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Adam: Alright, we are live Welcome everybody to Hump Day hangouts Episode 241. Today is the 19th of June 2019. And this is the episode where we finally gave Bradley a day off. You know, it only took us what like five years and he was able to take a Wednesday afternoon off now, just kidding, Bradley had something come up. He had to go take care of that. He's a busy man, but we are going to hold it down and get your questions answered today. So first off, if you're just joining us and your new semantic to semantic mastery and Hump Day Hangouts, thanks for watching, whether you're watching this live on the watch page or checking this out later on YouTube or somewhere else that's awesome. This is the place to go you can always come to https://www.semanticmastery.com/HDquestions to get your questions answered. Digital Marketing, SEO funnels, Facebook ads paid ads if you got questions about anything about digital marketing, this is the place to do it. And then beyond that, the first thing we always tell people to do is go check out our Battle Plan business you know people are like well where should I get started with you? What should I do? Well, you're already here you're already watching it. But the next step will be the battle plan and head over to https://battleplan.semanticmastery.com for that. And if you're looking to take things up a few notches if you're either starting or you already own your own digital marketing agency or maybe you own a business and you're you know you're taking this on and you want to get it up, ramp it up then go to https://mastermind.semanticmastery.com/. It's not just training, it's about the network that you form and the people you're going to be around other people who are starting growing and owning their own businesses and their own marketing agencies. So anyway, with that said, I want to say hello to who we have here. Shout out maybe Bradley's watching us wonder if he's watching on his phone. So if you are Hello, Bradley Manning on my left and Chris How are you doing? Are you still here? I know he's having storms.
Chris: Doing good. Yeah, like it's been quite hot here like I don't know somewhere in the 90s US temperatures and finally of like, storm here to cool it down a bit. So yeah.
Hernan: Where in the world are you?
Chris: In Austria, man. There's the biggest open-air Fest, opening a music festival this week in Austria. So if you're around, hit me up.
Adam: That's awesome. Marco, how you doing?
Marco: I'm good, man. I'm good. Going into the lab on Saturday. Got a lot of stuff to work on. We got a lot of things to plan on. But one thing I wanted to mention is we're coming up on episode 260. And we haven't said anything, man. Five years. Most marriages nowadays don't last that long. It's good. Let's see. 20 more.
Adam: Any more weeks? Oh my gosh.
Adam: Definitely. And last but certainly not least turn on how you doing, man? You're kind of driving the boat here today.
Hernan: Am I? God? Yeah, we're just gonna throw a captain's hat on you. I'll go, I'll go fetch it. Hey, what's up, everybody? I'm doing well. And new. Well, I'm actually really excited because I think was last week or the week before we started as a little q&a. impromptu was q&a, you know, the section on the mastermind group about Facebook ads. You know, this amount of people on the mastermind group are doing either their own stuff, you know, they have their own lead gen properties, or they have clients or they're running ads for them. And they're running Facebook ads. So we started talking about, hey, how to make them better, better. And, you know, it was like 40 minutes or something was pretty cool. answer a bunch of questions. We had some discussion going. That was pretty awesome. So I intend to keep on doing that for the mastermind members. So it's going to be on the mastermind, Facebook group. And I think you went live to right Adam talking about
Adam: I did like 30 minutes with just the mastermind members. That was a lot of fun last Friday, give him a couple of tips on some books have gone through as far as stuff for prospecting, as well as helping to kind of organize your business, get things running better, and then answer questions about funnels, as well as how to set up some kind of brainstorming with them. Actually some ideas for some sales funnels, and some, I'll say some unique niches, which is a lot of fun. So we had a good time, I think 10 or 15 people were able to make that live and had a few people drop some comments afterward. So yeah, lots of fun.
Hernan: That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. And that's the type of stuff that you can expect on the mastermind group if you decide to join. And that's also the type of stuff that we usually deploy on POFU live and POFU Live 2019 is a real thing. We're already moving forward to that. So we were intended to get as many mastermind people in there as possible. And then we'll send you guys some more details on how to access that. So that's going to be pretty awesome as well.
Adam: So yeah, actually, if you don't mind, I'm going to just real quick, we've had a few people asking about POFU Live tickets already. The dates are set you guys is going to be October 11 is the VIP meetup. And then the actual event days is October 12, October 13. And you'll be able to get your hands on tickets, I believe starting next week, at some point next week, we'll have that ready to go, there's going to be a limited time early bird special. For those of you who know you want to go keep your eyes and ears open for that. So you can grab your ticket, save a few bucks at the same time. And get that locked in. But yeah, it's going to be in Denver, October 11, 12th and 13th. It's going to be a blast. We've got some awesome guest speakers lined up. We've got I don't want to say too much. I'm just excited. I was like dude today who we got, like, it'll be out soon enough. We got some really good stuff planned for you guys. And for the VIP. I know everyone who did it last year had a really good time. We're narrowing it down. I'm down to three ideas for the VIP day, and they are all looking awesome. So looking forward to sharing that with you guys.
Marco: I know, I know for a fact that one of the people, right? confirm one of the speakers confirmed last week, not gonna say who it is. Awesome, dude. He'll have just provided lots of value, just his presentation alone. It's probably worth the price of admission, he has that much knowledge. And that many good things to say about? If I start talking about what he does, then I'm going to guess who it is. So let me just stop right there and say, This guy is great. And we're really happy to have him at POFU.
Adam: Definitely hundred percent agree and I know who it is. And I'm, I'm excited. So Hell yeah. Alright. So I think that's it for announcements that you guys got anything else before we get into it?
Hernan: And then we're good.
Adam: Let's do it.
Hernan: Alright, so now I'm supposed to share my screen right? And go through here.
Adam: And why not? You know, we'll close down those tabs with the other stuff on it.
Hernan: And then I get Yeah, the midget thing.
Adam: The picture of Adams looks like he's,
Hernan: look at that, my boy. There we go. Alright, cool. So let's meet let me get to this because we're this is kind of cool. Alright, awesome. So we're just going to do a little bit of a back and forth here with you guys.
How Would You Optimize A Stock Footage Website That Has Duplicate And Little Written Content?
So acasey is asking, Hey, I have a stock footage website. Now the issue is that a post as little written content, if there are many things in common in all posts, like file size, format, resolution frame rate now will exclude my posts from search and tells it to implicate content? How can I solve that, please help? I would like to chime in here and then maybe, you know, ask Marco's opinion, I would say hey, is there a way that you can increase the amount of text, the amount of copy that you have on those pages? Because the reality is that if you have a stock footage website, you will need to add a little bit of text to most of the to the different posts that you have. Because other than that Google will keep on excluding your posts and you know, duplicate content, what would you suggest mark on those cases? Because that stock footage, and also stock photography, you know, background websites or whatever, whatever, that that could be a real thing. So what would you suggest in those cases?
Marco: Yeah, I'm just wondering, I've seen we've all been to those websites. I'd like to Getty Images and stock photos and all that stuff. And what I've seen them do is that they have them categorized, right? So maybe I don't see we don't have enough information. You just stock footage. But is it all the same categories that all categorize the same? Can he be blog? Right? And why? Why is of the stock footage beneficial? Or who uses it? Why? Question and Answers page, right? That then links over to the stock footage? What's happening is it's Yeah, Google will say in the backend, that it's duplicate content. But what's actually happening is Google, if your website has been around long enough, has found you know, whatever, posts are the most relevant. And those are the ones that that's going to display, whatever else had found that's related or perhaps duplicate, to whatever it is you're doing those will be excluded, of course from search, because Google bot has determined what the most relevant are. So what you have to do is you're going to have to create a variation on those posts that are found to be irrelevant or duplicate. This is not really a penalty is just not server Google's just not serving them. Right. And so how do you get Google to re-index and serve up the stock footage for whatever search query the person is doing? What Yeah, what kind of people search for the stock footage, or kind of people? Or maybe if you talk to your end user? And again, I would say some kind of blog, just anything that would add variation to whatever it is that you don't, because if it's that similar, yes, Google will filter, and it'll serve toward the relevant query, whatever it determines is most relevant, maybe getting down to the schema aspect of it, maybe that's a way for you to create greater information for the bot. Right? So what's happening is Google is looking at your unstructured data, which is the top end, and it's not finding really much. And most of it seems the same to Google bot and if you're not providing a schema that differentiates between all of these things, that now the bot has to guess, and it has to decide, okay, so what's relevant? What, what is this about? And why should I display this for a given query? If I think that this is whole, the same, are related? And I've already found the most relevant answer for the query. That's how I see this. I mean, I, it would be really difficult without knowing more about your website to give you guidance, as far as what you can do, but I hope that that helps some.
Hernan: Yeah, for sure. For sure, it does. But also, I wouldn't judge that, that I think the schema thing would be a good thing, because there are some websites out there are not only stock footage might be video, but out, you know, in general, like, you know, screensaver, background, screen background type of websites they have a lot of, they do, they don't have a lot of content in them. So they might be out of the data off the file itself, and the schema data that you that you're feeding the bot, I think that that could help. So um, so yeah, if you want to, if you want to come in a little bit further, what's going on? Maybe we can help you a little more. So cool.
Should You Be Worried About Location When Ordering A Press Release?
Alright, so John is asking, should I worry about a location when ordering a press release? I live in the UK, would an MGYB press release be less effective than a UK based company. So I think that I think that there's, there's a couple of things here, whenever you're doing a press release, and if you have a UK based company, it will also be a good idea to have maybe some sort of UK based exposure, but we have done this with international quote, unquote, SEO, or we would have, I don't know, a company based in somewhere else in the US, but the press release that link juice that is coming from US-based websites, .com or .net type of websites, they're still really valuable, they're still really powerful. So maybe you can combine that press release with something that, you know, with a local type of UK-based type of websites, which I think is going to be a good idea. But that wouldn't prevent you from ordering MGYB or any other type of press release, I think the first release is still really effective, even if you're in the UK, or Australia because, at the end of the day, the link juice is link juice. And also, you know, you're getting signals from all of this super high authority websites. So I think that that would still be very valuable. What do you think Marco?
Marco: I'm trying to think through this and see how if he has a local company, and his services local, and wherever a Birmingham, England, and your publishing in Birmingham, the PR, excuse me, publishing a press release in Birmingham, Alabama. Okay, so your location, this idea of geo-targeting, and location-based SEO so that you're targeting the how close you are right, to the company of people who are close to that service, you're targeting the location. And so what I would say is that it could work simply from a press release, and link juice standpoint. But I would also say that I'm, I'm tempted to say that you'd be better off with with a local press release service. And then after doing that, you could widen the press release distribution by going to the US and releasing news and making it relevant to the US people who would consume the press release, I do anyone who would read it, rather than just publishing in the US alone, because you are the UK based and if your services are the UK, that you want that proximity, you're still good, it's still going to have an effect because of the links. But I would say you would get more bang for your buck by going first UK, and there are press release services that cater strictly to the UK, and then go with an MGYB PR to widen the press release distribution.
Hernan: so you would recommend going local first, like try to nail a couple of I don't know, local lengths, or, you know, like, I think that he's mentioning that he has a UK based company, not sure if it's local, but he could go into some sort of local UK based press release or local directories of companies and whatnot. And once he has that, then a second stage you will order an MGYB press release to solidify that entity right to validate it. Does that sound?
Marco: Absolutely, because then he gets to create that that that media page on where we use Press Advantage. And everyone knows that we do we said before we've been transparent about that. But they allow you to create a media page, right? Where you get an iframe, and you get the company information. And once you get that in there, it'll help you Yes, totally solidify the brand.
How Can You Use The Embed Code That Automatically Updates Google Trends Data?
Hernan: Gotcha. Alright, Awesome. Cool. Fitz is asking Good day, gents. Thank you for this forum, to ask questions and get real-world answers. Doing so you will get better answers on the mastermind. I'm just saying, Fitz. Doing some Google Trends research today. And notice that they will give you a code that you can embed that automatically updates. How can we use that? That's actually interesting because they'll give you a code that you can automatically update that it will automatically update, I would say that maybe you can put that on a sidebar on a website, you know, and it will automatically have dynamic content in there. So if you have a website that will make sense to put it maybe you can put it on sidebar and footer, we have done that were a couple of a hoodie, call it widgets back in the past or a couple of plugins. I think that they're like out of circulation. But you know, I think that that could be a good way of doing that. Adam, I think you show me something right?
Adam: Yeah, this is cool. If you can put the screen on me. I think he just clicked on me and it'll set it on for everyone else. But this is pretty cool. I had never seen it just in case no one else has seen it. It looks like you can keep the data updated. And I'll do live updates. That's pretty sweet.
Hernan: Nice. Nice. So that's an iframe. That's an embed. And I'm sure that there's additional stuff that you can do in that but it will be like dynamic type stuff. I think that it could benefit from having you know, that dynamically updated on your website. Anything else you asked to add to that?
Marco: Total relevance to whatever he's doing. So as to how we can use that. Are you in RYS Academy Reloaded or wasn't fits in the mastermind? Do it if you're in the mastermind we could go deep into this at during one of the webinars or RYS Academy Reloaded. That's where we teach what we teach you what to do with I frames how to use them, how to make the most use of this type of frames, especially when it's updated by Google. So Google's property updated by Google. How can we use that? Huh?
Knowledge Graph And Map Packs Positioning Clarifications
Hernan: That's awesome. Alright. Alright. So another one. He's saying. I noticed that when I go to search and find the knowledge panel, I see the box that shows that I'm position eight. But Im number one in the three pack and patient three organic No, sure. Not sure. I understand what that number eight represents Any ideas? I'm not sure what he's talking about. Marco over here. So the knowledge panel, show his in position eight. But he's number one in the three pack and page three, organic. So that might be the questions that are dropping before the after the query? Is that what he's referring to? You know?
Marco: No, I don't know what knowledge panel he's talking about. I don't I've never seen a knowledge panel with the ranking position.
Adam: And just wondering if maybe it's I forget if it says this or not. So don't pay attention. But when you're logged in to like, webmaster, or what's it called now Search Console. And then if you're looking at something in your site is returned, it'll have a little blurb. I'll have to see if I can pull that up. Let me
Would It Be Easier To Rank A Regular-Looking Local Business Site With NAP In Google Without Targeting A Particular Niche?
So let's see. GG g Gordon r. g. Gordon are, that's cool. So hi, guys, I just keep on you know, getting hooked up on these on these nicknames. Looks like ISQ you know. Hi, guys. Thanks again, for Hump Day help. Usual it's greatly appreciated it. You got it, man, if you don't want to try to rank in the gym be three pack. But he's that rank aside on the first page organically and rent out the homepage, to a local business to a local business? Is it easier to rank a site that looks like a regular local business to Google and includes an NAP or a side that has tons of content target to both the particular business niche and the geolocation? But it's not branded within an NAP nor configured like an actual business site? That's actually a good question. So you he's trying to rank organically, right, not on the three pack. I would say that if you include that on NAP, and if you make it look like a local business, there's a higher chance you will get a three pack GMB but you still need to verify that entity, right? So I would say, maybe start with content targeted to the particular business niche and the geolocation. And then see what that takes you in terms of the organic now having mind that, if this is a local, if this is a local site, it's a local query, right? Or it will be like people will type in local queries to get to that site. So you know, most of the like, you know, the organic results will be buried just below the three pack if that make sense. You know, so have that in mind. What would you guys suggest in this case? It's pretty cool.
Marco: Okay, so he wants to write the is that a regular website that he's looking to rank? Yeah, I think, or is that the business site? Or is that is that a G site because I mean, you could do anything, or any and all, I mean, it's just setting up as far as which one will rank better. It's the one where the entity is, well, it has to be validated. And I'm not talking about the map pack the three pack. I'm not talking about your GMB listing, I'm talking a validated solid entity that Google recognizes as authoritative and trusted in the niche. Now, it would depend I mean, niches are different, and niches behave differently. In DC plumber, which we gave us an example, in RYS Academy Reloaded webinar that we did, we showed where in DC plumber, we were able to rank both the G site organically, and we were able to rank a top level, a TLD, right top-level domain. And they both rank just as easily. Since they both had drive stacks link building, just a, we did what we do with everything that we do, right, so the Syndication Academy, taking that a tier one branded network, making sure that it's all relevant, and making sure that it all stays clean. And that is providing a more power for the entity that you're trying to rank right now, in today's web, if you guys don't know that it's all about your entity, and the information that you're providing the bot, about your entity that your loss, and whoever you're you're following, you need to follow somebody else. Because right now, in today's web, if you're not going after the entity first and solidifying it right, validating it some kind of way, verify, validate, solidify, and then you get to what I call the end game, which is your brand becomes synonymous with whatever niche or set of keywords it is that you're targeting. And so which is easier, which everyone, you take care of the entity the best. So if you're doing it with regular local business, with NAP and whatever, if that's what you want, the entity that you want, or if you're doing it either way, you're targeting a particular niche, right? And the geolocation. You're saying, but it's not branded, then the one that's branded is going to always rank, in my opinion. And from what I've seen from all of the testings, it's if it's not branded, it's not going to rank as well as the branded entity. I mean, and that's without a doubt.
Adam: okay, real quick, her not going to share screen again, real quick. I found what he was. The previous question was talking about, okay. Yeah, this is kind of cool. So like, for something I wrote up, I did something was talking about App Sumo Briefcase on my website, and then it shows. So I don't know why it's just some specific queries that will show this. But it generally shows the average position, which is I've always seen or just assumed that it's never correct. It's the average. So like, my YouTube video shows up here, but then the actual websites showing up on page two. So it to me this doesn't mean much besides, okay. It's just pulling data that's already in Search Console for me.
Marco: Yeah, but that's not the knowledge panel. I thought,
Adam: yeah. But I thought he was saying maybe this is what he's saying. Sounds Yeah,
Marco: I guess that could be what he's talking about that. But that's something different, you have to be signed in. To get up to get both those type of, of statistics, that's just statistical data is neither here nor there, because it's usually inaccurate. Those three numbers that you see there, I don't know why they're in displayed because they're usually inaccurate.
What Digital Marketing Tool You Can Suggest That Accurately Checks Positions For A Particular Location?
Hernan: Cool. And another question, if you don't mind, since the MGYB three pack ranking is now based on the location of the searcher, what tool can we use to accurately check rank positions for any particular location? Thanks, again, that's actually a good question. And that comes back to what the guys were saying earlier, the fact that you know, the rank tracking checkers, a rank trackers are becoming more and more obsolete, just because of the fact that, you know, like, the queries are tailored more and more to the user. Right. So there are many particular locations, the even the things that they will see will change. Right. So, I mean, I currently that's a tough word, but in, in any case, I would suggest you use Analytics to see how you're doing in terms of the overall traffic that you're getting. That's how your campaign is doing. In my opinion, well, would you suggest in terms of you know,
Marco: if, Gordon, if you have a Google Ads account, you can simulate mobile, but that'll be from whatever the central for the city that you're in is. But you can get data from that. And then Sharif had in what is it? He has a, he has a Rank Tracker? I'm pretty sure. In local citation. I think I think you posted it in one of our free goes, guys, hit him up in our free Facebook group. The SEO and marketing by Semantic Mastery, go to the Facebook group trip out is in there. And you can ask him questions. And I'm pretty sure that he has a tracker built out that goes through the API and will give you local ranking information.
Would Redirecting A Money Site To Google Site With Proper Silo Improve Its Rankings?
Nice. Alright, so a new man or a new man, he's saying that he's from India, so he cannot watch live. So I'm just gonna jump to the next question. I'm just kidding. Hope you you should be up at 3am dude to interact with us live? Come on. Now. Are you doing? I love what you guys do? I have a question. I have a website that has 50 pages and getting like 30,000 visitors a month. But the keywords I rank for are mostly in six or seven position. So if I 301, redirect my money site to a Google site and create 50 of the same pages, three, one redirects all of the pages to a Google site with proper siloed. And myself, we're ranked third or fourth precision for my keywords, please tell, because I want to know if Damn, I just lost it. Hold on, hold on, man. If my website will rank in third or fourth position for my keyword, please tell, because I want to know if this will hurt my website. So basically, what he's saying and he's asking is, if he grabbed his website, which is a regular ranking in six or seven position, and he redirects that website, using the same structure to a Google site, well, that increases rankings, I don't know, you know, with this is like, deep, deep. Um, you know, try and thinking and how the how the Google how the bots will behave and how the algorithm will behave, I would say that my my take on this, it will be that if you're in six or seven position, that means that you're doing great, just need to push, you just need a push to rank, you know, better, or to double your traffic, because going from 67 position up all the way to third for second, or even first position that would potentially double or even quadruple your traffic, right. So I think that you only need like, a little push, what I would suggest is that if you don't have the battle plan, click on this little thing that you can see right here, go get the Battle Plan, click on this little banner and go get the battle plan. It's like, I don't know how much is it but it's like really, you know, inexpensive, and use the techniques in there that we recommend for age websites, I will give that a go before going and trying to do 301 redirect to a Google Site pages, just because of the fact that you're nearly there. I would say hey, if you have a syndication network, just building to syndication at work order, right, and drive stack build it to drive stack, and all of that is explained step by step at the Battle Plan. Any other suggestions, guys, anything that you want to tell him?
Marco: Yeah, he's got a backward. He's looking at this backwards, he's he doesn't want to push his website to a G site. He wants to do it the other way around the G site, and drive stack to his website. So what's the thing Anumaan, what you do is get a Gsite from MGYB.co, you'll you'll get the template, then that becomes your template on how you're supposed to do all the rest of the 50 pages that are on your website, on the G site. And you're simply going to link from those Gsite pages to the corresponding pages on your website. And then you build links into your drive stack plus Gsite, not the other way around. Because then if you build links into the domain, then you subject yourself to all kinds of neat little penalties. And since it's 301, I'd hate to see what that would do to a G site. Although it shouldn't, in theory, do anything to the Gsite, I don't think Google would penalize the G site. But I would say do it, do it the other way around. Think about this the other way the power comes from the G site to your top level domain, not the other way around. Keep the positions that you have keep that traffic because that's a very strong signal to Google. Try to keep your visitors right more engaged on the website, have them stay longer, take action, and make whatever money you can from them, while at the same time you're going to push power. And Hernan just gave you great insight, go get that battle plan and follow the battle plan because there are tons of things that you can do to push power. Once you have that, what I call the SEO shield in place. Once you have that in place, you can push tons of power over to your Gsite simply by copying or you know, however you want to call it mimicking mirroring the website. And then if that doesn't work, there's still loads of things that you could do if when you order that drive stack from us, you're going to get the Done for You Users Guide. And the done for you Users Guide is going to tell you exactly what you can do with a drive stack, and that g site and what things you can do to push power over to the top level domain, whatever your money site is. Another thing that we did is we've been doing webinars for MGYB.co. And one of those was how you can add power to a drive stack plus Gsite. So you have a lot of free information that you can use to add power to that domain that's getting 30,000 visitors and as Heran said, double or even triple the amount of traffic that you have. But push the power the right way. If you push it the other way. It I can guarantee that it won't work as well.
Would Charging SEO Clients Month By Months Better Than Contracts?
Hernan: Hot diggity that's money right there, baby. That's money right there. You got it on Hump Day hang up first. Alright, cool. So Mohammad. What's up? I'll have it my man. He's asking, Hey, guys, so far, I prefer he always bring on the right type of questions, you know, because we can talk about SEO for ages. But then you need to build a business on top of that. So that's awesome. Thank you for bringing in this type of question. So it guys so far, I prefer to charge clients month by month, month by month, as opposed to contracts, our contracts ever a good idea. Although I make sure every client understands SEO takes a while to recruit. It seems to be easier for them to go month by month rather than a contract. I recently talked to people who said contracts are the best way to go. So I figured to see what the SM crew thinks. Okay, cool. So since this is like a business strategy type of question, I think that we should all, you know, chime in on this. And I'll go first because I'm already talking and guess. And the reality is that I always do month to month, I bought, I've always done month to month, and for a couple of reasons. Number one is because all of my stuff is performance base if I don't perform, I don't want to charge you, you know if I do not perform, and I don't want to charge you. So that's number one, I go after that. And that's why I can charge more money. Because this is like performance.-based It's it's also it makes more sense for business owners as well, right? Because, hey, if we don't get along, no harm, no foul, we keep moving forward. Now, I've always done that. It doesn't matter if I'm running Facebook ads, or SEO, I just do it in a way that it takes it makes sense for the client to think in the long term. If a business owner is going to only hire you for 30 days and expect to see a radical return on their investment, they're high, right? There, they're not even thinking right. So you don't want to do business with those type of people. Because business owners, they tend to think long term, they're going to hire you for 3, 6, 9, you know, nine months, even a year, or 12 months, because they understand that they need to keep on investing on their business to get a return. It's unrealistic to think that you know, you're going to make them money over the first 30 days, while you very well could, you know with all that, you know, Mohammed and also if you sprinkle some paid ads, on top of it, not only SEO but also paid ads, you could very well blow them up the first month. But that's not the point. The point is that they're investing in you and their relationship. for the long term. Every business owner knows this, right? You cannot expect to blow it out of the water over the first 30 days. Which takes me to the second point that I want to make number one, I told you that I go after performance-based campaigns, hey, I deliver you pay me if I don't I go home. Number one, but also number two, a contract is a legally binding, you know, a document that binds the client to you, but also binds you to the client. What happens if the client is a motherfucker, right? What happens if the guy's a douche, and you're bind it to that guy like legally binding to that guy for the next six months? That scares the shit out of me. So I like that one of the reasons that I do month to month, what do you guys think?
Marco: Man, I'm so proud of you. mF bomb in there, go over now because I'm learning. I'm about to drink a beer. Here's to you Hernan, not more of it. Because I totally agree. I could. Now Mohammed, hopefully as you continue in your career, you're going to run into these fortune 5000, fortune 100, fortune 500 companies who have like a whole team of lawyers, and that you're not going to be able to avoid signing a contract, you're going to have to sign the contract. So you sign the contract for the shortest amount of time. possible, right with clauses in there that the contract can be extended upon mutual agreement so that your agreement has to be there also not just the client, right, you don't just give the client the claws to renew the contract. Because like her Nan said, if the guy or the woman, if they're jerks, and you want to run away and you signed a one year contract, you're going to have ulcers by the time that contract is is over. And no amount of money is worth an ulcer and just having to deal with a crappy client. When you see the inbox, you see that mail in your inbox is on the old not again, and they're trying to contact you. They're trying to call you. They're trying to tell you what to do. They're trying to be your boss. And you should know this because we've talked about this before, you want to be impactful. That's what the pastor is all about. The video is down, you know, I posted it down toward the bottom, you want to be that you want to be in that position where you tell that client You know what, I don't need you, man, you got to go, you got to go look for somebody else, because I can't have this. It that's just going to happen. And that's extranet said, always go try to go for results based SEO. As long as you provide results, we keep going month, month to month, put that money in my account, don't ever let a month go by without that guy paying you. Because I guarantee you that's going to become a problem. You don't work unless you get paid. And don't ever try. Don't ever allow client tell you what to do. Mohammed. And as Hernan said, You've got got to have the freedom to go. But you also have to have the leeway. So that you can provide results that you have that 90-day window where you can provide results. Although if you're doing ads, Facebook, YouTube, Google Bing, you should be able to provide results within the first 30 days, blow the client out of the water, you know there have their mind spinning this guy's the greatest thing since sliced bread. And then you'll have the extra two months that it will take for the regular SEO to kick in, usually six weeks, but you don't want to pigeonhole yourself right. You don't want to stick your in a way where it you're worried about not being able to produce results in the timeframe that you have set. So anyway, Adam, I'm sure that you have something to say on this. But I totally agree with that. Totally.
Adam: Yeah, I'm not allowed to add on to that. I agree with both of you guys. And Marco, I think you hit another nail on the head there with, you know, stopping work if someone's not paying and Mohammed's already been there, I think because in the question he said he's been doing monthly, but somebody was advising him contracts, you know, maybe dig a little deeper on why they were recommending that. But yeah, I agree with everything these guys said, and, you know, it's an easy hole to get into that. I think you only have to learn so many times, you know, we've all heard a lot of horror stories, or we went through it ourselves where, you know, you did some work for someone they didn't pay, and then you know, you only have to learn that lesson, hopefully, once or twice before, you've learned that you don't do work if you're not getting fit.
Adam: A lot of times too, it's, you know, it's be up front with your clients or prospects, you know, tell people and just say, you know, I think about how to work things, because you don't want to do you like getting emails when somebody is, you know, being an ass about, you know, hey, pay me, you know, don't make it about you just say I want to make sure you know, we maintain parody that I'm providing value to you, by doing this work and providing the services, you know, and get them to agree, or just if it's an email, just state that and say, you know, you provide value to me by paying me and that's the way this works. Instead of just saying, you know, you need to pay me because work is done. You know, make it make it about them and start using some persuasion.
Does Signing Up For RYS Academy Then Outsourcing Better For Long Term Options Than Using DFY Services?
Hernan: Yep. Cool. Great question, buddy. All right. timid user is asking with signing up for the RYS Academy, then outsourcing be a better option long term, or using done for you services a time if I'm trying to get resources sooner rather than later. What would you suggest Mark? on this case? This is your baby. So I'll let you answer that.
Marco: Yeah, I mean, he, when you use our done for your services, you're you're outsourcing. Now, if by outsourcing mean, you hire someone and train that someone to do the drive stacks for you, then you're going to have to weigh the cost, right. So sign up for RYS Academy Reloaded, tons of stuff in there, we're constantly adding to it, we're constantly in the group answering questions. And then it's up to you whether you want to hire someone, either on a part-time basis, or on a full-time basis, or maybe pay up for each stack that they build. But I can't tell you that it takes our builders anywhere from four to eight hours to complete a drive stack plus g site. So that's something that that can, that's quick to do. And I'm sure that you will, as a business owner, as someone trying to scale, you have better things to do with your time like going out getting clients, making sure that that that revenues coming in that right because you don't want just money going out to all of these courses and employees and everything else that that's going to eat up the revenue, you want some of it going in your pocket. So you got it, you're going to have to weigh the costs. What what is going to be simpler for me is it going to be better for me to hire someone and have them trained because we do allow you to do that we do allow you to to let your your VA in the training, so that they can learn how to do the drive stack and the G site. But we don't allow it for someone to create a competing product. We want you to succeed, we don't want you coming back. And and then offering a product from my training, because that's what we do. So yeah. Which one would be better? That's the question to ask which one would be better for you in the end? Is it easier or better to get done for you services from us? Or to hire someone to train?
Hernan: Right? I guess it depends on the volume, right? I mean, at some point, you can either invest in somebody, hire somebody fire up the hiring funnel, or come to the mastermind, ask the guys you know, the mastermind group, hey, somebody's got like, VAs that they're letting go off, or maybe they have some hiring funnel fired up. But they're all they got like a not 10 viable candidates, but they're only hiring three. You know, that happens a lot in the mastermind. We even go out there and say hey, you know, we have all of these prospects they have been interviewed already go, please take them guys and whatnot. So we have that. So I guess it would depend in terms of volume, Hey, are you are are you ordering like five done for you services per day? right on that case, then you will be better off learning the stuff yourself and then getting somebody on your team? Right? So so my volume vs investment at that point. So it's like, why would you? Why would you get somebody in the house, if you're just like, if you want to learn the ropes and want to add another toolbox, I would definitely suggest that you sign up for RYS that kind of me. But then once you've done then maybe it will be just Hey, already done for you services, right? Because you're you only order one or two packages per month, right. But you still know how to do it. Now with that being said, learning how to do it the right way, the Marco way. Right? It takes a long time. So that's why a lot of that's you know why it's like a syndication network. It takes time. And they're super effective, but it does take time. So a lot of people are going through Syndication Academy, or RYS Academy just because of the fact that they want to learn the ropes. And then they are outsourcing because it makes sense, right? time wise, it makes sense. And it makes more sense than just like hiring a VA having somebody full time. So I think that at the end of the day, you need to do some math in there, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't prevent you from going through the training and getting signed up for the training just because of the fact that that is you know, that is something that you get added to your toolbox if that makes sense. Alright, cool.
How Would You Fill Out The Street Address Option For Coworking Spaces?
So um, let's see. Mark is saying longtime listener and customer here. What's up Mark? Regarding the street address option? Do I fill out GMB as unit number 1137 p o box 137? Or suit number 1137? Or indicate the number after the zip code after after zip code after the hyphen? Also, I know you've answered this a million times but over the years but could you recap your current recommendation BrowSEO versus private proxy best? Thanks much Bradley. Your mind. Okay, Bradley's not here. So I'm going to move on skinning. What would you suggest in this case? Marco the specific The first question in terms of how do they fill out the GMB us unit 1137 or suit 1137 or indicate the number after the zip code after you use either sweet. And then number 1137 or omit the sweet? And just number 1137? There you go.
Marco: Okay, which whichever one I've never tried unit, but I would definitely not use the hyphen because then Google will know that that's a PO Box. And you'll probably get blasted. I don't know someone else uses that I have never even tried it because I know what it means. And Google should also know what it means. So by all means, try either suite and the number or the hashtag and the number or just the number. Right.
BrowSEO Versus Private Proxy Providers
Hernan: Gotcha. That's cool. That's pretty cool. And how about brown CEO versus private proxy, best proxy type company?
Marco: you know, I'm really liking BrowSEO, we're using that in a bunch of things that we're doing. What I don't like is, is their residential proxy service has had some issues and having to go back and forth. If you guys know us like, like time is is is a is a premium, it's really hard to get everything done that we need to do in the 24 hours that a day has. And if I have to take 10, 15, 20 minutes of my time, or Bradley or whomever to contact assignment to see what's going on with those proxies. It really it's really not worth it. So what I do is I buy proxies from somewhere else. And I use those in BrowSEO but BrowSEO working fantastically well right now. I like BrowSEO, you know, but as far as private proxies, best proxies or whatever, I don't know I do get proxies for that I use within browser to from other services.
How To Rank A New GMB Listing In The 3 Pack?
Hernan: Nice. There you go. I'll teach them. All right. So pumpum. Pum is asking how do you rank GMB in the three pack? If it's a new one? What process Do you go through? Do you do our area stack? First? It was the same process like a website in the battle plan. Dude, didn't we add a section for B3? We add a section that it's about GMB. Right. Adam, can you come from that? I think we did. added a section for the Yeah, we did.
Adam: Yeah. So I would go back to if you don't have the version three in the Battle Plan, just go grab it at 17 bucks, you can click right there on the sidebar and start there.
Hernan: Right here, right here, baby, click here and go to the Battle Plan, get that mofu, and it will teach you.
What White Hat Link Building Steps Should You Take For Blogger And Influencer Outreach?
And also if I want to do white hat link building and outreach, what step would you put this in the battle plan, for example, blogger influencer outreach, I think that that would be like an ongoing thing, right, an ongoing step. So it could be like, at the top, but it also takes time. So that is something that is something that you want to do like pretty much on a monthly basis, you know, because it takes time to do outreach and white hat link building work had been? I'm doing air quotes, you cannot see me but I'm doing air quotes, right? Because I don't believe between white hat, Black Hat you're trying to manipulate the search engines. Which is fine. We're all out. Right. But what I'm saying is, you could do it, like once you validate the entity, this will further validate the fact that you are you know, for real, is that something that you will do Marcos as Well,
Gotcha. Yeah, that's, that's actually a good point. I mean, you know, we're actually deploying the services on MGYB.co. Because we would do that for clients. Remember how we came to become Semantic Mastery in the first place? Is that we're a bunch of dudes with their own clients last agency, and we decided to put together Hey, why don't we show what we're doing to our clients or for our clients, you know, to everyone, and that's how Semantic Mastery was born. And it's still like that dude, like Marco has their own stuff going on? Bradley, Chris, Adam, myself, we all have our own stuff going on. And what we do is we basically say, hey, let's, let's have press releases running for clients. Okay, we'll do a press release. Okay, so why don't we offer this as part of the package of MGYB because this stuff works, right. So it's basically like a from the trenches. So most of our money, most of the money that we make, is not teaching this stuff. You know what I'm saying? Most of the money that we make is not teaching is like actually going out there and doing shit for clients and for our own recommendation. So go ahead and grab stuff from here, here it is MGYB.
Is It Okay To Have Links When Syndicating Content Using IFTTT?
So Tushar, is it okay to have links when syndicating content using IFTTT? Can you recommend a plugin or an app that displays the full content from the feed? How would you approach if the website is not built on WordPress and the CMS doesn't provide a feed. Interestingly enough to short I don't know if you're part of Syndication Academy, brother, but that is everything that you're asking is explained on that course. So um, I guess we can go through that. But if you want a deeper response to all of the questions, just jump into Syndication Academy. And do we have a link for that Adam, somewhere that we can drop in there? I think that's still really, really, really relevant for people.
Adam: Yeah, I'm putting up there right now. Awesome.
Hernan: So um, so is it okay to have links when syndicating content using IFTTT? Yes. It depends on what you're when you're sending those links to right.
Do You Know Any Plugin Or App That Can Display The Full Content From The Feed?
Hernan: Damn. I don't remember. Are we using the are we using the full content off the feed? Do remember Marco I think that we were using snippets for ricin.
Marco: Chris dropped off, but the plugin, the RSS plugin, it sends the entire post out.
Hernan: The post, right? Yeah, so the RSS plugin. Okay, cool. And so that's been updated? By the way, I think recently, right.
How Would You Syndicate The Content Of A Non-Wordpress Website That Doesn't Provide A Feed?
Marco: And I'm sure there's other plugins out there that will do it. All you have to do is do a search on WordPress. As far as the last question, if the website isn't built on WordPress thing, do you install a subdomain. Yes. and use that as your blog. Right? You could current news and notre news notes from just whatever whatever you want, so that you can have the ability to syndicate your content and solidify that entity.
Hernan: Yeah, yeah, that has been a standard operating procedure. Dude, when you have a website that anything but WordPress, we will just install a subdomain with a WordPress website and then blog out of there and syndicate out of there. And if that if that's even true, when it comes to clients, right, when it comes to clients, they come, they can come from all over the place. Lucky for us, I think that WordPress powers up like 80% of the internet or something crazy like that, you know, it's not even funny. But if you happen to come across a client that you know, goes through, I don't know, like, something like a oops, I lost the screen. So that will go something like a I wouldn't call it like any other type of CMS, then you can go ahead and you know, install work subdomain. So basically, or so please let me grab this and put it there. Alright, cool. So let's see what we got four more minutes.
Is there a voice? Well, I mean, and I'm coming to the rescue, Bradley's weight loss has been incredible. He doesn't. He doesn't even look like he's all self. He looks even, you know, more handsome and funnier. I would say. Today, I'm just kidding. Bradley's awesome.
What Is The Best Course To Start With An SEO Agency?
Let's see what is the best course to start with an SEO agency, you have such course. And I can read about it and decide, I would say if you're starting an SEO agency, the route would be to number one, join the mastermind number to join the mastermind. And number three, join the mastermind. Like you know, in all seriousness, we have a specific path, which is called the POFU path, which is basically showing you how to start your SEO agency if you're starting out if you have a nine to five job. Or if you're you know, if you want to get it and get away from your nine to five job if you want to get land your first couple clients, we have that path where there is a lot of people on the on the mastermind that are going through that specific, you know, situation that you have right now that you're on right now you want to start providing client services to clients. So joining the mastermind would be one of the best investments that you could ever make, I would say. So.
Marco: I couldn't say enough about the mastermind. Because, you know, the Facebook group has been on fire lately. Just question after question after question. And it's great. It's great going in there and either having an answer to the question, going and looking for an answer to the question, or just simply saying, You know what, I don't know, why don't you test it and then let me know and let the rest of the group know a lot of group interaction and that this is a lot of great people in there who really know what they're doing. And so be just hats off to all of you guys in the mastermind to all of your future mastermind members, hurry up and get in there and learn how to do the do we do?
Hernan: Yeah, and you can do it by clicking on this little thing right here. Okay, so you click here, you'll be taken to the mastermind and whatnot. And then Chris was saying he wasn't the mastermind but he's going through a business divorce. Okay, get your shit together do it and joined by the mastermind. Come on, dude. Are you doing now? I totally get it I just want as many people as possible in the mastermind. The reality is that we get so many case studies and so many success stories that we are doing you guys a disservice but not by not showing you the way into the mastermind No, that's how I feel. So um, it will go and then we have started here Okay, as you're saying thank you I'm we're out of questions for the day. So if we're good, let me stop sharing my screen. And I want to thank you all of you guys for staying and hanging out with us. Thank you. There's been an awesome episode and any parting words?
Marco: Yeah, POFU or bust all you get in the middle is a big fat fuck you.
Hernan: Here you go.
Adam: I couldn't have said it better myself. Everybody have an awesome Wednesday. Hernan. Thanks for driving the boat and this has been a great Hump Day hang out.
Hernan: Oh, hell yeah. Hey, we should get rid of Bradley more often. Alright guys, thank you, everyone.