automated thing, unless you can find an app that does it. Okay.
Marco: I think there's a plugin that does that. I cannot remember what the name of it is, off the top of my head.
Marco: There's a bunch of them out there. I mean, they've come up with a bunch of others that could possibly do it. There's one called Hyper Social Buffer, I think it is. I'm not sure whether it does it.
Bradley: Yeah. I don't know, which networks this post to, guys, but next scripts, Social Networks Auto-Poster, I know that's one that a lot of people use for stuff. I mean, that's all you got to do, Ivan, is just go digging around see what you can find. There might be a plugin on another app that will do it. If IFTTT doesn't do it, you got to look for another solution. If you cannot find one that will work, then, again, you can still use Jimdo as a tier one property, it just won't be an auto syndication point. Okay.
Do You Have Any Kind Of Index Or Searchable Database Of The Time Stamps With Topic For All Of The Past Hump Day Hangouts?
Adam: We do have them in a playlist, though, so you can at least go into the playlist.
Bradley: Yeah. If you go to view channel, so just go to YouTube.com look for Semantic Mastery, it will come right up, and then right here when you click on the channel you'll see this little spyglass icon, you click on that, it says search channel, and that's where you can type in your query and because we add timestamps the YouTube search function within our channel works fairly well. I know the YouTube search is kind of shitty overall in YouTube for the most part, but it works fairly well on our channel, because we actually add the timestamps to all of our videos. Okay. That's the best thing we-
Marco: I think you can also do a playlist search. If you go to a playlist, to Hump Day Hangout playlists, I think you can search the playlist.
Bradley: It says search channel. I don't know how to search playlists. Yeah. I don't see a specific search for playlists. There might be a function, I just never seen it. Anyways. Yeah. Personally, I would just search the channel, but if there is this playlist search function, then try that, too, I suppose. Okay. All right.
What Is The Maximum Number Of Separate Tags That Are Safe To Use?
Next. “With regard to tag stuffing, how many separate tags would be the maximum? Be safe.” I don't know, Columbia, honestly, I've never stuffed enough tags into a YouTube video. I've just never been real heavy on doing a whole bunch of tags, because I always try to keep my tags very focused around the singular keyword that I'm trying to rank for. Right? I don't know. Does anybody else here know how many tags? Personally, like I said, I usually will keep it to about five to eight tags and they're usually very focused around my primary keyword that I'm trying to rank for. Anybody else got an answer for that?
Adam: I haven't heard of any hard and fast rule. I would probably go by user experience and finding your niche, and keep it pretty simple.
Bradley: Yeah. I mean, all I do Columbia is, well there's a few things that you can do. One is if you use the plugin TubeBuddy, TubeBuddy's a great plugin, which will show you the tags of similar videos, what their tags are and it will show you the popularity of that tag. In other words, how often those tags occur in similar videos, that kind of stuff, so that you can figure out which are the most weighted tags, or the most common tags so that you can match those. TubeBuddy is a great tool for that. It's a Chrome plugin, or it's a YouTube plugin, I guess. Anyways, it's called TubeBuddy, check that out. It's pretty cool. There's some other tools that do similar stuff where they'll like scrap tags.
Lisa Allen has one, it's called, TubeViperX I've seen the icon over here, it's called TubeViperX, so she's got one. There's another one called, Tuberank Jeet, or something like that. I don't know. There's a bunch of tools out there that you can find that are like tag scrappers, and some of the tools will show you the tags in order of priority, and that kind of stuff. You can use stuff like that, but typically, for me, personally whatever my primary keyword is I usually end up adding that tag as well as any local modifiers as individual tags like the city names, and then a couple slight variations of my primary keyword. The most closely related variations, and that's it. My tag list for any given video is usually no more than eight tags. It's anywhere between five to eight tags, tops, and that's because I am always trying to hyper focus around one singular keyword for each video. Okay. That's just the way that I've done it for years.
Marco: I have an idea for Columbia. All of our videos on YouTube, or on the playlist, they're titled Hump Day Hangouts, Hump Day and then Hangouts, one word, [inaudible 00:40:37] and look for the keyword and that'll search the Hump Day videos.
What Is The Effect Of Changing/Approving Tags After A Live Stream Video in YouTube?
Bradley: Cool. Awesome. Thanks. All right. “Is there any problem with changing and approving tags after you've live streamed a video channel?” No, Columbia, not at all. You can go in and edit those at any time. That's not going to hurt anything. I've played around with like if a video doesn't rank, is it ranking as well as I want, you can go in and kind of mess around with the tags a little bit, but give it a few days and see what happens, because a lot of times you won't see changes. I'm not saying changing the tags is going to have any effect on your video, all I know is I've done that, and I've added tags or removed tags, or replaced tags, and I've seen movement. Just to let you know, it's not going to effect anything. I mean, it could affect a video negatively, but you just have to play with it and see. If that was the case, you just switch it back to what it was before. All right. Look at that, that's Napoleon Dynamite's profile [inaudible 00:41:31], that's awesome.
Ranking Using 301 Redirects
Joe T, says, “What's the best way to rank using 301 redirects?” Well, there's so many different answers for that. 301 redirects can be used for a million things. We use them for Switchbox SEO, mainly. Terry Kyle, coined that term, Switchbox SEO, so you can go to Terry Kyle's blog and read about it. We were using 301 redirects anyways, but that kind of really opened up a whole lot of doors for us, as far as, things that we do with 301's. We used to use 301's for a lot of real nasty stuff, we still do, for a lot of real nasty stuff, but not in the same way that we used to. I like to use 301's obviously for cloning the sites and building links to my domain as opposed to my clients domains. That way I keep some level of control, in case they don't need me anymore.
We can use 301 redirects, what's great about 301 redirects is if you do all your link building to a domain that you have full capability of removing redirects or redirecting somewhere else, then that's why it's called Switchbox SEO, because it's like you can turn it on and off at any moment. If you're doing something particularly nasty and it ends up causing some problems, you can just open that redirect. It's just like opening a switch. Right? It cuts that negative link juice off from whatever the destination was, where the redirect was. There's a lot of stuff that you can do with 301 redirects. Again, we could cover that for an hour, and that's a little bit too broad of a question for here. You guys want to comment on that, at all?
Hernan: Yeah. If it's cheap, since we are doing it with X, Y, Z, or dot links, or whatever you want to do, if it's cheap, and if it can protect you, go ahead. Why not? Some people will, I usually like to do it with domains that I can own, and that I can control.
Hernan: That's why I'm saying dot, X, Y, Z dot link, you can do it with URL shorteners, but most of the time you cannot change the destinations and you do not control them. You know?
Hernan: Some people will actually go ahead and make the mistake of doing [inaudible 00:43:51], which we do not recommend, if you're doing nasty stuff, unless you are a part of RYS Academy of course where Marco will teach how to go through that flawlessly, but in any case, I would suggest that you go with X, Y, Z domain, dot link domain, cheap one dollar a year domain that you can reuse, that you can spam, and it doesn't hurt you.
Bradley: Yeah. Okay. “I get emails promoting XRumer backlinks, can you rank today with XRumer links, and if so, how, without getting penalized?” No. I wouldn't do it, Joe. It depends on if you're spamming a web two property, for example, that's one thing. If you're spamming a citation, or a press release, again, that's one thing, but I wouldn't be trying, I would have XRumer backlinks pointed within three tiers of my, within two tiers for sure of my money site. It's just spam. I mean, look, guys, and when I say XRumer links, I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't XRumer links mainly blog comments, and forum profiles, and stuff? Isn't it like real spam stuff? I don't use XRumer, that's why I'm asking.
Marco: I haven't used it in so long, that's how it was. It was mainly comment spam.
Hernan: Yeah. Comment spam. All the way. I mean, they still work, but as far as possible from your money site.
Hernan: You know? We still use Spam Tools, but as far as possible from the money site. More over now that we feel now, Marco came with the news of saying, hey, guys, you know, Google is going two or three tiers deep, so if you can go for tier four, or tier five for XRumer that would be a good idea, actually.
Bradley: Yeah. You can use them for example, like YouTube videos, man, I know I've ranked YouTube videos using nothing but comments, before. It's been a while, I haven't attempted it in quite a some time, but I mean, YouTube videos like press releases, citations, things like that, that can withstand that kind of spam. Yeah. But, remember we always talk about treating your tier one properties as extensions of your brand, so in other words if you want to spam a citation, make sure that it's a no follow link to your money site, for example.
Because you don't want to spam something with a do follow link, a tier one property with a whole bunch of comment spam it can end up hurting your money site, the final destination. You don't want to do that. If you got a press release, or something like that, that you're just wanting to push up and spam it, most of those types of cites will withstand it, that kind of abuse, but again we recommend not spamming your tier one properties, for the most part, because you want to treat those as extensions of your brand. Tier two, fine, if you want to spam your tier two properties, do it.
Marco: If I can clarify. We're not saying that spam doesn't work, because we still use GSA. In fact, we use fiver GSA gigs and the links come back showing adult business, which means porn. Right? [inaudible 00:47:15]. They use porn links to drop our links in, and this still works like gangbusters, it still ranks, but you have to know what you're doing. We throw a double spam filter in, so that the links come through squeaky clean. If you don't know or don't understand what I just said, don't do it, because you'll get in trouble.
Bradley: All right. Toby's up, “Do you use aggregate rating? Have you ever seen the results in Google that have the star ratings on them, like the image below, image of a four out of five star rating on a website. Pretty badass. Right? Did you know that those are actually super easy to get, and Project Supremacy Plugin can do that for you in about 60 seconds.” Okay. I haven't played with Project Supremacy Plugin in quite some time. We have it. I just haven't messed with it. “Yes, the site above got its reviews and star rating generated with the plugin.” Okay. Let's see. “How do you get those star ratings to show up? It's actually through a very specific JSON-LD scheme attack, aggregate rating.” Yeah. That's right. That's been part of that plugin since it was launched. Right?
Yeah. I'm familiar with that. I've got a client site that we tried a million things with that we just cannot get the star ratings to show though, including Project Supremacy plugin, it hasn't worked for that. I've banged my head against the wall for months with that site, and we still cannot get it to work. The particular schema tag is read by your site on Google star rating with amazing ease.” It sure sounds like a pitch, but anyways, I don't see a link, so we're going to move on. It's a decent plugin guys, there's no doubt. This really isn't the place to-
Bradley: Promote the shit out of somebody else's stuff.
Marco: Yeah. This is not the place for that, for somebody else's and not only that since most of the people on Hump Day are beginners. They're going to go and spam away with five star ratings, and get a schema spam penalty for fake five star ratings, fake reviews-
Bradley: Structured data spam.
Marco: Structured data spam.
Marco: Absolutely. It's a great way to get yourself in trouble if you don't know what you're doing.
Bradley: That's right. I know, because I've gotten those manual spam action notifications in search consoles that says, structured data spam. You can get them cleaned up and reversed, but why would you want to raise a red flag? I'm not saying, don't use the stuff guys, just use it correctly. Use it right. For example, I've got a client that has an ungodly amount of real reviews from real customers, and we're having a hard time getting it to show on his site, so that's not structured data spam, but I have gotten that manual spam action through search console before and so have many others.
Marco: Just to finish this up. How many real people give everything five stars? I mean, real people give everything five stars and a review, just these fabulous reviews that just don't look natural. You got to think of it that way, what looks natural?
Bradley: Yeah. We're almost out of time. There's the five minute warning. I'm going to roll through just a couple very quickly. Columbia's got several here, again. Columbia, just for next time, I don't remember seeing your name before, so I'm sure you didn't know. Toby, thank you by the way for mentioning that, just split your questions up, so it allows other people to get their questions in as well. It's only fair. All right?
Can You Have Multiple Verified Websites For Cards And End Screens?
What I recommend, Columbia, is set up a bridge page, which in other words, a page on one of your domains, that you can add as an associated website, and I saw your questions above these, so this will make sense in a minute, but if you add your own domain as an associated website, then you can use the end screens and cards to link directly to any page on that domain. Then, you can have the call to action on that page with the link that clicks over to the Amazon page. Does that make sense? You send people to a page that has maybe some more information about the product, the book, whatever, in your case it sounds like a book, and then from there you have a button or a link that links over to the actual Amazon product page. Does that make sense? It's a two steep, because you cannot link directly to Amazon, because you don't own that domain. Does that make sense? All right.
Next, Columbia says, “Can I have multiple verified websites for cards and end screens?” Yes, Columbia. Inside YouTube, excuse me, let me jump over here, real quick. That's why I want to answer these questions, because I know these are questions that a lot of people ask about. Go to your dashboard, and then go to channel, and you want to go to advanced, and you're going to scroll down, and right here where you see associated website, you add your domain in there and click add, or whatever the button says at that moment.
Then, what you have to do is make sure the domain is connected within the same Google account to Google search console. You have to verify and connect, well, connect and verify your website to Google search console within the same account as your YouTube channel. Okay. I mean, you can do it if you're adding another account as a manager, you can do all that kind of stuff, but just because yours is new, I recommend using the same Google account for the search console verifying your website, there.
Once you verify it, you come back over here and you refresh the page, or it will say, or it will have a verified button, you click verify and it will turn green and say, success. Now, if you want to add another website, you can add as many websites as you want, at least as far as I know, I've never run out of, I've never been told that I cannot add another verified website. You just click remove, and you add the next site again. That does not remove it as an associated website. It's still connected and can still be used, even though you clicked the remove button, it can still be used and now you just add another domain in here and click add and it will say verify, and it will prompt you to add the next domain to the search console. That's it. You can have multiple domains, that are called associated websites. All right? That's perfectly fine to do.
What Is The Difference Between Verified Associated Site And Linking To Sites In The Description?
All right. I'm almost done. I know we've got two minutes. “What is the difference on how it works for verified associated site verses linking in the site, and the description?” Well, because in the description of a YouTube video you can link to any link you want, you don't have to own the website, you don't have to verify, you don't have to do any of that. You can link wherever you want within the description. As an associated website, that gives you the ability to link via end screens, and cards. It used be able to link through external annotations, but they've done away with external annotations. Right? Now, it's end screens and cards. That's how you do it. You link within the video to an associated website, which has to be verified in order to be an associated website. The video description, you can link to whatever you want. All right?
What Are Your 3 Favorite Video Rank Trackers And Why?
If it's your business and you're running it from your home, yeah, absolutely, that's totally legit. Okay? I would not register other people's businesses for lead gen to your home address. I would certainly not do that. I don't know about how it is Denmark, but in the United States I set up virtual mailbox places, and not do that, but for your own business, yeah, use your own home address. It makes no difference. There's no reason you shouldn't. All right, guys. That's it for Hump Day Hangouts. Sorry. Man, we got to most of them. Sorry, guys, just a couple of you didn't get answered. If you want you can post your questions in one of our groups in Google Plus, or Facebook and we'll try to get to them there, otherwise, we can answer them next week.
Adam: Sounds good. Remember if you're new to Semantic Mastery, please check out the syndication Academy, syndication.academy and don't forget to sign up for Marco's webinar, we'll put the links up there, again, so get signed up.
Bradley: Awesome. Yeah. Guys, don't forget to check out that, Lori, says, “I really wish you would do a webby on markup.” We can, Lori, we probably will. I'll talk to Marco about it, and Hernan, and we'll get something scheduled for that. I think we should. All right, guys. Anyways, don't forget to go check out the Rocket Video Ranker Pro webinar, it's a really, really cool application. It works really well. I endorse it, so check it out, and we'll see everybody next week. Thanks, guys.