Adam: All right. We are live. Welcome everybody, this is Hump Day Hangouts, episode 127. We have got everybody here, so let's do a quick hello. I'm going to start, as I see everybody, and start with you Bradley. How's it going?
Bradley: Good, man. How are you?
Adam: Not bad on this 12th of April, since I forgot to mention the date, it is going quite well.
Bradley: I'm glad to be here. I see we got some decent questions, already. We got just a few announcements, after introductions, ad we'll get right on it.
Adam: Cool. All right. Chris, how's it going, man?
Chris: Doing excellent.
Adam: Good deal. Hernan?
Hernan: Hey, everyone. I'm not feeling that good, but I'm happy to be, so I'm feeling slightly better since I'm on the Hump Day Hangout.
Adam: I feel bad I'm laughing, and I was just, oh, God, I'm on video. Anyway, sorry, Hernan, really. [crosstalk 00:00:51].
Bradley: [inaudible 00:00:53].
Adam: Yeah. Anyways, Marco, how's it going?
Marco: Good, man. We're in the middle of the rainy season in Costa Rica and it hasn't rained in a week.
Adam: Outstanding. We'll get into this with a few announcements, everybody. Then, we'll dive into it. Like, Bradley said, we got a bunch of questions. If you're new to Semantic Mastery, if you're just seeing us, or this is one of your first Hump Day Hangouts, please check out Syndication Academy, I'll pop the link on the page, you'll see it in a minute. Then, also SERP Space, you can create your free account over there for done for you services, so please go check that out after the webinar. Let's see. Real quick, we've got a replay going up, right, Bradley? Did you want to tell everyone about that?
Bradley: Yeah. We did the Rocket Video Ranker webinar with Bill Cousins and [inaudible 00:01:42] just the other day, I guess, it was Monday. This weeks a blur to me. It was a really good webinar. He's got a really awesome app that they created like an instant authority injector, it's like instant channel authority, that's what it's called. It's really cool. I've been playing with it for about a little over a week, now, and I've set up multiple campaigns. I was kind of extending the case studies from the Live Rank Sniper case studies that I did as a bonus for this, as well as I added on some new case studies, as well, because it's working really well.
What's cool about it is you can actually upload a bunch of videos, and then set them to a brand new YouTube channel and without syndication network, or anything else, and then it's just unique on how it activates, or makes all the videos public, and apparently that injects authority into the channel, and it makes the videos rank like crazy. I don't understand how it works, or why, I mean, I understand how it works, but I don't understand why it works so well, but it works really well. I've been using it a lot for the bonus, that webinar replay, we've got a link for that, the bonuses that we've thrown in were the case studies that I did, which are multiple case studies.
That training is being added to the bonus membership site, but all the other unannounced bonuses that are part of that membership site as well. Guys, check it out it was a rather short webinar, like an hour and 15 minutes, or something like that, but just go check it out and see even if you don't end up purchasing the product, the technique is really, really cool and it works really well. It's worth sitting through the webinar just to pick up that, if nothing else. Okay?
Adam: Awesome. Cool. We got that link, I think I just put it on, so go check it out after this, it's really cool. Marco, word on the street is that there might be a webinar, or something with you involved, I'm not sure. What's going on, there?
Marco: Not only, me, but I'm getting, Hernan, has just been volunteered to come on and help me out, because really the last two seem kind of disjointed, I mean, people, I don't know why, but somehow they didn't get the message. Right? Some people said it's fabulous, a lot of people said, yeah, I got it and I went, and I started looking, so they did actually what this is for. It's fr you to think, go research, and then do. Right? It's not for me to do it for you. If you want me to do it for you, you're welcome to pay me my $750.00 an hour for consultation, if not, then you go do it, which is what I've had to do for the last what, 14, 15 years. Right?
Nobody showed me, or told me, or took me under their wing and said this is how you do it, guy. I had to go and read and put it all together. Anyway, the webinar is training, think, apply, make money, lather, rinse, repeat, the Semantic Mastery way. Right? Just a quick going over what we'll be doing? I will be revisiting entity creation, validation, and verification, iframes, java script, training the bot, and JSON-LD, JSON, plus LD, plus content, which is our two pronged approach to how we just slam everything, and then, I will be going over whose way is the best way. It's not what you think.
Bradley: Okay. Far enough. Next.
Marco: Your muted Adam.
Adam: Yeah. I'm doing a horrible job of pressing a button, today. Since, Hernan got voluntold into this, Hernan, I think is going to have something special, too, maybe at that webinar. Right?
Hernan: Yeah. Definitely. We are getting close to launch the Battle Plan and that's part of the Semantic Mastery way, because actually in that Battle Plan it's the step by step on how to pretty much [inaudible 00:05:50] a niche, even if it's for aged sites, for new sites, for local sites, for YouTube videos, we have everything in there, so it was, you know we were having a lot of questions about, I love you guys, and I love your content. You have a shit ton of content, but I need a step by step, blueprint, if you will, so that's exactly why we decided to put together on that Battle Plan, and that's going to be presented alongside Marco's genius rambling on Monday, on the webinar. Yeah.
Adam: Awesome. If you're there you're definitely going to get something special, so I'll just leave it at that, and [crosstalk 00:06:31].
Bradley: It only took us three years to create the Battle Plan. We've been talking about it for three years.
Adam: Now, we got it.
Bradley: [crosstalk 00:06:39]. I'm anxious to have that out, too, because it's just something that we just never did, and we finally actually, Hernan, really put it together, so hats off to you, Hernan. Thanks for doing that.
Adam: Yeah. Definitely. I've got my Nike shoe phones on. Thank you, Wayne. I'm going to real quick drop a link in, I suggest you guys check it out, it's free. First three chapters of a book from the CEO of ClickFunnels, and you can check that out, obviously you got to give me your email, but you can go check that out. It's about building movements, building business, a real business. Things like that. Just check it out, I'm not going to go into details if that sounds interesting to you by all means, go check it out and I believe the full book is either out this week or next week, so do yourself a favor, if you don't like it, you invested an email address, if you do like it, you're going to get some good info out of it.
Bradley: Wayne's still picking on you.
Adam: He is. If I had more time I would turn this into talking about my headphones, but-
Bradley: It's awesome, though.
Adam: Let's get into it.
Bradley: Nobody is safe from the wrath of Wayne. All right. I think I'm going to grab the screen, now, guys. Are we ready?
Bradley: All right. Otherwise, I'm just going to sit here and read the chat box. You guys can hear me?
Adam: Got you.
Marco: There we go.
Bradley: Okay. All right. Cool. By the way, just to comment on Adam's mention of the expert secrets book, yeah, guys, if you're not already familiar with Russell Brunson, and the whole ClickFunnels movement, and everything, you should become familiar, and this is an excellent opportunity to do so, with that book, because it's really been a transformative application that we use for our business, ClickFunnels has been, and it's a great company, they've got a lot of vision, and stuff, and so we fully support them as well, because it's been such a blessing to have in our own business, so it's a good opportunity to check out what they've got going on, and learn some, from a really great marketer of our time. Definitely check it out. All right.
[inaudible 00:08:51] is up,
Should The Blog Post With Embedded Youtube Videos Have Different Content In Order To Not Be A Duplicate?
For example, some of my clients, actually, you know, most of my clients are in the contracting industry, so they do home services, so like HVAC services, and plumbing, and things like that. Some of my clients, not all of them, because some of them just refuse to do it, but some of them have their technicians go, and I trained them to do this, but it's very simple, for example, a plumbing company they send one of their plumbers out to a job, and once they get to the job and they access what it is, or they complete the job, do the repair work, or whatever it is they pull out their cell phone and they record a short video, saying, hey, this is John from Joe's Plumbing, I'm out on location, in Fairfax County, Virginia. I got a call for a leaky facet, this was the problem that I found, this is what I did to fix it, if you have any problems similar to requiring facet repair, call Joe's Plumbing at, and they give the call to action.
They send me those videos, and I upload, optimize them and upload them to YouTube and then create the blog posts out of those with the transcription. Essentially, I just send the link over to a transcription service, have them transcribe the video, which is generally about a minute to a minute and a half long. It costs me like a $1.50 or three bucks to get the thing transcribed, and when I get it back, I add that as the content, or my VA will do it, or one of my VA's will do it, but they'll create a blog post with the video embedded, and then the transcription underneath. That's great, because that works really well. Now, there's really not a way that you can automate that. I automate it through a virtual assistant. That's my way automating it. I don't know a way to do that using IFTTT, so if you want to add the additional content, that's fine, transcription works, great. However, it would be a manual process. Right?
One of the reasons why our YouTube syndication applets, from IFTTT, those auto syndication applets don't include the description, for example of the videos, and why we will always just put this video was, it can also be seen on YouTube here, and you put the YouTube link and maybe the channel link, or a playlist link, but that's it. The reason why is because through the many, many networks that I have had and tested over the years, I was finding that when you import the description, and you can change the applet, by the way. But, we have the applet setup with ingredients that work the best, that produce, that don't cause any problems for your blog sites. What I was having problems with, was at one point in time I had a really large, what I called a video broadcasting network, consider it like a PBN, but it was used specifically for just video syndication sites. Okay?
We would, I would, syndicate, and because the way I would set up those video broadcasting network sites, again, similar to PBN's but they were self hosted WordPress sites on domains that I had picked up, like expired domains and stuff like that, and build out these syndication networks using the self hosting WordPress site as the trigger point. Right? I would have YouTube, actually, every time I would upload a video to a particular channel it would syndicate out automatically to all these WordPress sites. Then, the WordPress site would trigger the IFTTT network around it. Right? They were random, some of the would import video description, some would not. What happened was through one of Google's de-indexing spree's that it goes on from time to time, I got hit, my video broadcasting networks got hit, and all the sites that had been importing the descriptions got the indexed, all of the sites that did not import the descriptions, that only hd a YouTube video, so essentially the embed code, and a link to the video itself, and then a link back to the channel, and/or playlist. All of those survived. It was the same network, which was interesting.
It led me to obviously understand that Google does not like republishing or posting of the video descriptions, and I can understand why, because they can be a bit spammy. Right? We drop links and all kinds of stuff into the description, and so it comes out looking spammy, and so that's why I stopped doing it and why all of the applets that we provide don't pull in the description. The reason why I tell you that is because if you're creating videos on the front end, and let's say that you already have, let's say it's a recorded video, where you've already written a script for example, and now you get the video created or recorded, and then you go to add the video to YouTube, well, you already had the transcription at that point. Right? Or, you can record a video, or have a video produced, and get it transcribed, and when you upload it to YouTube you can add your transcription as the video description.
That's the only way I would know how to automate it, is if you had the transcription before you upload it to YouTube. Does that make sense? Otherwise, if you upload the video first then have it transcribed, well when it uploads it's going to automatically syndicate through your networks, so then you'd have to go in and manual edit your blog post on your money site or whatever. That wouldn't include the transcription across all those other properties, either. Does that make sense? The only way for you to syndicate the video plus the description with a transcription, I should say, is if you were to have that prepared a head of time, before you upload the video, which would trigger the syndication to begin with. Okay? It's fine guys if you want to include that and do that kind of stuff on the front end. I don't recommend syndicating a video with, use the applets the way we have them, I mean, you can test, and you can play around with them, but just know the reason we set those applets up the way we did was there was a reason for it, and the reason that I just gave you. Okay?
As far as this, again, I would recommend that you would either just upload the video using the applets the way that they are, and then go back on the money site blog, and edit the post manually, and it's something a VA could do where they could add the transcription. That way across all the syndication points its just the video embed and the links back. Right? That's it, but then on the blog itself, which is a money site, yeah, that's fine to put the transcription there. That's how I would prefer to do it, as opposed to even transcribing a head of time, before syndicating, because then you end up having that, again, the additional text underneath the video, even though the transcription probably isn't as spammy as a normal YouTube description. I still would, because I know of those types of syndication points getting shut down when the text is imported, as well. I just prefer to avoid that and make sure that it's just the YouTube embed and a link back to the video and/or the playlist and/or channel. Okay? All right. Hopefully, that one was cleared up.
Should You Add 100-200 Properties Linked To Our Youtube Account To Get A Real Boost On Videos Syndicated Through IFTTT?
If I'm going to be real serious about something, and remember guys a full two tier network is anywhere between 80 to 90 properties. Right? Even at 80, at the low end of it, we're looking at 240 properties if you've got three full two tier networks. That is true in that my most powerful networks are generally in that range or so, but I know I have some syndication networks that are just tier one that have been powered up and have had consistent posting over time, and they've just gotten powerful because of that, because they are all themed really well, and they've got history.
It really just depends. I mean, if you're starting off with newer networks that aren't themed or don't have a lot of life and history to them, if that makes sense, then what you want, you can add more networks, which will be more syndication points, or you can power them up with links and other various things that you can do to power up the networks. You can do one, or the other. If you're starting off probably right off the bat you're going to get faster results with more syndication points, but over the long run, it's actually better in my opinion to power up existing networks because that helps the video ranks, whatever results the networks provide by syndicating to them, it helps to keep those results to stick better. Does that make sense? In other words, the more syndication points you add to a network, the faster the results typically are, but if it's new then the results can slip rather quickly, as well. Meaning, you get initial really good results, but then they'll start to drop.
Obviously, it's going to depend on many, many other variables, guys, but I'm saying just on the way that my data has trended it shows that. That's why if you have a powered up network, typically the results that the syndication provides will stick for longer. All right? Way back when we had the first version of Syndication Academy out I mentioned that, because I mentioned that for example you could stack multiple tier one networks, first tier networks to a YouTube channel and you'd get faster ranking results that way than using two tier networks, so what I'm saying is let's say you had 10 single ring tier one networks that you wanted attached to one YouTube channel, right, that would be essentially what 200 properties, roughly 200 properties. That's going to get you really fast results, but a lot of the times those results will start to slip somewhat quickly.
It would be better, instead of having 10 tier one networks, it would be better to say, let's say you had three full two tier networks, which would be 12 networks, but the two tier networks tend to help the video rankings to stick longer. That's been something that I've noticed for years. Again, with my own data if I can theme a network and power it up with links and then continue to publish to that it seems to get a lot stronger whether you have more and more syndication properties or not. At some point it's like a level of diminishing returns. Right? Once you cross that point it's really unnecessary to add additional syndication points. I think it's better to power up what you already have. If that makes sense. Okay? Anyways, you can play around with that. Yeah. Obviously if you're just starting off with new networks, more is better. More points are better. All right.
Same thing with press releases, guys. Most press release companies are going to have a section where you put your contact company details anyways, the NAP details, especially and even more and more PR sites now are actually allowing structured data for that so you can mark that up the NAP details with the local business markup, or it's done on the backend, in other words, there just text fields, you enter in the company data and the PR company adds the structured data for where it's published on their site. Now, the syndication points, the press cables that pick them up, most of those will strip that out, but it doesn't matter you still end up with the NAP details, citation details, it's just an unstructured citation at that point. It's absolutely valuable to do that. Make sure you're using a lot of brand anchors for that, though, you don't want to use keywords and stuff. All right.
Next one. “Is it better to have,” and we're going to skip probably, I don't know, how many questions do we have? Because we got some people that posted a lot of questions in a row, guys, and we cannot do that. We need to split the questions up, so that it's fair for everybody. I'm going to answer this one, if we have time, we'll come back and answer is next one. “Is it better to have more accounts as tier one to the YouTube channel, or have one and a few tier one rings, and then add the bulk?” Yeah. I already answered that one, Alexander. Again, you're going to get faster results with more tier one properties, but your results will stick longer if you use tier two.
I don't go out to tier three, because there's just too many, it's too many steps chained together that if something goes wrong anywhere it breaks down the whole system, so I don't do that. I don't do tier three. I mean, I've done it, but I don't do it, because it's too many moving pieces, in other words. I like to go out to tier two and that's the extent. If I want more and more, I just add more networks, more tier one's and tier two's. I don't bring it out to tier three. I haven't seen any benefit in doing that, and it's just more work and more hassle. Okay. Like I said, if we have time, Alexander, we'll come back.
Do You Focus On The Main City Or Do You Focus The Root Domain On Anything At All (Maybe States)?
If you don't have a corporate headquarters, then you can use, in other words if you've got all of your locations already built out on subdomains then just use the root domain, at least this is the way I do it, I just use the root domain as literally like a brand website, and it's more or less just a billboard, like an online flyer that says this is who we are this is what we do, and the pages on the site are the locations page, the about us page, and the contact us page. That's it. That's all that's necessary. Unless, you're going to be blogging from the root domain to the tier one branded network for all of the subdomain locations in which case you want to have a blog and you want to have categories to match each one of the locations, so that whenever you create a post and if you're blogging from the root domain to do all your link building and content syndication from one website, and from one WordPress site as opposed to multiple subdomains. That's how I do it, for the most part, guys.
We talk about this all the time, but when you have multiple locations, I always try to just build the single tier branded syndication network and then do all of my blogging from the root domain to cover all the subdomain locations, and then after a period of time, and syndicating multiple posts, and checking rankings, and that kind of stuff you'll notice that some of the locations will respond well to that, but then some of the subdomain locations won't, and the ones that need the additional push, you can always go out and create locations specific syndication networks for those subdomains that need the extra push, and then blog directly from those subdomains. Remember, try to get the best results with the minimum amount of work. One branded network is all that's needed for multi location, your blog from the root domain, cover all of your subdomains from that same blog just make sure you match categories with locations. If that makes sense.
Marco: If I could just add something, one of the basic principles of our Syndication Academy and RYS Academy is to brand. We create a brand and we associate the brand, the keywords to the band, we don't just chase keywords, we don't just chase location plus keywords we actually teach you, or tell you, build your brand and then-
Marco: Associate the keywords to it, that's why what we do works so well. That's what sets us apart from everybody else, because there's hardly anyone online, right now, teaching you to do it like the big boys do it. Create your brand, associate the keywords to the brand, and then everything else just flows in. Whatever you do, after that, whether you're blogging or doing a podcast, whatever it is that you're doing, in your social media, whatever, it's always pushing the brand and the keywords. The brand and the services. The brand and your product. It's brand, brand, brand, and then the bot, once you hit it over the head enough, it's smart enough, oh, okay, so I need to associate this brand with this set of keywords and that's when the magic starts happening, when the bot, I call it training the bot, but when the bots been trained that way then all sorts of good stuff starts, it just starts to happen.
Bradley: Yeah. Totally agree. That's part of what we talked about with the Crowd Search webinar is that association that is made by the algorithm, I mean RankBrain, guys, it learns. Right? It's machine learning, but it's learning nonetheless. Over time with those associations are made and stored, so it ends up adding weight to the site. How I was introduced into the concept was called site weight. All things being equal if you add two, let's just say plumbing sites that had the same, you know, virtually, or comparably the same SEO and the same off page SEO. I know this is obviously hypothetical, because it's damn near impossible for that to be the case.
If those two were the same, everything else was virtually the same, then the site that had more brand mentions and more navigational searches, which people like searching for the company name, the company name contact information, company name, location, that kind of stuff, that site will out rank the other one, every time, because it's getting more weight by Google, in other words, it's a more authoritative brand. The algorithm determines that through search history and a lot of the other things, the semantic relationships and all that stuff, and that's in part why it works so well, so thank you Marco for bringing that up.
Don, yeah, this last thing is on the main domain, that's what I'm talking about, anything you're talking about smaller city pages that aren't worth an entire subdomain. I get that. That's fine. That's absolutely fine to do that on the root domain. I would just have a locations page that also links out and use the organizational structure data markup. Then, you can, I cannot show you an example, I wish I could, but I do that for some of my sites that have multiple locations. You set a locations page, you mark everything up, you list all of your locations, everything is marked up correctly. It's very, very powerful. Then, like I said, the root domain you just focus on, if you have a physical location for a corporate headquarters, you make the root specifically about that, but you can have all the other locations listed, like I said.
If you have smaller city pages and stuff that aren't worthy of a subdomain, like you mentioned, that's fine. You can put all those on the root domain, as well. What I would recommend with that though, that's why I said, you don't for a lot of times, and I don't want to over complicate this, because I don't know how experienced you are, Don, but a lot of times people will put local business structure data with JSON LD markup in the site header, which is fine, but in a case like this where you are going to have a locations page and potentially smaller city pages hosted on the root domain, you don't want to do that. What you want to do is on the locations page use the structured data markup, and that's fine. Guys, as per Google's best practices when it comes to structured data, they say it doesn't have to be on every page of the site. It only needs to be on a locations, about, or contact page. That's it.
Google will read, as long as you don't have bot blockers on there, Google will read it and will recognize and associate that business with that markup. If that makes sense. For something like that, you don't want to put it in site wide, is what I'm saying. You want to add that code specifically to the locations page and then for each one of your smaller city pages I would inject structured data into each one of those individual pages for that specific location. If you don't have, you say smaller city pages, they might not have physical locations, anyways. If that makes sense. All right.
We could go into a whole, maybe some day we'll do a separate webinar just on structured data stuff, because I know we get questions about that all the time, too.
Do You Add A Link To Your Money Site Using A Keyword From The Text In The Curated Post?
Marco: I would say that you're changing, if you're adding a direct quote right from that website and you change it, then it's no longer.
Bradley: That's right.
Marco: A direct quote. I mean, I know it's not best practices when you're writing something up, so I don't see why you would want to do that anyway. I don't know what it is that he's looking to accomplish by doing that. I'm not sure. You don't need to. You just do the proper citation and you move on. You don't want to-
Marco: Give yourself extra work, because it works perfectly well.
Bradley: James, the only reason why I would see if you were curating content from another source on your own blog, for you to change the text and add a link is just so that you can link back to whatever, and drive visitors through that link to wherever you are trying to send them, or for SEO purposes, but the point is you've got your commentary section, that's the content that you write, or that your team writes, or whatever, your writer, your curator, that's what they write in between curating sections of the post. Right? That's what's called commentary. In those commentary sections you can create links to whatever you want.
You can use the anchor text links, whatever types of links, whatever types of anchor text you can send people wherever you want. I'd recommend not altering the curated content at all. Curate it exactly as it was written, where it was originally published and then cite the source where it was published and then add your link into the commentary section. There's really no reason that I know of without knowing more about your specific situation, James. There's no reason for you to edit the curated content. I recommend that you don't do that, because again, I don't know what the legalities are, but I wouldn't want to alter it in any way. Okay?
Those are all services similar to IFTTT. You might want to check and see if Jimdo connects with any of those. I don't know if it does or not, but if it doesn't then you cannot. I mean, there might be a plugin that will post to Jimdo, as well from a WordPress site, but I don't know that. I don't know of any off the top of my head, but that doesn't matter, I mean, you can still use Jimdo, you just won't be able to use it as part of your syndication network, but you can still use it as a tier one link. It just won't be an automated thing, unless you can find an app that does it. Okay.
Marco: I think there's a plugin that does that. I cannot remember what the name of it is, off the top of my head.
Marco: There's a bunch of them out there. I mean, they've come up with a bunch of others that could possibly do it. There's one called Hyper Social Buffer, I think it is. I'm not sure whether it does it.
Bradley: Yeah. I don't know, which networks this post to, guys, but next scripts, Social Networks Auto-Poster, I know that's one that a lot of people use for stuff. I mean, that's all you got to do, Ivan, is just go digging around see what you can find. There might be a plugin on another app that will do it. If IFTTT doesn't do it, you got to look for another solution. If you cannot find one that will work, then, again, you can still use Jimdo as a tier one property, it just won't be an auto syndication point. Okay.
Do You Have Any Kind Of Index Or Searchable Database Of The Time Stamps With Topic For All Of The Past Hump Day Hangouts?
Adam: We do have them in a playlist, though, so you can at least go into the playlist.
Bradley: Yeah. If you go to view channel, so just go to YouTube.com look for Semantic Mastery, it will come right up, and then right here when you click on the channel you'll see this little spyglass icon, you click on that, it says search channel, and that's where you can type in your query and because we add timestamps the YouTube search function within our channel works fairly well. I know the YouTube search is kind of shitty overall in YouTube for the most part, but it works fairly well on our channel, because we actually add the timestamps to all of our videos. Okay. That's the best thing we-
Marco: I think you can also do a playlist search. If you go to a playlist, to Hump Day Hangout playlists, I think you can search the playlist.
Bradley: It says search channel. I don't know how to search playlists. Yeah. I don't see a specific search for playlists. There might be a function, I just never seen it. Anyways. Yeah. Personally, I would just search the channel, but if there is this playlist search function, then try that, too, I suppose. Okay. All right.
What Is The Maximum Number Of Separate Tags That Are Safe To Use?
Next. “With regard to tag stuffing, how many separate tags would be the maximum? Be safe.” I don't know, Columbia, honestly, I've never stuffed enough tags into a YouTube video. I've just never been real heavy on doing a whole bunch of tags, because I always try to keep my tags very focused around the singular keyword that I'm trying to rank for. Right? I don't know. Does anybody else here know how many tags? Personally, like I said, I usually will keep it to about five to eight tags and they're usually very focused around my primary keyword that I'm trying to rank for. Anybody else got an answer for that?
Adam: I haven't heard of any hard and fast rule. I would probably go by user experience and finding your niche, and keep it pretty simple.
Bradley: Yeah. I mean, all I do Columbia is, well there's a few things that you can do. One is if you use the plugin TubeBuddy, TubeBuddy's a great plugin, which will show you the tags of similar videos, what their tags are and it will show you the popularity of that tag. In other words, how often those tags occur in similar videos, that kind of stuff, so that you can figure out which are the most weighted tags, or the most common tags so that you can match those. TubeBuddy is a great tool for that. It's a Chrome plugin, or it's a YouTube plugin, I guess. Anyways, it's called TubeBuddy, check that out. It's pretty cool. There's some other tools that do similar stuff where they'll like scrap tags.
Lisa Allen has one, it's called, TubeViperX I've seen the icon over here, it's called TubeViperX, so she's got one. There's another one called, Tuberank Jeet, or something like that. I don't know. There's a bunch of tools out there that you can find that are like tag scrappers, and some of the tools will show you the tags in order of priority, and that kind of stuff. You can use stuff like that, but typically, for me, personally whatever my primary keyword is I usually end up adding that tag as well as any local modifiers as individual tags like the city names, and then a couple slight variations of my primary keyword. The most closely related variations, and that's it. My tag list for any given video is usually no more than eight tags. It's anywhere between five to eight tags, tops, and that's because I am always trying to hyper focus around one singular keyword for each video. Okay. That's just the way that I've done it for years.
Marco: I have an idea for Columbia. All of our videos on YouTube, or on the playlist, they're titled Hump Day Hangouts, Hump Day and then Hangouts, one word, [inaudible 00:40:37] and look for the keyword and that'll search the Hump Day videos.
What Is The Effect Of Changing/Approving Tags After A Live Stream Video in YouTube?
Bradley: Cool. Awesome. Thanks. All right. “Is there any problem with changing and approving tags after you've live streamed a video channel?” No, Columbia, not at all. You can go in and edit those at any time. That's not going to hurt anything. I've played around with like if a video doesn't rank, is it ranking as well as I want, you can go in and kind of mess around with the tags a little bit, but give it a few days and see what happens, because a lot of times you won't see changes. I'm not saying changing the tags is going to have any effect on your video, all I know is I've done that, and I've added tags or removed tags, or replaced tags, and I've seen movement. Just to let you know, it's not going to effect anything. I mean, it could affect a video negatively, but you just have to play with it and see. If that was the case, you just switch it back to what it was before. All right. Look at that, that's Napoleon Dynamite's profile [inaudible 00:41:31], that's awesome.
Ranking Using 301 Redirects
Joe T, says, “What's the best way to rank using 301 redirects?” Well, there's so many different answers for that. 301 redirects can be used for a million things. We use them for Switchbox SEO, mainly. Terry Kyle, coined that term, Switchbox SEO, so you can go to Terry Kyle's blog and read about it. We were using 301 redirects anyways, but that kind of really opened up a whole lot of doors for us, as far as, things that we do with 301's. We used to use 301's for a lot of real nasty stuff, we still do, for a lot of real nasty stuff, but not in the same way that we used to. I like to use 301's obviously for cloning the sites and building links to my domain as opposed to my clients domains. That way I keep some level of control, in case they don't need me anymore.
We can use 301 redirects, what's great about 301 redirects is if you do all your link building to a domain that you have full capability of removing redirects or redirecting somewhere else, then that's why it's called Switchbox SEO, because it's like you can turn it on and off at any moment. If you're doing something particularly nasty and it ends up causing some problems, you can just open that redirect. It's just like opening a switch. Right? It cuts that negative link juice off from whatever the destination was, where the redirect was. There's a lot of stuff that you can do with 301 redirects. Again, we could cover that for an hour, and that's a little bit too broad of a question for here. You guys want to comment on that, at all?
Hernan: Yeah. If it's cheap, since we are doing it with X, Y, Z, or dot links, or whatever you want to do, if it's cheap, and if it can protect you, go ahead. Why not? Some people will, I usually like to do it with domains that I can own, and that I can control.
Hernan: That's why I'm saying dot, X, Y, Z dot link, you can do it with URL shorteners, but most of the time you cannot change the destinations and you do not control them. You know?
Hernan: Some people will actually go ahead and make the mistake of doing [inaudible 00:43:51], which we do not recommend, if you're doing nasty stuff, unless you are a part of RYS Academy of course where Marco will teach how to go through that flawlessly, but in any case, I would suggest that you go with X, Y, Z domain, dot link domain, cheap one dollar a year domain that you can reuse, that you can spam, and it doesn't hurt you.
Bradley: Yeah. Okay. “I get emails promoting XRumer backlinks, can you rank today with XRumer links, and if so, how, without getting penalized?” No. I wouldn't do it, Joe. It depends on if you're spamming a web two property, for example, that's one thing. If you're spamming a citation, or a press release, again, that's one thing, but I wouldn't be trying, I would have XRumer backlinks pointed within three tiers of my, within two tiers for sure of my money site. It's just spam. I mean, look, guys, and when I say XRumer links, I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't XRumer links mainly blog comments, and forum profiles, and stuff? Isn't it like real spam stuff? I don't use XRumer, that's why I'm asking.
Marco: I haven't used it in so long, that's how it was. It was mainly comment spam.
Hernan: Yeah. Comment spam. All the way. I mean, they still work, but as far as possible from your money site.
Hernan: You know? We still use Spam Tools, but as far as possible from the money site. More over now that we feel now, Marco came with the news of saying, hey, guys, you know, Google is going two or three tiers deep, so if you can go for tier four, or tier five for XRumer that would be a good idea, actually.
Bradley: Yeah. You can use them for example, like YouTube videos, man, I know I've ranked YouTube videos using nothing but comments, before. It's been a while, I haven't attempted it in quite a some time, but I mean, YouTube videos like press releases, citations, things like that, that can withstand that kind of spam. Yeah. But, remember we always talk about treating your tier one properties as extensions of your brand, so in other words if you want to spam a citation, make sure that it's a no follow link to your money site, for example.
Because you don't want to spam something with a do follow link, a tier one property with a whole bunch of comment spam it can end up hurting your money site, the final destination. You don't want to do that. If you got a press release, or something like that, that you're just wanting to push up and spam it, most of those types of cites will withstand it, that kind of abuse, but again we recommend not spamming your tier one properties, for the most part, because you want to treat those as extensions of your brand. Tier two, fine, if you want to spam your tier two properties, do it.
Marco: If I can clarify. We're not saying that spam doesn't work, because we still use GSA. In fact, we use fiver GSA gigs and the links come back showing adult business, which means porn. Right? [inaudible 00:47:15]. They use porn links to drop our links in, and this still works like gangbusters, it still ranks, but you have to know what you're doing. We throw a double spam filter in, so that the links come through squeaky clean. If you don't know or don't understand what I just said, don't do it, because you'll get in trouble.
Bradley: All right. Toby's up, “Do you use aggregate rating? Have you ever seen the results in Google that have the star ratings on them, like the image below, image of a four out of five star rating on a website. Pretty badass. Right? Did you know that those are actually super easy to get, and Project Supremacy Plugin can do that for you in about 60 seconds.” Okay. I haven't played with Project Supremacy Plugin in quite some time. We have it. I just haven't messed with it. “Yes, the site above got its reviews and star rating generated with the plugin.” Okay. Let's see. “How do you get those star ratings to show up? It's actually through a very specific JSON-LD scheme attack, aggregate rating.” Yeah. That's right. That's been part of that plugin since it was launched. Right?
Yeah. I'm familiar with that. I've got a client site that we tried a million things with that we just cannot get the star ratings to show though, including Project Supremacy plugin, it hasn't worked for that. I've banged my head against the wall for months with that site, and we still cannot get it to work. The particular schema tag is read by your site on Google star rating with amazing ease.” It sure sounds like a pitch, but anyways, I don't see a link, so we're going to move on. It's a decent plugin guys, there's no doubt. This really isn't the place to-
Bradley: Promote the shit out of somebody else's stuff.
Marco: Yeah. This is not the place for that, for somebody else's and not only that since most of the people on Hump Day are beginners. They're going to go and spam away with five star ratings, and get a schema spam penalty for fake five star ratings, fake reviews-
Bradley: Structured data spam.
Marco: Structured data spam.
Marco: Absolutely. It's a great way to get yourself in trouble if you don't know what you're doing.
Bradley: That's right. I know, because I've gotten those manual spam action notifications in search consoles that says, structured data spam. You can get them cleaned up and reversed, but why would you want to raise a red flag? I'm not saying, don't use the stuff guys, just use it correctly. Use it right. For example, I've got a client that has an ungodly amount of real reviews from real customers, and we're having a hard time getting it to show on his site, so that's not structured data spam, but I have gotten that manual spam action through search console before and so have many others.
Marco: Just to finish this up. How many real people give everything five stars? I mean, real people give everything five stars and a review, just these fabulous reviews that just don't look natural. You got to think of it that way, what looks natural?
Bradley: Yeah. We're almost out of time. There's the five minute warning. I'm going to roll through just a couple very quickly. Columbia's got several here, again. Columbia, just for next time, I don't remember seeing your name before, so I'm sure you didn't know. Toby, thank you by the way for mentioning that, just split your questions up, so it allows other people to get their questions in as well. It's only fair. All right?
Can You Have Multiple Verified Websites For Cards And End Screens?
What I recommend, Columbia, is set up a bridge page, which in other words, a page on one of your domains, that you can add as an associated website, and I saw your questions above these, so this will make sense in a minute, but if you add your own domain as an associated website, then you can use the end screens and cards to link directly to any page on that domain. Then, you can have the call to action on that page with the link that clicks over to the Amazon page. Does that make sense? You send people to a page that has maybe some more information about the product, the book, whatever, in your case it sounds like a book, and then from there you have a button or a link that links over to the actual Amazon product page. Does that make sense? It's a two steep, because you cannot link directly to Amazon, because you don't own that domain. Does that make sense? All right.
Next, Columbia says, “Can I have multiple verified websites for cards and end screens?” Yes, Columbia. Inside YouTube, excuse me, let me jump over here, real quick. That's why I want to answer these questions, because I know these are questions that a lot of people ask about. Go to your dashboard, and then go to channel, and you want to go to advanced, and you're going to scroll down, and right here where you see associated website, you add your domain in there and click add, or whatever the button says at that moment.
Then, what you have to do is make sure the domain is connected within the same Google account to Google search console. You have to verify and connect, well, connect and verify your website to Google search console within the same account as your YouTube channel. Okay. I mean, you can do it if you're adding another account as a manager, you can do all that kind of stuff, but just because yours is new, I recommend using the same Google account for the search console verifying your website, there.
Once you verify it, you come back over here and you refresh the page, or it will say, or it will have a verified button, you click verify and it will turn green and say, success. Now, if you want to add another website, you can add as many websites as you want, at least as far as I know, I've never run out of, I've never been told that I cannot add another verified website. You just click remove, and you add the next site again. That does not remove it as an associated website. It's still connected and can still be used, even though you clicked the remove button, it can still be used and now you just add another domain in here and click add and it will say verify, and it will prompt you to add the next domain to the search console. That's it. You can have multiple domains, that are called associated websites. All right? That's perfectly fine to do.
What Is The Difference Between Verified Associated Site And Linking To Sites In The Description?
All right. I'm almost done. I know we've got two minutes. “What is the difference on how it works for verified associated site verses linking in the site, and the description?” Well, because in the description of a YouTube video you can link to any link you want, you don't have to own the website, you don't have to verify, you don't have to do any of that. You can link wherever you want within the description. As an associated website, that gives you the ability to link via end screens, and cards. It used be able to link through external annotations, but they've done away with external annotations. Right? Now, it's end screens and cards. That's how you do it. You link within the video to an associated website, which has to be verified in order to be an associated website. The video description, you can link to whatever you want. All right?
What Are Your 3 Favorite Video Rank Trackers And Why?
If it's your business and you're running it from your home, yeah, absolutely, that's totally legit. Okay? I would not register other people's businesses for lead gen to your home address. I would certainly not do that. I don't know about how it is Denmark, but in the United States I set up virtual mailbox places, and not do that, but for your own business, yeah, use your own home address. It makes no difference. There's no reason you shouldn't. All right, guys. That's it for Hump Day Hangouts. Sorry. Man, we got to most of them. Sorry, guys, just a couple of you didn't get answered. If you want you can post your questions in one of our groups in Google Plus, or Facebook and we'll try to get to them there, otherwise, we can answer them next week.
Adam: Sounds good. Remember if you're new to Semantic Mastery, please check out the syndication Academy, syndication.academy and don't forget to sign up for Marco's webinar, we'll put the links up there, again, so get signed up.
Bradley: Awesome. Yeah. Guys, don't forget to check out that, Lori, says, “I really wish you would do a webby on markup.” We can, Lori, we probably will. I'll talk to Marco about it, and Hernan, and we'll get something scheduled for that. I think we should. All right, guys. Anyways, don't forget to go check out the Rocket Video Ranker Pro webinar, it's a really, really cool application. It works really well. I endorse it, so check it out, and we'll see everybody next week. Thanks, guys.
In episode 124 of Semantic Mastery's weekly Hump Day Hangouts, one viewer asked about how switchbox SEO works, particularly with regard to redirected content.
The exact question was:
I am considering the seo switchbox strategy – not sure how to word this but the question is with the rss syndication strategy how can posts be made on the cloned site if the site redirects to the clients site when visited – also if a post is made, that same post wont be on the clients site it will be on the clone site so is that just left normal ie part of the cloned site and not redirected to the client site? But of course the internal links in it will redirect to the clients site? sorry if that sounds confusing just confused about that aspect and basically want to know if i can built the ring and the rys around the cloned site ultimately keeping all the power with the cloned site should i disconnect the main pages and home page
Adam: Well, we are now. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Hump Day Hangouts. This episode 124, on the 22nd of March 2017. We got almost everybody here, I think Hernan is out doing something amazing or I don't know. Actually, he's just not here. Anyways, let's go around and see what's up with everybody. Sorry about my non video, I know everybody is just looking forward to seeing me, but apparently my bandwidth isn't so great, here, while I'm on the road. Let's see picking the top right.
Bradley: The problem-
Adam: Is it?
Bradley: The problem is, Adam, my beard isn't as majestic as yours.
Adam: I know. I'm getting tied down. Now, that I'm getting it trimmed regularly and I don't look like a hobo, I'm being cut off on the camera. We'll start in the top right, Marco, how's it going, man?
Marco: Hey, what's up man? Doing good. Just lots and lots of spam, I mean testing.
Adam: Good recovery. Chris, what's up, man?
Chris: Doing good. Good to be here on another Hump Day.
Adam: I second that. Bradley, how are you doing, today?
Bradley: Happy to be here. I got lots of questions, already, so I'm ready to go.
Adam: All right. I think, this morning everyone probably heard, I'm going to let Bradley talk about this a little bit, because Bradley is going to be working, or sharing some information about the case study. Actually, I'll just kind of hand it over to you, Bradley, if you want to tell people about the [inaudible 00:01:30] case study stuff.
Bradley: [crosstalk 00:01:32].
Adam: Tell them about that, and we can pop some links in there for people, if they're interested.
Live Rank Sniper Webinar
Bradley: All right. Yeah. Sorry, guys, I'm looking at a text file to grab some links that I can drop on the page. All right. Peter Drew, a great developer, a friend of Semantic Mastery, the link is on the page, now, guys. He launched Live Rank Sniper, it's been in beta for like a year. No shit. I've been part of the beta testing group. I like to jump in on every one of Peter Drew's products, because they're always really good. Anyways, I've been using it on and off again for about a year, but I haven't used it much, but the launch is obviously happening today. I'm sure you guys have gotten a million emails about it, from us as well as many others. It's a great product, and in fact, we're having a webinar, so I dropped the links on the page, guys. By the way, did we check to make sure the page has got the video right? Let me just double check-
Adam: [crosstalk 00:02:27].
Bradley: Sorry guys. Yeah. Okay. It's good.
Adam: We're good.
Bradley: Anyways, I dropped the links on the page, but we're having a webinar with him tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern, I believe. Is that correct? I'm looking at-
Bradley: Yeah. 7:00 p.m.
Adam: Yes. 7:00 p.m.
Bradley: 7:00 p.m. eastern. It's a great product and I was originally going to just do two projects as a case study, as a bonus for anybody that purchases through our link, but knowing two wasn't enough, apparently. I've actually got like four separate, or excuse me, four local case studies and another one, which is a near me case study that I've been working on diligently since Saturday. Literally, I've spent the last four days working on these case studies and I hope to have them 90% complete by the webinar tomorrow. If not, we'll just setup a membership site or something, or whatever that we can add the additional remaining content into. It's working really, really well. I absolutely love it.
It's a really simple software to us, there's a very little learning curve, and it does what it's suppose to do and it does it well. It basically pokes keywords, but what's great about it is it pokes keywords using scheduled live events, which means you don't have to actually stream any videos, so essentially it just creates the live events and then it goes and it ping's them, it gets them indexed. It's a you bot, guys, so the bot just runs in the background and it will go schedule the events, use a spintax, you can add geo coordinates like the location meta tags, that kind of stuff.
Tags, I said, I think I mentioned spintax, already, but you can schedule, you can add unlimited accounts, YouTube accounts to the software, which means you can, I think it does, I think Peter says it does 15 live event's persona, or per account that's added to the software, but I've been testing it heavily over the last few days, and I've seen it go up to as much as 25, so I'm not sure exactly what the number is, but the point is that it goes out and schedules all these events, and then it ping's them, and then [inaudible 00:04:38] anyone that lands on page one or two of the indexed scheduled events then it will put them into a text file.
Then, you can actually use the software to stream a prerecorded video directly to that live event, if you'd like, or you can just delete everything and you know, which keywords are going to rank, because it's just like any other poking software in that respect. I like it, because it doesn't require any video uploads at all, but you can use it for money channels, which is what one of the sites in the case studies that I'm working on, or one of the YouTube channels is an actual money channel. I didn't see any reason, I mean, I've used about 25 different YouTube channels in the last four days, because I've got batches of five.
I've got one group of seven channels, and all the other groups are five channels per campaign, essentially. That allows me to do up to 75 videos in one round. It's really amazing. I really like the software a lot. I've been using it real heavy the last few days and I can see that becoming more and more a part of my normal strategy. Once poking has been done and I've identified keywords, depending on how I set the campaign up originally, I may do that through the money channel, so that I can just stream prerecorded videos, that works great for client channels, guys, because if you've got good videos from clients that can be ranked, using livestreams then that's a great way to do it.
Because remember, you can take the same video and livestream it over and over again and it's going to be unique every time. [inaudible 00:06:10] that way, but if you've got decent quality videos anyways then it wouldn't really be considered spam in my opinion, unless your competitors complain about it. Other than that, if you want to test keywords, it does it very quickly.
You don't have to worry about any videos, and then you can go back through, if you're using like persona channels, for example, you can go back through, delete everything, but you'll have a record of what ranked, and then you can use other software, or other programs, or whatever you want to actually upload or publish the videos for those keywords. It's entirely up to you, but I've been working on it heavily for the last few days. It's called, Live Rank Sniper, Scott, I just saw your question come in, or your comment. Yeah. It's really, really cool, and again, we're going to be on a webinar with Peter, tomorrow night and anybody that purchases through our link is going to get access to the case study details that I'm going to be sharing. Check it out. Okay?
Adam: Yeah. Awesome. By all means go signup for the webinar. Check it out. It's one of those, obviously we don't tell people to buy stuff that they're not going to use, but come check out the webinar, see if it's something you can put in your toolbox.
Marco: I have an announcement, if I may.
Bradley: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Marco: I'm going to be doing another webinar. Another one of those, just super secret spicy hot type shit webinars, where I tend to give the farm away. If people want to learn more about the knowledge graph, knowledge panel, RankBrain, how you can even train the bot to see whatever you want it to see. I talk about that, and ambiguity, and complexity, and get some more of my secrets. It's being setup, we don't have the webinar page ready, yet, as soon as we have it ready we'll mail it out, and I'll also post it in our group, so that it's available to everyone. Now, here's the caveat. Right?
This one is going to be offered live only, barring technical difficulties, once it's done, and I'm sorry for those who cannot attend live, but if you do not attend live it goes on pay per view, no, we're not going to make any exceptions, there won't be any reason, nothing. It's going into the Marco retirement fund, excuse me, it's a pay per view, and that's it. I suggest try to get it live, try to be there, it's going to rock. Again, I'm going to give everything away that I can and I hope to see you all there. April 3rd, tentative. We will be giving more information during the week, as I said in the groups, in email, so just stay tuned.
Bradley: Yeah. Cool. All right.
Adam: One more quick one, real quick. Also, next week we've had a lot of questions about this and with the RYS Stack, stuff that you can now get through Serp Space, and it's something that we offered for a while, we're going to be explaining more about that, how you can apply it, how you can order it, when to order it, things like that. That's going to be next week, so if you're interested in that just keep your eyes open, we'll be holding, it's going to be a short kind of informational webinar about RYS Stacks and how you can do that. That's going to be awesome. That will be late next week.
Bradley: Yeah. That's next Thursday, correct?
Marco: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Adam: Yeah. We'll be sending out some more info, so you can decide if that's something, you know, if you're doing client work, or your own stuff, why you would want to do it, stuff we're going to cover in the webinar.
Bradley: Yeah. Okay. All right. The last thing, I think, well, somebody had a question about Live Rank Sniper, “Will it work for launch stacking?” Yeah. It will probably work really well. I haven't tested it with that, yet. I'm testing it with near me keywords, which are national. It's doing fairly well with that, it's working like crazy for local. For near me keywords it's working okay, but I just started really heavy testing it. The last thing about that is, but for launch stacking stuff, because those keywords are new, they will probably perform will, but you'd have to play with it, I suspect it would perform more, but I don't know. One last thing, guys, we started our livestreams on a daily basis, we're doing, each one of us, Monday is my day. Hernan has Tuesday. I know, I think Chris, do you have Wednesday?
Adam: Chris is being oddly silent.
Bradley: Okay. No, but it's Wednesday. I think, Adam has got Thursday and Marco's got Friday.
Marco: [crosstalk 00:10:36].
Bradley: Okay. We started doing our Facebook livestreams and it's just once, Monday through Friday, each one of us are going to jump on and just do a quick livestream rant about whatever we want to talk about, but I know we talked about this months ago and we never actually got it started, but we started it this week. Monday, was the kickoff of that. So, if you guys have anything that you would like for us to talk about, this is not a Q and A, like a marketing question and answer like a how to, if you have questions about high level stuff, mindset strategy, or anything else, whatsoever outside of technical questions then you can post them at rant.semanticmastery.com, it's a 100% anonymous, so we won't even know who's submitting comments or stuff for us to rant about, but anything that you guys would like for us to talk about outside of technical answers, like how to stuff, just post there. Again, that's rant.semanticmastery.com. It's a Google form, you can submit anonymously and then that will give us stuff that we can pull from for content for our daily livestreams. Okay?
Marco: Okay. Yeah. I just want to add that if you're sensitive and you're offended easily, and you don't want to cry then don't be there on Friday when I'm on.
Bradley: Yeah. Their raw, guys, these aren't going to be polished, at all. The occasional cuss word is going to, in some cases the frequent cuss word is going to slip. It's rant mastery, you know what I mean? If we want to rant about something, we're going to rant. Just know that it's going to be unfiltered, so if you have sensitive, if you're sensitive to that kind of stuff just don't watch. That's all. All right. Okay. Cool. We're going to go ahead and jump into questions guys, unless there's something else.
Adam: Yeah. Let's do this.
Adam: Yeah. You're good.
Bradley: Okay. Finally, it's slow. This is the Rant Mastery page that you'll be taken to, guys, if you go to rant.semanticmastery.com. All you got to do is put in your comment right there and watch this lovely video, that has become the motto of Semantic Mastery. All right. With that said, let's get into questions. You guys seeing my screen okay? Hello?
Adam: Good to go. I've got your whole screen.
Duplicate Content Issues From Copying Product Description And Canonical URL Tag Of Original Product Page To A WooCommerce Affiliate Site
As far as for ranking purposes. Right? Google is going to look at your page and it's going to recognize the canonical is pointed to the original product page and it's going to pass the credit to there. If that makes sense, so you don't want to canonicalize something to another domain unless you're intentionally trying to push the relevancy to that page. Right? Because canonicals are typically used within the same domain. You can do cross domain canonicals there's no doubt, but there's really no reason to do that, unless their both your domains and you're trying to push credit from one domain to another, but in this case as an affiliate you don't want to push the credit to the original product page, because if so then you're basically passing any authority that you had over to there. Does that make sense?
Yeah, again, I wouldn't do that. I would not canonicalize it. You can take the product description, I mean I don't know what the legalities of that are, I'm not an attorney, but personally I just copy the damn product description, I might add a couple of lines of text above it, or below it to make it somewhat unique, but other than that, I would definitely not canonicalize it. Okay.
Redirection & Duplicate Content Concerns WIth SEO Switchbox Strategy
This is something that would probably be difficult to find on our YouTube channel, but there is something that I did want to point this out for people that are new, if you go to our YouTube channel, guys, for example, if you just go to YouTube and you search, I'm going to just walk you guys through this, and then Dean, I'll finish answering your question. Excuse me. Why did I just type that into there? If you just go to Semantic Mastery, search it, and then just go to the channel, so click on the channel button, and Dean, I know you probably know this, but this is more for the benefit of new people.
If you click this little search icon here, guys, and search, because of all the Hump Day Hangouts and because we actually have a team that splits up our Hump Day Hangouts in the individual questions and answers, a lot of the times some of these questions can be answered just by going to search channel. You just type in your query, here, and hit enter, and then you can kind of look through there. Again, Dean, I'm going to answer your question in just a minute. The other thing is guys remember at the support.semanticmastery site, so support.semanticmastery.com we have a knowledge base, if you click on that, you'll see that we have, by the way, Adam, we need to change that, just as a side note.
Adam: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Bradley: Our knowledge base, we have categories here that you can go into and look for frequently asked questions. Okay? Because that kind of stuff comes up often. Now, Deans question isn't really a frequently asked question, so I just wanted to point that stuff out guys, because people that are new to us might not know this, and this will give you a way to find answers to a lot of common questions. All right. Back to Dean, Dean when you do a-
Marco: If I may before you get into answering his question, I think, Dean just joined our Mastermind. If he did, then, he's more than welcome to post questions, more advanced questions in the Semantic Mastery Mastermind for webinars, or for us to answer them there. He has more availability to it.
Bradley: I know he joined RYS, I didn't know that he joined Mastermind, but that's awesome if he did. Okay. All right. Dean, to get back to your question, and I apologize for that, all right, so with the Switchbox SEO strategy or when you're cloning a client site, I've mentioned this before, but you don't, there's certain things that you're not going to do through your domain. Okay? Number one, is when you're syndicating content from the client's domain, it's going to be pushed out to the clients branded network, and the back links are going to point back to the client's domain.
There's really no other way around that, well, there is one other way around it, which would be to publish the post on your cloned domain that would go out to their network, then you'd have to 301 the post URL to the clients post URL, but you'd have to duplicate the post on the client site. You can see how quickly this gets out of hand. That's why we don't bother with that. My point is you don't, you cannot do the content marketing from your domain, because there's no way without having to publish the post twice, once on your domain, and then once on the client's domain, and then redirect from your domain to the clients, your post URL to the clients post URL.
Then, if the client ever looks at their branded syndication network and they see your domain, that's going to bring up a question. Right? You cannot do that. Remember, the client is paying you for content marketing, too, if that's part of your SEO strategy. That is absolutely part of my SEO strategy. Right? Content marketing and SEO are one and the same in my opinion. They go hand in hand. When I do content marketing, it goes from the client's domain out to the clients network. There's just no way around that, but that's what they're paying for, so it's not a problem. Right? To me, it's not an issue.
The other thing is when you're building citations, when you build citations, you got to build them directly in the client's domain, not to your domain, or else you will screw up the NAP. Right? If you're listing your domain in the name, address, and phone number, the NAP, if you put your domain in there then it's going to screw up the NAP data, so you cannot do that either. You got to build citations directly to the client's domain. Does that make sense? Those are two examples, or two instances where the Switchbox strategy doesn't work.
What I do with the Switchbox strategy, where I clone the site, it's strictly for pages, not for posts. It's the core of the site that gets cloned, and then everything is on a one to one ratio, so it's a page by page redirect to the clients site, and then I do external link building to that page, so you guys know that the majority of the SEO work that I do, or the kind of SEO that we practice is we do mostly the IFTTT networks, and other tier one links like citations, and press releases, and things like that. But, the majority of external link building that we do, or inbound link building that we do is too the tier one properties, not directly to the money site.
That's what I'll do with the 301 domain, that's my own domain, is if I'm going to be doing additional external link building, which we do from time to time, when it's needed, then I will do that to my domain, that's 301 to the client's domain. In the event that the client decides that they don't need me anymore, I can lift the 301 or remove the 301 redirects from my domain. The client still gets to keep much of the SEO work that was done, because all the content marketing is going to benefit their site. All the citation work that you did is going to benefit their site.
The only thing that you're going to end up recovering is any external inbound links that you built. Right? That's going to be pointed at your domain, when you lift those redirects it's going to remove them from the client's domain and their going still be pointing at your domain. It doesn't mean that when you remove the redirects your clients domain drops out of the index, and yours is replaces it. That's not the way it works. Chances are if you've done everything right the client's domain may see a little bit of drop, but they'll probably still be strong, anyways, because of the content marketing, the citation building, everything else that you've done. Right?
The client's domain will probably still be strong. However, your domain, now has already has a bunch of SEO work done from any external link building already in place, so you are not starting from scratch. You're starting from a position, a well placed position already, as far as, how much SEO work has been done to your domain. Does that make sense? It just gives you like a jumpstart on setting up a new site, because now you have a site that's already had SEO work done.
Of course, you're going to have to go in and change some graphics, you'll probably have to reword the content, somewhat, change contact information, stuff like that from the cloned site, it cannot be a copy of the clients site, obviously. When you revive it as your own, I mean, if that makes sense, but you can change all that stuff out, swap out some details and then you can sell that site or lease that site to another provider, another contractor, another business in that same industry in that same city. Right?
Or, you can keep it as your own and use it as a lead gen site, that's what I do. That's typically what I will do, and it's only happened a handful of times in my career, but I've done that where I've ended up turning the cloned site, with some editing, or some modification into a lead gen site, and that way it's my asset, and that's why I do that guys, so that as I'm building up client asset, at the same time I'm building my own assets with no additional work on my part. Does that make sense? Okay. Well, hopefully that was clear, Dean. We're going to keep moving we've got a lot of questions to get through today.
Anyways, with that said, let's see … It's up to you, you're going to get more authority out of it, Wayne, I just had to read the question a couple of time and process it. You're going to get more authority out of it. It will be better if you swap out the Google accounts with the ones that you already had. It's a little bit of manual work on your part, I know that. Depending on the service provider, I know at SerpSpace, we will go in and make changes, we charge a service fee for it, but we'll go, we'll have our builders, if we built the network for you, you can submit a support request, and ask for it to be, the network to be reworked a bit, if you explain that kind of stuff, and provide the details, and we will do it.
Now, if we didn't produce the network for you, if you bought it from another provider, don't send it to us and ask us to fix it, because we're not going to. If you bought it from us then I know you can submit a support ticket and just pay a service fee. I don't know what that is off the top of my head, I think it's 20 bucks, but I could be wrong, to go back in and edit it and swap those profiles out. What I mean by that YouTube, Google Plus, the GMB, and Blogger, you can swap those out if the details our provided. All right. Again, we charge a service fee for that, unless that was made up front when you ordered the network. Even then, I think we still charge a service fee for custom stuff like that. Okay.
Adam: Also, real quick, just something to say, because I saw a couple of support tickets about this, and people are like, “Hey. You know, why should we buy network via SerpSpace,” and I'm not going to say that we never make mistakes, obviously it's a human process, but our quality is very high and if there are mistakes they get fixed.
Adam: That's just one of the reasons why buying through SerpSpace makes sense. I mean, it's the process that Bradley developed and we've ported that over so that other people could take advantage of that. I just wanted to put that out there, too, since there are questions people ask and fairly so, “Why should we buy through SerpSpace?”
Marco: Yeah. That's exactly what I was going to, well, one of the things that I was going to say is we have the experience. We've been doing this for years and years. We have it down to a process. If we get it wrong, we do what we have to, to fix it. Now, if it's something like this, where I don't see any wrong in this, it's just that he wants the clients Gmail account to be the one that's triggering everything and in charge of everything, we do go in and fix it. We charge a minimal fee of 20 bucks. I mean, come on, it's like, yeah, sure go get it fixed, but what sets us apart? Why should you buy from us? We're the originators, guys. We do it right.
Bradley: Yeah. And, it's 100% manual, guys. These are completely hand built. Everything that we do in SerpSpace is 100%, as far as the network building, 100% hand built there's no automation involved, whatsoever. Because of that they're stronger. They stick longer, for the most part, unless you're doing some really nasty spammy stuff. Also, in case something goes wrong or you have a custom request like this it's easier, because it just gets routed back to the original builder, so they're already with the project, because they built it and they can go in and make those changes very, very quickly. Right?
Otherwise, the only other thing, Wayne, is again, if it's another service provider they probably won't do that for you, but you can do it on your own. To do something like that on your own it would take you probably about an hour. Depending on how much you think your time is worth, if you have, again, if you bought it from SerpSpace and asked us to fix it then it's a small nominal fee, and in my opinion it's definitely worth the money, because if it takes you an hour, I think an hour better spent doing something else.
It is kind of a pain in the ass, because you have to go in and not only update the applets inside of IFTTT, but you got to go through all of the properties that are interlinked, if they're interlinked properly and swap the URL's out. If that makes sense? Okay. Again, a little bit of a pain in the ass, but it can be done manually. It would probably take you about an hour, or you could ask your service provider, chances are they're going to deny that, but you could always ask. I think, it's going to be stronger if you swap those out, you can proceed the way that it is, but just know that you're not going to be pushing authority into that one profile, or brand account as much as you would if you were using the actual client accounts that were set up, originally. Okay.
Let's take a look at that real quick. What I would suggest is using multiple DNS services, so that you're not just using one. If you look at IP ranges, so go to cloudflare.com IP's guys, here's the IP ranges. Okay. That's what you got. Right? These are ranges, here, so you can see zero to 20, so there's 20 IP's, but those are class D, so that you'd get, these are all on the same, the only thing that's unique is the last part, what do they call that? Subnet, or whatever. My point is you do have a good list of IP's, but I won't recommend doing, because we've done that, too.
For example, in the Mastermind we talked about hybrid PBN's, I cannot get into the details of that, but hybrid PBN's are where you buy an expired domain, you build a PBN on the site, on the root domain, and then you build a bunch of sub domains, and you can host the sub domains on various IP's. Right? Remember guys you can create sub domains and map them using third party DNS services to other IP's they don't have to be on the same IP as the root domain. We talked about using various sources, you can use Amazon S3, you can use other Cloud storage accounts to host HTML files, you could do other hosting accounts.
You could do all of that and map the IP's, so that you have multiple IP's for a PBN cluster that's built off of one domain, with a bunch of sub domains all having unique IP's. Does that make sense? The way that you can do that is using multiple third party DNS services. My two preferred ones are CloudFlare [inaudible 00:30:38] and Amazon Route 53. Okay? They will give you a range of IP's and you can do what you're mentioning, but I recommend using more than just one, like more than just CloudFlare, is my point. Okay.
Marco: If I could just add. I hate this word, PBN, because it's not really PBN, what he's doing is he's probably buying either expired domains or domains with metrics, resurrecting them, setting it up, and then driving a link from that to whatever the destination is and that's not the definition of a PBN, because a PBN is a set of websites that are linked to each other and built for the sole purpose of providing a link. You had big PBN networks taking down where you go in and you'd get your URL and multiple, it depended on how much you paid.
What the tests are showing, right now is that a lot of these domains that you guys are buying, especially if they're expired, if you don't do your due diligence and if you don't look carefully at the back link profile, all you're going to do when you link over from that PBN to the destination is you're going to tank the rankings of the destination website. Remember, I'm warning you. I'm telling you what's happening. I'm not telling you from what I heard. I'm telling you from what I tested and what I know.
Bradley: Yeah. Now, what about, though, as far as using them as second or third tier links to power up first or second tiers?
Marco: That's what we would do-
Marco: First we said, though, we don't just have a website sitting there for the sole purpose of setting up, or sending a link. We'll add interpages, we will, I don't know if I should tell all our strategy, but IFTTT, some content marketing on the blog, so even the blogs start bringing in, the so called PBN, starts drawing traffic, starts making you money, and becomes really stronger than something just sitting there providing a link. Seriously, it's tested and it's what's happening. I'm not saying PBN's are dead, but they're a dying breed. You better get it right.
Bradley: Yeah. I agree with that. I mean, I stopped building PBN's months ago, probably a little over a year ago, because what I've been doing, and I don't even do this much anymore, but was buying spider domains using Bluechip back links to find them, scrap them, and then buying them and just rebuilding the old site with HTML download it from Wayback Machine, or archive.org, and just hack my link into the page, and that's it. The reason I like doing that is because they used to be real sites, right?
That way they look like real sites, still, and I don't have to worry about content marketing and all that other shit, because remember guys, you buy a brand new domain or an expired domain. You go in and you build a WordPress blog on it with new content and all that, and the other, even if it's in the same topical category that the old site was in, it's still a new domain, it's a new WordPress site, so it's going to look like a PBN, unless you really build it out to look like a real business website.
What I like about rebuilding old sites is that they look like real business websites, because they were real business websites. I don't have to worry about any of that stuff. Right? I don't have to worry about content, and siloing the site properly, and adding all the social profiles and all that crap, I don't have to do all that, but even now I don't even do that very much anymore, because we're able to get results, not doing it. Not having to do it as much. Anyways.
Marco: That's without bringing up the fact that you're linking probably from a sandbox domain over to your money site.
Marco: If you don't know how to get that so called PBN out of the sandbox quick enough.
Bradley: As far as this Cass, looking at the IP, like rocket IP's, I mean the price looks good, it's actually a really good price for IP's. The problem that I have with using any sort of providers like these is that they overload the hell out of their IP blocks, so that they end up with 100's of sites on shared IP's and because it's SEO hosting, it's a ton of spammers that have just got a bunch of spammy sites hosted on these IP's. Right? You end up, you put your sites in what they call bad neighborhoods.
All that is going to do is basically cause bad footprint issues, because links coming, and that's pretty common, guys. Over the last couple of years that's become more and more of a negative factor. Right? If you've got, that's why we always recommend for your money sites, especially, that you go out with good, you go pay for good hosting, and we've been saying that for years, because you don't want money sites being hosted in bad neighborhoods. All it takes to be in a bad neighborhood is to have a few really spammy sites in the same IP block, and that's one of the problems with shared hosting. Right? Especially cheap shared hosting.
These type of SEO hosts, here, they literally weigh over stuff the IP's way past capacity and the reason they do it is because they realize that the majority of those sites are used specifically for SEO purposes and don't generate any traffic. They're just websites sitting out there on the web, for the purpose of a back link, because of that for the most part, the vast majority of sites on the shared IP's don't receive any traffic, which means there's very little bandwidth usage, so they can overload the hell out of these IP's. Right? What happens then, is if anyone of those sites, or a number of those sites in that IP block end up receiving traffic for whatever reason, maybe the bots come crawling like crazy on a handful of sites, or maybe somebody actually strikes it lucky with a promotional campaign or something, who knows. If any amount of bandwidth, like if a number of those sites start to receive traffic it can end up tanking the whole entire block. Right? All of the sites go down.
That's another common thing you'll see with SEO hosting is that your sites, especially if you put uptime monitor on them, like Up Robot, or something like that, that would notify you of when the sites go down, you'll get hammered with notifications about how often your sites go down, and it's because, again, the IP blocks are way overloaded. I don't recommend it.
What your actual question about using a VPS, and using Cloudflare and various DNS services is a better way to go, in my opinion, than IP hosting, or SEO hosting and the reason why is because if it's a VPS you're going to have essentially dedicated bandwidth for that, that's for your particular VPS. You'll have a lot more control over that and a lot less chance of your sites going down. Okay. Make sure if you're going to do that, you got to get your SOA records, your name servers, your SOA records, all that stuff you have to be real careful about setting all that up Cass.
Okay. Tim's up next, he says, “Yes. I'm the real Vasquez,” so Hernan, he's saying that he's the real Vasquez.
Adam: Man, good day, too, Hernan's not here to-
Bradley: Defend himself.
Using Multiple IFTTT Accounts To A Client Site
Bradley:“Is it okay to have to or more IFTTT accounts directing traffic to website? Thanks, as always.” Yeah. Tim, absolutely, you can have as many as you want, you just got to consider the consequences of what you're doing. You know what I mean? It's absolutely fine to do that. It just depends on what you're trying to do. For a money site, I recommend always to just stick with a tier one network, a branded tier one network, only, if you're doing blog syndication. If you're doing YouTube syndication, you can stack as many networks as you want it makes no difference with YouTube as the trigger, it makes no difference.
But, with money sites I recommend only doing a tier one branded network only because that makes sense, that's normal for a business to share it's content to its own network of web 2.0 and social media accounts. Right? That's normal. That's logical. It's expected. When you start sharing the same content to persona accounts, for example, and the persona accounts the only thing they have on them is content coming from one source, then that is clearly used for SEO manipulation, and there's no way, it's like you can smell that from a mile away. You know what I mean?
My point is you don't want to do that, because that's a footprint issue. It just depends on what you're doing. There are instances where that makes absolute sense. Somebody was asking a few weeks ago on Hump Day Hangout about having a multiple authored blog, and wanting to set up a separate syndication network for each author, and was that okay, and yes that's perfectly fine, but I would, because you have a branded network around the main blog, then you have, if you have say four authors would you want four separate persona based, or maybe there real authors, there still personas, so persona based network rings with the same content. Yeah. That makes sense to do so because an author will share their own content, no matter where it's published to, they'll share it to their own social media accounts, most the time, for traffic generation and to show off their work and that kind of stuff. That's logical, as well.
They probably wouldn't be posting across their own personal social accounts, all of the content from that site, if there is other authors, too. Right? They'd just be posting their own content. In that particular case, using the author feed, which you can get from WordPress, using the author feed to trigger those persona based networks is the way to go. That way the persona based networks are being triggered by their, the authors content only. The branded network gets triggered by all content published on the site, but the persona or the author based networks would only get triggered by the author content, alone. Does that make sense?
Again, you just got to consider what you're doing and think about it, does it seem logical? Does it seem natural, or does it seem spammy? If it seems spammy don't do it. If it seems logical, or you could make it to where it's logical, and don't justify it, it's got to be like, in my opinion, it would be like if somebody were to review this would they come to the conclusion immediately that you're spamming, or would they have to do some more investigation to determine that? Right? Okay.
Earl, the main thing that I would see here with this is 40 or 50 more keywords you'd want to silo that site. Right? You're talking about a lot of different keywords that this site wants to rank for, so because of that, you're going to want to add silo structure, build silo structure into the site, so that's going to determine how you have your site siloed, compartmentalized. Right? How you have it siloed is how it's going to determine your internal linking structure from within the post. In other words, you got to place the post within the proper categories, or proper silos within the site.
You don't want to cross link from one silo to another, for navigational purposes it makes sense to do so, guys, like if you're optimizing for the visitor, for the user, human optimization, then it makes sense to link cross silo links. Right? It makes sense to do that, but I always recommend that you do that with a no follow link, so that you're not bleeding the theme of the silo. As far as pushing internal juice, so what they call page rank sculpting or I guess we call it equity sculpting or juice sculpting, now. Right?
You would want to use your do follow internal linking structure, internal links to only link within the same silo. Again, when you're trying to rank, if you're trying to rank a site for 40 or 50 more keywords as a flat site, which means no silo structure, whatsoever, that's going to be messy anyways. Right? I recommend that you would silo this site out and then depending on how you have your supporting articles stacked within the silos is going to determine how you're going to do your internal links.
That's going to cut way, way down on it, because you're not going to link from one silo to another unless you're doing it for navigational purposes in which case you're going to use a no follow link, and that doesn't really effect SEO, anyways. Does that make sense? As far as if there is a number of how many, I don't know, what that number is, I know that there is a law of diminishing returns that applies to internal links within a page or a post, but I don't know what the threshold is, where it really starts to have a negative effect or at least not have a positive effect, like a natural effect. I'm not sure what that threshold is. Marco, do have any insight on that?
Marco: No. No, I don't.
Bradley: Yeah. The only reason why I don't know what that threshold is, is I've never tested it, because typically the post, pages and posts on a site that I'm working on don't have anymore than two or three internal links, anyways. It's very rare that there's more than that. That's just because that's the way that the sites are siloed out. Okay? You could play with it, Earl, I recommend you should build silo structure into that site, and then you can start playing, once you have structure in place, you can start playing with posts, and link number of links within the post, and then you'll be able to determine if you're tracking your keywords, and you have your site siloed properly, then let's say in silo one you do three internal links from a post, within the same silo.
Then, over at silo two, in another post you do like 12 internal links and measure the kind of results that you see with your rank positioning, because if you see that one has a significant improvement over another, then you know you can start to through a process of elimination determine what's working and what doesn't. I mean, that's all we do, guys. Is we just set up tests all the damn time. All right. Cool.
Yes, Paul. No, first of all, I have seen some, it's kind of odd, I've been spending 10 and 12 hours a day in YouTube for the last four or five days, for real. I'm doing a lot of YouTube SEO work, right now, and I've noticed, it's interesting, but if you log in to a brand new account, the interface is completely different than what we're used to seeing, like even from this, it's different. It's way different. It's weird, because I only get that on new accounts, existing accounts I'm not seeing that, yet. It could have something to do with that, it's just that change is going on in the background.
I suspect that's probably the problems that you're having, Paul, so if Paul is experiencing these problems now, guys just be aware that it's probably coming down the pipe, we're probably all going to start experiencing them, as well. All we can do is just roll with punches. Right? It's all we can do. Yes, annotations are going to be deprecated guys, they are discontinuing annotations, after May two. It's going to be end screens and cards, only. Okay. All right.
We got enough time for a couple more, Tim says, “My dumb earlier question, let me clarify, how can I have two or more IFTTT wheels, I guess I should have said, and this may be just as dumb, two or more wheels on different accounts, all pushing the same money site homepage, or break it up to other pages on the site?” Yeah. Okay. I just explained that, Tim, so hopefully that makes some sense. You know, like I said, what I would prefer, I would recommend that you do is if you're going to build another tier one network, that's not branded obviously it wouldn't be branded.
You don't want two branded networks for the same site that wouldn't make sense, but if you had a second, like a persona based network that you want to use as a tier one network, you can get away with it, but you better be posting other content to that, besides the main site. You better be posting content from related content sources to that network, so that you're burying the content from your money site among a bunch of other content that's related and relevant. Right? Set it up as if it were a second tier blog syndication network. You can do that, I don't recommend it, but you can do it.
Using Generic Keywords When Sending Links To Yelp Citations
Also, guys, remember your Yelp page, depending on, at least there used to be, I don't know now, it's been a while since I've checked, but it used to be once you verified the Yelp page, the link, became a verified Yelp business, then the link would become a do follow link from Yelp. I don't know if they stopped that, it's been awhile since I set up a new Yelp listing, because now I outsource all that, but it used to be, so if it was a verified business listing it would turn to a do follow link from Yelp, but if it was unverified it would be no follow.
They might all be no follow now, I would suspect they most likely are. Keep that in mind, because remember no follow links don't pass anchor ratios. You can go more aggressive with Yelp, and you don't have to worry about it effecting your money site, negatively. I would still try to keep it so that's a natural looking back link profile, even if your velocity is completely unnatural, I would still want to keep the anchor text ratio somewhat natural looking, so it's not a 100% pure spam. Okay.
All right. Adam, is yelling at me, so I got to get off, guys. “What kind of links are you sending to citation sites, since they would be considered tier one sites?” The same that we always do, Ken, which is using contextual links of higher quality for tier one, to the tier one sites. In other words, your tier two links, which are pointing to tier one, use contextual higher quality links, from higher quality sites, if possible, and then you can throw a kitchen sink spam behind those, if you want. Marco's even seen through his testing in the lab more and more, Google is looking further and further out, now at back links. I would be cautious in throwing any kind of kitchen sink spam at all, now. Okay.
All right, guys. Sorry about the rest of the questions, I didn't get to answer. A lot of really good ones today, though. We appreciate everybody being here. By the way, don't forget rant.semanticmastery.com, go there to post content ideas for us for the livestreams. I think that's it.
Adam: Yeah. Everybody go ahead and sign up for the webinar if you want to find out about Live Rank Sniper and also we have these pages usually set up by Friday, at the very latest, so it's like we said, first come first serve, and if we get too many questions, obviously, we run out of time, but post your questions early and we try to answer them.
Bradley: Okay. Cool. All right, guys. Thanks for being here. We'll see Mastermind members in about 10 minutes. Thanks, guys.
Bradley: Hey, everybody. This is Bradley Benner with Semantic Mastery. It is Wednesday, February 8th at 4 p.m. Eastern. This is Hump Day Hangouts episode 118. Wow. We got Hernan on and Marco on with us today. What's up, Hernan?
Hernan: Hey, guys. Hey, everyone. It's really, really good to be here.
Bradley: Marco how are you?
Marco: What's up dude?
Bradley: Adam's not here who typically does announcements, but I know that Hernan and Marco both wanted to tease a couple things or talk about a couple thing so I'll let you jump right into it.
Hernan: Yeah. Well, first off that we're getting close on the VPH, Video Power House launch. There's some really, really powerful stuff going on in there. We will give you guys … Adam didn't allow me to share with you guys the link to actually jump on the list, but I'll try to convince him to actually share the link with you guys next week so that you can jump in. We will have a bunch of stuff going in there. We have training for the guys that are in the list that we are not sharing anywhere else. I think it's going to be pretty cool so that you can jump in the Video Power House. Also one of the things that we discuss on our last meeting in Panama was the possibility of start offering services, in particular traffic services.
Bradley has been diving hard into PPC, in particular AdWords and YouTube. Myself I've been spending a lot of time on Facebook advertising. We decided to go ahead and set up a traffic agency. We are polishing the details and that's going to be available soon. If you guys have projects that need traffic, you can start contacting us and we will give you the details shortly. We're still ironing out the details and that's going to be launching soon as well.
Bradley: We're going to be starting off with Facebook and we'll be adding AdWords, search PPC, as well as YouTube. AdWords for video and Bing search and then probably a few months down the road we'll be in the display network. Well, we'll be using display network for like remarketing, retargeting stuff, but like setting up separate display campaigns will be something that comes down the road. Just to let you guys know.
Hernan: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yup.
Bradley: Okay? What else?
Hernan: Marco? You want to say something?
Marco: Yeah. Have I mentioned how easy it is to rank in YouTube ever since they tweaked the algorithm to make it more difficult? Have I mentioned how easy it … Should I even be saying anything?
Bradley: Probably not. Not yet.
Marco: Sorry. Okay. Moving on, we're deep in the lab. You guys know that. We recruited programmer, right, Cesar. Most of you guys know Jesson from our Done For You RYS services. He's in there training. We have two master spammers. I am in awe. You guys know that I teach to a whole other level when I spam, but these guys outdo me and I'm impressed. Sometimes when I look at their spamming, literally I want to cry. I'm so happy. It's just so awesome man. The great thing about it, remember how I always say you have to be a master mimic with Google? If you don't have the trust and authority to rank, you have to look like you do so that you can rank. Well, we've accomplished that. I shouldn't say accomplished. Yeah, I can say it. This is the level that we're going to.
This is what we're going to have available come August. Guys, get ready because it's not just like everyone else does where they just repolish old crap and sell it to you like it's new. You should know better than to expect that from us. It's just something that's so awesome, I can't even say where we are because somebody else will take credit for it once we do it, right? They'll get the training and then they'll put out their own training and say it was theirs. Like they're doing with IFTTT now where supposedly they invented it. I invented Google Drive is what I'm going to come up with, right? I invented Google Drive guys. I'm going to take credit for it. Anyway, enough ranting. Be ready. It's awesome.
We're spamming the crap out of everything and getting just tons of results in some of the most difficult niches that you'd ever imagine. I'm going to leave it at that.
Bradley: I love that you said the spamming is so beautiful that you almost cried. That must be some lovely spam.
Marco: Tears of happiness man.
Bradley: All right. Cool. Well, guys, the only announcement I have is next week, next Wednesday, immediately following Hump Day Hangouts is the IFTTT update webinar. I think it's either number 8 or number 9. Anyways, we got several things to go over next week so just be aware of that. The event has already been posted in the Facebook group. That's where you can find the link that will take you over to the event page for the webinar. Also we have a master class today immediately following Hump Day Hangouts. If you guys don't have anything else, I'm going to go ahead and jump into the questions.
Hernan: We're good.
Bradley: We're good? All right. Let me grab the screen. Is the audio back now guys?
I mentioned this in that. My strategy has completely done 180 degree shift. I would recommend personally anybody that's new, it depends on what kind of resources you have available. Typically people either have more time than money or more money than time. It really depends on where you're at. I suggest starting off with paid traffic initially now. That's my strategy going forward which would be … I start with Google search PPC or pay per clicks since that's all jargon to you. That's AdWords, okay? Google AdWords. That where you pay for your traffic. What I found is especially before starting in an SEO project, I like to use AdWords now to determine … Find out more data about my market. It's more like discovery like anything else.
It's research and discovery, right? It helps me to identify the pain points, the keywords, the actual search queries that people are typing into Google, where the traffic's coming from, what converts. All of that I can fine tune and kind of get set up and gather data and start fine tuning my sales funnels or opt-in funnels or whatever it is that I'm trying to do, whatever my conversion goal is, right? Excuse me. I can start getting that set up, start collecting data and then I'll turn around and build out an SEO campaign once I've identified the successful terms, the successful keywords and the pain points in the market. You can determine all of this rather quickly with AdWords. Cost you a few hundred dollars in traffic if you know what you're doing.
If you don't know what you're doing, you could spend thousands of dollars in traffic. That's personally how … I'm not starting anything with SEO anymore. Not right out of the gate, okay? Because SEO has become so complicated and so complex unless you're Marco and you're the spam king, but seriously, SEO has become so complicated and so complex and it's difficult and it takes time and you have to be patient. My strategy like I said is turn to paid traffic. Then once I've identified the things that are working in that particular industry or for that project, then I will go ahead and start setting up the SEO portion of the campaign.
Because I only want to spend time and energy and money on SEO work for the terms I already know will be successful because I've proven that through paid traffic. Guys, that's not an old concept. It's new to me. I mean it's a new concept. It's an old concept. It's new to me just because I always ignored it. When I heard other people for years say that same thing, I always ignored it because I was adamant about just using SEO. I was successful doing so. Again, I say for new people that are just starting out, now if you don't have any money to invest in paid traffic, then SEO is going to be the way to go because you obviously would have more time than money to be able to invest, right?
If that's the case, then I would recommend starting with probably video SEO which is typically what I tell people I do when they start off if they're going to start off in the SEO route is to go with video SEO because it's usually a lot easier than trying to rank websites and stuff or webpages, but it depends on what kind of webpages you're trying to rank. Because again that's one of the products that we have called RYS Academy uses Google Drive files which are free to not only rank the drive files themselves, but also to help rank whatever properties that we want. That's a more advanced course, but it's very, very, very effective. What I like about it is you don't have to learn …
You can use specifically just Google Drive to be able to rank stuff as well, rank the files themselves, as well rank other properties. You don't need to learn everything else like web design and back link building and all that other kind of stuff you really don't need to learn. Vanita, starting off as a rank beginner which is which you're saying that you are, again I would recommend starting with paid traffic if you have the resources available. If you don't, then I would start with video SEO. That said, I can point you to some courses that we have if you want to learn AdWords. Specifically like you said you want to rank real estate and mortgage broker websites, I think those are great for Local Kingpin.
Local Kingpin is a product that we developed underneath one of our sister companies called Mastery PR. Local Kingpin is specifically for setting up lead gen sites, lead generation sites, or sites for local businesses, brick and mortar local businesses. Real estate agents, mortgage brokers, those would work well. They would fit the Local Kingpin model very, very well. Again if you want to start with SEO instead, then I don't know guys, what would you recommend? IFTTT SEO Academy probably.
Marco: I would stay with IFTTT SEO, but if he … I'm not sure if Vanita's a he or a she, but if you're that new, I would say go learn the jargon. Go learn what it all means. There's places where you can learn the terms so that you're familiar with whatever it is that we're talking about and then move on from there. You can do it both, learn the jargon and implement IFTTT SEO Academy. You can also do that the Local Kingpin. I would say real estate and mortgage broker, high competition and he's going to have to pay a large amount per click unless he really dials it in and goes after something with less competition. You'll have to take a look. You have to know your market. You have to know what it is that you're going after.
You have to know where the money is so that you can concentrate. Because if you only have a hundred bucks a month to spend on AdWords which is okay, you can possibly generate a couple of leads from that, but that's all you can expect is maybe a couple of leads from that hundred bucks that you invest. Learn. Learn all you can. Take in all you can while at the same time taking some type of action. Don't just consume information and do nothing because then … When you're done consuming information, you're right at the place where you started except you know more. You know more, but you still haven't done anything. You haven't made a nickel. At least if you start implementing ideas, you can go through YouTube. We have a YouTube training course.
We have a whole bunch of things that you could take advantage of and try to generate some type of income while you're learning. That would be my advice.
Bradley: One thing I want to add to that because Marco mentioned that real estate keywords and mortgage learn type keywords are typically expensive when you're paying for the traffic. PPC, pay per click, they're typically the competition is high so it's expensive, but so is the competition for SEO in those industries. The competition is high in both of those industries regardless of whether you're doing SEO or paid traffic. It really doesn't matter. Either way the competition's going to be high. In AdWords, all that means is you're going to pay more per click. Your clicks are going to be more expensive.
Obviously your goal is to generate leads and so the leads, the cost per lead or cost per acquisition's going to be higher because it's competitive and there's a lot of other people typically bidding on those keywords. In SEO, again that's very, very … I know because I've worked with several real estate agents in the past and a real estate broker, an actual Re/Max affiliate. I can tell you that the SEO is really difficult for those as well because a lot of the times you're dealing with … For SEO the competition is the big, big website. Re/Max and Long and Foster and what's … Redfin I think is one of them or whatever. There's a whole bunch of, Zillow's another one, whole bunch of real estate websites that generally take up all the space on page one.
It's very, very difficult to rank with SEO in those industries as well. Like Marco said, you definitely want to find out where the money is because regardless of whether you're doing AdWords or SEO, if you don't know where the money is, then you're going to be wasting both time and money on testing and trying to find out. Personally I like the AdWords route better because I can get to the pain points. I can understand the market a lot faster and then once I understand that market, then I'll put the effort into the SEO like I mentioned before.
Because especially in a competitive market that's competitive with SEO guys, if you try to go right out of the bat and just assume that you know where the money is in the market and start working on all this SEO stuff just to find out three months down the road, six months down the road when you finally get something ranked and it starts generating some traffic, but it's not converting and it's generating any revenue, you just lost three to six months worth of work. Right? Three to six months just to find out that you were targeting the wrong damn terms or that you were in a market that there's no money. That's all I'm saying is I think it's better to start off using paid traffic so you can identify where the money is, what is converting and then put the effort into the SEO.
Again that's prohibited to some people and I get that. You just have to really choose your own battles. You have any input on that Hernan?
Hernan: Oops, I was muted. No, I agree with you. I think this is a complex universe. Again IFTTT SEO Academy I think it's the best way to go initially because we treat … Although we treat some complex stuff over there, I think it's the best way to go. This needs to be taken step-by-step. You learn as you go. We are always saying that you need to be testing. That in my opinion is the best way to learn like honestly. You take a concept that you learn here. You ask your question. We tell you our input and then you go and text and then this works, this doesn't work. That's the best way. The hands-on approach is the way to go in my opinion.
If you go in there and you click on the IFTTT SEO Academy category, there's pages and pages in here of frequently asked questions. This is one that comes up … It's not 100% exact match Ben, but this is very similar to your question. Right here it says, “If I have a YouTube channel and a branded website, can I syndicate both to the same network via IFTTT??” I just want to point this out guys because I know we have some of the same questions come up almost every week or often enough that we put them in the frequently asked questions section. I just want to point this out that this is a resource that you guys have to get your questions answered so you don't have to wait until Wednesday That said, let's cover this briefly. All right. You can.
I've mentioned this many, many times, but if you have a branded tier 1 network and it's being fed or triggered by your money site which is what I recommend if you are using both a YouTube channel syndication network, so YouTube syndication network and a money site blog syndication network. If you're going to use both for the same project, the same brand, then most of the time what I want to do is put the tier 1 branded network attached and triggered by the blog itself. Then the YouTube channel I will put just persona based rings around that. Tier 1 rings or tier 2, whatever you want, as many as you want because it doesn't matter. There's no footprint issues with YouTube still to this day. That could change at any moment. I don't expect it to, but it could at any moment.
To this day there's no footprint issues with syndicating YouTube videos the way that we have the applets or the recipes set up, but there is with your blog, blog syndication networks. There can be footprint issues especially with 2 tier networks with you're using those. I don't recommend using those unless using something like RSS Smasher or if you want to go through the additional trouble of related content feeds, blah blah blah, we've been over that too. Put the tier 1 branded network attached to the blog because you want to benefit your website, your domain, more so than you want to be benefit YouTube because you own that so to speak. You own the website. YouTube's just allowing you to use some space to rent basically a channel on their site.
I always like to push the authority over to the money site if possible. That's why I like to use the branded ring for the money site and then all persona based rings for the YouTube channel. Guys, this is only for if you're going to be using both the YouTube channel and blog syndication for the same brand. You guys get that? Just want to clarify that. However, here's the thing, if you want to have your YouTube channel and your blog trigger the same network, that's perfectly okay to do. It's the same brand, right? It makes sense to do so. What I recommend is a lot of times people will publish videos to the YouTube channel and then they'll take the YouTube video and publish it to their blog and they won't change anything.
They won't add additional text. They won't change the titles. In other words, whatever the title of the video was on the YouTube channel, they go embed it into a post on their blog and then they use the same title from the YouTube video as the blog post title. Then they usually don't add any content below it or if they do, whatever. My point is what happens is if you do that where both the YouTube channel and the blog are triggering and syndicating to the same network, the same branded network or even just a handful of properties within the same network, my point is is that it will end up looking like duplicate posts unless, unless you end up making the blog post unique somehow versus just the YouTube video.
Let's put it this way to try to clarify this or to make this a little bit more clear, if you post a video or you publish a video to your YouTube channel, then you want to publish to your blog, that's perfectly fine as well, but making more blog appropriate style title and add some additional content. One thing that I love to do is to actually take whatever video it is that I'm going to embed into a post on my money site and have it transcribed, right? Have it transcribed. Any news transcription text is blog post text because now and remember again, make the title more like blog appropriate. When you first upload it to your YouTube channel, it's going to syndicate out to that network with the YouTube title and all that.
Then when you publish it to your blog, if you switch it up and make it unique enough even if the same video is present in the post, it doesn't matter because it's a unique post. Does that make sense? It's a different title and you have additional content. It's not just a republishing of the same video. The problem occurs when it … Because it looks spammy guys. If you have in your branded network basically what looks like duplicate posts because one came from YouTube and one came from your money site and there's very little differences between the two, then it's going to look like duplicate posts on your branded properties which can end up getting them terminated for spam. That's my whole point.
If you want to syndicate from both to the same network, I recommend just switching it up enough on the blog when you republish your video to your blog to make it unique, to make it to where it's not duplicate content anymore. It can be the same video, that's fine, but just switch up the title and add some content, some additional text below the video or in the post itself. That's perfectly fine to do just to let you know. Like I said, that's what I recommend doing guys because you don't want to … Unless you're using it for spam purposes, I wouldn't want to be cluttering up my branded properties with duplicate posts. All right. Number two.
If you already know this market and you know the primary search term has got money in it and you can determine that which by the way we should mention this for Vanita, one thing you can check to see which keywords are … If you see a lot of people paying for ads, so a lot of advertisers for different types … For keywords that you're looking at, then you know that there's money in that niche if that makes sense or in those keywords, right? For Ben, excuse me, Ben, I would be working on AdWords number one because I think that that's critical for lead gen especially now. I think it's absolutely critical, but then I would be focusing on maps too if possible. Now I don't know your situation. I don't know if you have a physical location in this area.
It's very difficult with just small amount of text here to assume everything that's going on for your project specially, but what I would say is maps for lead gen guys. I've got several dozen lead gen sites and I can tell you that the ones that we're just using organic rankings for generating leads have tanked. Like not the rankings have tanked. My lead volume has tanked because there's just so much competition now between the ads and the maps 3-pack that you often have to go pass seven damn listings to get to the first organic listing.
I've noticed for a lot of local terms now guys, I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but for a lot of the industries that I'm in or for the cities that I'm in because I'm pretty much mainly in just a couple industries, I'm seeing a lot more directory sites listed on page one now in the organic section. I'm seeing a lot more of that. They're starting to muscle out the little guys. Because of that, like I said, I would recommend focusing specifically on maps if possible for SEO and I would be focusing on AdWords and maps. Pretty much that's what I would be doing. You guys have any comment on that?
Hernan: Yeah, I think that would be the best way to go. Plus you can have really quick iterations of your website if it's converting. The ability that will give you paid advertising, once you have a proven website, you will be miles ahead of those that are just waiting for them to rank their websites or whatever. Let's say that you need to wait, I don't know, three months for you to rank on the 3-pack or for you to rank on the regular listings, whatever that is, then you have lost three months of potential input on your website. You do not need to wait those three months. If you have traffic coming in and then when SEO kicks in, then you will have version two or version three of your website, et cetera, et cetera. Have that in mind as well.
Bradley: The other part of this that I want to mention is … The second part of this question or the last part of this question when you say, “Would you cast a wide net targeting relevant, but less competitive keywords?” Yes. I would do that anyways. My point is that if you're in a competitive market, it's going to take an SEO strategy, time and patience in order to work your way in or muscle your way in like what you just mentioned. What I'm saying is absolutely always target long tail. Use your blog. That's the whole IFTTT SEO strategy guys is to identify the top level keywords, then find supporting type keywords. The longer tail versions of the keywords, SLI, co-occurring keyword type things, reinforcing supporting keywords that are generally going to be longer tail in nature.
Then start blogging using those keywords. Creating blog posts whether their original or curated content covering those topics using those longer tail keyword phrases as the primary topic of the post. Build silo structure into your site and continuously blog on a consistent and regular basis and you will start to muscle your way into that top level term. You use the blog as your way to build that relevancy and back links starting with just distributing content that's relevant within a proper silo structure. I absolutely recommend that you do that anyways for any SEO strategy you should be doing that.
Why go after the top level that's going to take you months of effort when you can start going after longer tail stuff and get traction a hell of a lot quicker which will also reinforce your efforts to try to rank for the top level term, if that make sense. Guys, I used to go after just the top level terms all the time. Overtime I realized that that was ass backwards strategy. I should be going after the low hanging fruit first to initially get some traction, start getting some leads and thus revenue. Then reinvest and continually work on trying to rank for those top level terms where the real money is. In the meantime, I can start generating revenue especially for lead gen, right? I can start selling those leads whether they came from a long tail search or top level change, it doesn't matter.
A lead is a lead is a lead, right? Again for that just one … I want to point this out one time, but we talk about this tool all the time, Power Suggest Pro has got to be my favorite keyword tool of all time guys for SEO. For AdWords, I just use the Keyword Planner. For SEO, the Power Suggest Pro is probably the greatest keyword research tool of all time in my opinion. It's inexpensive. It's like 57 bucks one time and it's a super simple tool. It doesn't have a learning curve at all. All you do is punch your main keywords in there, select Google if you're going to be targeting Google. You can uncheck YouTube. Then click search and it will start spitting out the suggested autosuggest keywords very, very quickly and you'll get all the long tail ideas that you need for your content marketing right there.
Does that make sense? It will give you a gold that you can use, really long tail stuff a lot of times … Power Suggest will return really long tail terms sometimes that are absolute gold because there's traffic there and you can build relevancy within a silo to help rank your top level term.
Marco: I added the link.
Bradley: Okay. Thanks. This was Ed following up on the IFTTT YouTube like recipes. Again I'll cover that … I'll look into that and get … That will be covered next Wednesday. Edward's up. He's got several questions. Go ahead?
Marco: I would just say with Ben, he's looking to rank …
Bradley: Your audio's coming in and out.
Marco: Can you hear me?
Bradley: I can right now, but you've been breaking up. Try again.
Marco: Let me try it again. RYS Academy if he wants to rank in the mad pack. It's incredible how it influences it. Then we're also working on lessening the competition in organic results. That's something else to look forward to.
Bradley: We're not going to elaborate on that yet, are we?
Marco: Not yet.
Bradley: Okay. Lessening the competition. I love it. All right.
What Is The Priority When It Comes To Consuming Semantic Mastery Products If I Want To Grow My Company?
Second of all, I recommend honestly, this isn't just a shameless plug, but I recommend you join the Mastermind and the reason I say that is because you're buying all of these products of ours. If you were in the Mastermind, first of all, you'd have direct access to my partners and I pretty much whenever you want. Second of all, you have access to all the other Mastermind members. There's some real savvy dudes in our group man. I'm telling you. We learn just as much from them as they learn from us. There's no doubt. We've got some really savvy people in the Mastermind. Third, all the products that you're purchasing most of them would be included in your Mastermind membership so you wouldn't have to purchase all of those products including the Mastery PR products.
For example, Outsource Kingpin and Content Kingpin those are included with the Mastermind purchases, your Mastermind subscription. Local Kingpin, there's a significant discount on that. RYS, a significant discount on that. My point is is going out and spending all these one off to purchase these course, I mean that's great. We appreciate it, but you could have saved yourself a lot of money inside the Mastermind. Plus get a hell of a lot more information and direct access to us, as well as all the other Mastermind members which is a ton of activity on our group all the time guys. I really recommend that you do that Edward. That said, let's see, it really depends on what it is that you're that trying to do.
I know that we talked last week Edward, because you had several questions and I know that we ran out of time and we're probably running run out of time again today. We have the Masterclass and Mastermind webinars that we do biweekly. Today we have a Masterclass webinar. Tomorrow Mastermind webinar. It's something that again you'd have a lot more direct access to us where we could literally help you with specific problems that you're having in your business. That's one thing. The other thing is if you want to do lead gen, I understand that you're doing client services right now. Guys, I get that. There's immediate money in providing client services. Do that. That's fine. I also recommend you start building your own lead gen business on the side so that you control and own the assets, right?
That you stop building up other's people assets and start building your own. That's what I highly recommend that you do. If you need immediate income and you can that by generating client services, that's great. On the side in your off time, in your downtime, start building out your own assets because then you can build out lead gen assets in whatever niche or whatever city you want. I recommend zeroing in one particular industry and sticking within that industry. Seriously. Go all in 100% in one vertical guys and stick with it because then you can become an expert and a big fish in a small pond. If you try to go broad and just say, “I'm going to provide local SEO or consulting services or lead gen services for any business that will take me,” you have to do all the research on every new project.
You have to start from square one. If you select one particular industry and zero in on that, then you can become an expert. Well, you're going to constantly be doing ongoing research anyways, but all you're going be doing is adding to what you already know. You're going to continually get better. You're going to be able to speak the language fluently of those people in that industry so you'll know the vocabulary, you'll be able to speak directly to their pain and you'll be able to charge a hell of a lot higher prices for your services too then if you try to be a jack of all trades if that make sense.
Marco: Can you scroll up real quick to Wayne's comment because Wayne … He's a Mastermind member so that's why I wanted you to read that.
Bradley: “Edward, it's a business not a hobby. It's only expensive if you don't use it. Pick the minds of the Semantic Mastery team and the Mastermind.” I appreciate that Wayne. Totally agree. Look at all questions from Edward. Oh, wow. All right. We're going to have to move on because we're at 4:37 already. Again my best suggestion is to join the Mastermind, Edward, because if you're willing to put in the effort and the work and spend the money on training which obviously you are and you have that desire and that drive, you would be a perfect fit for the Mastermind. You'd save yourself some money and you would literally get all the information that you could possibly need inside there. All right. Next. This is Toby. I remember.
How Long Do I Have To Wait For My Website To Get To Page #1?
Sometimes domains just are like … I call it an algorithmic anomaly. It's just some domains just are at a disadvantage right out of the gate and there's not really any rhyme or reason to it. If you build multiple sites for the same project essentially, then some are just going to perform better than others naturally. Again it's difficult to do if you're doing a lot of projects. I get that. If you're only working on a couple of projects, it makes sense to instead of just putting all your eggs in one basket, so one site, build out two or three because one of them is going to outperform the others hands down every time. It's just the nature of the game guys. I would say it is a new norm.
Dancing and that whole probationary period, Marco's done a fantastic job on a blog post about that. They called it the Google Dance and making changes and that kind of stuff. Dancing a lot especially for new sites is the new norm, but also if you can build additional sites, you may find that just one site will outperform all the others by leaps and bounds. Then that's your winner, right? Like Terry Kyle because that's a strategy I learned from him that he'll go out and build five sites around a particular set of keywords. Invariably one will always outperform the other four. There will be a mixed ins to how well each one of them performs, but there's one that rises to the top and then that's the one going forward that you put the most effort into, if that make sense.
The other properties guys is not a waste of time because the other properties can be used as feeder properties. Parasites. PBN sites. Sites for back linking purposes. The other sites aren't a waste. You just identify which one's going to perform the best in search and then use that to be your money site and all the other ones become feeder sites.
Hernan: I wanted to add real quick that when you have a winner, when you have a winning domain, you can see it right off the bat. It's crazy. I don't know you could struggling like for months to get a domain to page one, but when you have a winning domain, you only need a couple of tweaks to the onsite SEO. Not even back links. That's the power of having a winning domain. You will make things so much easier. That's why Terry Kyle's approach is this because he's really on par with that. You can really tell when you have a winning domain right off the bat. I don't know why. Maybe it's some randomness in it or maybe there are fluctuations of the algorithm. I don't know why, but there's this randomness that you need to have in mind so it feeds your project.
I would suggest that yeah, go ahead. To test it out is super simple. What you do need to do is set up three WordPress sites with three different articles and optimize them for SEO. The one that gets without links, without anything, with the default WordPress thing, once you have that, the domain that hits the higher rank if you would or page 2 or bottom page 1, whatever, that's the domain you keep. It's super straightforward, super simple. It will take you half an hour and it can save you months of trying hard for ranking your domain.
Marco: He also has a Google site ranking on the first site.
Bradley: Yeah, I saw that.
Marco: I would say optimize that. Make that the hub. Make that where everything starts. Once you have that optimized, then you can push the power any way you want. That's the theory behind or part of the theory behind RYS Academy. We play on the fact that Google is narcicisstic. It's going to love itself before it loves anybody else. If it ever does love anybody else. That's what we play on.
Bradley: He says, “Google site just made it on the first page so this should all tell us something or tell us all something,” and that's exactly what RYS Academy does. I mean yeah, absolutely. We use not only the Google sites, but also the drive files to rank shit and to rank pretty much for anything. It's insane. That's what RYS Academy's all about, Toby. If you're not in that yet, you should really check it out. It's just incredible the power that you can have with that. I love this followup comment. “Video Power House is fantastic. It ranked both my videos almost instantly and they both ranked higher than my money site. Six stars.” That's awesome. Crazy because I'd notice we have 802 sites in the network now and I know we've got a bunch of more coming.
There's a lot in there now guys. We've been dealing with on the backend developing out all the processes and stuff to make it super powerful. We're just really starting to ramp out the deployment of the new sites. It's going to be big. What's our target? Our target number of sites?
Marco: We've got over 2,000. Trying to get it to three by release, but we have over half a million, might be closer to 750,000 on the secondary embed network also. Everything is themed. Everything is relevant. Everything is separated and categorized. Guys, that's the power of Video Power House. We're adding IFTTT networks where necessary. The content team is working. The build team is working. Everybody has been working their butt off to make this what it is right now. If it's like this right now, imagine what it's going to be once it's all set. That's what I have to say on that one. I can't wait. I can't wait for it to go public. They're getting results now guys. What else needs to be said?
Internal linking is not going to harm you. I've never experienced any problems with internal linking period. I know that people have said, “Well, you don't want to do internal linking with the same keyword over and over again.” To be honest with you, I've never experienced negative impact from that. I still vary. I still try to add diversification to my anchor text even with internal links. I've never seen a negative … Now I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying I personally have never experienced a negative side effect from too many internal links with the same anchor text. Just to let you know. It's typically a penguin thing which would be an off page inbound link penalty for over optimization of anchor text.
Just to point this out and clarify this, if you're linking from article A to article B and then you want to link back from article B back to article A and their on the same silo, there's no problem. The only problem that would come is if you want to link from article A to article B and they're in different silos, different keyword themes. If that's the case, it's different topical themes. That's typically what a silo will do. It categorizes or compartmentizes, right? It creates compartments or containers of keywords and keyword themes and what we call keyword set. If you want to link from article A .. Silo A and silo B, then I recommend no follow in the link because otherwise you drain or bleed the them.
You don't want to bleed one silo over to the other. I would recommend for navigational purposes, you can do a no follow link which makes it easy for readers and visitors, but it doesn't bleed the theme. If you're in the same silo, then absolutely you can do internal linking back and forth and it makes no difference. Does that make sense? Usually you have a top level silo page and then depending on whether it's complex or simple silo will determine whether you have subcategories, an in post or just going with top level categories and posts which would be a simple silo structure. I recommend sticking within simple silo structures as much as possible, but usually you will have the top level page and then you'll have your supporting articles.
You can link from the top level page to any of your supporting articles and you can link from your supporting articles back to the top level page or to any other supporting articles within the same silo. It makes no difference whatsoever. I would recommend that you don't force internal links. If they occur naturally, then yeah, put a link if that make sense.
For example, if you have a client that's got a WordPress site, what I like to do is I like to go out and buy my own domain, clone the client site, put it on my domain on my hosting account somewhere, then set up … It's literally an exact copy of their site whether I built the site or it was prebuilt, whatever. I like to clone the site and then install it on my own domain and then set up page-by-page redirects. You can do it with a plug-in like Simple 301 Redirects. You can do it with .htaccess. You can do it in cPanel. It doesn't matter. Set up literally individual 301 redirects from page to page, post to post. It's a one to one ratio. Then I like to build links to my domain which ultimately resolve to the client domain, but you can't do that with citations guys obviously.
Citations are going to have to be built directly to the client domain, as well as any content marketing that you're doing for the IFTTT SEO strategy, right? The attribution links are automatically going to point back to the money site which would be the client's domain. That's fine. I get that. All I'm saying is if I'm going to be doing internal or, excuse me, additional external link building, additional inbound link building from other sources other than the content marketing or citations, then I like to build links to my domain that is redirected to the client's domain. That's so that in the event that the client decides that they don't … Again guys this is what I mentioned at the beginning of his webinar about building your own assets.
I was telling Edward I believe, both Edward and Vanita, to build your own assets because that's why. Because if you're always building links to your client's site and they decide that they don't need you anymore because you got them ranked now and they want to go pay some guy that called from some spamming email from India 50 bucks a month or whatever, then they could just say, “Oh, you know what? We don't need you anymore.” You lost all that work. You made money while you did it, sure, but now that revenue stream's gone. It's done. Whereas if you had your own domain that you were building external links to, then when the client decides they want to stop paying you, you just remove all those redirects from your domain. Now obviously you have to go on and change …
You can't just have an exact copy of their site, but you have to go … You'd have to go in and change out logos and contact details and then probably edit the text somewhat. What I like to do is just add curated sections to the original text so that it becomes original and change out some of the details on the site. Now I've got a website that's already prebuilt, just needs some modification and I've already got a bunch of back links built to it. When I remove those 301 redirects, it removes that link juice to the client site. That doesn't mean the client site's going to drop out of the rankings and yours is going to replace it. It doesn't meant that at all. Chances are that's not going to happen.
You start off now with an asset that you already own that already has a lot of work done to it and a lot of inbound links. That now with just some additional work on your part, you can end up ranking that site for the same keyword terms and that same area. You end up becoming a competitor of that client that let you go if that make sense. Now you have a lead gen property that you can sell, rent or just sell leads, right? That's what I like to do. It takes some work. Certainly I would change … Again once you remove the redirects guys, you're going to have to modify the site. You can't just have an exact duplicate of the client's site out there on the web. That could get you in a legal trouble.
You could go on and change the theme, change out logos, contact details and then add some additional content or just have the content rewritten or reworked a bit to where it's not the exact same site as your client site. Now you've got a site already that you've been doing work to for however many months or years you've been working on the client site. Does that make sense? Okay. We're almost out of time. I know we still got a ton of questions, but we're also out of time.
Building IFTTT Network To Different Google My Business Listings
I would do one IFTTT network for all four locations and then I would just blog out. You can do category type stuff. In other words, each location should have its own category. I would just be posting from the main money site blog and using the blog post to build links to all four locations. That's absolutely fine. In fact, you could even tie all four GMB local pages into one syndication network. In other words, you'd end up going to have four separate buffer accounts or a paid buffer account which his fine and then you could have all four pages I believe under the same buffer account. I'm not 100% sure if you can do that, but you might with a paid buffer account which is only like $10 a month. I think you can connect four Google Plus local pages to the same buffer account.
Where then all you need is one IFTTT account with the buffer applet or buffer recipe and every time you make a post to your money site, it's going to automatically syndicate out to all four Google local pages. However, you could set it up with categories like I just mentioned. Each location have its own category and that way whenever you post in each category, it's going to be location specific if that make sense. It's a good question though. Guys, I wish we had more time. I see Ed's got a ton of questions here. Guys, I don't have time. Did somebody give him Mastermind? Yeah, thank you Marco. We've got Masterclass coming up here in about five minutes and I got to get prepared for that.
We appreciate everybody being. A lot of good questions today guys. Thanks for everybody being here. You guys got any parting words?
Hernan: Keep in touch and stay tune because we're going to have a ton of good stuff coming your way. Keep in touch and we'll see guys next week.
Bradley: We'll see everybody in Masterclass in just a few minutes guys. Thanks for being here. See you all next week. Bye bye.
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