Adam: We are live! Welcome everybody the Hump Day Hangouts Episode 217, also known as the first Hump Day Hangouts of 2019. I gotta get used to saying that. I always screw it up for the first two or three weeks. Anyways, thanks for joining us. We got almost full crew here today, so I'm gonna go down the line here and say hello, do some quick introductions, and then we will get into it. Chris, you're first on my list today here. How are you doing?
Chris: Doing good. Woo-hoo to the New Year!
Adam: Are you back home or are you still up in the mountains, or where you at?
Chris: Back home at the moment. I gotta crank up and start the year productive like most people. How about you?
Adam: Yeah. I had these grand plans, you know. I took last week completely off, went almost off the grid, not completely but tried to stay away from the computer and all that jazz. Then, Sunday, I got sick. I had awesome week planned, all the stuff to do, I was gonna get right back into it, I was excited, and then it's just been like, motivation has been down here. So, it's turning into an inconvenient two-week vacation, so we'll see how it goes.
Anyways, Marco how about you? How are you doing?
Marco: I'm talking to a muted mic. What's up, man? Doing good. Starting off the new year really good, ton of projects. As you know, we got a whole bunch of awesome things coming to MGYB and coming to first and foremost our Mastermind members, and then it goes to everyone else, our followers and all other members then get access before it goes public. Membership has its privileges, as we always say.
Another thing that I'm really looking forward to is on the 14th. Guys, mark it on your calendar, Monday, January 14th, 3 p.m. Eastern, I'm doing an Entity webinar. There's a caveat: the only way that you can have access to that webinar is by donating to my charity. I'm calling it “The Endgame.” What this is all about, what other people just refuse to tell you because they want to give you information piecemeal and they want to lead you down the road but they don't want you to have all of the information. What I'm doing is, I'm giving everyone all of the information. I'm giving everybody the why these all take place. That's The Endgame. What we're after so that Google can give you all the love possible.
That's on, again, Monday, January 14th at 3:00 p.m. Eastern. It's The Endgame. The Entity Webinar. Donate. It's for a good cause.
Adam: Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. We'll have some more information about how you can do that shortly. Starting next week, we'll give out information to everybody so you can get on that. You definitely do not want to miss out on that.
Real quick, Bradley, how are you doing?
Bradley: I'm great, man. You said that you screw up for a couple weeks 2019.
Bradley: I always screw up when I'm writing a check. You know what I mean?
Bradley: That's where I always screw up and then I have to either scribble it out and initial it or void the check and write a new one. It always pisses me off. I'd do that for the first whole month really. But other than that, yeah, I'm really excited too. We're gonna hit 2019 running. We've got major big goals that were working on currently, GMB asset building and all that kind of stuff, and we're looking to really provide more and more Done-For-You services in MGYB. A lot of those are in development now, training virtual assistants in order to be able to fulfill those services for you, guys.
We just got a lot of stuff coming up. It's gonna be a really good year. As Marco said, the Mastermind members, we've kind of restructured that as well. We have clear direction this time. Finally, after all these years, I think we've got a really clear direction for new members, whether you're starting out or already got a business and you're just trying to scale it and grow it. It's just really a lot of good things that we are implementing this year. So, looking forward to it. This is the start of a big sprint for the next 12 months.
Adam: Definitely, We'll do our own break it down, do it 90 days, and then down to the week, and then day-by-day. Right? Good deal. I want to say thank you to everybody who took us up on some great offers over the holidays, whether it's MGYB sales and then those of you who decided to join the Mastermind, that's awesome. We're really glad to have you guys in there and getting through that. Really awesome that we had everyone do that. That's a great investment for 2019.
With that said, if you're new to Semantic Mastery and you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, I want to first say thanks for watching, whether you're watching us live or you're catching the replay, come check these out, whether you're in our Mastermind or you're not, you're in different groups or not, just come ask these questions, be part of the community, get your questions answered every week. You can always go to semanticmastery.com/hdquestions, like I said, if you're watching the replay, even though you post them on the page, you can come back and check out the replay, if you're traveling or whatever the deal is you can't watch us live.
If you're also wondering where to start with us, Battle Plan is the place to start. Just go to battleplan.semanticmastery.com. That'll fill you in on the rest of the details. It's repeatable processes to get you results. All right. That's the bottom line.
If you're already in digital marketing, you're in the local game, you want to really take things up, you want to be part of like-minded community, then the Mastermind is the place to be. You can find out more about that at mastermind.semanticmastery.com. Alrighty.
Let me check my notes here. I've got a little bit of a head cold that's messing with me and slowing me down here. I did wanna mention something coming up next week. For those of you who remember in … Bradley, was that October or November when the Side Hustle Toolbox came out, the Stack?
Adam: Yes. It was in the fall time frame.
Adam: Those guys have put together another one and they asked me to contribute, so I was happy to do that. Carey put together one info stack and it's more around productivity mindset, self-development kind of area, the idea of being start 2019 off to a good start. I've gotten a sneak peek at some of the stuff that's in there. It looks like some really good stuff. I'm happy with the one I made, the short course I put together for it, basically about freeing a lot of your time and how you can literally create about 115 hours out of 30 minutes over the next year. So, stuff like that.
If you're looking to really make some improvements, whether it's your business, your life, relationships, whatever it is in 2019, this is gonna be something cool that we're gonna share with everybody. Just like the last one, there's several thousands of dollars worth of products that they're putting together and then you get access to it all for just a ridiculously low price. I don't know exactly what that's gonna be it, but I believe the one we took part in was like 47 bucks.
Bradley: Yeah. It was there was over $4,000 worth of training, products and courses and stuff, and Side Hustle Toolbox is what it was called. I think with the coupon that they had during the launch week and all that, you get it for basically at 50 bucks, so it's ridiculous.
Adam: Yeah, just a big value bomb. We'll be sharing that information with everybody. It's something I talk about too, with all of these, it's like take the best, leave the rest. Any one of these things is worth $47. So, if you look through it and you think that one of them is worth it, grab it. Don't get lost in it. Pick the top ones, the ones you think are gonna help you go through it, put it to use. Don't worry about drowning in too much. Just grab it, pick the ones that are gonna work for you, put it to use it, and move forward.
Cool. All right, guys. Anything else?
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Bradley: There you go.
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Bradley: Yeah. We recently just passed 6,000 subscribers and those are organic subscribers. We appreciate you guys subscribing in the channel. Yes, definitely subscribe if you haven't already where you get notified, we chop these up Hump Day Hangouts up into individual Q&A videos and post them out too. It's funny, we looked in the dashboard-, excuse me, I was looking … I think I'm gonna pull it up right now. Stand by for a minute because I think this is crazy. I was in the Analytics the other day for our channel. Yeah, we've got 2,590 videos in our channel. That's crazy.
By the way, in case you guys didn't know, you can go to our channel youtube.com/semanticmastery and then use the channel search feature and type in your question. A lot of times you'll find an answer because we previously answered it on Hump Day Hangouts. Since we put timestamps in the video descriptions of the Hump Day Hangouts and then we also chop up the individual Q&As, a lot of the times you'll just go to you find, the channel search function will lead you directly to an answer. In case you weren't aware of that, you may wanna check that out too.
All right. If that's cool, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and jump into questions. Is everyone good?
Adam: Let's do it.
Does The MYGB Service Able To Verify GMB Listings In Germany?
Marco: As far as I know we can verify just about anywhere in the world. The European Union is a little problematic. Your best bet is to write to [email protected] and they will give you the right answers.
What Is Your Recommended Off-Page Strategy For A Small Affiliate Site Dedicated To Reviewing One Product?
Well, I don't really do much affiliate stuff anymore and when I did, I mean, I … It's kind of hard, in my opinion. Again, I'm not gonna be the best one to give you advice on affiliate stuff because I just don't do much of it. But I can tell you affiliate site for just one product, I don't think is the best idea, Sam. Only because you gain more traction over time with a site that you're gonna continually post to and update.
Unless you're gonna be continually updating this one small affiliate site, as you mentioned, about one product, if you're gonna continue to add content to it, then it would make sense to have like a syndication network because you'd be constantly adding, publishing content, reviewing products, or whatever. That's why I said … Let me back up for a minute.
Typically, some of the best affiliates that I've met, like for example, Jeff Lenny, Jeff Lenny is a really good affiliate marketer, okay, I'm not sure if you're familiar with Jeff Lenny, but he's somebody that you could model. He's got basically an authority type review site that he's built for reviewing products and such. That's typically how I've seen most people get long-term traction with affiliate sites, especially if you're just reviewing products, is to create some sort of product review site that you're gonna continually update. That's gonna keep it fresh. That's gonna help you to develop authority over time.
The problem with a single product-type site is that it's hard to build authority with that and it's also hard to continue content marketing about that one particular product, so they don't ever really gain a lot of authority. Now, depending on how competitive it is, you may be able to just throw up a one page site or whatever and rank it and do very, very well, especially with launch-jacking because it's a new product. It typically means there's not a lot of competition because the product name is a new name, or there's not a lot of competition for it yet.
But that's why I'm saying, again when I was doing launch-jacking stuff, we were able to get some really good traction with just YouTube videos and Press Releases. Press Releases were one of the big parts of it. But we did a lot of YouTube spam and Press Releases and RYS Stacks. Yeah, drive stacks work great for launch-jacking because again they're new terms usually, new search queries that you can optimize for.
But again, like I said, long-term, if you want it to rank long-term, I would recommend that you go with a branded affiliate site, something you create a brand, it could even be Sam Bailey, you know what I mean? and then just review products consistently. That's how you wind up gaining traction over time.
Again, I'm not gonna be the best person to give you advice on affiliate stuff because I just don't do it. Marco, or anybody, you guys wanna comment on that at all?
Marco: I totally agree with you. Its brand plus keyword association when it comes to a launch-jacking right, and then he wants it long-term, well, it's gonna keep it long-term if Google gives it that association long-term, if it starts to associate the brand with whatever keyword it is that he's pursuing. In this case, it's whatever product or whatever small affiliate that he's trying to do, that's what he's going to have to do.
Now, yeah, of course, RYS is going to work, but you're going to have to keep adding power to that drive stack. You can't just do a simple drive stack and expect that, although it has happened, Virginia SEO.
Marco: You can't expect to stay at the top when you have all of these people trying to rank for that and doing things every day to try to take you on. It means that you have to continue adding information and images and video and whatever it takes to stay on top. So, yes, drive stacks, press releases, we've had great success, link building, everything in conjunction.
Bradley: Yeah. Also, one thing you might wanna consider, I had a lot of success with driving traffic, especially for launch-jack using Google Ads, formerly Adwords, because it's a new product. There's a ton of SEOs that … Again, when I did some launch-jacking training for, what we used to have was, we used to have something called the Master Class and I did several launch-jacking projects sites-, campaigns, excuse me, during that training.
We did really well each time we did launch jacking, but one of the things I started to do was set up you-, excuse me, well, YouTube Ads as well, but Google Ads from search and that tends to work really well too because, again I was trying to launch jack affiliate-, excuse me, internet marketing products. So, other training, internet marketing training products, or WordPress plugins, or whatever, just other IM-type products.
You'd end up competing with a bunch of other people trying to launch-jack too and it's a time-consuming process to set up launch-jacking. I even had developed some processes for some VAs and we were targeting various IM products when they would launch. We would publish a press release and all that kind of stuff and it would work fairly well.
But like I said, it was so much easier just to set up a good, what you call the bridge page, don't ever say that to Google Ads though, but it's really a bridge page where you basically set up a landing page that you could do a review of whatever product it is you're trying to promote. Make sure it's a well-done landing page though, that is content-rich, in other words, it could have a video but also have good text on it to where it's not a blatant just affiliate-type page if you're adding value.
Google Ads, they'll suspend an ad if they think that it's a low-quality page or a thin content page that is only used to promote an affiliate link. But I've had many landing pages that were, again they're bridge pages, don't ever say that to Google, but they're bridge pages where all I was doing was promoting an affiliate offer, but I fleshed it out well. Because of that, it would stick and Google Ads would accept it and then I could drive traffic using Google Ads for really inexpensive because it's a new product name, it's a new keyword so there's not a lot of people competing.
Again, for launch-jacking, you'll get a ton of SEO, a lot of IMer's that will try to launch-jack doing various spam and SEO stuff. But very few target using Google Ads, at least in my experience a couple years ago. It's been a couple years since I've done any of this. I found it to be a lot easier and more efficient to skip all the SEO stuff and just set up Google Ads for launch-jacking.
That tended to work really, really well because it I could cut, what used to take me if I was going to develop out the launch-jacking campaign and do all the work myself, which I used to do, it would take me sometimes two days to really develop all the stuff out. I'm talking about the video spam, ordering press releases, setting up a WordPress site, or at least a page or a landing page or whatever. All that kind of stuff was a real pain in the ass to set up.
Then once I trained Vas, even then it was still a lot of work, even if I had a VA that would set up an entire campaign, a launch-jack campaign in a day, I'd still be paying that VA for a day's worth of work. Whereas I could just go into AdWords, or Google Ads now, I could go into Google Ads and set up a campaign in a matter of 20 minutes after I built the landing page and then the traffic could start within hours. Once the ad gets approved, traffic can then start immediately. Then it was just like, as soon as the launch was over or the shopping cart closed or whatever, then I could just turn the ad off and I'm done. You know what I mean? I made my money and I'm good to go.
So, that I found to be more efficient, Sam. What I'm saying is you could do a combination of both. If you're trying to have something that's gonna rank long-term, then I would recommend, like what Marco said, that you're gonna have to have something that you're gonna update with content regularly. That's why I recommend having a syndication network if you're gonna do like a review site where you're gonna review more than one product. But you can jump-start your traffic with Google Ads, at least initially, and get placed right at the top of the page. You might wanna check into that as well. Okay.
Something else I like about that, Sam. Remember, if you're driving people to a landing page, whether you do it with SEO or Google Ads, always try to build a list too. Instead of just point people from that page direct to the affiliate offer, try to put them through an opt-in gateway somehow so that you can build a list, because you got to think about it.
Also, make sure you're using remarketing, Sam. Even if you decide not to do Google Ads for this affiliate campaign, I would still make sure that you have Google Tag Manager added to your landing page or your site, depending on how you're gonna build it out and make sure that you create a remarketing list because, depending on, if it's an offer that's gonna be an evergreen product or whatever that's available for purchase beyond just the launch window, then you can build a remarketing list even if somebody doesn't opt-in.
If you put an opt-in on the bridge page to try to collect email addresses that you can market to them via email at a later date, that's great, you should still try to do that. But even if you don't get somebody to opt-in, if they land on your page, now you've cookie them and they're on a remarketing list, so you can still market to them. If you know what particular product or service it is that … They landed on that page, there's an interest in that product or service, then you could potentially even serve ads to them via remarketing for other similar type products.
My point is, you absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you should try to collect emails via opt-in if possible. But at the very least, if you're driving traffic, you should be building a remarketing list because that way you can continue to market to that visitor that would have otherwise been a lost visitor if they didn't purchase or opt-in. Does that make sense?
Anyways, definitely, that's a good idea. I'm using remarketing for everything, guys. I love it. It's great. I mean, even for local stuff that I'm doing, remarketing is so powerful, guys, and it's so inexpensive compared to cold PPC.
What Are Your Thoughts On Using Firebase Dynamic Links As Replacement To Soon-To-Be Defunct Goo.gl Shortener?
Marco looked into that several months ago or a year ago now when they first announced that Google URL shortener was going to be shutting down eventually. One of the problems with the Firebase links is they are all 302s. Is that correct, Marco?
Marco: Not necessarily.
Bradley: Okay. Can you expand on that a bit?
Marco: Yeah. You can make them 301.
Bradley: Oh, you can?
Marco: You can.
Bradley: Okay. You're short answers today, aren't you?
Marco: Yeah. Go read all of the shit that I read through to find that. I'm not giving it away.
Bradley: Okay. Well, there you go, Steve. I tried. Yeah, okay. It was my understanding because I remember Marco talking about this. I was unaware that you could make them 301. I'm not sure how you do it, Steve. I have not researched this at all because, as far as I was aware, they were 302 links and I said, “Well, that kills that.” But, yeah, just go do some more research, I suppose. I tried to give you a better answer, Steve. I'm sorry I couldn't.
Marco: Just to add a little bit to that, we're going to have our own shortener in MGYB. It should be ready by Friday. If not, sometime next week. Then, we'll do tests and make it public before Google phases out their shortener and then we'll just power up our own. That's what you should do. I mean, we're not going through Firebase, but Firebase allows you to do that, to set up your own link shortener.
Bradley: There you go. There's some benefits to doing that too because you can power up your domain that way too.
Should You Use One Schema Markup For All Pages Of A Multi-Location Business Or Should Use Specific Schema For Each City Page?
Most multi-location businesses are going to have a root domain, right, guys? They're either gonna have location pages for each individual location, which are inner pages of the root domain, or maybe perhaps subdomains with a WordPress installer, an HTML page for each location on subdomains, it's usually gonna be one or the other.
With the organizational/corporation markup, you can put that in the site header, if you're using JSON-LD markup, you can put it in the site header and that can be across, like a global site header. In other words, it goes across all pages, which in organization markup you're talking about the corporation itself, the entity, the main corporate entity, then you can list the individual locations.
But on the individual location pages, whether they're inner pages or on subdomains, however you have that worked out, those should only have local business markup for that particular location. Organization markup can go either globally across the site in the header, except for on individual location pages, or you can just put organization markup on a locations page which lists all of the locations, but then there would be a link that clicks through to the individual location landing page. Or you could have it on a Contact page or an About Us page. That's per Google's recommendations, by the way, guys. So, I would definitely look into that.
Also, there was something else, let me pull this up. I just had this up earlier today. Organization schema, Google, there we go. There's an SEMrush article right here. This is a really good one. This is where I learned, this is actually where I stumbled across the @id page stuff that I basically developed from this article. Way back in February of last year is when I had talked about the local iFrame loop in Syndication Academy. I got that idea, that idea was sparked from this article right here on SEMrush. Okay.
Essentially, if you scroll down here, you'll see there's organization. This is corporation markup here. But then there's the organization markup, which you can select which type, okay, that's how you get a bit more specific. And local business schema, okay, that's where you would go all the way down to the individual location. If you scroll down here, it talks about @id page and all that kind of stuff. This is a really good article. I'm gonna drop this on the page. I would recommend that you spend some time kind of going through here and reading this. Okay.
By the way, Scott, if you're in the Mastermind, which I think you are, Muhammad actually just had posted a very similar question in the Facebook group. I answered it and I gave some live examples there of how I have it on some of my sites. Go check that Facebook group for the Mastermind and you should find that thread and read through it. You'll see some examples of some of my own properties where I have organization markup with individual locations and all that kind of stuff. All right. Keep moving.
Is It Best To Use City+Brand Name When Building Multiple GMB Sites In The Same Geographical Area?
Okay. I'm not sure why that advice was given to you because, if I've got several assets that are in the same city, with the same city name but they may be different zip codes, I'd still use the same name for all locations because the other data points within the NAP are gonna be unique. If you're trying to build a brand, a pseudo brand anyways, then I recommend you keep all the name the same. It makes it easier.
The problem with creating, trying to create a different brand for each location is that it sucks. It's a lot of additional work, right? One of the things I've done, as you probably know, Michael, or anybody that's been through Local Lease Pro or in the Mastermind, they know I'll use a pseudo brand, like Local Tree Pros, for example, or something like that, and then I'll just name it City Tree Pros as the actual location name.
But if I've got, let's say, three assets in the same city but they're in different zip codes, then I would name it that, let's just say, Cal Pepper Tree Pros, let's use that as an example. There's only one zip code in Cal Pepper, but let's just say that I had three different locations for Cal Pepper Tree Pros. Then what I would do is I would have all three of them named Cal Pepper Tree Pros, but the physical address when the verification occurred to get the GMB verified, the physical address would be unique, the phone numbers are all gonna be unique, the web addresses are all gonna be unique. Even if the name is the same, that's perfectly okay because the other data points are unique.
I'm not sure why MGYB customer support would have said not to do that. That's something, Marco, maybe you and I should chat about with whoever gave that advice because I want to make sure that we are giving a code the standard answer to everybody. Michael, in my opinion, I would still go with the city name-, or excuse me, with just the brand name, or if you're doing city plus brand name, if that's how you're naming your GMB assets, then if you have multiple locations within the same city name, do like I mentioned, you're gonna have unique data points for the NAP other than the name, so it should be okay.
I've never had any issues with that, guys. I've got many, many, many clients as well as lead gen assets out there guys that are multi-location. They share the same name and I've never had any issues with them. The only time that there's issues if you share the same phone number or if you share the same web address. Which, again, I've seen problems where people have multiple locations and they share the home page URL of their website as the landing page URL for their GMB assets. That's wrong. That creates NAP inconsistencies. That ambiguates data and that causes problems.
If you're going to have the same name and you're going to use inner pages, or for example, again, if it was one company and they have just one domain they don't have separate domains for each location, then you should use the location page, which is a separate landing page on the domain for each location, as the website URL in the GMB listing because that makes it a unique URL per listing. Does that make sense?
That's my advice to you, Michael. Marco, do you have any suggestions on that or anything different to say?
Marco: No. It's just the way that Rob recommends it. It's something that we found that works really, really well at just getting tons of calls.
Bradley: What's that, putting the city name?
Marco: No. By putting different names within the geolocation, within the geographical area.
Bradley: Okay. Yeah. I haven't tested because I … Again, the reason why I haven't tested that is because I don't want to have to create new brands. You know what I'm saying? I wanna go with one type of pseudo brand that I can scale and that way I don't have to come up with a different brand name each time. If I've got three assets in one city, I don't wanna have three brands. Does that make sense, guys? That's why I do it that way. It's more of an efficiency thing for me because we're scaling so much. It would be very difficult to continually come up with new brand names and new logos and all that shit. It would be an enormous amount of work.
Andreas says, “How will we be invited to your webinar on the 14th?” If you donate, you'll get an email with the notification.
Marco: No. If he's on our list, he'll be notified what it is that he needs to do. If he isn't, then how you do it is you donate, then you contact [email protected] and get all the information that you need.
When Is The Release Date Of The New Version Of Jeffrey Smith's Ultimate SEO Plugin?
Bradley: Okay, there you go. Jordan's up. What's up, Jordan? He says, “Any insider news, I know you all are tight, from Jeffrey Smith on when the new version of Ultimate SEO is coming out? No. I can follow up with them now, Jordan, and find out. Let me make a note of that. Because I actually asked him about it just last month, or in December, so just last month, I asked him specifically about it because we were talking about it in a webinar somewhere and I wanted to promote it. I was asking if he had the new one out yet and he didn't, he said he was working on it though. I think it's gonna be out this month at some point, but it might be February. I'll just make a note of it. All right. I'll find out.
Greg Drebert, if you're on then you know because you're real tight with Jeffery. You can always post and let us know if when the launch date is. You look like you are live, Greg. If you can shed an insight, that would be great. If not, I'll reach out to Jeffery and find out, Jordan, and I'll ping you back either in the Syndication Academy Facebook group or next week on Hump Day Hangouts. Okay.
Jim says, “Ass.” Okay. That's quite a way to start a question. “I was in the process of typing out a bit of a long specific question and the browser refreshed or losing it all let's try again but shorter.” Yeah. By the way, if you're at the 59 mark on the clock right before the webinar starts, when it turns to the zero, the top of the hour, yeah, the page refreshes automatically for Google Event pages. So, yeah, next time type your question out in a text file or notepad file first, that way if that happens you don't lose it. Don't you hate that? Okay.
Would SM Techniques Work On Brand-Based Adult Websites?
I've never done anything in the adult industry. I know Chris has. Chris, if you're still on, do you have any insight? Is Chris still on?
Marco: No. I don't I think he and Adam dropped.
Bradley: Okay. All right. Well, Marco, can you … I've never done anything in the adult industry at all.
Marco: No. I mean, I haven't. I did but that was just way back in the day I had a client. Dude, I don't see why it wouldn't work. I mean, seriously, how we developed RYS Academy and RYS Academy Reloaded is that we found the document ranking in Google and it was full of just porn links and just porn stuff and it was ranking like crazy, the G doc. It's one of the things that sent Dr. Garry down the rabbit hole and sent me into thinking how to put it all together into one cohesive unit to push all of that power over to whatever it was that we were trying to rank.
So, if a G doc ranks for porn, there's no reason why anything else shouldn't. I'm just reasoning it out. It's not something that I'm going to try because I don't have a client to do it with. But, Jim, I mean, this is a test in the making. As far as GMB, why wouldn't you try to …? This is what my webinar is gonna be all about on Monday the 14th, why wouldn't you want or try to create the Entity for this so that it's just clear with Google what it is, what all the assets are, where they are, and they all belong to one brand and you try to that the brand plus key word association? I don't see why it would be any different. Of course, it would be filtered for adults, but I mean, that's your market anyway.
Bradley: Yeah. But actually, because I was just thinking business category for the GMB. Guys, they do have media company as a business category, so you could set up a GMB listing for that brand and label it for the GMB business category as a media company. I don't know that that would be filtered out unless it had something offensive in the title of the business name, the GMB profile name, if that makes sense.
Yeah. Sorry I can't shed more light on that. Jim, if that's a question that you would like answered more, I can always post, or with a better answer I could always ask Chris P to shed some insight, because I know he did a lot of work in the adult industry for a while. I don't know if he still does or not, but he did for quite some time, so he might be able to give you some pointers too.
Jim, you might even want to post this question in whatever group you're a member of Facebook group for Semantic Mastery. That way we could get some comments going on over there. I'm sure there's probably some others that have done adult content stuff that could probably help out too. I'm sorry I can't give you, I've got zero experience doing any marketing for adult content sites, guys.
Marco: Yeah. Too bad Jason Quinlan has gone underground or he'd be perfect to answer this. But I'm looking at the categories right now in Google and they have one for adult DVD store, adult entertainment club, adult entertainment store. So if they allow you to verify that, I mean, just looks for the category, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to verify something along those lines and then build your entity that way, see which one fits. If none of them fits, go general.
Bradley: Yeah, media company. I was just thinking, Jim, if you were dealing with online website stuff, a media company might be a good category too. Anyways check it out, post to one of the other groups, one of the groups that you're a member of and see if you can get some other people that may have that some experience, Jim, to comment.
Does Any Of The Semantic Mastery Team Member Buy The Annual OMG Machines Package?
I do not. I was a member of OMG, that's how I got introduced to Network Empire, it was back in 2012, 2013. For one year, I was in OMG. Then, I got introduced to Network Empire at the OMG live event. I think it was their first one. It might have been their second one. But Network Empire was there and that was where I kind of took the Syndication Academy, at that time we call them IFTTT SEO Academy, and then kind of learned how to really power that up.
Part of the reason I got away from OMG stuff, and I'm not talking about anybody else out there, guys, that's not what this is about, but I got away from the OMG stuff because it was mostly, at least back then, I haven't been a member for several years, but it was mostly about PBN stuff. Like how to go out and buy really powerful domains and build PBNs and not create footprints and all that kind of stuff.
That works. That did work a lot better. But we found methods that … I didn't like the whole PBN thing. I got tired of building private blog networks or building sites and trying to hide footprints. It became more and more difficult and less and less effective without going through all of the … In other words, unless you went through all of the trouble on how to find really powerful domains that were relevant and then how to set them up properly without footprints and all that kind of stuff, then they weren't as effective. If you did all those things right, then they could be really effective.
But I found become increasingly difficult. I stopped doing PBN stuff and worked more on content syndication and the kind of stuff that we that I felt like was more long-term and more sustainable, which is why I went with going more than Network Empire out. Then, we developed out our own products and our own stuff. RYS Academy being one of them and Local PR Pro and Local GMB Pro and all of these own methods that we've developed on our own that have absolutely nothing to do with PBNs. Nothing.
Guys, we rarely even talk about external link building because we don't need to do it very often. When I do now, I primarily just use Press Releases as my external link building method. My point is, personally, Jim, I wouldn't spend 5k on it. But that's just because we use our own methods, our own proprietary methods that tend to get us results without needing PBNs. Again, I don't know that that's what they're about anymore guys. I'm just telling you that that's why I got away from it.
If anybody else wants to comment on that on the page, I'm certainly open to having people comment on what their thoughts are on there, guys, but please keep it civil. We're not here to pick fights with anybody. Don't start none, won't be none. You know what I mean?
Marco: Yeah. I don't have enough information to tell them one way or the other, and I wouldn't anyway. I wouldn't say, “Yeah. Go spend 5k,” or “No, don't spend 5k.” What I will tell you is, as Bradley said, back in the day that's what was done, that's what worked, and you did it and you moved on to the next and the next. Then came Network Empire, of course, Becker we met inside one of his Masterminds.
There's a bunch of information out there. What I can tell you is that we did our own flavor. We did our own thing. If I need a PBN, I build the G site and a drive stack.
Bradley: That's it.
Marco: And I add power to the G site and the drive stack. I push all of that power the way that we teach it, Local PR Pro, Local GMB Pro, Local Lease Pro, RYS Academy Reloaded. I mean, if you're not in RYS Academy Reloaded, I don't know why you're not in there.
Bradley: Yeah. Yep, there you go. All right. Ken, yeah, there you go. He got the donation link. Greg says to Jordan, “I just talked to Jeff.” See, Greg, you're the man. Thanks, man. I knew you'd come through. You always do, Greg. Thank you. “I just talked to Jeffrey. He'll throw in five extra licenses to the 89 five-pack for Mastermind members only. That's 10 total. Okay. So, you get 10 licenses for $89 for the Ultimate SEO Plus Plugin. That's the Buy link. Then, send him an email with the special I mentioned they get the extra five licenses. We'll be testing the new beta plugin this month.”
I thought that's what Jeffrey said. I remember, like I said, just last month when I was chatting with him in Skype, he said something about January. I didn't know if that was the launch or just the beta testing, Greg. But I appreciate you chiming in, Greg, as always. Thank you. So, it's coming out soon, guys. If he's starting beta testing this month, it's coming out soon.
Entertainment Agency, there you go, there's another one. That must be another business category. “Clients are clients and money is money. It's all the same work.” Yeah, I agree, Jim. I mean, I don't know. I've never been approached to do adult stuff. I'm not sure whether I would do it or not, to be honest with you. You're right, money's money. I don't look down on it or anything like that. So, you're right, it's all the same kind of work.
Marco: Yeah. That's just another niche. You go into whatever it is. You're going to get paid, that's how I see it.
Bradley: Oh, we're almost … Look at this, guys. Post some more questions because we got 15 minutes left and we're almost out of questions. That's rare. It's okay, it's only January 2.
Jordan says, “Also, if someone is a Schema wizard and wants to make a little cash, hit me up. I have a large international travel site migrating to epicenter CMS and the dev team is installing Schema but not using JSON-LD. I need a set of eyes that gets the non JSON-LD type of schema to make recommendations.”
Yeah. Jordan, I would reach out Ryan Rodden Skeema Pro, I think skeema.pro. I think this is it. Right here. Reach out. I'm gonna post this link on event page here, Jordan. Ryan Rodden, he was a Mastermind member for quite some time. I don't know if he's still in the Mastermind or not, but he's a Schema pro. The site he set up specifically because he got tired of people asking him all the time questions of like, “Hey, would you look at my structured data?” so he set this up and just like he said, “Yeah, I'll take a look at it. Go buy it here.” He'll either generate the code for you, or he'll do a structured data overhaul, or he'll review existing structured data, and all that kind of stuff, you just have to purchase it.
But anyways, Jordan, if you've got a big site or whatever, just reach out to him, see what he can do for you. Ryan Rodden for schema work. Or I refer you, by the way, or the Semantic Mastery referred you.
Hey, where's my comment? There it is. All right.
Scott Walker, “I belong to OMG. Very nice people. But I agree with Bradley, Semantic Mastery is far, far ahead on Local GMB, Google Maps techniques.” Well, thank you, Scott. Appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, like I said, guys, I don't know whether they do much with local stuff or not, I know at least back in many years ago now, I mean, you got to think that was 2012 to '13, I think, when I was a member with them. That was shit that long damn time ago. I don't know what they're doing now, to be honest with you. So, you'd have to, Jim, decide on your own really. It's not really much I can help you with on that.
Marco: I have a question for Jordan. All right. There's three types of Schema-, or excuse me, structured data that you can go with: RDFa, micro data, or JSON-LD. Google recommends JSON-LD. Why wouldn't you go with what Google recommends? So now it's me asking a question during Hump Day.
Bradley: Wow! Now I gotta wait for the answer because there's latency, some delay.
Marco: I'd like to know why. Is it the CMS that doesn't allow for a certain type of structured data? Or is it the client? Is it you? If it's you, why? I mean, this raises a lot of questions, right? Since Google says, “We recommend JSON-LD. This is the way you should do it. This is the way you should go. This is what the bot wants. This is what the bot is coded for.” It'll understand all the other, but you I'm just wondering.
Bradley: Yeah. Well, while we're waiting to see if Jordan replies here, he goes. “That's what I want to argue. Use the freaking JSON.” I agree, Jordan.
Marco: I can give him a page where Google recommends it.
Bradley: Yeah. Do that because then you could go show the web developers and the owners of the company, say, “Here, this is Google saying that you should use JSON-LD. So, why are we doing it the other way?”
Marco: We have Quentin just dropped something in there from South Carolina.
Any Suggestions On How To Use SEO And Google Ads To Rank As One Of The First Musicians In Charleston, South Carolina?
But to use SEO and Google Ads? Well, it depends. I mean, again, that one I'd have to think through quite a bit, Quentin, because it's not something that I've done in the past. But I would probably think that you would want to just optimize for your name or your band's name, either your name or your band's name, or both, or band or group or whatever. You see, you play drums, so I'm assuming you're in a band.
My point is, I would probably optimize for that because as people get to know who you are, they'll start searching for you or your band's name. So, I would optimize for that. I mean, you could go generally to start getting some exposure. For example, I don't really do searches for music in my town so I don't really know what type of search queries people would look for, but you could start, for example, let's just walk through this. We got a couple minutes.
Go to Google Trends. That's where I would start because that's where I always start. For any type of new industry, guys, whenever I'm trying to figure out the best way to start marketing via SEO or even Google Ads at that point, I always start with Google Trends. Always, okay? Come to Google Trends. I don't know what kind of music you play because you didn't specify, but I don't know, let's just see what live music brings up.
I just put live music in. By default, it's gonna be set for United States and it's gonna show data for the past 12 months. But what I would do is I would narrow this down from maybe down to a city level. So you said Charleston, I'd start at a city level, but you might have to broaden it out a little bit. Charleston, South Carolina, right? That is what he said, right? Yeah, South, Carolina. Okay.
Then, this isn't only for the past 12 months, sometimes that won't be enough data, especially on just a city level. You might wanna pull it back to either the regional level or even to a state level, which I'll demonstrate that here in just a second. Right there. We've been talking about this for months now, guys. Ever since July 2018, the near me keywords are by far the most rapidly growing keyword type of query, a near me query.
That's where I'm starting for all my GMB assets now is I'm starting looking to do location research with near me keywords. That's where I start with my research. This just goes to show you, live music near me in just the past 12 months has had 120% increase in search interest in Charleston South Carolina. So, specifically in that city.
My point is, you could literally start optimizing for live music near me. That's a search query that could be optimized for. How do you do that? Because people ask me that, “Well, how do you optimize for near me keywords? It doesn't read naturally.” Well, for example, with GMB posts, Google My Business post, we do a lot of, and again, I just mentioned that's where I start now is always targeting near me keywords because they're driving a ton of traffic right now.
Well, put in like the first line of the GMB post was did you just search, and then we put in quotes, live music near me, question mark. Well, look no further, you just found it. Then, you can spit out some details about the venue and your business-, or, excuse me, the band. Obviously you'd want to associate live music near me with your band name. You'd wanna make sure that your band name was present and that post, as well as maybe the venue that you're performing at, that kind of stuff.
That way you're working that keyword directly into within a non spammy way. Did you just search live music near me or just search live music near me or there's multiple ways you could reword that to where it still reads? Okay. That's one way you can do. Live music Charleston, obviously, that's with the local modifier. These are just rising terms. If you take a look at the top terms, apparently, that's it.
But my point is, you can start targeting with those as more of them as a general way to get people to introduce to who you and your band are. But then what I was saying was, as your notoriety begins to increase, as you become more known in your local area and beyond, then probably I would recommend optimizing for your band's name, or your name if you're the lead or whatever. That's because people will begin to search for your name through brand and that's so you optimize for your brand name and that way you come up and you can control really the conversation via Google about your brand, if that makes sense. That's reputation marketing 101, right?
I don't know, I would start there something else. You could do like I said is back out a little bit. If you take a look at like South Carolina or 12 months we could actually bring it back, let's say, five years and that's kind of should bring you some more live music Charleston, South Carolina tonight. These are just rising terms. You look for top terms. Again, same thing, it didn't really add much. Something else you could do is, let's bring it back to 12 months, but back it out from Charleston to the whole state level. Okay.
This should bring back some different data. It looks like it didn't really. There we go. If we look at top Charleston live music, live near me live music Myrtle Beach, Greenville, South Carolina. There's just a handful of them there. Again, guys, that was just one keyword live music. I would try to figure out like, if you're in a rock band, rock music maybe, whatever type it is you could start just use Google to start trying to identify the types of queries that people might be searching for and indigent or drill into those keywords more, those search queries more.
For example, let's do this, I mean, I know it's about time, but you could go to Google and search for, like if I said, live music actually, shoot, live music and it might not, yeah, it will. If I did live music near me, something else searches related to live music near me. So you could find other types of related search queries that people in Charleston, South Carolina search for that could give you additional ideas for stuff to optimize for.
That's what I'm saying you can use trends and Google search to find all these types of related search queries and things that you can start to use in your content marketing to start getting exposure for those, for your band. Does that make sense? So, that's what I would do hopefully. Hopefully, that helped you out a little bit. Okay.
Is There Any iFrame Stacking That Can Be Done In A GMB Via The Local Lease Pro?
Go take a look at that. That's in the updates module of Local Lease Pro training. Okay. Everything you need is right there for you, Vince. Scott says, “Marco, I just donated. Great of you to do this for school kids.” Yes, it is. Thanks, Scott.
Jordan says, “Idea for band. If you have a fanbase that likes a similar band, example, Radiohead worked that angle as well. Yeah, that's true. It's true.
Jim Wells. “Marco, will I still be on the list from donating before I wasn't sure if that carried over?” It does, doesn't it, Marco?
Marco: No, it doesn't. This is a brand new webinar, brand new information, brand new donation.
Bradley: Okay. There you go, Jim.
Marco: Come on, guys, it's for a good cause. I'm not asking you to donate a million dollars five, 10 bucks, 25 bucks, whatever your heart tells you to donate. Then, yeah, listen to the information and let me know if it was worth it.
Bradley: There you go.
Marco: As for Jordan, he says that it's a huge international travel site and that it's the devs doing it. You shouldn't let the devs do the SEO Jordan, ever. They think they know until you show them, no shit, stick to coding and let me do my job, make it easier for me, and then just show that. Google recommends JSON-LD and see where you can go. I know that you're gonna get a lot of push back because that's the way they want to do it. But it's not what you want to do, what you should do according to what Google is recommending.
Bradley: There you go. Looks like we finished up right on time today, guys. Wow. That's a great way to start the year. That's rare. We appreciate everybody being here. No Mastermind webinar this week, but we will see you all next week for Hump Day Hangouts. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Marco, for hanging out.
Adam: Outstanding. Well, thank you everyone for joining us and welcome to Hump Day Hangout episdoe 216. We are live. I am on the road, a little bit of the family holiday travel with some last minute stuff so that's why I'm in the car on my phone, but also now we've got a different lineup here. We get to go in a different direction so let's start with Hernan. How's it going man?
Hernan: Hey, man. Good. I wasn't expecting to be first but good man. I just envy you a little bit that you get to live the laptop lifestyle, internet lifestyle and whatnot and get to stay home working. But I'm good. I'm really excited. I'm really excited to being here.
Adam: Yeah, so this is good. The family's inside getting a beer and I'm sitting in the car on a webinar, but I'm happy to be here. After I wrap this up I'm going to go join them, get some lunch, and I think we're going to do some hiking. We're on the California coast so yeah, I [inaudible 00:00:55]. Bradley, how you doing?
Bradley: I'm well, how are you?
Adam: I'm good. Things are good man. I don't know, yeah.
Bradley: It's been crazy because of the holiday, obviously. I took several days off for to spend with family which I hope many of you did as well. But now I'm ready to get back to it. I'm not even waiting until 2019. I feel like it's 2019 already in that we've got so much that we're working on as far as building out the GMB lead gen assets and we're really looking to scale over the next few weeks. I've got a second VA in training for doing all the build out processes and she's coming along nicely and we're going to be at the point …
My teams will be at the point where we should be able to optimize fully 10 assets per week, which is going to be awesome because … Then we're going to start training a third VA so sometime in January guys we may have that as a service available for you all as well inside of MGYB. Don't have a date for that yet but we're working on it so stay tuned.
Adam: Outstanding. Marco how you doing? Did you have a good Christmas?
Marco: What's up dude? Yeah, yeah. It was fabulous. We went and delivered Christmas presents for the kids in the charity. We delivered Christmas meals. We had their Christmas party and then between all that had time for dinner and lots of family time so it was just a great time.
Adam: Good, good, good. Chris, how about you. What were you up to?
Chris: Yeah, I was with the family here. The only disappointing thing was pretty much that on the 22 all the snow melted away and yet again another warm Christmas here. Unfortunately no white Christmas but other than that was quite good. Like to be with family and see everybody again and, yeah. It's for 2019 already. As Bradly said we're working hardly on the good stuff already.
Adam: Nice, nice. Nice. Well let's get into it real quick. I just wanted to say, if you're joining us for the first time that's amazing. Thank you for spending the day after Christmas with us, but if you're wondering where to get started with us the place we always recommend people to get started is to go to battleplan.semanticmastery.com. Get started there. Grab the battle plan for repeatable processes. That covers a ton of areas. Not going to go into it, but if you're looking for a good place to start, start there.
Then keep coming back to the Hump Day Hangouts. If you can catch them live, that's great. Get your questions in ahead of time. Catch them on YouTube, whatever works best for you. Then the next thing we tell people is if you're looking to take things up a few notches, if you want to grow your peer group, you want a network, you want the pathway to really start growing, the Mastermind is the place to do that and we wanted to take a few minutes and talk to you guys about some of the updates that we've had.
Both the way we structure the Mastermind and the way we're going to do things moving forward. Part of this wraps into some bigger stuff but you've heard us talk about the [inaudible 00:04:05] path and what we're doing with that and want to be explicit that there's two paths. Not everybody is going to take the same path achieving their [inaudible 00:04:17]. You might already be, you might have an agency. You might already have clients.
Some people don't though and they're looking for ways to do that and we really recognize that and thought that, that's really important that those people have maybe the same goal but they're going to take a different path to get there. Hernan you want to add anything to that?
Hernan: Yeah, definitely, and first off I really like this part of the year because of the fact that we get to do this which is awesome. But also, yeah, we actually found out that there's like two types of people that join [inaudible 00:04:49]. There's the type of person of the entrepreneur, the digital marketer that's just starting out. He might or might not have a 9 to 5 job and he wants to get more sales, more leads.
He wants a way to get out of that 9 to 5 and start being his own boss. That's like path A, if you would. Path B, there's a lot of people that join [inaudible 00:05:10] and the Mastermind specifically because they want … They already have a couple clients, they might have a team in place and they want more. They want to scale. Things are going well and they want things to go better.
Those are the two paths that we have developed for 2019. You get specific training depending on what's your position right now because each of those people will have different hopefuls right. The main point is that if you're wanting to get off your 9 to 5 job, be your own boss, start your own local marketing agency, start getting your first couple of clients or maybe get a proven process like local GMB and whatnot.
We have a path for you. We have training specifically to sign for you. Now if you're in the other hand where you already see something come and you can reinvest on your business, you want to grow your team now. It's the time to take you out of the equation so that you can, A, scale faster and, B, start actually reaping the rewards of that [inaudible 00:06:15] have been putting on so you can spend more time with your family.
More time doing what you love. That's another set of skills all together. The point is that we want to give you guys what you guys need. We have been developing a lot of content. Bradly, specifically, has been developing a lot of content over the past couple of years. Now is the time that we have decided to put an order to that so that depending on where you're starting right now you can start right now and get specific action points that you can take today to actually take it to where you want to be.
Adam: Yeah, definitely. Definitely, and yeah like what Hernan said we've done that and right now we're doing that over a 60 day path. Whichever one fits you the best and we've got that set up so that really it can guide you through because that's really crucial time because we want you to get the most out of it immediately. We think, depending on where you're at, it could be that the peer group is the most valuable thing but we want to make sure that if you want to grow, you can grow.
If you want to start, you can start. We know that there's people in both camps, and getting you the results you want is our goal. That's how we measure our success is by when people join the Mastermind and they experience that growth, or they get that first client. That's the most important thing. We've really structured that in a way that helps walk you through those steps so that you can get going quickly and it's not ambiguous as far as well, “Should I go here or here?”
There's no questions, it's go here, do this, and you're going to see these results.
Hernan: Yeah, and if I can add one last thing it's the fact that by this time of the year we know for sure that a lot of people want to try the Mastermind but they are on the fence. Right now you have an opportunity. A really limited opportunity because we only open this for a couple days. Is to get on the Mastermind for just one dollar. The one dollar trial. You get access to, tomorrow's going to be the Mastermind webinar so you get access to experience a full in-depth, Bradley style of webinar that's reserved only for the Mastermind.
You also get to talk to one of us for 30 minutes. You get one on one consulting for it's just one dollar. Which is pretty cool, and we do this because the reality is that most people that take us on the trial will actually stay as a member because of the value that you can experience hands on when joining the Mastermind. Not only the training, but also the coaching, the followup, and the support that we give to each and every Mastermind member.
We know that training is awesome, but what happens if you're implementing and you get stuck, or maybe you pass it on to a VA and he doesn't, she doesn't know how to do that. That's why we have the private community and I would say that there's over 10,000 dollars worth of training that you get just for joining the Mastermind. You get access to the biweekly calls, you get access to the members area.
Which is getting a revamp as well. You get access to the community where you can ask any type of question. We're really active there. If we are not active in any other Facebook group, we're really active in the Mastermind because we think and we feel that we're responsible for the success of each student that comes to us. Take it, the link is on the events page right now, so go ahead and take it.
It's a wonderful trial. It's really, really limited. We can only take so many people. During this season, so go ahead take it and come and see for yourself.
Marco: One last thing. That was great Hernan, thank you. But help us just keep doing these Hump Day Hangouts and help keep them free. Go subscribe to our channel. Go through the videos, like the videos. Please interact with the channel. That's how we're able to keep this going. I mean, where are we? I forgot which one this is today but there's a whole lot of them.
Adam: Definitely, and as far as the Mastermind and anything going on with that. Chris and Bradley, me and Hernan had a lot to say about it. I realize that, but do you guys have anything you want to chime in or anything you want people to know about it?
Bradley: Yeah, it's awesome. Come join us.
Adam: Where the cool kids are.
Bradley: Yeah, I mean. Excuse me. I've been working on, Google my business stuff for several months now, and our [inaudible 00:10:41] live which was our live event that we hosted. Our first one in October, we had about a dozen or so of those members that came to our live event that are also building out in scaling, they're lead gen asset building which is what I've been doing.
We're working as a small group to develop the processes out and it's great because if any of you guys were on the local lease pro update webinar from last week you know that, like I'm terrible using excel and things like that. It's just, it's a lot of … I'm not very good at using excel and working out how to make things more efficient.
I'm real good at finding data and figuring out how to make money from that which is what we're doing with the GMB stuff. But as far as my processes have been rather crude or bulky because I don't know how to do a lot of stuff to make it efficient which is great because the little group, the small group that I'm in with the members that are helping me to build these processes out. A lot of sharp people in that group and some of them, like Chris G. for example.
Chris Greenhow, he's our support manager, he's in the group as well as Grant. Grant's another person that's in the group that's been helping develop out these spreadsheets that do, like pull in all the data with all the stuff that I've been doing manually and I trained my virtual assistants to do manually. They're creating these tools to make stuff so much more efficient.
Where literally you just plug in a little bit of data and the spreadsheet does all the work and goes out and scrapes the data from the websites and all that and pulls it in. It's absolutely amazing what these guys have been able to do which is going to streamline our processes even more. That's the stuff that we start to reveal in the Mastermind as we get more … We refine these processes or polish these processes more.
Then that's when I start sharing them in the Mastermind, and so that's why it's beneficial to be part of it guys because we talk about bits and pieces of it on Hump Day Hangouts. We also have courses like local lease pro, for example. Which will teach you the method, but it's not going to teach you how to scale it. It's not going to teach you how to develop the processes on your own. I mean, we have another product we call outsource kingpin, which will teach you how to develop your own processes if you'd like.
Or, you could come join the Mastermind and let us develop the processes for you and we'll share with you what we've done and what we have developed which will save you a ton of time. I know people look at the price tag of the Mastermind at 297 a month and say, “Oh wow, I can't afford that.” Well how many JV Zoo products did you buy in the last month?
How many WordPress plugins did you buy? How many video creation software tools did you buy in the last month? You stop buying all this stuff that probably really isn't making you any money and you can start to apply it to something that can make you money and Mastermind itself won't make you money. You have to apply what you learn but that's what we try to do is provide our members with as much training and the resources possible to where it's the least amount of work as possible.
That's part of what's going to be coming a lot, over the next several months in the Mastermind as we really refine these processes for developing or scaling our lead gen asset building. We're going to be sharing a lot of that in the Mastermind. Again, guys, I know 2019 is right around the corner, make it a good investment in yourself and I would highly encourage you to stop buying all the shit that doesn't really add to your bottom line.
If anything buying products and tools, and stuff like that actually detracts from your overall business because it's a distraction. It takes money out of your pocket. It takes time to learn how to use or to apply. Which, let's be honest, how many of you actually use everything that you buy? I certainly don't so my point is I would reconsider what your goals are for 2019 and really think about it and if you want to do something that can really generate some business or some revenue for your business, excuse me, I would consider getting into local lead gen and asset building right now while the opportunity is hot.
The Mastermind is a really good place to be if you want to do that. Anybody else want to comment on it?
Adam: Yeah, just to say, one, I totally agree with what Bradly said and also the community. Building that network. Something we've helped our Mastermind members do is to get together in small groups so that you can really dive deep into these areas that you're interested in and the power in that is incredible as well as the larger network of the Mastermind as well.
Like Hernan said, the link is there. The link is below if you want to join. Give it, the trial, it's only available for a few days. We have a very limited number, but we will make sure that we will hop on. Get you an onboarding call. Get you pointed in the right direction and make sure that this is the best place it can be for you.
Bradley: Alright, if you guys are cool, I'm going to jump in.
Adam: Real quick, though. I did want to mention, Bradley, before we get started. We're in the middle now of the MGYB [inaudible 00:15:42] services holiday sale. You guys don't want to miss out on that. I think Hernan hopefully took care of it for me and put a link up on that as well. Thank you, thank you. We've got some kickass sales going on. Check that out. That's going to end, though, on New Years Eve. Don't let that go by too long.
I think there's a question on it, right, the very first question so I'll just let us answer that and that's a part of it but, yeah, go check those out.
Bradley: Yeah, I was going to read this question and have you answer it because I'm not sure what our … I don't run the store, guys. Just so you know, because I know I get private messages occasionally about stuff from the store and I always just say, “Just contact support,” because I don't know. I don't run the store guys so I apologize for that but Jason, what's up Jason? Long time member.
Is There A Limit To The Number Of Verified GMBs One Can Buy At The Said 50% Discount Before December 31, 2018?
Adam: Yeah, as far as I know it shouldn't be a problem. Jason go ahead, and if anybody else wants to take advantage we do have a limit. We can't let you hold onto those indefinitely, but if you're ever … If you're thinking it might be more than a month or something, just contact us. [email protected] and hit us up and we'll make sure it's clear before so that there's no issues. But, yeah, Jason that shouldn't be a problem.
Marco: Yeah, well what we don't want is people waiting 90 days, or 6 months, or whatever before they submit the information. But Jason, yes, of course. Go buy and then later on when you have all of your data and everything together send us the information. Just please, if you think it's going to take four, maybe five, six weeks, then you have to let us know.
That's something we have to know so we know what to expect. By all means, you don't have to go in, buy them, and submit all the information right away.
Should You Keep Advertising Video Ads On A Separate Channel To Avoid Having 5-Second Views On Your Main Channel?
Okay, so first of all, I've never heard of that being an issue or causing an issue. In fact, one of my primary methods for ranking YouTube videos in Google search is by setting up YouTube ads or Google ads for YouTube. It's a great, great way for ranking local videos because you can literally buy engagement signals from Google. Google says you're not allowed to buy views, but you can buy views from Google and that's on the ads platform.
One of the ways, and I've talked about this many, many times on Hump Day Hangouts guys. It's been a trick up my sleeve for a long time for ranking local videos or videos with local keywords, right, for local keywords. The reason why is because you can go in and set up an in stream ad, those are the ads that play before as a preroll ad. They play before the video that the viewer intended to watch. Your ad can play in front of that. You guys are all familiar with that.
What you can do with a local video is, and I do this all the time guys, is I create my, or set my geographic targeting very specifically. It could be a radius from a specific point or I could set zip codes or city names, or county names, or state, or whatever I want. But typically what I do is whatever the service area is for the business. If it's a service area business, I will set that geographic targeting. It might be a 30 mile radius or it might be two counties or something like that. First I set my geographic targeting and then I set my topic targeting or what they call audience targeting.
If you can find an in market audience or a life event audience, and guys this is all in YouTube ads. When you're setting up an ad it prompts you to select your audiences and your locations and all that stuff. But from audience targeting, if you can find an in market audience category that fits your niche or the product or service that you're trying to promote, then use that or a life event audience. That also works really well. You can do topic targeting if you can't find a good life event or in market audience, you can do topic targeting.
Although, that's not as … It doesn't typically work as well. You can also do keyword targeting. Keyword targeting is done, is very different in YouTube than just doing search ads or whatever but the whole reason why I'm telling you all this is because I've been using local or ranking local videos using YouTube ads for a long time because I'm buying clicks from … Geo-targeted clicks. Excuse me, I'm buying geo-targeted clicks and if I get my topic or audience targeting, my audience targeting right, then those people especially using in market or life event audiences as I just mentioned.
Those people are known to Google to be in the market or actively searching recently for those types of products and/or services. A click from the location that you specify, which would be a local IP click or view, I should say. Plus from somebody that is known to Google to be in market for that particular product or service, then that is a heavily weighted view. In other words that view is going to count a hell of a lot more than a view from somebody for states away that has been just perusing funny cat videos all day. Does that make sense?
My point is those types of views are very, very weighted and whether somebody clicks to skip the ad or not, it doesn't matter. It still registers as a view and so all of the videos that I rank for local clients as well as for video production companies and such, I have YouTube ads running for every single one of them, guys. Every single one of them and again the views are typically not very much as Greg's mentioning here. Like five seconds or so, well that's not necessarily true because most of the videos that I use, or the local videos that I'm doing this method with are one minute long videos.
They're roughly a minute and what it shows is that the engagement rate is typically if you can find a good in market or life event audience, I'm seeing an average of 40% view rate. In other words, people will watch up to roughly 25 – 30 seconds of the ad, of the video, before they click off. That just goes to show you, if you can set your geographic targeting and your audience targeting correctly then that's really all you need. Here's the thing guys, like if you're setting targeting for topic targeting, for example, then that would be … Like let's just say it's for roofing services.
Okay, which by the way, that's an in market audience. It's a great audience for that if you're doing any type of roofing contractor, lead gen for roofing contractors or anything like that. This is a great strategy guys, but if you can set your geographic targeting and inset the in market audience to somebody, only people that have been recently researching roofing services and looking for roofing contractors, okay. Then what happens is, it doesn't matter what video that searcher is no YouTube looking for they could be just on there searching for stupid cat videos.
But because Google, first of all they're geographically located in the area that we set, and second of all Google knows that they have recently been searching for roofing contractors, then my video could play in front of that stupid cat video for roofing contractors even though it's not, it's an unrelated topic. Google already knows that searcher, that YouTube user has been in market for that and they fit the criteria we set within our targeting.
That view, even if they click off it within five seconds, it still registers as a view and it's a heavily weighted view because Google knows who that person is and what their profile was about, right. They're likely to be interested in that content so again, I have never heard of that five second thing being a problem because all of the ads that I run, they just go through my standard YouTube channel that I have connected to a ton of syndication networks and all that stuff.
But, like I said, standard operating procedure for me is any time I'm trying to rank a local video in Google search, I also set up ads and again with proper targeting sometimes those … I'm only doing it for SEO purposes. Let's be very clear. I set up the ads to help rank the video, however with proper targeting some of those clicks you will get, or views you will get from the ads, will actually convert. You'll get some clicks, not many, so you're trying to get the view count up. You will get some clicks and then out of those clicks occasionally, again, if you can get your targeting very, very narrow. Very tight, so that it's super relevant some of those clicks will end up converting too.
Again, I've not heard of this five second thing. I've not experienced that. I use the same method that I just method, again, for a standard operating procedure guys. Every single time I go to rank a video for a local client now or for lead gen or anything, I push it through my channel with all of my syndication networks attached and then I set up a YouTube ad. That's how most of my videos stay ranked is because I set up a dollar a day targeting, or budget, excuse me. A dollar a day budget and after a couple of weeks I actually start backing my budget down and my maximum cost per view bid until I get down to about two to three cents per view and then I have my budget down to 50 cents per day, guys.
That turns out to be 15 dollars a month to maintain a video on the first page of Google using the ads, Google ads network. Again, Greg, if you want to follow Justin Sardi's training. I know he's great at YouTube ad stuff, and that's perfectly fine. I actually recommend him for YouTube ads training, but when it comes to SEO stuff I don't see it being any issue and I've not experienced that as a problem. That was a good question though. I don't assume anybody else wants to comment on that. Do you?
Hernan: Go it.
Is There A Benefit Of Creating And Building RYS Stacks In GSuite?
For example, using a G-Suite account with your own custom domain, email, and all of that stuff, you're paying Google and so Google now has a billing details associated with that account. It just ads more … 30. It ads more validity, I guess you could say. It validates the entity further for Google and so, in my opinion, yeah. Now, I don't recommend you guys go out and set up G-Suite accounts for each individual lead gen asset you have because that could get rather expensive. But for setting up RYS stacks, I know having a G-Suite account doing it under that could help, but Marco, what do you say?
Marco: I always tell people to pay Google as part of the process. It's in the black book. It's in the done for you users guide. That's what's recommended. Go pay Google and you get rewarded. Now, whether directly, indirectly, how ever it is that it happens, Google stops seeing you as a leech and starts seeing you as a paying client. This is just my theory so that when time comes for the bot to look through everything, the first thing that it's going to look at is are we going to be messing with a customer, with a paying client, or are we going to be messing with a leech.
I think they'd rather mess with a leech than a paying client, push comes to shove, and then they might come back and start looking at other things. It's not something that I know for sure because I don't work for Google but it's something that we've seen time after time. That the more that we get into Google, the more we pay Google ads, YouTube ads, inside Google, extra drive space. They have your credit card on file. They see everything and so that seems to work really well. You don't even have to create that for us. We can create the Google stack with the Gmail account and you can just make yourself whatever your G-Suite account is the owner of that drive stack.
I mean, you don't even have to go through all that.
Bradley: To clarify that for Jeff, what Marco was saying was for example, you could purchase a done for you drive stack from us and then once you get it delivered, once we deliver it to you, then you could have your G-Suite account. You add your G-Suite account as a manager and then assign ownership to it. I'm thinking of GMB stuff but it's pretty much the same process. You would give editing permissions to your G-Suite account and then you could assign ownership to that as well so that your G-Suite account takes ownership of it and it's not the free Google account anymore at that point.
How Would You Use A Google Stack For An ECommerce Site?
It's not something that you have to provide on the front end, is what we're saying. Okay. Alright, so thanks Marco. Armand, it's been a while since you've posted. What's up Armand. He says, “What's up you awesome ass dudes. Love you guys. We should all get married. Anyway, question: how would you use a Google stack for an eCommerce site?” That's a good question for Marco. I can't answer it because I just don't do eComm, and number two is, “Are Google stacks as effective as they were years ago?” I can answer that one but first Marco start with the eCommerce. Can you provide any insight?
Marco: Yeah, absolutely. People shouldn't get boxed in. We talk a lot about local but that's because most of our people are oriented towards local marketing anyway but we always say this. You're local is only limited by what you want your local to be. If you want your local to be the city or the neighborhood that you're in, that's your local. But what if you make it your city? What if you make it the county or the state, or the US? I don't know if you're in the US Armand.
I'm just guessing that you are, or in the case of eCommerce what if you make it global? The only thing that changes is the way that we create relationships and that's something that's taught inside our YS academy. I'm not going to teach it here. Now, it's not ready yet, but we have something awesome coming up for RYS academy reloaded. It should be ready in the next two, maybe three months, and it's specifically targeted for those people who want to make their local whatever it is that they want it to be. That's what it's going to be geared towards.
If you want to make it your neighborhood, the city, county, state, nation, global. You're going to be able to do it and that's what we're going in the lab and we're going to be working on that.
Are Google Stacks As Effective As They Were Years Ago?
Bradley: You go. Question two, “Are Google stacks as effective as they were years ago?” Yeah, they are Armand. I mean, you got … Here's the thing. There still every bit as effective, it's just there's different signals now that Google's looking for than they were when we first, when Marco really first discovered this. Here, what I'm saying is guys a lot has changed over the last … How long's RYS been out? Three years now?
Marco: In August it'll be four years.
Bradley: Yeah, so it's been just over three years now and so a lot has changed in three years as far as what moves the needle and that kind of stuff. The combination of what Google's looking at overall has changed. We know that drive stack still helped to move the needle. Is it the be all, end all? No, of course not. In some cases it may be, but again those results are not typical. Like, for example, I showed the Virginia SEO, the first drive stack that I ever built which isn't even up to our standards today and it's still outranking other SEO, Virginia SEO companies.
That one is one of those types where I haven't done anything to it and it just ranked and it just has stayed ranked since May of 2015. We're talking 3.5 years now that things been ranked which is crazy, and I haven't done anything to it. But that's, again, results aren't typical. In some cases you will see that but in other cases it's going to require more stuff, additional signals. A lot of variables go into whether or not the drive stack's going to be enough to produce the results you want. Competitiveness, what is your competition.
How many other index pages are there covering, targeting those keywords that you're targeting. All that kind of stuff goes into it. Are they as powerful, as effective as they used to be? Yes. But, you still have to add other things into them and there's a lot … For example, we know that proximity right now is a huge thing which three years ago when RYS was … When Marco first developed the RYS method, that wasn't nearly as important as it is right now.
If you're doing local, I know you're talking about eCommerce, but if you were doing local RYS stacks can be very, very effective to push additional local relevancy as well as topical relevancy and in your case, as an eCommerce site you can use drive stacks to push topical relevancy into, say, category pages for whatever it is that you're selling. I know that there's a lot that can be done with an RYS stack even to eCommerce. Like I said, I don't do eCommerce so I can't really provide any insight on that but yes Google stacks are just as effective as they were a few years ago.
But it's not, it's just only part of the overall pie that you need in order to rank something, in my opinion. Marco, comment on that one as well please?
Marco: Yeah, absolutely. One of the main things that you need with this is entity, right. But people talk about entities and they don't really know what's what. On January 14th at 3:00 pm eastern as part of our charity drive again. Anyone who donates to the charity will get into that webinar and they will get access to the previous two webinars, and Armand if you didn't watch the two previous webinars and if you don't know anything about entities. If you don't have the black book and if you don't have the done for you users guide, and even if you do I suggest that you watch the previous two webinars.
I suggest that you, when we mail our list, that you donate and that you attend the webinar because this is exactly what I'll be getting into. I'll be getting into the differences on whether you're working local or if you're working … Well, not if you're working local. How the entity needs to be treated differently depending on what your local is.
Bradley: That's it. Okay, next is Lorie. What's up Lorie? I haven't seen her in a while. She was a former Mastermind member. She ended up resigning from the Mastermind, or left the Mastermind recently because she took on a job that she'd been looking for, for a long time. Which was really, really awesome. Congratulations on that Lorie. We definitely miss you in the Mastermind, but thanks for stopping by. You're always welcome to come ask questions here. You know that.
Are Your Syndication Networks Set Up So That Every New Post Syndicates Through Them?
Shane's up. He says, “Are your syndication networks set up so that every new post syndicates through them?” Yes Shane. That's the whole point. Yes, absolutely. If you provide the RSS feed, we will connect everything for you so that every time you post a blog post it will syndicate through the network. That's what they're intention is. That's what they're intended to do is syndication networks to syndicate content. It's for content amplification. Okay, that's exactly what they do.
Is It Okay To Set One Of Your Syndication Networks, RYS Stacks & Press Release Orders In Motion Before Launching The HTTPS Version Of The Site?
Besides, remember, if it's with WordPress typically you use a plugin like easy SSL or something like that. There's several different types of plugins or HTTPS redirection's another one of them, which will automatically add, will set up a redirect so anybody that's visiting the HTTP version will be forced onto the HTTPS version. Okay, that's normal stuff. There's plugins that do that. You can do that via HT access. If you're using cloud flare you can use what they call page rules.
There's a number of ways to do that and so it really doesn't matter. Even if you had HTTP as the URL in your drive stack, for example, once you go HTTPS everything will be forced onto the HTTPS anyways so it's not that big of a deal. But what I would recommend is that you place your order with the HTTPS version of your URL. Just make sure that the RSS feed is indeed working on HTTPS and has at least one post because an RSS feed will be rejected by IFTTT unless it has an item contained in it.
You need to make sure that, that's available first or else we can't set up your network for you. Okay, but again, I would recommend just going ahead and ordering everything with the HTTPS version of the URL because you're in the process of switching over anyways and so once you do everything will be the way that you want it and it won't have to be edited. Which is a bunch of unnecessary work. Does that make sense?
Is It Okay To Build Citations For The HTTPS Version Even Though It Hasn't Launched Yet?
Bradley: Okay. “Also, is it okay to start building citations?” Yes, for the HTTPS version. Once again, because that's what you're going to be switching to so, yes, absolutely. Go ahead and build citations with the HTTPS version of the URL.
Marco: A word of warning to Shane since you're switching over and I don't know who's doing it for you and I don't know how. When they say that they've done it, go check every version of the non-HTTPS version of the website just to make sure that it was done correctly because sometimes they'll leave one version out and it won't redirect and then everything that we just talked about, you won't get the benefit because, of course, it's not redirecting over to HTTPS.
As long as it's redirected correctly, as long as everything has the correct 301's in place. Whether it's HT access, whatever it is that you're using to redirect, as long as that's right then everything will transfer over to the SSL.
Bradley: Yeah. Yeah, and keep in mind whenever you do that switch, I'm not … I don't know how to, like I'm not a server nerd guys and I don't know CSS and all that stuff. I know that whenever I've done switching from non SSL over to SSL, I've had themes break. I've had style sheets or CSS, or whatever break, and so the sites look all funky and all that kind of stuff. Typically what I do is if I'm switching an existing site … Now, when I build a new site which is rare because I'm just building GMB websites now.
But when I do build a WordPress site, I install WordPress and immediately switch everything to HTTPS and then from that point I start building the site out. But for existing sites what I've always done is just gone to Upwork and found somebody … Go to Upwork and look for SSL implementation or HTTPS or something like that, or WordPress support. CSS, anything, you can look for a number of different keywords or whatever. But find somebody that can go in and clean up any messes that are made from switching over from HTTP to HTTPS because, again, unless you're familiar with all that stuff … I'm not and I don't want to take the time to learn how to do it.
I always just go to Upwork and I usually find somebody that's overseas somewhere and I usually just say, “Look, I'll pay you 50 bucks to go through this WordPress site and get everything.” Usually that's way more, like, and that's because I just offer it. But I know that I've had, in the past, when I didn't have … When I didn't have as much, I didn't have as many resources, I would have people bid on it and I'd get people to say, “Yeah, I'll do it for 20 bucks.”
20 bucks to go through the site and clean up any messes from switching over. That's a no brainer. I mean, again, it would take me hours to research that stuff to figure out what needed to be done or I could just pay somebody 20 bucks or even 50 bucks and it's done and it's done well, and I don't have to worry about it. Shane, that's what I would recommend unless you know what you're doing.
Marco: Just so I can really quick to that. Listen, most people who are teaching verification methods are methods that don't usually work.
Bradley: They don't stick.
Marco: No, I mean, you just can't get it or yeah, it doesn't stick. It gets banned right away. Or, those who do know how to verify are keeping it so close to their chest that there's no amount of money available that you could offer for us to teach you how to do it. There's just no way because so many people can do it. Actually so few people can do it correctly, so I mean that's just my two cents on it. Sorry, it's not something that we're going to teach. It's not being taught and it will never be taught as long as I'm a member of Symantic mastery.
Bradley: Now, because here's the thing guys. You teach something like that, how to do that, and what happens? It gets abused and it gets shut down, and that's the problem. Why would anybody want like … You kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. Why would you want to do that? I mean, think about that guys. It's not that we're trying to keep a strangle hold on GMB verifications. It's not that at all, but when you put that kind of information out publicly it's just like everything else we teach, or anybody teaches.
Not just us but you put a method out there and it ends up getting abused and spammed to death. Which is fine, I get it. That's what we do, but eventually when it's been circulated too much, it ends up getting terminated and it gets overused and it becomes less effective or flat out stops working all together. That's part of the reason why. It seems to me awfully silly to be teaching how to do that because it just gets saturated and gets terminated or shut down by Google.
I would say, no. We're never going to teach that. Alright, guys, looks we are done early. We don't have any other questions, so unless you guys want to like hang out and sing show tunes and shit I think I'm going to wrap it up.
Hernan: I'm just putting the link to Mar and everyone else for that matter, who want to come and test drive the Mastermind. Tomorrow we have a Mastermind webinar, so it will be a good idea if you want to join. If you want to check it out, and also you will be prompt to … Let me show my camera. You will be prompt to complete a form so that we can cover the call. Your 30 minute call with one of the symantic master team.
That's going to be pretty awesome. The link it's under live event over there so go ahead and check it out.
Will A Google Sites' Ability Become Diluted If You Assign A Domain Name To It?
Bradley: Yup. Another question just came in from Wayne. Wayne, what's up buddy. Merry Christmas to you Wayne, by the way. Wayne says, “Curious if you think a Google site's ability is diluted if you give it a domain name.” A custom domain versus keeping it on the Google URL. No, because if … And I've shown this in the Mastermind and I can't assume you've seen all of them though. But, yeah, Google site when you map a custom domain to it, both sites are still live and available online.
In other words, you can still view the site on the Google domain as well as view it on your own custom domain. If you look, the canonical on both versions of it, the canonical is set to the custom domain. You're still benefiting from the Google site, the Google domain because, again, the site is live on both locations. You're just canonicalizing it and Google does this automatically.
It canonicalizes it to the custom domain, so essentially you're just basically pushing the relevancy from the Google domain to it anyways. But both pages will remain indexible, does that make sense? Marco, do you want to comment on that?
Marco: Yeah, this is the wonderful thing about the limitations of Google and Google sites because there's no real, like the CMS is very limited by the content management system and in order for you to continue using, whether it's a mapped domain or the G-Site, you need access to that content management system. Google keeps it live because that's the only way that you can manage the content is through Google CMS.
That's why they add … Wayne, think about it. It's perfect. It canonicalizes up to your domain so you … I don't want to get too deep into what you can do but think of all the opportunities that you have if you have a live Google URL canonicalize up to your own custom domain.
Bradley: That's right.
Marco: Think about that.
Bradley: Think about, I'm not going to reveal it, but just guys think about logically if you've got a Google site and the same exact site on a custom domain and the Google site is canonicalized to the custom domain. Which of those should be your link targets? Not going to answer that, I want you guys to think about it and answer it. You should all know the answer to that. You should use one of those as your link target, your primary link target when you're doing external link building and there's a reason for that.
Anyways, again, that's one of those things. Jim says, “Do you guys not offer a power up on the stacks like it was on the prior site?” Well, yes and no. Jim we, right now we don't have [Dedius' 00:47:45] service in MGYB yet. It's coming, so you can reach out to him directly if needed. Just reach out to him in one of our Facebook groups and you can go direct to him. Eventually we're going to have him in the marketplace.
But he's not there right now. But also, as I've talked about a lot recently, press releases are my primary link building method now. It's not because Deddi is not amazing, he is, but I have access to a shit ton of press releases and I use them all the time and I love press releases for link building and we do offer that in MGYB right now and there's … I think there's probably specials going on right now for the Christmas sale that we have so I would check that out also.
Hernan: Yup, they're on the page over there so I put the link so we have a page with all of the deals that we're running right now for MGYB.
Marco: We have direct access to Deddia because we have him in our slack chat with the rest of the VA's because they're constantly going back and forth. Since he does all of our indexing, by the way, RYS academy reload. That's how we get everything to index as much as possible because Deddia does it. We have direct access to him. Jim, just write to us, [email protected] and we'll take care of you.
Bradley: There you go. Yeah, that's why we need to get that page up sooner than later. Alright guys, I'm wrapping it up. I've got work to do so we'll see you all next week. By the way Mastermind webinar tomorrow guys, if you want to join the Mastermind one dollar trial, now would be a good time so we're going to have a good webinar tomorrow. Thanks everybody for hanging out. We'll see you all tomorrow.
Adam: All right. Welcome everybody to Hump Day Hangouts Episode 215. Man, I'm feeling weird because I had to sit super low to fit the special Christmas headgear in range here. But I'm looking at everyone else and everyone else looks as goofy as me, so I'm pretty happy.
Bradley: Hey, who are you calling goofy?
Marco: What? What?
Adam: To share the goofiness, sorry, I meant the holiday cheeriness, let's start off by saying hi to everybody. Chris, how are you doing, man?
Chris: Doing good here. I'm in the mountains in Austria, so unfortunately, no costume for me this week. But maybe next week.
Adam: See, we can't even see you. You could have been wearing a Yeti outfit or something, we'd have no idea.
Chris: Yeah. Like I'm just in a feature story.
Bradley: Or you could have been buck naked. For that reason, I'm glad your webcam's off.
Adam: That's how we lost all of our viewers. Hernan, how is it going, man? How's the middle of summer for you?
Hernan: It's good, man. Yeah. We have a lot of these decoration, with snows and shit. Here, it's like 40 degrees Celsius or something, it's nuts. But anyways, I'm really, we're really excited for this week, for next week, what we have coming up, so really good to be here.
Adam: Marco, how are you doing, man?
Hernan: What's up, man? I'm feeling a little frosty today. Just like before, so big head, little hat, paying an homage to Frosty the Snowman.
Adam: That is awesome. Sorry, it cracks me up. It's a great hat. Bradley, how are you doing?
Bradley: I'm well, man. I got my elf hat on, with my elf ears. It's got to be a hat for a kid because it's squeezing the shit out of my head. I feel like I'm a little light-headed and dizzy from it.
Adam: That's good. If Bradley starts getting angry towards the end of Hump Day Hangouts, you know what's going on, it's the hat.
Bradley: No. I'm gonna lose the hat here when I go off camera.
Adam: Good deal. Well, we got a few announcements for everybody and then as always we're going to jump into answering your questions for you. Real quick though, I want to say, if you're new to Semantic Mastery, first of all, thanks for watching, whether you're watching us live right now or if you're watching a replay on YouTube, that's awesome.
If you're looking for the place where you wanna get started with Semantic Mastery, because it's a question that comes up a lot, grab the Battle Plan. All you have to do is go to Battleplan.semanticmastery.com. That's gonna give you the repeatable results. It covers a really wide range of various stuff, like ranking new sites, what to do with press releases, how to do keyword research. It's not just the guide, we've packed a lot into there. We've got links to tons of training videos, all sorts of good stuff.
Also, if you're saying “Okay. Well, that's great. What's next?”, come join the Masterminds. If you're really looking to take things up several levels, if you're looking to form that network, that peer group, if you really wanna take your local digital marketing to the next level, come join the Mastermind. You can find out more about that at Mastermind.semanticmastery.com.
Speaking of the Mastermind, I think we've got a couple things coming up. Hernan, I think there's something going on next week, right?
Hernan: Yeah. Next week we're gonna announce, we're gonna have a big announcement, so that's gonna be pretty awesome. So, stay tuned. If you are being on the fence about joining the Mastermind, I'm not gonna go deep into that today, but if you are being on the fence, we're gonna have great news for you. We have a bunch of stuff going up for the Mastermind, for the current Mastermind members and the new Mastermind members, like the POFU paths. We have a new members area. We have a bunch of stuff coming up, bi-weekly calls that have been going up for quite a bit, and Bradley always over deliver. Stay tuned, next week's gonna be pretty amazing. If you are being on the fence to join the Symantec Mastery Mastermind, just be here next week because it's gonna be pretty awesome.
Bradley: Yeah. Just quickly, I wanna add to that. We're calling it POFU paths or pathways, which is anybody that's been through or has joined the Toastmasters International. They recently had updated kind of like their course that you go through, their courses that you go through in order to become a distinguished Toastmaster, any one of the levels in between starting off in that. Essentially, it's a training program.
What was cool about it was they updated it from like old paper books to an online portal. The old paper method was you had specific books you had to go through and you could kind of jump around at which speeches you wanna do within the books, but you pretty much had to go in a specific order. It was very limited. But then when they rolled out the pathways program last year it basically allowed people to go in. It's kind of do like a survey or questionnaire they fill out about themselves and then it would kind of direct them and say, “Okay. Look, we've got all these different courses that you can take and we can direct you into this way or that way.”
I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was really refreshing as a member of Toastmaster. I thought that it would be good for … I talked to my partner's about it, and Adam was in Toastmasters as well, and we thought that that would be a much better way to introduce people to Semantic Mastery, especially in the Mastermind. Because we've been told over and over again it's like a fire hose of information, when people come in they get overwhelmed, they don't know where to start. So, we wanted to kind of make it easier to really give people specific paths, whether you're a startup or if you're in the growth phase, in other words, you're already making money but you're trying to grow your business.
That's really what we're gonna be announcing next week. Hernan's put a lot of work into developing this out, guys. I highly recommend you come check it out.
That said, there's one other thing I do wanna mention. I know we did the Local Lease Pro update webinar, I think Adam is gonna mention something about that because that replay is gonna be taken down today and all the bonuses go away as well. So, if you haven't watched that, I would highly recommend that you go watch that now.
One of the things that I was talking about through that webinar was all the processes that go into developing out these assets is in a way that we can scale it. Because it's one thing to know how to build out a GMB asset on your own, that's all well and good, but if it takes four or five hours to do that, how many can you really do yourself is my point. If you really wanna scale this business and this opportunity while it exists, while it lasts, because we don't know how long it will, then you should really be focused on scaling.
That's something that I'm covering extensively in the Mastermind, is the scaling options. I've been working with a small group from our POFU Live event that we did earlier this year and we're developing out processes to scale so we can build many, many assets per week and have personnel or outsource that do it for us. That's what we've been developing, is the processes and the training to develop or outsource this. In other words, to train our outsources to do the processes that we have set up and build everything to our specifications.
That's what we've been sharing in the Mastermind. Again, if you guys are looking to take advantage of the opportunity that it is present right now, while it still exists, then I would highly recommend you come join the Mastermind where you're gonna be able to scale so much quicker than if you try to figure all this stuff out on your own. Adam?
Adam: Awesome. Yeah. Real quick, I never do this, can I share my screen?
Bradley: Yeah, please. I'll lock it on you.
Adam: All right. Let me do this. All right. If you aren't in the Facebook group, first of all come, join our Facebook group. But the free Copy & Paste Local Lead Gen Funnel for local businesses was the winner this month of the poll we put in there. We got that put together for you. Hernan created the best practices as well as some kind of insights. I'm not gonna go deep into it. You can go here, it's free. That's it. It's free. Go get it. Check it out. Hernan, like I said, recorded some great information for that. You can import it to your account. Hernan even got some ideas on what you can do if you're not a user of one of the page builders. I'll put the link to that on the page. Like I said, that's awesome. It was most requested one. Go grab it.
Next up, like Bradley said, the replay from Monday is down. Like we said, it was only 48 hours, but if you wanna take advantage of this, along with the other people who have so far, you can get Local Lease Pro, you can get all the stuff Bradley was talking about, and you can still get all the bonuses, but that's going away real quick after Hump Day Hangouts. Right? The bonuses include the one-on-one private call with Bradley, the free verified GMB listing, and free client prospecting with the Video Lead-gen system. All right. This is a pretty amazing one. We tried to make it so that literally it's like you're getting this for free. If you buy this, the bonuses are worth more than the product that's already discounted. I'll put that link up there as well.
If you've already got Local Lease Pro and you're looking to take advantage of some of the MGYB sales, we got the crazy Christmas sales up already. I'll put that link on. I'm not gonna go into detail, you can go through here and see we got some great deals, like the Syndication Networks is at 40% off, Done For You RYS Stacks 30% off, Press Releases, as well as verifications and a bunch of other stuff. Cruise through. We've got a couple of weeks, but this won't last forever either. It's coming down at the end of the year, right before New Year's.
Bradley: Yeah. I would say, guys, go through those, the specials for Christmas through our MGYB because there's a lot of really good deals there. For example, the Press Releases is $20 off, so you can get the Press Releases, the same that we use for our business. I talk about how powerful they are all the time. You can even create your own organization page, which is incredibly powerful. It's a great link hub, really. It's a semantic hub that you can point as a link target. It uses a link target. It's fabulous. It's got iFrames in it and all that stuff. You can get those for $79 with that $20 off coupon, which is fabulous. If I were you, I'd buy several of them. If you don't have your own subscription to a Press Release distribution service, come buy them from MGYB. They're really, really good and right now they're inexpensive so I would take advantage of that.
Anything else, guys, or should I get into questions?
Adam: I think we're good to go.
Bradley: Okay. Let's do it.
Hernan: Let's go.
Does Publishing The Same GMB Post To Multiple Locations Of A Brand Hurt Rankings?
Marco: Twenty locations, single brand, the same GMB post to all 20?
Bradley: Yeah, I'd try to vary it in some way.
Marco: I would, too. There's no point in that. It's the same thing. Google is getting the same thing multiple times. You have to think how will that affect what I'm trying to do, which is trigger the algorithm in a positive manner. All you're doing is feeding it the same information. Now if you know anything about the algorithm, it's looking for fresh unique relevant content that's updated on a regular basis, and 20 of the same posts for 20 different locations, does not meet that standard.
That's what I always try to look at. Guys, I am a fan of publishing as much new data as I can. Just feeding the bots new data as much as possible over and over and over again all day every day, that's what I do. It works for me. You could try it and see how Google reacts. Yeah. I don't know if that would put the 20 locations at risk. I don't know what would happen because it's not something that I do, sorry.
Bradley: Yeah, me neither. I mean, because I always try to vary things, Jordan. I've said that, for years I've been saying that, I don't even build, use the same content for lead gen assets, at least I hadn't been when I was building WordPress sites. For GMB assets, it's slightly different. But again, I would recommend that you would vary the posts, for example. Even if you use the same post text, I would still have unique images, even if it's the same image but geo tagged for each individual location that you would be pushing out to, or something like that. I'm sure there's some way that you could automate that. I mean, I would do that, at least have it that way.
Something else is, we have the auto poster, the GMB Auto Poster, which now allows Spintax, which is pretty cool, and also post-siloing, and stuff like that. That might be something that you could use to where you could set up posting to all individual 20 locations. You go in and set up the post, but have it go out with the Spintax and everything. It would set out a different variation to each location, in other words. Right? That's something else.
By the way, guys, I'm working with a provider right now that's going to … We're gonna be able to provide you guys in our store, at MGYB, super spun GMB post articles so that you can just basically purchase one and it would be full of tokens, that you can swap the tokens out with your own keywords, GMB profile, name, phone number, target URLs, all that kind of stuff.
That'll be all easily interchange using find-and-replace function and then you'll be able to just copy-and-paste that into the GMB Auto Poster and set up Auto Republish on your posts. Every single time it goes to republish a post again, it's gonna select a new version, a new unspun version of that so that the text is always going to be unique. That's gonna be huge, guys, because it's gonna save you so much time and it's gonna be very inexpensive. Very inexpensive. That's something that's coming.
That's something that, Jordan, I think would probably work for what you're trying to do and that would at least vary it and make it unique, each post would be unique, somewhat unique anyways. That's a good question, though.
What Are The Most Important Things To Do For Keyword Research In 2019?
That's really good question. Most important things to do for keyword research in 2019? Well, considering I'm focusing solely on local stuff right now, I'm not doing any affiliate marketing, I'm not doing any real national stuff, well, not yet, I've got a big project coming up, but right now everything I'm working on is primarily just local stuff. So, for me, keyword discovery through GMB Insights is huge.
I've been saying this now for weeks, if not months, but today, I was actually developing out some more keywords going through Insights from many of my lead gen assets and looking at the keywords that are bringing the traffic to the GMB listing, the Maps listing, and what I'm finding is just an enormous amount of near me search queries. So. I'm targeting more and more near me stuff than anything right now and that's because it was speaking directly to the mobile algorithm at time and it's just working like crazy.
I mean, guys, I'm seeing as much as 50 and even 60% of the engagement coming to my GMB listings now through near me keywords. It's insane. It's crazy, some of the search queries that are bringing variations of some of the keywords and the way that people … and all that kind of data is new. Those are new type of queries, a lot of them. In other words, there's not a lot of historical data on that stuff, is my point.
I think using GMB Insights in search console, if you're doing more, maybe not necessarily local stuff, but search console. If you have search console, go do keyword discovery from there and you'll see what your site is getting impressions from. I think that's really, really important, guys, to see what Google thinks about your site and when it gives it impressions, puts it in the search results.
Search console is really good data for that, guys, because you can find queries or terms that were used that your site got exposure for that you didn't even know you have potential to get traffic from. Right? Just because you get exposure doesn't mean that you're gonna get traffic, because you could be on page nine. So, in search console, if you select the option to see the position, the average position, then it'll show you the impressions, the number of clicks, and then average position.
Like I said, if you look and you see a lot of impressions but no clicks, if you check the average position, it typically means because you're on page two or three or anywhere beyond that. Right? Because remember, where do you hide a dead body? On page two of Google, right? Anything really off of page one is very, very rarely gonna get any clicks. But if you're getting impressions, that means Google is already aware that your site is relevant to that query.
Those are really good opportunities, in my opinion, to optimize and find new sources of traffic that you would have otherwise overlooked. So, for me, besides the tried-and-true using Google Ads for discovery using alpha beta campaign structure, I love that, it still works really, really well, but then using search console in GMB Insights.
As far as tools, I still don't use any tools other than the ones that I've always mentioned, which is I use Google Trends as my starting point at all times and then I use Power Suggest Pro. I use the Google Keyword Planner sometimes because I do a lot of AdWords stuff, but I really just look at that to see if there's any traffic data from the keywords that I've extracted from Google Trends and from Power Suggest Pro. But whether or not it shows traffic or not, I don't care because if it's in Google Trends and/or suggest I already know there's traffic on those keywords. It just might mean that people aren't bidding on those keywords and that's why there's no AdWords traffic or Adwords Keyword Planner data, in other words.
That's my answer. Anybody else wanna comment on that?
Marco: Yeah. My thing is, once I start going in Google My Business, I'm just a total fan of being inside Local GMB Pro. It just makes things so simple. The thing is that the data that you get in Insights is really hyper-targeted, meaning that it goes by unique user. I'll give you Mario's Cab as an example because they're still getting tons of traffic even though we stopped posting for them for lack of payment. But I would have never thought to post with the keyword to just “taxi” or just “cab,” or “a cab.” That listing got people to come through by just looking for the keyword “taxi” or “cab.”
Who would think that you could rank for that or that you could get people to come through to their listing for that? If you have a TLD, that's impossible, or nearly impossible. The money that you'd have to spend to get to that level where you're getting traffic for “taxi” is incredible, but through GMB, we were able to. I just saw last month, 20 people came through using the word “taxi.”
Bradley: Yeah. I'm pulling it up right now, that's why I paused my screen.
Marco: Okay. Twenty came through using the word “cab.” Google tells you most popular queries for your business by unique users, so these are people who actually found the listing through that. It's phenomenal.
Bradley: Look at this. Look at this, guys. I haven't done any work for this listing in three months now maybe and it's still benefiting from the work that I did, which was really only about the initial optimization and I had a VA that was posting to it regularly, and then when payment stopped coming in we canceled or suspended the service. But it's still benefiting. Look, in just the last month, look at the number of engagements that it's gotten. The keywords that brought it, “taxi near me” and “cab companies near me.” What is that talking about, the “near me” keywords, guys? Remember, I just said that. Look at the number one search query, “taxi near me,” “cab company near me,” number two. “Cab near me,” “cabs near me.”
If we scroll through, I know these are saying less than 10, but you're still gonna see a lot of different “near me” or “in my area,” “close to me,” “close by.” Those are variations of “near me” search queries and it's huge. Like Marco said, “taxi.” “Taxi” brought 20 engagements in the last month. Does that make sense? For just the word “taxi,” just the word “cab.”
Again, and I've said this many, many times, mainly dealing in local from for my entire career, I have always targeted the keywords with a local modifier, especially with a real short tail keyword, like “taxi,” for example, or “plumber,” or “roofer,” or something like that. I would always optimize for the local modifier, which would be the city name appended to the keyword.
But now, because of what had just occurred in July with the mobile index first, it's no longer necessary, and we're proving it through Insights, which is actual data from Google, from engagements that occurred on our GMB assets, or the assets that we manage.
The point is, we're seeing that we're getting traffic from just short single phrase keywords in this case and we're getting direct traffic for it, of which I would have never attempted to optimize for. Or at least I would have known that it would be a dogfight to rank for in the traditional old-school SEO methods. But because so much shifted in July of this year, that's what opened up all this opportunity. Again, that's why my keyword research methods really haven't changed, except that I'm doing much more discovery through Google search console and GMB Insights now than I ever had before.
Should You Be Worried About Leaving Footprints For Google If You Keep All Your SEO Project Folders In Google Drive?
Hey, look, I know everybody has their own varying opinions on this. I think even Marco now keeps his data in Box or something else, not in Drive. But my entire business is in Drive, it always has been. I don't worry about that shit. I think Google's got much bigger fish to fry. If, at some point, I get where I feel like I'm nervous about it, I may change that, but for now, it's specifically for me, it's because it's an ease of use for me and my team. It's so much easier for me to manage everything within Drive and have all of my team members have access to it so we can collaborate real-time.
I know that there are other services to do it, but I don't want yet another fucking service that I've got to be logged into all the time. I've got too many as it is. I personally like Google apps and everything about Google. I've built my entire business on Google stuff. My entire business is in Google Drive and I'm okay with that. Again, everybody, to each their own. I'm not saying my way is right or wrong. Some of you might say I'm crazy, but I've been getting by just fine and I'm gonna continue to do so until someone proves to me that I need to change it.
Ken, I don't worry about it, but I know some people do. If you're a tin foil hat kind of guy, put another layer on and move your stuff outside of Drive. What do you think, Marco?
Marco: It's not so much that I worry about, it's just that I don't want Google having the data, that's all, and they go into Drive. I plan, the stuff that I'm doing is going to bring the type of revenue that's going to make Google pay attention. So if they do, I don't want them seeing shit anywhere. I'm not gonna make it easier for them to hit me. They've been known to single out people, target people and just wipe them out. So if that happens, it's not going to be because they got the information from me. They might get it from a competitor, they might get it from someone who dislikes me for whatever reason, but they're not gonna get it from me.
Bradley: There you go. Anybody else wanna comment on that?
Hernan: Yeah. I've been using Google Drive for quite a while now. Again, I'm not that worried about Google. Yeah. Maybe I should be a little bit more worried about that, I don't know.
Bradley: Yeah. Well, you're a paid traffic guy, not so much in this yoga anymore, so you don't have much to worry about, I suppose.
Adam: Or Hernan doing the paid traffic stuff just to fool Google.
Bradley: Yeah. It's a mask. It's a distraction, right? A decoy.
Adam: A ruse.
Bradley: Okay. Will, I actually took the time to read through your question several times earlier because I had to try to really interpret what it was specifically that you were asking. I've got a couple things I wanna mention. I actually wrote up some notes for this question because there's a couple things. First of all, Will was at POFU Live. Will, if you're not in the Mastermind, which I thought you were, this was a type of question that's more suited for the Mastermind because it's long.
When we do the Mastermind webinar is we get into as deep a question as somebody wants to get into, there's really no limit to that. If somebody wants to come on, and we could spend two hours with one individual's question, if that's what it takes, that's fine, we're happy to do so. But in public, Hump Day Hang out setting like this, in order to be courteous of others, a long question like this would take me 10 minutes to read through it. Honestly, this is not really the type of format for this type of a question.
If you're not in the Mastermind, I'm gonna be giving you some shit right now, Will, you should be. Because you were at the POFU Live event anyways, so you should be in the Mastermind where you can ask these kind of questions. But if you're not, that's okay. I know you're in the POFU group because you were at the live event. We do have a Slack channel dedicated to the POFU attendees and you're more than welcome to jump in there and ask as many questions as you want, we'll answer them in almost real-time.
Again, if you're not in Mastermind, join it already, Will. If you don't, for whatever reason, then use the POFU Live group for extended questions such as this. Now that said, I'm not gonna read through his questions, guys. You guys can read. Those of you that are watching this on the replay, it's been on the screen long enough, hopefully, you've read it. If you're just listening to it, well, tough shit, sorry.
How Does AnswerConnect Handle Calls For Service Providers As Part Of Local Lead Gen?
I haven't done that yet because I've been using Answer Connect for that. I've been using AnswerConnect since 2012 and there's really no reason for me to change what I've got currently. Now going forward, I may give CallRail's answering service a try. Okay. Excuse me. AnswerConnect does take call, it's a 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. There's no time off for them. Okay.
All of the lead gen properties that I have that route through a call center, the call center will answer the phone whenever the caller calls. The reason I do that specifically is because a lot of my contractors, most of the lead gen stuff that I do is for contractors and most of my contractors are working contractors. In other words, they're out in the field performing work duties, whatever that may be, and so a lot of the times are too busy to answer the phone.
I learned a long time ago that when I routed lead gen calls direct to the contractors, unless they had a receptionist that was going to be live and answering the phone during normal work hours, then I was missing a lot of calls, I wasn't getting paid for a lot of calls that I was generating because they weren't answering the phone. So, I lost a lot of money. I left a lot of money on the table when I was routing calls direct to the contractors, unless they had their own receptionist, which was rare, because usually it was the owner of the business that would take the phone call direct on a cell phone.
Number two, if you've been doing any sort of lead gen work or client work for any amount of time, you already know how much spam calls come through. When you send phone calls direct to a client, the more exposure you get them online the more spam calls they're going to receive. That's another benefit of having an answering service, a call center will screen the calls so that no spam or notifications get to the contractor, the service provider.
That's a huge sales benefit, guys, because when you're talking to a service provider that's gonna be buying leads from you, if you can say, “Hey, the only time you're gonna get any lead information is when they're qualified pre-screened leads. They're qualified calls that have been pre-screened by our call center so you're not gonna get hammered with spam calls. You're not gonna get shitty unqualified messages.” Does that make sense?
Anyways, from that, yes, my answering service, Answerconnect.com. You can go check them out. I've been using them for years. They have a script that they read and ask the caller of specific information. I provide that script. For example, let's say that it's Pepper Tree Services, is the lead gen asset. They would answer “Pepper Tree Services, how may I help you?” Caller would say whatever and you can go through a whole role-playing thing and that's basically what it is. “Do you provide free estimates?” “Yes, we do. We provide tree removal, tree trimming, blah blah blah blah. May I take your name, your phone number, the address of your property, when's the best time to call, what's the service you're needing?”
That's the type of thing, just a very quick survey that they ask them and to qualify the call, get the pertinent information, and then from there, that lead, as soon as the call is ended, and by the way, the answering service just says, “Yeah. We're gonna have our estimator call you back as soon as possible,” or shortly, something like that. “Thank you for your information. Our estimator will call you momentarily.” Okay.
As soon as the phone call ends, then the dispatch center or the AnswerConnect, they forward the call information, the lead info, the contact information to the contractor via email and text, and I get a copy of it via email for my records. Okay. So, that is the billable call right there. There is no duration. The only time that there's … That was number two, I think that was another part of your question.
But also, in some cases, and I mentioned this, there is a live call transfer at the end of the contact information being collected by the call screener, the AnswerConnect. Then, at the end of that, in some cases, I have the call which is live routed or live transferred to the actual contractor at that point, but not until all of the contact information has been secured and taken by the answering service. Right? Because if the contractor doesn't answer, that way we still have that lead information, and that's still a billable call for me. Does that make sense?
Again, the moment the call is done it's mailed out, it's emailed out and texted to the contractor, and I get an email copy of it. Like I said, sometimes there's live transfers, it just depends on the arrangement I have with the contractor.
As for monetizing, I have several types of arrangements, but the most are, because you were asking about that, everybody has to have an ROI, yes. But what I do, it's several different types of arrangements, lease location, which is the simplest for a flat monthly fee. That's where the contractor does not pay per lead. For example, maybe it's a GMB asset or a couple of assets or whatever that I'm gonna rent out to them and it'll be, say, $300, $350 a month, something like that.
Let's say just one asset with an answering service, it's $300 a month. It will cost me roughly $50 a month for an answering service for one location. Depending on call volume, that varies, but let's just say roughly 50. That means I'm making $250. I don't charge on a per call basis for that type of arrangement. Okay. I have several of those out there. Okay. That's what Local Lease Pro is all about.
For pay per lead arrangements, the call is billable as soon as AnswerConnect has collected lead info. In other words, AnswerConnect screens the calls and only the calls that result in full info collected are deemed billable. Right? When I say full info, a lot of times a customer or a prospect, a caller doesn't wanna leave their physical address. Yet, we asked that. Many times we get it, but a lot of the times or sometimes people say no, they're not comfortable giving out their address until they've talked and spoken with the estimator. That still counts as a billable lead because the vast majority of the contact information has been filled out or collected. Right? That's the answer to number one.
How Do You Expand The Number Of Keywords On A GMB For Greater Coverage?
The reason I say that, I'm not trying to be a dick, but the reason I'm saying that is because I can't tell you how many times I've tried to do research about keywords and found that there was no data or little data or poor data or very low numbers and things like that, but then I've set up campaigns and just knocked it right the hell out of the park with trafficking inversions. I've had that occur via Adwords, like Google Ads, but also just from SEO campaigns.
My point is, even though you may have seen the data and you've applied some formula or another, every specific location, and I have found, will produce it unique results. Right? There's gonna be commonalities among all locations, yes, but what I found is, I could have a tree service Google Ads campaign set up in one location and the same campaign basically set up in another city. There's a set of keywords that are gonna be typical or normal, but then I see a lot of traffic coming in from different sets of keywords for each location, if that makes sense.
What I'm saying is, regardless of what your data shows, without you actually setting up a test campaign and pulling actual real data in, then you're really flying blind. All you can do is make an educated guess. You're speculating, right? So, I would recommend, one of the best ways, guys, to find research is to determine which types of keywords are gonna be bringing traffic, and which types of leads you can get, what conversions are gonna be like, is throw some money at Google Ads, set up some Google Ads campaigns.
You can do it with lead gen stuff, guys. Invest some money to discover what your industry is really about, where the traffic-producing keywords are within your specific vertical. Guys, spending some money on AdWords is a great investment in that case because you'll find out which keywords are bringing the clicks. You can actually start to dial in your copy and your landing pages and everything that way so that any SEO that you apply you already know is going to generate results because you've got the data from AdWords that proves it and you've been able to start dialing the campaign in on that side.
Because, remember, yes, you're spending money on Google Ads, guys, but how much time does it take to get significant results from SEO? I mean, obviously, you can do some Local GMB Pro stuff and some Local Lease Pro stuff and get some quick results, initially. But I'm talking about, if you want to build a really good campaign, like what he's talking about with the type of leads that he wants to get, then I would recommend that you would be doing content marketing and developing out real good content strategy. Just start capturing all those different types of keywords that could bring traffic. But that's gonna take time. You can get some initial results immediately with Google Adwords, which will also give you the best data that you can use to develop or design your SEO campaigns around.
Okay. Those are great questions. Again, Will, next time save this length of a question for either the Mastermind or in the POFU Live group, and that's only to be courteous to everybody else. Does anybody else wanna comment on that before I move on?
Hernan: I think that was perfect, Bradley.
Would You Recommend Using A CoWorking Space Address For A GMB Profile?
Bradley: Okay. I need a drink after that one. Olena's up. “Following the manual approach of getting an address for my GMB profile. Beside a postal box …” By the way, I had a PO box that I had secured a few weeks ago and it was gonna run out of … Before I was buying them up from our own services really. I had gotten notification that I hadn't gone and actually claimed the box, and got the number signed and picked up the keys and all that. So, I went to go do that just yesterday, as a matter of fact, and I had filled out the street addressing form and all that.
I took it to the post office and they basically denied it. They said that they wouldn't honor the street address option at that particular location. Which I thought was bullshit. I've said many, many times, guys, that sometimes you have to educate the postal workers about that street address option. Well, this was the first time that … I've had to educate many of them that said, “I'm not sure that we do that,” and I'd say, “Yes, you do. I got this from the USPS website, this form. Every one of you do it. It's United States Postal Service. This is not an independent Postal Service. You know what I mean? It's the National United States Postal Service. You all take this form.”
Well, this one today denied it, or yesterday, I guess it was, denied it. So, I walked out of there mad and I was actually able to get a refund on my PO box, anyways. I shouldn't have even spent the time to drive out there because we have our own service now and it would have saved me a ton of time. But since I had already paid for it, I thought I would do it. So just so you know that PO box stuff, it does work. There's no doubt. I've got them all over Northern Virginia. But there are some locations that just flat out, they're gonna tell you no, because they don't understand it or they haven't been educated on it, and they won't let you do it. So, just keep that in mind.
“I've spoken to them about receiving verification from Google and they allow companies to operate and work from its premise.” Yep. “Being that Google is aware of this co-working spaces address since they have their own verified GMB profile, do you see any issues with getting another GMB profile with the same address?” No, because here's the thing, in this case, you literally could go to the co-working space to meet potential clients or clients. Right? That's what the whole co-working spaces were for. It's for people, it's like flexible office space, right?
Let's say you work from home, so your home isn't conducive to entertaining or prospecting or pitching prospects, right? You know what I mean? I wouldn't want potential prospects coming to my house or clients come to my house either. These co-working spaces, that's what they're designed for. So, I don't think it would be an issue.
Now I haven't actually set one up there, but I don't think it would be an issue because that's a perfectly valid reason to have a co-working space or shared office space. Right? Because you work from home. But when you need to host an event or meet with clients, then you go to your shared office space. To me, that's perfectly logical. I don't think it would be any problem.
Anybody see any problems with that?
Hernan: I think that's pretty cool. I haven't thought about that, but that makes sense.
Marco: No. I don't see any problem because she's gonna have her own business name and she's gonna have a different phone number. The only thing that's going to be the same is the address and, hopefully, they'll give you like a suite or some type of identifier that will make the address a little bit different-
Bradley: Like a box number or a suite here.
Marco: Yeah, from everybody else's. That's perfectly okay. Think of an office building and how many different companies can share an office building, right? Google doesn't see any problem with that. The co-working space idea, to me, in that same vein in that you're in an office space, you're renting office space just like if you were with all other companies, except this would be just part-time and just to do what it is that you need to do. I see it perfectly okay.
Can You Place iFrames Into A JPEG Image Metadata Area?
Marco: It would just get the code in there. But he actually got me thinking. Scott, because I think this is Scott, right? Scott Rogers, here's the deal, nothing beats a try but I fail. He wants to have an iFrame stack within that JPEG image. Do that, but then drop some schema before the closing tag in your iFrame. Add some schema in there and then run it through Google's structured data testing tool. Right? You're gonna have to upload the image somewhere so that Google can go in and-
Bradley: Oh, my gosh, I see what you're saying.
Marco: -look for structured data. If Google reads it, then you just got an iFrame stack within that image. Wouldn't it be good if you could just duplicate that multiple times within that comment section. Different iFrame. I'm thinking ID loop to loop.
Bradley: Hey, do you realize we're on Hump Day Hangouts right now, Marco?
Bradley: Aren't you usually the one pulling the reins back on me?
Marco: No, he got me thinking. Sorry.
Bradley: But, guys, did you just hear what he just said? I don't know whether that will work or not, but that's the next test, right? Guys, take an image. Even if you're not trying to stack an iFrame in the metadata, just create json-ld markup, like local business markup, for example, drop it in the comment section, the metadata of the JPEG image, save it, upload it. Then, go to the structured data testing tool with the image file URL, and stick that in there and test it. Read it and see if it will pull back the structured data.
I've never even thought of that and again I haven't tested it. It might not work, it might not read it at all. But that's an interesting test. I'd like to test that now.
Marco: Me too, which is why he got me thinking. Man, he just got the juices flowing. I said the only way to test that is doing it that way, to see if Google will read the code.
Can An iFrame Be Tweeted Out?
Bradley: Yeah, that's interesting. That's a new test. Okay, cool. “Can an iFrame be tweeted out somehow?” Well, when you tweet out a YouTube video, that's basically a tweeted iFrame. I don't know if you can iFrame other stuff because Twitter just converts the YouTube URL into an embed, which is an iFrame. Marco, can you tweet out on iFrame?
Marco: I think that Twitter turns it into an image, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't done Twitter stuff in a long time, guys. We haven't needed to look for that extra power. Twitter stuff? I'm out of tune with Twitter right now.
Bradley: Yeah. I was never in tune with Twitter. I just never cared, honestly. I know you can get a lot of power on it but …
Hernan: Yeah. We used to do some nasty shit with Twitter, like pinging, t.co Google shortener, and then we will ping it with something like ScrapeBox and a Google shortener, where we show up a bunch of hits coming from Twitter, like simulating virality. That was fun, but yeah, it's been a while.
Bradley: Yeah. You could take a tweet with Google short URL and then have it retweeted and it would look like hits to that URL.
Hernan: Twitter, anything that you throw at Twitter will become a t.co shortener.
Bradley: Yeah. You could mimic a post going viral or a video going viral just buying retweet gigs from Fiverr. It was cool. It worked really well for video SEO. It probably still does, I haven't done it in a while.
How Much Power Do You Lose If You Don’t Put The Map Embed On Every Website Page?
As a matter of fact, if you take a look … I'm gonna talk about this from a couple of … I'm sure Marco has some input on this too. But when it comes to structured data, I know that's not specifically what you're asking about, but when it comes to structured data, like local business markup or organization markup, that kind of stuff, it's not necessary to put that site wide. Right? Specifically in Google's structured data guide, it talks about how it really only needs to be on a Locations page, About Us page or Contact Us page. That's it. It doesn't have to be anywhere else on the site. We typically put it site wide in the HTML header. But we don't have to. It can be according, to Google's own recommended best practices guide, it can be on the Locations, About Us, or Contact Us page. Right?
When it comes to a map, I totally get that, if a client doesn't want the map site wide in the footer or in the sidebar or something like that, then just put it on the Contact page, About Us page, or Locations page. That's perfectly fine since you have an @id page that you have the map embedded into. That's where you do all your nasty stuff. You don't need to worry about having it on every page on your site.
That's my take on it. I know you can get more link equity or link flow flowing to a map that's on the home page in the sidebar and the footer than you could if it was on an inner page, obviously. Right? Because that's where most of the juice flows to a domain, is the root. But again, I wouldn't worry about it since you have an @id page. Obviously, you've got to always consider what the client wants.
Marco, what do you say?
Marco: Yeah. If you follow RYS training, especially the black book, we recommend the home page just for that reason. Most of the link equity, most of … everything goes into the homepage and then Google branches out from there. That's why we recommend it on the home page. You can make my map look really good, I mean, with custom pin and all that stuff, so that the client doesn't really complain about what it does aesthetically. I mean, if you're scrolling down, I don't know what the concern is with my map in the footer. You can always control it with Widget Logic or some other type of plug-in where the map will display so that doesn't display site-wide. But I do like it on the home page, Jordan. Maybe you can sneak an accordion in there.
Marco: Some type of accordion so that is hidden within the accordion. But I want it either on the sidebar or in the footer, or both.
Bradley: What about instead of an embed just a contextual link in the footer or something that says “see us on Google Maps” or something, then even put a keyword as the link and just linking to it? That's still not as good as embed, I get that, but then you'd still have a home page link pushing equity to it.
Bradley: Then, I got you. Jordan, there you go. According to Marco, yeah, an accordion menu, like an expandable menu, that would be good. You could put it behind something, like somebody clicks on it and it expands and there it is, but that way it's still on the home page, it's still benefiting from the root into the home page. There you go. All right.
Can You Use CoWorking Space Address For A Local Lead Gen GMB Page?
Yeah. Well, the problem with doing those type of businesses is, remember, a point-of-sale business or a storefront where the customer comes to the business location to transact business. Like an accountant, for example, for the most part, people go to the accounting office. I mean, my accountant actually comes to my home. But again, for the most part, if you're going to be doing it that way, storefront type businesses, the problem arises when a user, a Google user does a search like “accountant near me” or “CPA near me” and then they find your listing, and what happens if they don't call? They just go to the office. People do that still, right? People still do that. They still find something near me and then go to that location without calling or anything.
What are they gonna do? They show up at a co-working space, shared office space, like we were just talking about earlier, and the accountant is not there because you're just leasing that asset and directing leads to wherever the accountant's real office is. So, that would piss users off and it's eventually going to end up either with negative reviews on your GMB listing for that or it's going to get reported as the business doesn't actually physically exist there. Then, Google will terminate it for spam. That's the problem with trying to do lead gen stuff with storefront businesses, guys. Again, you're welcome to try it, but I'm telling you the potential problems that you're gonna run into, that are very likely to happen.
I would be pissed off if I did a search something near me, found a store supposedly, and I go to drive to that location or walk or whatever, I get to that location to find out that it was a spammed GMB listing. I'd be pissed. I'm an SEO, you know what I mean? I would even understand why they did it, but I'd still be mad that they wasted my time. Does that make sense? It would either end up, me, I would leave a shitty review or it would be reported. You know what I mean? I'm not saying I would report, I don't typically do that.
But my point is, somebody would and that could end up being a problem. If you end up with negative reviews on your Maps listing, it's gonna affect your GMB asset, even if it doesn't get reported. But if you end up doing it clients and you rebrand it for them, then that's technically a negative, it's negative reflection on their business. That could be a problem for you too.
I don't recommend doing it for storefront businesses, guys. In that case, organic rankings and Google Ads, those are my two favorite sources for that type. Okay. Do you guys have any comments on that or should I move on? We're almost done anyways, I think.
Does Using Call Rail Phone Tracking For A Client’s GMB Account Create Problems With NAP Consistency?
If all you're doing is trying to track calls through the Google My business listing, then you could have both phone numbers in there, because Google will be aware of both numbers. So, your NAP from your citations would still be built to the customers number, but you could have the GMB listing displaying your tracking number as long as the customer's phone number is still in the GMB dashboard. Because you can add more than one number, is what I'm saying, but you would make the primary number your tracking number.
Now I haven't tested that in quite some time. I don't know if that's going to cause problems with existing citations out there, NAP inconsistency. My point is Google … The reason why I'm telling you this is because I know for a fact, and I've talked on the phone with Google My Business support reps about this, I have a client that has a physical location that is displayed incorrectly in Google Maps. When I edit the info, it's a storefront business, it's a preschool, when I edit the info for the store, the location of the business, it's always correct, it's been added or inputted correctly to GMB, yet GMB or Google My Business Google Maps displays the address in a different format.
I contacted them and said, “Well, how am I supposed to build business directories listings, should I use the correctly formatted address the way the United States Postal Service says it should be standard address formatting or should I use what's displayed?” The Google reps have said to me that I should use what the correct address format that is entered in the backend or Google My Business dashboard. Even though the Google is displaying it differently, they're displaying it differently because the other addresses in that shopping center are displayed that way. So, it's the more common display type. So all the citations are built with the correct formatted address, which does not match what shows on the Google My Business, if that makes sense. Yet, I've never had any problems with that listing. I was able to get it ranked very, very quickly and it's ranked today. That had been a client of mine now for a little over a year.
So, my point is, I know that as long as the data on the backend is inputted correctly, the Google is aware of it. It shouldn't cause you any problems, if you want to add your tracking number as the display number in GMB, as long as the primary business number is still included in the GMB dashboard.
But again, I have not tested that specifically. It should work, but I haven't tested it. The only other way that you could do it would be to set up the listing with that number or flat out, just the tracking number, I mean, or flat out change it and then do a citation cleanup. But then that puts you in control of their phone number across all their listings, not just their Maps listing and most clients aren't gonna go for that.
As far as tracking other results, remember, you have GMB Insights. You should have probably access to Analytics, so if you're doing work for your clients, then you should always take screenshots when you start the project. I take screenshots monthly so that we have a progression, they can always go back and look at screenshots side by side or scroll through them in a folder and look and see the type of results, increase in impressions, increase in number of keywords, increase in traffic numbers, decrease in rank, like getting higher in the search results, that kind of stuff. All of those are kind of metrics that you can show to prove what you're doing, if you're not tracking calls specifically.
That was a good question.
Marco: CallRail had a dynamic call tracking or call insertion. I forget what it's called in CallRail. But look into that so that you can track results for the client. Now as far as GMB, get your own assets and redirect the calls to the client, you track them in CallRail, you send them to the client's number, everybody's happy.
What Are Your Thoughts On PressCable's Statement That All News Sites Purge PRs From Sites?
For example, and I've said this before, NBC 29 is the Richmond, Virginia NBC affiliate and Richmond is the capital of Virginia. So, NBC 29, every time a press release gets published for a Virginia, a client of mine or one of my lead gen assets that are in Virginia, the NBC 29 press release typically ranks very, very well.
But I've seen those live as many as six months later, I think six months is like the definitive cutoff point where they purge for those. But I've also seen like no shit on the NBC 29 domain the press release purged within two weeks. So, I really don't understand, like sometimes it's two weeks, sometimes it's a month, sometimes six weeks, sometimes it's six months. So, I don't understand what their criteria is for purging. There may be some publications out there that it's a year and then they purge them or whatever.
That's why, like I went back through the Local PR Pro training and I very specifically talked about, with the PR stacking, that you should really know the services that you're using to identify which are the best stacking targets. In other words, find ones that are permanent. That's why I love Press Advantage and that's why we use it so much. We sell Press Advantage Press Releases because the Press Advantage domain itself is powerful. You get an organization page, which is a great link target. It's fabulous, plus it's got iFrames embedded. It's awesome, guys.
But then the actual Press Releases from Press Advantage rank very well, they're very well written, you get NAP and a do-follow link on it. It's just really, really strong and they don't purge. So, those become now are my primary link targets for a PR stack or my Press Advantage PRs. Or Digital Journal, which are all no-follow links, but it's still powerful.
If you are submitting Press Releases through PressCable, you'll notice that, and it might only be on premium distribution, but you'll get distributed out to newswire.net. Newswire.net, I don't think they purge from there either and that's another good link target. So, I would check into that, Dan. I can't remember though, because I have a subscription to Press Cable too. I don't remember if newswire.net is only for the premium distribution or if that's part of the regular distribution.
All right, last two questions, guys. I know we're a couple minutes over. We should be out here in about three minutes. Wayne says, “What is today, Bradley? Let's give away all the goodies from the Mastermind.” Yeah. “LOL. Truly good stuff you're sharing here today. If you haven't seriously considered joining Mastermind, then consider today's info, just to taste of the high-quality info you will garner from Mastermind.”
Thank you, Wayne. I appreciate that. Merry Christmas to you buddy and your family. Wayne's been a member of ours for as long as I can remember. Thanks, Wayne.
How Do You Get The Most Bang For Your Buck On Each Google Post?
Casey says, “Thank you guys for doing this. How do you get the most bang for your buck on each Google post?” I guess timing really. You have a good image, but the timing is really important. Marco talks about that a lot. You can see that, you can identify those kind of the best times just from looking at Insights reports. So, look at your Google Insights, Casey. I'm not gonna go in the detail here. Just go look at your Google insights report and take a look at the days that bring the most engagement and those are probably the days that you should be posting more often. At least in my opinion, it's probably how to get the most bang from a GMB post, if that makes sense.
Marco, what would you say?
Marco: If you go into the historical data, you can actually get the times when people tend to reach out for whatever. I don't care what niche. There are certain times that people are more active than others. Days also, we found that out with Mario. What the days were when you should be posting and the Times. That's all in the historical data and that's all shared inside the Local GMB Pro. I'm not gonna do it in here.
Bradley: Yeah. What's really cool was I recently landed a very large, well, for me, AdWords client or Google Ads client, it's about 20k a month an ad spend. That's the biggest account I've managed for Adwords, specifically. It's really cool. AdWords has come a long, long way in the last year, guys. It's really crazy, like the amount of stuff that's been added in Adwords, like automated bidding strategies and all this kind of stuff. But what's cool is they have an overview report now, which will show you, it'll give you recommendations on how to optimize the campaigns more.
One of the things that it does is, it shows you, after you have enough data, it'll show you the times of days that your ads are most likely to receive clicks or that people are most active and engaged, or most active searching for those type of keywords. It will actually tell you that, through using automated bidding strategies, it can increase your CPC bid or whatever during those times and decrease it during the times that the data shows that people are less likely to be active. So that you can stretch your marketing, your budgeting dollars out further, you can get more bang for your buck, essentially.
That kind of data you can actually apply to, that's what Marco's saying, you can get similar kind of data. I don't know if it's nearly as accurate, but you can get similar data from GMB Insights. If you're are using AdWords, you can also plan your content strategy around publishing content at those times that AdWords recommends that people most likely to engage with your ads or your content, your brand, if that makes sense.
Again, use the data that they give you, guys, to fine-tune your marketing campaigns. That's all I can say. All right. Thanks everybody for being here. Merry Christmas to all and to all, a good night. I'll see guys next week.
Adam: All right, welcome everybody to Hump Day Hangouts, episode 214. This time it actually is 214. I'm able to use my numbers this week, which is great. I almost wore my little Christmas hat, but I decided I gotta hold off for like another week.
We got a lot of good stuff. We got some news we want to share with you guys, and then jump into questions. But first, let's say hi. We got Hernan and Bradley with us. So, let's start on the left with Hernan. It looks like I can see half of his face. How's it going man?
Adam: Oh, there we go.
Hernan: How about now? Is that better? I'm doing great, actually, I'm doing really well. So, yeah, we're having a lot of good stuff coming out for '17 last year for the Mastermind. We have a bunch of good stuff for this month. I'm really, really excited for what's coming.
Bradley: I'm going to get a seizure from your fricking Christmas tree in the background.
Hernan: [inaudible 00:00:49].
Adam: No, come on we want to see …
Bradley: Stop doing that.
Adam: Oh my God. Stop doing that right along. Bradley, what are you doing, are you still alive?
Bradley: I'm convulsing, that's what I'm doing. No, I'm good man. I just finished the Syndication Academy Update Webinar, the first one in several months. Anyways, it wasn't as good as I'd hoped because I'm having some slight issues with one of the things I wanted to share. Because of that, I'm going to schedule another one for next month. So, just be on the lookout for that guys.
Bradley: Marco made it.
Adam: Yeah. Hey, Marco, are you there?
Marco: No, I'm not.
Adam: Well, we're just saying hello to everybody. If you've got a sec, if you want to say, “Hi, how you doing?”
Marco: Of course, man, what's up? I'm excited man. End of the year, so it's always good. Family time, just getting together. My wife's a chef, so I'm lucky and I'm really looking forward to 2019. We have so much coming down the pipeline, it's not even funny. It's ridiculous. The kind of money that's to be made right now. Dude, we're back into 2003, 2004, 2005 when I started out.
It's ridiculous the way you can just go out there and with almost nothing, make a bucket full of money.
Adam: Definitely. Now's the time. Well, we'll be speaking of that in a little bit more in just a minute. There's some really good opportunities, but I want to say too, if you're new to [inaudible 00:02:24], of course, thank you for watching. If you're checking out the replay on YouTube down the road, come join us live for these. You can always come to the most up to date or the recent or upcoming one. That's semanticmastery.com/hdquestions.
Again, if you're new to Semantic Mastery, you're wondering where to start, start with the battle plan, all right. That's going to get you repeatable results. Covers a ton of different areas, different stuff you need. Then, once you've got that, we even encourage our Mastermind members, everyone to get the battle plan. Once you're ready, take yourself a few notches, if you want to either start or grow your own local digital marketing agency, come join the Mastermind.
I can talk about Masterminds just in general, all day about how much good they do for you. We love ours, we're very proud of it. We've got a bunch of kickass members and we've got a lot of really good stuff coming here very soon. We're putting it to action right now. The [pofu 00:03:16] pass and we're going to have a little bit of a special to do with that. We're going to explain much more about that. Let you guys see a little bit behind the curtains here, more closer to Christmas, I guess, is the way to say that.
But, in the very near future, Bradley's going to be doing a webinar on Monday, right?
Bradley: Yes, Monday's the Local Lease Pro Update Webinar to share some additional things that I've discovered for that … Myself and my team have discovered over the last … Since we've launched the course, essentially. Several things that we're going to talk about is location research is much more granular now than before, so I'm going to be sharing that process on that webinar. I can show you guys how to use … How to run that software that we use in that course to find easy opportunities for GMB assets.
It's on a much more granular level and I'll explain all of that during the webinar, which will be on Monday. I'm also going to be talking about some things to avoid, to prevent getting locations terminated for spam. There's certain things that we've learned through all the very heavy custing that we've been doing the last couple of months. So, I want to talk about that.
So, you guys that aren't part of Local Lease Pro, you'll get information, like behind the scenes in some of the information, but it's not going to be the whole picture, right? So, we're going to make it public, everybody can come join because I want you guys to … This is our primary push right now in Semantic Mastery, we've really shifted directions entirely to building out legion assets right now because there's so much opportunity, more so than I've ever seen, since I've started in digital marketing and local marketing, which was in 2010 and I mean that.
Marco was just saying, “This is like 2003, 4, of 5, or whatever.” Well, I wasn't in digital marketing back in, so I don't know what it was like. But, since 2010 when I got started, I've never seen this much opportunity. So, that's why we're pushing it so hard and that's why I wanted to make this update webinar Monday public because I want you guys to see how excited and enthusiastic we are about this and also why.
When you see what I talk about, with the location research alone, if that doesn't get you excited, then you're in the wrong damn business is all I'm saying. So, again, we're going to have that public on Monday. Adam screwed up and put 48 hours in the email that it's going to be public, I didn't want it to be public for that long, so fuck you Adam.
Adam: Merry Christmas.
Bradley: Yeah. Merry Christmas you prick. Yeah, I was really only going to keep it public for 24 hours, but since the emails went out, it'll be public for 48 hours and then it's getting lockdown and then it's going to be in the members area only, along with the rest of the training. So, I highly recommend that you guys come check it out.
If you haven't joined Local Lease Pro, we're going to also offer a shit ton of bonuses and stuff like that. If you do want to join on Monday, but it'll be kind of a limited time thing. So, make sure you attend and absorb as much information as you can.
Adam: Yeah. I want to encourage people too who aren't in, obviously for the members be there … We're going to have some good stuff. For non-members, we are doing Q&A, so if you want, come and learn, see what's going on a little bit behind the scenes, like Bradley said, you can see really what's going on here, how big the opportunity is.” But then we'll also be answering questions.
We realized if you don't have the whole picture, there's something missing. You're not sure how this would work for you, this, that, or the other thing, be there. Ask questions, get them answered, and then like Bradley said, we've got a hell of a Christmas deal for you and happy to make that available, but yeah, that replays going to be only available for a limited time and then if you're not there live, obviously, you can't get questions answered as in depth as if you're there. Sign up, be there.
Bradley: Yep. So, what else we got?
Adam: One last quick one, just want to tell people the special offer is going away for MGYB, we've got a killer deal on the deep keyboard research. All right, this is one of the new additions to MGYB, it's a kickass keyboard research done for your service and it's 40% off and that's going away later today. So, I'm going to pop the link up there, check it out.
If you've got any projects coming up, you've got clients coming on board. You've got websites, thinking about building apps, need content ideas, this is the place to do it and 40% is a hell of a chunk of change. Highly suggest you make use of this today before it goes away.
Adam: I think that's it, are we ready to go?
Would It Hinder The Ranking Of A GMB Page If The Images Uploaded In 2016 Will Be Removed And Reupload Them For Geotagging?
Yeah, I don't think it would be a problem. I would do a few at a time if I were to do it, Dan. I mean, again, maybe Marco has some additional information than I do. I don't see why that would be a problem. If they're just GMB images, you're not taking post down and all that kind of stuff, then I don't see why it would be a problem.
I wouldn't want to take post down though, delete posts and then repost them again, I'd just leave the old posts up, if that makes sense. If it's just images, taking it from the GMB photo section, like removing them, geo tagging them and then reuploading, I can't see that as being an issue. But, I would still do it a handful at a time, dripped out of several days or whatever. What do you think, Marco?
Marco: Yeah, my question is why would you want to do that. Why not add new images.
Bradley: New images. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point.
Marco: We teach how and I think Dan has Local GMB Pro. We teach you how to go in and get images anywhere you want and then you go and add all the information that you want and then you have new data. This is the whole point. You guys, I don't know how much I can get into this, but you're missing the whole point of what Local GMB Pros all about and what we're doing with Local Lease Pro and Local PR Pro.
We're trying to feed the fucking bot data and if you take stuff down and bring it back up, Google knows that the image existed already without the geo tagging. Why not give Google new images with new information, so not only is it looking at the front, it's also looking at the back. I don't understand the point, unless you can't get images. If you can't get images from your client, fire the client, or use the method that we teach in Local GMB Pro.
Always, for me, I always feed the bot more data. More data. It's always about more data, fill in the variables, and get lots of love.
Bradley: Yeah, I like that. That's just true. If you get more images … Dan, you should know, I think you're part of Local GMB Pro, but … I think RYS members also had access to that webinar, on how to get additional images. There's stuff like … Even if YouTube, you can just grab images from YouTube, I've done that a bunch. That's what my VAs are currently doing right now because they're a bit faster at it. Yeah, there's a ton of ways to get additional images. I agree with Marco, his was definitely a better answer than mine. So, Marco's the winner.
How Many GMBs Per Manager Account Is Acceptable?
Dan's up again and he says, “How many GMBs per manager account is acceptable?” Well, it depends, Dan. It depends what you're … What are the … What type of GMB assets are they? Are they real bonafide genuine businesses? If they're genuine businesses, there's no problem adding a manger and managing the genuine businesses from a manager account, right? They're real businesses, there's no problem with that at all.
Now, Marco and I have slightly differing opinions for lead gen assets, but personally for lead gen assets … Guys, let's just be 100% clear here, let's not sugarcoat this, when we're doing lead gen GMB assets, they're spammed, right? They're spammed assets, that's what they are. So, let's be clear about that. So, when you're doing lead gen stuff, then I don't recommend using a manager account because that connects … That creates a footprint, right? You can connect to different locations.
So, what I'm doing currently now and I've tested … Because we're scaling this lead gen asset building process so much right now, we're testing all different types of configurations and I've got several out there right now where I'm doing location clusters, which is multiple locations where assets within a service area, like a radius. A 20 mile radius is typically what I'm doing right now.
So, I'll secure many assets within that 20 mile radius. So, some of my location clusters are manged under a single manager account. In other words, each location is owned by a separate Google profile. So, it's owned by a separate Google profile. But, it's managed or there's a manger account that connects those profiles, so a manager can access them. However, like I said, currently what I've kind of shifted to now, is doing everything under the owner account or at least logging it … Or, if I'm going to add a manager, only adding a manger long enough to make changes to the GMB asset and then removing that manger, so that the footprint doesn't stay there.
In other words, for example, one of the things that we're going to be doing is providing done for you GMB optimization services, so we can provide an MGYB, our store. It's not available yet, but it's coming very, very soon, guys. We've got VAs in training right now, to be able to provide you guys with full soup to nuts done for you GMB asset building. From verification, all the way through … Setup an optimization and scheduling GMB posts and scheduling them to republish to where you don't have to do shit, except purchase it and then start making money from it once you monetize it, right.
So, one of the things that we're going to have to do is whenever we create or somebody … Typically, you're going to buy the asset from us, so we create it for you, but then the VAs that are going to optimizing it, will be … That asset will be … A manager will be added to that asset and then the VAs will optimize that profile, that GMB asset from the manager account. But, then as soon as we go to deliver it, we remove the manager account, right? That's what the process is likely going to be and that way there's the owner account and then you can add yourself as a manager if you'd like, but I would recommend using something like Browseo or Ghost Browser and always logging in and making changes to it from the primary owner account.
That way, it's isolated to that one account. In other words, if you end up getting terminated from Google, for whatever reason … I've got a couple assets that have been terminated recently, that I don't understand why they were terminated, but again, they're spammed assets, so I'm not going to complain too much, I'm just going to move on and build another one, right? So, my point is if you end up catching some sort of penalty and it gets terminated, then it's going to be isolated to one account and one account only. Okay? So, in the past, I've always said that it's okay to add yourself as a manager to GMB assets and then manage … Make changes and things like that through the manager account.
But, that's typically when for real businesses or maybe the occasional lead gen asset, I've never done it at scale, like we have been over the last few weeks. I'm really concerned because these are black hatted Google, GMB assets. I'm really worried about potential footprints. So, I'm trying to do as much as possible to reduce footprints. That means not using manager accounts when … If possible. If you're using a good browser [inaudible 00:15:17] like Browseo or Ghost Browser, you should be able to accomplish that.
Now, Marco, I know you have a slightly different take on it, do you want to share yours?
Marco: Yeah, we have managers doing it all. The owner never, ever goes back in. That's how we do it. It's as if an agency were doing the work for that Google my business listing, which I think [crosstalk 00:15:40].
Bradley: So, you have different manager accounts, is what you're saying?
Marco: Absolutely, yeah. Because we have a whole bunch of VAs.
Marco: Right? So, they all get spread out. We don't have one BA that does … For example, what you always talk about, tree service, right? It's not about a bunch of clustered tree service, GMBs that, that VA is doing. They're out everywhere. They have a bunch of different niches that they handle. The team lead will spread them out. She'll give, “Okay, you get three. You get three of these. You get three of these. You get three of these.” Then, she'll come back and she'll start adding them again until we get to a certain point and then we don't add to those who will open a new account and that account we'll manage the next set. They all won't be in one niche. I think that's just perfectly legitimate.
In fact, I haven't seen any problems with any of the stuff that we're doing getting suspended.
Bradley: Yeah, I haven't had anything suspended through a manager account. So, again, I've had in the past, I've had a manager account suspended and it didn't affect any of the GMB assets that it was managing because the asset was owned by a different Google profile. So, as far as I know, that's still the case, but I don't want to create a known footprint between assets. So, what Marco just said, Dan, just to clarify, is that he's … Remember they're making changes. His team is making changes to GMB assets through manager accounts, not through the owner accounts.
But, there's not a footprint between the manager accounts and the assets because he's randomly selecting different Gmail accounts to be added as managers and they manage more than just one vertical industry. Now, again, Marco's got a team. Dan, I'm not sure if you have a team or not. So, that might not be the most efficient way for you, if you don't have a team. If you have a team, then maybe it is. Also, it depends on again, like Marco said, if you're dealing with multiple industries, that makes it easier to do that because each manager account can be managing multiple types of GMB assets. In other words, different types of industries, which would make sense because that acts very much like an agency that would be managing different client's businesses, right?
So, what Marco's saying is absolutely valid, I completely understand his method. Me, personally, in my business, I am targeting one industry. So, we're targeting … For my business as tree service industry for contact media, it's remodeling and general contractors. So, because of that, we're targeting one industry, I don't have that … Even if we had multiple manager accounts, every manager account will only be managing similar types of properties. So, that doesn't work for my setup. Again, you're going to have to customize the setup based upon what your specific business is currently and select which is best.
For me, for my business, because I'm targeting one industry, the best, so far … At least what I think to be the best method is doing everything through the primary owner account or if I'm going to add a manager, it's only temporary, long enough for the manger to make whatever changes are going to the GMB and then that manager get removed, so that it's not a long term manager connection, if that makes sense. Okay, so again, really take what Marcos said and take what I said, and determine which is the better fit for your business and then apply that method, okay. It's a great question, by the way, Dan.
Marco: I'm also about to put it to the test because I'm about to close on a really deal, where we're talking about thousands of GMBs and it's in one vertical, one niche. I'm going to see which of the two methods works best for longevity.
Marco: [crosstalk 00:19:42].
Bradley: That's what we're trying to do here. We're trying to develop processes to scale all of this, which is really what local, excuse me, what [inaudible 00:19:51] is all about. So, we're really trying to develop all of these processes and done for you services because we're building out our own. Guys, we're not just creating these services to sell them to you guys. We're creating these services for our internal use. Since we're going through all the trouble of creating all of these processes and training virtual assistants to do all this stuff, because we're building our own businesses this way, we practice exactly what we preach guys.
Since we're going through all this trouble anyways, it just makes sense to also … Because we're going to have all the processes in place for training, for all of this, to be able to provide that to you guys, right? Because of that, we're doing all of this testing right now. Remember, a lot of this is new at this level, at this level of volume that we're doing. So, we're trying to figure it out as we go and as soon as we get good information, we share it in the appropriate places. Like Local Lease Pro, Local GMB Pro, and then the Mastermind. Those are the three places where this stuff is getting shared, right?
Thoughts On Google CEO Sundar Pichai's Testimony That Google Is Not Manually Intervening On Search Results
So, this is working at scale. We don't manually intervene any search results. Another SEO said, “Anyone else see the word manually in there? Duh, I would've preferred him to say, ‘We don't intervene.' Thought you slipped that one by, huh, Sundar? Maybe to that box of rocks they call Congress but not to us, SEOs.” That's funny. I thought that was really interesting. So, thanks for sharing, Wayne.
Are There Any Laws Or Issues One Should Worry About When Running Ads To A Vacation Giveaway Offer That Is Free?
Frankie's up, what's up, Frankie? He's coming to ask a lot of questions. He said, “Hey, guys. Happy holidays. I've got a new client who owns a travel vacation club in the travel niche.” Marco, this seems like might be up your alley. “In my city who's giving me $1,000 with ad spend with Google Ads because they want results ASAP. Then, for each lead I bring in, they will be getting …” You will be getting paid, Frankie will be getting paid, “$200 to $250 regardless if they join the travel club or not.” There you go, that's great Frankie.
So, they're giving you the $1,000 for ad spend and they're going to pay you with the leads that you generate with their money? Phew, that's a really cool engagement, man. How'd you get that? How'd you manage that one? That's great. I like that. “Since he is paying for the ad spend and I still get a nice chunk per lead, I agreed to do his deal at the potential … I agreed to do his deal as a potential … Here it's huge for me.” Yes, I agree. Typically, in this industry, in order to generate the leads, the main way all the current marketing companies have done is to … They do a free giveaway offer for a vacation trip to Orlando or a free cruise in exchange for their contact info and having them attend a short sales presentation where they have the option to buy or not buy. But, they still get their promised free gift.
Okay, so first thing, is there any potential issues with that? I don't know. You'd have to contact Google. If you're talking about setting up Google Ads, then I would just call Google Ads, formerly AdWords. Call Google Ads support and ask them that. They'll tell. Guys, listen. I've always found Google Ads … The support line, to call them, always really helpful. I'm not kidding. Anytime I have a question that I'm unsure of, I just call Google Ads because I'm spending money with them, why not call them and just ask them so I don't have to spend a bunch of money researching stuff.
Of course, I do a Google search first and if I can't find a direct answer to my question within a few minutes, then I will call. They're usually really responsive and they're happy to help because you're a paying advertiser. I found that to be the case, maybe other people have had different experiences, but I have always found it rather helpful. So, I would call in and ask. Do some Google research first if you can, Frankie.
It's very funny, but there was a training course, I can't remember the name of it, it was by Morrison, Anthony Morrison. He's got a brother too. They do a bunch of stuff, but he's got a training course, it's rather old. A couple years old now. It was very much like what you're talking about, but it was done on Facebook and that was giving away a free vacation, which cost him like $600 or $800. He could buy a three night or a two night, three day trip package at an Orlando resort or something like that, right? It would cost him like $800, $600 to $800 or something like that.
Then, he would do it on his Facebook page for that area, he would do a post and he would use Facebook ads on the page to promote this free giveaway for this free vacation giveaway, right? For two nights and three days at whatever this resort was. He did it in multiple locations and he would get thousands of people to opt-in for that free giveaway. On the thank you page, after the opt-in, there would just be AdSense. Straight up Google AdSense ads. Because so many thousands of people would click through and opt-in to be put on the list for the vacation giveaway and then land on the thank you page with the AdSense ads, which by the way you can put affiliate offers there and things too.
Then, he would end up making more money on just the AdSense clicks, then it cost to pay for the vacation, the giveaway, right? For the tickets of the giveaway. So, he ended up making money just on that giveaway alone and then he built a list of thousands of people that now he can email market to, right? Also, retarget or remarket through remarketing, right? So, it was huge because he was building a list with a free giveaway and making money on it. He as a training course about it, it's all done on Facebook, but you could apply that same principle to a Google Ads campaign or apply Google Ads to that same type of campaign is what I'm saying.
Again, if it's legal … Well, if it's not a violation of Google Ads terms and service, but you can find that out either through some research or just calling Google and asking them. It's a brilliant strategy. Brilliant strategy.
Marco: [crosstalk 00:26:35]. I just posted the URL for their policy regarding contests and giveaways.
Bradley: A no go?
Marco: No, yeah. He has to look through it. As long as the state where he is doing it doesn't prohibit it, as long as it's not prohibited in the U.S. or whatever, he can totally do it. [crosstalk 00:26:54]. Read through the URL, make sure that you understand it. Again, call Google. Frankie act real stupid. Look, “I want to spend some money with you, I'm not sure how? Can I do this?” If you act really stupid, they're really going to help. I mean, seriously. They're going to go out of their way to get you to spend your money with them.
Then, you go, after you're done with them and take … Everything that they said, with a grain of salt. Because all you're looking for is the clarification that yes, you can do it and what the conditions are. What the limitations are, that's all you're looking to get out of them. They're going to try to talk you in to getting some of their reps to help you or whatever. You can always do it yourself. But, the whole point behind this is getting all those little nuggets out of the person that you're talking to. The way that you do that is by acting really dumb.
Bradley: This is it. This is it. I was trying to think, I was sitting here the whole time you're talking, I'm trying to think a name of that Facebook page, where that … Let's see, was it this one or this one? It was Destin Florida and it was Anthony Morison's course, I can't remember. I think it's this one. Yeah, this one here. Destinflorida.com.
Hernan: Yeah, Destin Florida. I don't remember the name of the course either.
Bradley: Me neither.
Bradley: But, this is it right here. Look, they're still doing it. See, look, he's still doing this, man. I don't know why'd you ever quit. He's crushing it with this guys. You can see, he's still doing it. The course is still at least two years old. So, destinflorida.com, you can see the type of promotions he sets up. Live three day giveaway. Again, the training course is really good. We don't have an affiliate link for it, I'd give it to you. But, honestly, it's a good course. I actually set it up for my keto VIP project, which is the ketogenic diet thing that I was doing for a while, but I don't do much of affiliate marketing, you guys. I just straight do local stuff. I certainly don't like Facebook.
I know you can make a lot of money from Facebook, but I'm just not a fan of Facebook. So, I spent a lot of time setting up a similar giveaway with ketogenic diet stuff and I wasn't nearly as successful with it and it's probably just because I only attempted it once and then quit because I just don't like Facebook. Like I said, this is a really good strategy, I think it's something you should checkout for sure. It was a great question. As far as Answerconnect, it's been several years since I've had Answerconnect do any outbound calls for me.
I used to do that with lead gen service providers, when I used to offer equity share or revenue, like when I would have a service provider where I would get a percentage of a closed job or of a closed sale. What I would do and I've mentioned this before, maybe I don't have the hangouts, but I've done this with three different tree service contractors. Only one of them ended up being honest with me and not lying about jobs that closed and they said they didn't get them.
One of the ways I found out that I had contractors lying to me and not giving me credit or paying me for jobs, for leads that came through my sites, was I had Answerconnect to … Answerconnect's been my call center, like my call answering service since 2012, so I've been using them for many years. At the time, I would have Answerconnect go … I would provide the leads that came to a particular GMB location and I would provide the phone leads to Answerconnect and have them do an outbound customer survey, right?
That's what it was disguised as a customer survey and they would call the leads that came through and say, “Hey, this is blah, blah, blah, tree service. We're calling with a customer satisfaction survey. We understand that you didn't use our services and we were just calling in order to improve our service, we'd like to ask you a couple questions as to what led you to make the decision to hire somebody else.” Something like that. It was worded something like that.
I provided them with a script. It was two to three questions. What would happen is the call, the person who would answer the phone, the lead that they were calling, right, would say, “Well, we made a decision to go … We just decided not to get the tree work done.” Or, “We went another company because of this …” Sometimes the answer would be, “Wait a minute, we did hire you guys to do the tree service. Go back and check your records.” Or, something like that. They would say, “No, we did hire you.” Then, I would call the contractor and say, “Okay, what about this lead here? Did you close this job?” When they would lie to me, I would show them proof, “Wait a minute, I had it confirmed that you did do the job, therefore, you're fired. I'm going to send these leads somewhere else.”
That happened to me … I tried that with six different contractors and only one of them turned out to be honest. I don't offer that anymore, unless I've developed a really good working relationship with somebody. But, at the time, Answerconnect was the service that did it. Now, I don't know if they still do it, the easiest way to find out, Frankie, is just contact Answerconnect, right? Go to Answerconnect and go to contact us tab and ask them a question. You can call them. They're an answering service, so call them, ask them, “Do you guys do outbound calls?” If they will, great. If not, just do a search on Google, right? Outbound calling, telemarketers, something like that and find a service and have them do the outbound calls. Okay? It's that simple.
Answerconnect used to do that, but I don't know if they still do because it's been many years since I've done that. Okay? That's a great … Man, that's really sweet about this guy with giving you a $1,000 and … So, you're going to spend his ad money and for every lead that you generate with his ad money, you're going to get paid? That's great, man. You should try to repeat that over and over again. So, congratulations.
How Do You Determine The Profit Margin Of A Potential Local Lead Gen Client?
For example, if you're … If you're looking for … Well, first of all, think about … You've got to think about the type of businesses … The carpet cleaning, they're very, very small margins for the most part. So, it's hard to justify marketing cost, especially lead generation cost for carpet cleaning companies. Like tree services, it's almost all labor, right? It's very rarely is there ever any material cost, other than fuel, right? Then, paying for labor for the workers and stuff like that. There's very rarely any material cost. Remodeling leads, think about a kitchen remodel, right?
A kitchen remodel on the low end, an average kitchen remodel is about $30,000. Typically, most general contractors and remodeling contractors have about a 20% markup, right? So, if it's a $30,000 job and again about the average is a 20% margin, markup, margin, right? Then, they're looking at about a $6,000 profit margin, $24,000 would go out to materials and two subcontractors for labor, right? That's about a $6,000 profit margin per lead there, so it's easy or it's much more easy to justify charging $100,000 a lead, when there's $6,000 profit potential for that lead. Does that make sense?
So, again, think about it logically, Will, that's first and foremost. Just think about the type of business that you may want to generate leads for. Think about what they charge for their product or service and think about what their cost may be. Try to guesstimate. You can try to do some simple Google searches, guys, and start looking for that kind of data. You will likely find it with a little bit of digging, just by Googling. As a last resort or if you're not …
I personally, don't like talking to people on the phone, for the most part, unless it's something I purposely scheduled, unless I want to … You know what I mean? So, I don't like to call people just out of the blue and ask questions. That is a way that you can do it. For example, you can call whatever business type in your local area that you're considering doing lead gen services for and just ask them. Say, “Look, I'm a local marketing guy. I'm in the same area. I'm not calling you to sell you anything. I'm literally calling you to ask you some questions about your type of business because I'm considering getting into marketing for this type of business. I'd just like to know a little bit more about your industry. Would you be willing to answer a couple of questions.”
Send somebody a gift card for $20 or something like that to Starbucks or to a local restaurant and then call them after you know that it's been delivered, right? Then, say, “Hey, I'm the guy that sent you the $20 gift card. Would you mind answering a couple questions about your business because I'm looking to get into marketing for that. I'm not trying to pitch you on anything, that's why I sent you a $20 Starbucks gift card. Would you mind taking a few minutes?”
Butter them up first by giving them something. I've done that in the past, guys, and it works. So, again, it's just a conversation starter and is it worth $20 to actually find out what the margins are for a particular business that you may be interested in generating leads for? Also, couldn't they be the first person to buy leads from you, after you had that conversation and built some rapport with them? Think about it. So, there you go, Will. Like I said, a lot of the times, just think about it logically first. Do some research on Google. You'll likely find the information you're looking for, some sort of statistic sheets or something.
Lastly, you can always just send somebody a small gift. Or, you could just do a straight cold call, but if you want to butter them up first … Remember the law of reciprocity, when you give somebody something for nothing and you're not trying to pitch them … You guys know, probably from prospecting and trying to sell marketing services, we've always talked about how we should lead with something free first and then you try to sell them something. What if you give them something free first and you don't try to sell them anything. You just want to ask them a question.
You'll probably close that sale because you're not selling anything, you know what I mean? I would try that.
Marco: What I've also done, is I just have people call as a customer, just a typical customer to get a quote, just so that I have-
Bradley: That won't reveal what the profit margin is for that.
Marco: No, no. It won't reveal the profit margin, but it gives you an idea. If you have a quote and you know the general markup, which is 20% to 30% across the board, sometimes 10. It's generally 20 to 30, then you know more or less where you are.
Should You Limit Your Service Area Within The Zip Code Where The GMB Is Secured?
Well, that's up to you, it depends on really how you spaced out your assets. You don't want there to be gaps or spaces between us, that's if possible. So, that's really determined … Again, this is more of a question that should be answered on Monday, not necessarily today, Ted, because we're having the whole Local Lease Pro Update Webinar then. But, yeah, I would say it depends on how you have your other assets within that same service area radius spread out, right? Let's say you have a 20 mile service area radius and you've got only four assets and they're equally spaced out across those 24 or that 20 mile radius, then I would have the service area setup for each of those locations to where they all overlap in the middle slightly but that way the whole 20 mile service area is covered, by service area of each location, right?
So, each location will cover 25% in that particular example. So, that's how I do it. If you're doing a whole bunch of locations within a particular service area, then yeah, you can go hyper local, which is really what we're teaching with Local Lease Pro anyways, is going hyper local and keeping your service area or radius very, very tight, or small. Something I typically have been doing is going about a 5 mile radius, guys. That's only a 10 mile service area, right? 5 mile radius from the location itself, that's typically what I'm doing. But, again, it depends on how many assets you have and how big your service area is and how you want to spread them out then.
We'll talk more about that on Monday. Okay, there you go, Adam, thank you. Thank you. There you, Brian, it was just posted below you. “What time is the webinar on Monday?” It's 4:00 PM, I believe Eastern, right? Hello?
Bradley: Yeah. All right, Monday, September 17th, I believe, yeah, 4:00 PM>
Adam: I'll put it on the page, it should've been on there.
Okay, it's just a one page site, but every time you create a GMB post, it gets … If you have a GMB website published, then it will also be converted into an internal page on the site. So, that's a GMB website. Yes, if you're doing GMB stuff, I say, setup the GMB website too. Use all the tools, all the features that Google gives you guys. That's why we're crushing it right now. We're doing everything that Google is giving to us, where 95% of other businesses don't even have a clue that it exists. That's why we're crushing it right now. That's what Local GMB Pro is all about.
Just get in there and use all of the tools that Google gives within Google My Business and Google will promote your location, your asset, above everybody else because you're using all the tools that nobody else is using. Does that make sense? Yes, Brian, use the GMB website if you can. Marco, do you want to comment on that?
Marco: No, you answered it perfectly. That's all I use.
Bradley: Okay. I'm not even building WordPress websites anymore guys. I swear to God. The only time I'm going to build a WordPress website is if a client demands it. For lead gen assets, nope, don't need them anymore. Why the hell would I want to go out and pay for a domain, setup hosting and deal with all the stupid WordPress shit that we have to deal with all the time, when I can setup lead gen assets all day long with a GMB single page website and I never have to do a damn thing to it, think about. So, again, if a client demands a website, which most clients will, then, that's fine, I'll work on their WordPress websites for them.
But, for my own stuff now, nope. No more WordPress sites, I'm done. At least for now, that may change.
Marco: For those of you who have worked out the page rank math that business.site is around a 5, 6 PR. That doesn't mean that your sub domain is going to get a 5, 6. But, I mean, you're attached not only to a Google property, but it's like a 5, 6 PR. So, the quality score will be a … Not the quality score, but the ranking score will be just a touch lower than that, but it's a really good indicator that it's fucking powerful and you need to be there.
What Are Possible Reasons Why A Site Ranks Lower Than The Others Despite Having Better DR, UR And More Quality Backlinks Than Its Competitor?
I don't give a shit what the metrics are from my competitors compared to the metrics that I work on or my client's assets because we can still get results regardless of what those metrics say, period. We've proven that over and over again. So, again, I'm not picking on you. This is probably the first time you've asked a question here. This is really not the forum of Semantic Mastery is not the place to ask questions about metrics and why your higher metric property isn't outranking somebody with lower metrics. Probably because they're doing stuff that really speaks directly or feeds Googles … Feeds Google exactly what it wants and that's independent, separate and apart from metrics.
Metrics are proprietary. So, Moss has its own algorithm that it tries to determine the strength of domains, pages, and things like that based upon what it things Google wants. And AH Ref has its own and Majestic has its own and everybody has their own metrics and they're all proprietary. None of them work for Google. So, what I'm saying is because Google doesn't give us page rank metrics anymore, which was the most accurate, then why bother with third-party metrics. I know some people out here live and die by third-party metrics. That's fine.
If it's working for you, that's great. But, in your case Asheesh, you're saying that your metrics are higher but it's not ranking. So, apparently, it's not just a metric thing that determines whether you rank or not, right? You're saying that you have living proof right now that it's not just a metric thing, which is why we don't care about third-party metrics anymore. I don't even track them, I don't care. Does that make sense? Now, I know Marco has a strong opinion about this too.
Marco: Yeah, absolutely, because everything we do is meant to trigger the good parts, let's call it, of the Google algorithm, freshness and proximity. Just everything that Google is looking for. They're looking, as I said, for the ranking score, they're looking … It's not just pay join, pay join is part and I've been saying this for a couple of years. Pay join is part of the ranking score algorithm and that's what we're building up. As long as we're working towards that, we can care less what Moss is doing or Majestic or anything else. It's a guide, but theirs is a guess.
If you think of a whole bunch of people together and they got the math that Google gives you, because they don't give you everything, and they made an educated guess, right? Some went for domain authority, some went for trust. Well, neither one has everything that Google has. The only one that has that Google has is Google and they're not giving up the ghost. So, all we can do is … The Semantic Mastery, which is we test, we see what moves the needle and then we do some more of it.
We do some more of it to the point where we try to hammer it and try to break it and try to get Google to push back, so that we know when we come to you guys, we can tell you these are the boundaries as far as what you can do.
Hernan: Yeah, with the thresholders.
Marco: Yeah, absolutely. We need to know. We need to know what doesn't work, so that we can give people what does work, right? That's just obvious, that's what everybody should be doing and if they're not, then, Asheesh, avoid them. Go somewhere else.
Bradley: That's it. Thank you, Marco. [inaudible 00:47:04], by the way, I don't know if you saw that I commented on your question on the Syndication Academy update. Man, I really apologize, I missed your question. Yours was the first question, so I don't know how I missed it. But, he was asking on that about can you get an RSS feed from Facebook. Yes, you can from Zapier, you can get an RSS feed from Zapier. So, yes you can.
In fact, I posted on that page the event page from earlier that I would try to squeeze that in from the update webinar we're going to do next month in January, which is part two of this Syndication Academy Update Webinar that I held today. So, I'll try to get to that.
Is There A Benefit Of Using Hashtag When Posting To GMB?
Marco: Yeah, you can use hashtags, I don't know if they go … Actually, you can do jump links in posts. I just gave me something that I shouldn't be giving away, but run with it.
Bradley: Yeah. I don't know. Well, jump links are different from hashtags though. Again, I don't know if hashtags if they hyperlink with a posted post, I don't know or not, I haven't tested that. I have no idea.
Marco: I don't know if they would work. I don't know if there's a benefit. Everything that we're doing does not include hashtags.
Bradley: Hashtags, yeah.
Marco: Maybe that's something we should test, we should put that on our list of things to [crosstalk 00:48:31].
Bradley: I'm going ping Rob, test hashtags for GMB post.
Marco: Yeah. Tell him to contact Irene and then Irene will contact me.
Bradley: Whatever, he knows what I meant. Okay, yeah. That's a good one, thanks for pointing that out, I haven't even thought about that, we can test on that too. Yeah, the jump link thing, we will be talking about that in local Lease Pro or Local GMB Pro. Probably Local GMB Pro and then Mastermind guys in probably sometime next month, because I got part two of Syndication Academy Webinars very specifically about Q&A posts and Q&A schema, questions and answers schema. So, there's something that we can apply with what Marco just leaked to that. We'll talk about that once part two of Syndication Academy Update Webinar is complete. Okay. But, there's something very powerful we can do with that.
What Are The Main Needle Movers For Boosting A GMB's Ranking?
Maybe you need to increase posting frequency on those days, right? It will also tell you the keywords that are … Or, the search queries that are bringing the most traffic to your site. For whatever reason, when you target those keywords in GMB posts, they tend to bring in more traffic. Also, by the way, you'll probably notice, Edward, a lot of the keywords that are bringing traffic are near me keywords, near me queries, right? Or, variations nearby, close to me, in my area. Those types of queries. Target those, guys. You're triggering the mobile algorithm that way. Google loves that shit.
So, go in there and collect … Start building a database in near me terms and all the variations thereof. Then, start targeting those in near me type posts. Again, we have post templates that are called near me post templates inside Local Lease Pro, as well as local GMB pro. Not going to give them to you here, but you can create your own too by the way. You don't need my templates, you can sit down and just think about how to create your own near me templates. Post regularly and consistently and often, right? That's the number one key.
Then, as far as getting ranked in the free pack, which isn't really necessary to get results from GMB. It doesn't even have to be in the three pack, guys, because you're talking … Especially what I just mentioned with the mobile stuff, you don't even need to be in three pack and you can still generate leads from GMB assets, we've proven that. If you want to be in the three pack because, let's face it guys, that's still something that we as us like to see, right? Local PR pro, I'm not shitting you.
Probably the quickest way I've ever seen, other than the other Local Lease Pro method, which is just researching locations and finding easy opportunities, other than that, the quickest way I've been able to get into the three pack is through press releases in the Local PR method, which is PR stacking and all of that. Again, that's why Local Lease Pro guys is hands down … That is our number one front end product right now. It will be, as long as this opportunity exists, right? Local GMB Pro is the advanced training for GMB assets.
It's for those assets that don't push into the three pack and generate results right away. It's for the more competitive areas. That's what Local GMB Pro is, it's about how to get the absolute power out of a GMB asset, whether it's in a three pack of not, it makes no difference. Local PR pro, is the course that teaches you how to push that into a three pack in very, very quickly, whether it has a website or not. That's why there's three courses, guys. I'm telling you, they work hand-in-hand. Then, lastly to follow it all up, is RYS Academy and drive stacks, which is like … that's super advanced stuff that just pushes a shit ton of power into whatever you want through Google properties, right?
So, it's like those three courses are … They compound. They just build upon each other and then RYS is for … That's just the icing on the cake and that's for if you have … If you just want to push massive authority. Marco, you want to chat about that at all?
Marco: No, I think you nailed it on the head. They go hand in hand. Local PR Pro, Local GMB Pro, Local Lease Pro, each one acts differently. Then, when you want to … If you want it to stick, you throw drive stacks at it and then it's like … Like I said, it's never … I haven't seen it this easy to make money in so long, that it's not even funny. It's just so easy. The main needle mover, as you said, it's just activity, but it has to be the right kind of activity on that niche. Let me tell you right now, that each niche reacts differently, depending on the kind of posts that you do. I'll give that away. I'm not going to give everything away, but I'll tell you that.
How Much SEO Do You Do For GMB Sites?
Bradley: Jeff says, “How much SEO do you do for GMB sites? Also, how much can you throw at a GMB site without incurring the wrath of G?” Okay, as SEO, I just put well-optimized content on it, guys. The beautiful thing about a GMB website is you don't … You cannot modify SEO elements of the page. You don't put in header tags and you don't … You just literally past content in. You can bold stuff and you can create links from within the content. You can't add header tags. There's nothing that you can modify on the elements of the page, it's just text only, right? It's all you can do.
All you need to do is have a well written piece of content for the GMB website and that's it. That's as far as you can go for on page, other than photos, which are incredibly important and GMB posts, which act as inner pages, if you have a GMB website. If you're just doing GMB posts and you don't have a GMB website, then you don't … They don't act as inner pages, they're just posts. But, if you have a GMB website, then they'll start as posts and then it'll turn into an inner page of the website as well. So, you can silo those. I can't get into how, but we'll talk about that a little bit on Monday for the Local Lease Pro method.
Our auto-poster, the GMB auto-poster, that we have will also automate a siloing post, which is really, really cool. Okay, so you can do that. But, as far as the off page stuff, I don't know because I haven't done any massive spamming to the GMB websites yet because as I was just talking about in the previous question, the only exterior link building I have done thus far has been from press releases and drive stacks. I have not even thrown any spam link campaigns. We have a [inaudible 00:55:47], right? We have a link building manager who's fabulous, he's amazing at what he does.
I haven't even started testing, sending link campaigns to a GMB asset yet, maybe Marco has, but all I've done is drive stacks and press releases. I just now starting to play with syndication networks and syndicating GMB posts because our auto-posts create an RSS feed from GMB posts. So, I'm starting to test with that a little bit too. I have almost … I said this with RYS stacks, but I've also tested just link building with Google sites, using a software from Peter Drew. I haven't done enough testing there to determine whether that's something I want to add in my standard operating procedure or not.
Yeah, again, since it's a Google property, Marco can probably comment on this a little bit more, but I haven't tested the limit on that. But, since it's a Google property, will likely withstand anything you throw at it. What do you say, Marco?
Marco: I say that I haven't needed to do anything, except what's in the training so far. It's so simple, you just go, you get an asset. You optimize it the way that it's taught, you throw it up, it ranked or it doesn't rank. If it doesn't rank, you can still … The activity will create calls. The way that it's setup will create calls, it'll create activity. That activity, Google starts feeding on it because it starts seeing it. Activity is one of the major factors right now. I keep saying it, are activity, relevance, trust, and authority. Those are the things that will trump anything. I don't care what it is, I don't care what negative aspects there are. If you have activity, relevance, trust, and authority setup in whatever it is that you're doing, it's going to trump everything and Google is going to reward you over and over and over again.
What's Stopping Someone From Creating Thousands Of Websites And GMBs and Renting Them Out?
Bradley: Yep, there you go. Kasey says, “What's stopping someone from creating thousands of websites in GMBs and running them out?” Just time and any other major complications. Yeah, time, that's it. Time and funding and having a team to be able to accomplish that. What do you think we're in the process of doing right now? We're building those teams so that we can do that kind of volume. That's exactly what we're doing, Kasey. That's why I said, the opportunity while … Strike while the irons hot. Right now is the time to do it and that's why I've been pushing for two months now, as far as I have been to try and build a … This in a scalable way. We're training VAs. I've created … I spent weeks developing training videos and process stocks to be able to train virtual assistants how to do this entire process from start to finish.
The pofu live attendees are getting these updates from me in real time. They're kind of helping me with this, right? They're all using our scaling processes to build their businesses. So, we got all these people that are doing this right now and we're teaching some of this in the Mastermind as it becomes refined and repeatable because it's still kind of in its rough stage right now. The Mastermind as it becomes proven, I share this in the Mastermind as well.
That's exactly why, I don't know how long this opportunity is going to last. While it's here, we're going to try and secure as many as possible, right? So, Kasey, the only limitation that I know of right now is your bandwidth, and your funding, if you're going to be hiring it out, right?
Marco: Definitely budget, unless he has his own method of securing GMB assets. 1,000 or 2,000 of them, if you get through us, we're talking about quite a bit of money.
Bradley: Yeah. Yeah. All right, Wayne, last question and then we're going to wrap it up. We're right on time too, so that's perfect. Wayne says, “Realized today that if a prospect in HVAC or plumbing can't get into local service ads, then there's a hell of an opportunity to do what you learned from Semantic Mastery to help prospect.” Yeah, that's true. Thank you, Wayne. So, yeah, if you can't … For example, guys, I know that in our Mastermind, somebody was talking about trying to get one of their clients into the local services ads section, which is what you're seeing here, right? Apparently, it was funny. I think it was Muhammad.
So, anyways, one of our members in the Mastermind said, that there was real awkward conversation with the business owner, when they were trying to explain to them why they should be in local Google service ads. The business owner said that they couldn't be because they couldn't pass a background check. That's funny because that's going to happen, especially if you're dealing with contractors. Trust me, there's a lot of contractors out there that can't pass background checks because of something in their past. I'm totally cool with working with those types of contractors, guys. People make mistakes and they can change.
But, if you can't pass a background check because of something … You've got a skeleton in your closet, you can't get into this section. So, what Wayne is saying is true. That doesn't mean that they're dead in the water, right. DITW, that means that they have … You just have to do other things, like Google Ads or like what we teach with maps, which is Local Lease Pro and Local PR Pro, right? Excuse me, Local GMB Pro. So, there you go. Thank you, Wayne, that's a good point. All right, no other questions, right on time. Hot damn, that doesn't happen very often. Whoo. Cool, and even Adam's still here. Wow.
Adam: About to head out. Time to hit it before the sun goes down, go for a run. But, I want to remind everybody to show up for the webinar on Monday. If you've got any questions about this stuff, I know we talked about Local Lease Pro for a bit today, a lot of questions about it. Whether or not you're a member, show up, go register, come hang out. This is a great way to close out 2018 and really start kicking ass in 2019.
Bradley: There you go. Also, we have a Mastermind seminar tomorrow, for those of you in the Mastermind. So, post your questions through the forum, the Google forum, guys, because we've got a lot to go through tomorrow. So, thanks everybody for hanging out. Thanks, Marco and Adam.
Adam: All right. Welcome, everybody. Whoa, got some feedback there on someone.
All right. Welcome, everybody, to Episode 212; the episode where Hernan tries to make me pull my ears off of my head from the feedback loop. But, no. Welcome, everybody. Today's the 28th. We just wrapped up Thanksgiving last week and a bunch of kick ass sales. I'm happy to say that ours was pretty awesome. We had a lot of people really taking advantage of a lot of the Done-For-You-Services. We had some Local Lease Pro people who hopped in and joined, or rather joined Local Lease Pro. And then, just as always, it's fun to check out how people are positioning offers, what they're being offered. So I'm just curious, if anyone's watching right now, just pop on the page what you bought for kind of the Black Friday weekend; any awesome deals that you came across.
Let's see. Before we go any deeper, I do want to stop and say hello to everybody who's here real quick. We got almost the full team here, so I'm going to go left to right on my screen and start with Mr. Feedback himself, Hernan. How you doing, man?
Hernan: I changed the mic, man, so you don't complain. I'm doing great. I'm doing amazingly well. I'm super excited for today. Thank you guys for the support. It's been awesome. Thank you. Thank you so much for the support that you have been giving to Semantic Mastery and MGYB. They'll go throughout Black Friday and Cyber Monday, so yeah. I just wanted to thank you guys for all that.
Adam: Cool. So I'm curious, you've got some crazy-looking glasses going on. What's up with those?
Hernan: This is a blue-blocking glasses, blue light-blocking glasses. And then, I have my Oura Ring, right now, so I'm full-on biohacking, baby.
Adam: Yeah, you're going to be a Cyborg in like two years.
Hernan: Yeah, in two years, I'm going to have a mechanical arm and stuff like that.
Bradley: Hey. I've got some cool glasses, too.
Hernan: Yeah, they are.
Adam: Oh, my god.
Bradley: I still have those from Halloween.
Hernan: Yeah, that's awesome.
Adam: That's how you hop on consultation calls and put those on.
Bradley: Well, just so you guys know. When I'm not on a webinar, these are my standard glasses. I only wear these glasses when I'm on camera, okay?
Adam: Oh, my god. Moving right along. Marco, how you doing, man?
Marco: Good, man. Let me start it off by saying that, and Hernan I'm going to put you on the spot because Hernan made an awesome donation to the charity. I'm not going to say how much because it should be kept … It's what he did. It's what came out of his heart. But it was extremely generous and it's going to go a long way towards getting a lot of kids into school, getting them uniforms, and books and supplies and shoes and everything they need. So, dude, thanks a ton. That's going to be my intro for today. Just thank you very much and thank … A lot of other people donated, also, so thank you. I'm going to go ahead and post the donation. We'll talk about it in a little bit, but I'll post the link. If you guys want to donate, you're more than welcome.
Adam: Awesome. Yeah, and there's going to be some good stuff with that. We'll circle back on that in a minute, Marco. Bradley, how you doing? Besides your fabulous glasses, what else is going on with you?
Bradley: I'm good, man. Been really, really busy, got a lot of cool stuff going on with the Local GMB Pro stuff that we're doing; or excuse me, Local GMB stuff; kind of incorporates Local Lease Pro and Local GMB Pro and just everything, Local PR Pro. But got all the processes updated and developed for some of the changes that have occurred over the last couple of weeks and I got my VA just kicking ass, now. He's still in training, but he starts actually training another VA on Monday next week and we conversing about it today in Slack and he was talking about how he expects to be able to complete one GMB asset from start to finish. He can do it in about three hours minus the last two processes, which can actually be outsourced to another VA. Because it's tedious, it can be done by a lower paid VA; something that's just repetitive.
But that's amazing because my original goal for him was to have him develop or complete, optimize, soup to nuts, complete one GMB asset in an eight-hour day and he's already told me that he, essentially, can get it done in three. If those last two processes are included, it'll take him five. So, I'm going to pull those last two processes off of him and assign them to another VA; that will be their only job function is to do those two things; and that way he can complete two assets in an eight-hour period, the main VA that's doing this right now. So, he's going to start training somebody next week.
Anyways, it's awesome because we're going to be able to start cranking these things out really quickly. Then, once she's trained, our next VA who's starting next Monday; she's been with me for three years, but she's going to start this new process; then, we're going to start training another one and then another one. And if we can get our VAs producing two assets a day, that's 10 a week. Man, that's amazing. Imagine what we can do with that. And we're going to be providing this as a done-for-you service inside of MGYB once we get a few more VAs trained.
Right now, the VAs are going to be developing or just building out assets for us, for our agency. But once we get a couple more, then we're going to be able to provide that as a service for you guys.
Last thing I want to mention about that is we got Local Lease Pro update webinar. We talked about it on Tuesday, guys. I don't remember. I don't see it in the calendar, though. I don't remember what day it was.
Adam: No, I think I we're going to say the 17th, though. Was that … Let me look.
Bradley: That sounds right, but I looked for it in the calendar and I didn't see it so.
Adam: Yeah, and let's just say it's coming up and it'll be in mid to … It'll be before in the second half of the month.
Bradley: Yeah, so it's going to be somewhere in the middle of December. But it'll be a … Even though some of you might not have Local Lease Pro, I'm going to make that update webinar public. Everybody can attend and I would highly recommend that you do because I'm going to be sharing some information about our updated location research process where we're finding just absolutely an incredible amount of opportunity, right now.
So, I'm going to be covering that. I'm also going to be covering some of the updates on how to do service area businesses inside of GMB and I'm going to make, like I said guys, it'll be 100% public. It'll only be public for like 24 hours, maybe 48 hours, and then we're going to … the only people that'll be able to access it are those that are inside the Local Lease Pro course or that are in the MasterMIND, so I would highly recommend that you make the public webinar if you don't have the course.
And then, lastly, one other thing is I'm going to finally do an update webinar for Syndication Academy. I want to apologize that we haven't had a webinar in three months, now. I was unaware … I knew that Rob was going to take over that; Rob Beale was for me to free me up to work on developing these processes and stuff out for the local lead gen building, asset building; but he's got a shit ton on his plate, too. Plus, he still has a job, so he got over on with it and it really kind of fell through the cracks and so we haven't had a webinar in three months.
I apologize for that, guys. By the time we actually have the next one, it will have been four months. I've got that scheduled one, now, for December 12th. Those of you that are in Syndication Academy, be there because I feel bad and I want to kind of redeem Semantic Mastery for dropping the ball on that. I'm going to host a really, really powerful webinar. I'm not even going to tell Marco what it's about yet because I don't want to get in trouble, but just make sure you're there on the 12th. Okay?
Adam: I was going to say, too, with that, everyone, we're going to be switching that over to more of a on-demand type of updates where as things come up because, right now, there's so much in there that it's not always, hey, every month, there's something we have to add. So we're going to be moving towards, hey, as updates are needed, we can get in there and update processes and whatnot.
Bradley: Yeah, I think what we'll probably do is have scheduled quarterly updates, so every three months. But if something comes up, obviously, that needs to be addressed, we'll have an additional webinar.
Adam: Cool. Well, real quick I wanted to touch on a few basis, before. We got two major topics we want to tell everyone about and that has to do with … Well, we'll get to that. I'll just tease it in a horribly poor manner.
But if you're new to Semantic Mastery, first of all, thanks for watching. If you're wondering where to start, this is the place to start. Come to Hump Day Hangouts, ask us questions, get to get your answers; it could be digital marketing, it can be anything. If we don't know the answer, we'll do our damnedest to point you in the right direction. And while you're at it, pick up the Battleplan. All right? It's battleplan.semanticmastery.com. All right?
It's our processes. What we use when we need to do something, here's the process that we use. All right? And if you feel like you're beyond that and you're ready to take things up several notches, come join our MasterMIND. Right? You've already heard Bradley talking about that and I'm going to kind of segue into something we wanted to share with you guys.
We might have mentioned it before, but the way to do a small group MasterMIND, some MasterMINDs a lot of people, but within that, every quarter, we group people up if they want to and get them into groups of roughly four to six people. We group it by kind of what your interests are, are you doing more … Obviously, local digital marketing is our strong point, but there's some people doing … maybe they do that, but then they have affiliate marketing, so we group people up.
And this is really powerful because not only do we participate in them from time to time … I haven't this quarter. But, Marco, I believe you're in a group this quarter. Right?
Marco: We got an awesome group, man. We cover a bunch of things that aren't generally covered in the MasterMIND simply because you just can't.
Marco: Right? You can't focus on the needs of three or four people when you're really talking to a whole group of people. But in these small MasterMINDs, the great thing is that I got a couple of people who went to POFU Live and one person, I mean, who is really eager to get going, to get crushing, and he's just doing a whole lot of things.
As a matter of fact, I think he's the one who shared the Ghost Browser video, today, in the MasterMIND.
Marco: Yeah. He's contributing and this is what happens, so you give. And I don't know if people are aware or not, I think I've said it before; we charge a whole lot of money for a consultation. I mean, just a whole lot. So imagine, we're doing four hours a month, five if it's a month with five Mondays, which is … excuse me, Tuesdays, which is when we meet.
I would charge $6,000, right, for those five hours. But as a benefit of being members of the MasterMIND, they get five hours with me that they don't pay for. It comes because they're members of our MasterMIND and it's just great; we go back and forth, it's accountability, it's things that you have to do. And, really, we come back, “These are the problems that I run into,” and everyone pitches in and they give advice and they say, “Hey, try this. Try that.”
So it's been a really good experience even for me because I'm thinking, “Okay, I'm going to have to go and do everything.” No, it's not like that at all. Although, I do give a lot and I give a lot of advice; consultation, of course; but, really, it helps me because it helps me see what other people are struggling with, where they're being successful, what's happening, and it's been really enjoyable. It really has been.
Bradley: Yeah, and I just want to add to that real quickly because I'm not in one of those small group MasterMINDs right now because I'm hosting a weekly webinar with the POFU Live attendees for 12 weeks, which is essentially a quarter. It's very much like a small MasterMIND, except this one's got about nine members. But, yeah, same thing.
We host … I just did our weekly meeting just an hour ago; right before Hump Day Hangouts, I had a meeting with those guys and it's great because … We set up a separate Slack channel for it. The guys in there, some of them are contributing.
Grant. Grant, I can't thank you enough, dude. He created a process for how to take the location research for GMB assets for identifying potential opportunities and he did something really cool, which shows how to import the data into My Maps, which then shows you … it plots all the map pins for each location. It's just amazing. It's going to save so much time determining which assets to secure.
Something like that was invaluable because it's not something I even thought about doing, so I was doing it a lot more of a manual way, which was very, very tedious. Then, Grant came in and was like, “Oh, yeah. Check this out.” Boom and he sent this … and dropped a screencast video in there. It was just like, “Wow, man! That's just going to save me a ton of time.”
I've said this before, we learn as much from our MasterMIND members as they learn from us and that's no lie, guys. So, again, if you're … We highly recommend you come check out the MasterMIND, guys. It's so much more than just marketing training or SEO, so much more than that.
Adam: Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah, please come join and we've got some awesome stuff in the works for our MasterMIND members. Obviously, that's kind of a continual thing, that's where we're able to focus a lot of our time and attention. But for current members and people who are thinking about joining, we got some really good stuff coming up real soon, so stay tuned for that.
Before we hop into questions, Marco, I believe … Well, you mentioned the donations. If you want to mention the charity and then tell people … They can give from the goodness of their hearts and we hope people do, but I think that if they donate in the near future, there's kind of a reward. Right?
Marco: Yeah. I mean, I'm planning to do a webinar and it's going to be awesome. I'm going to give some stuff away. If you're a buyer of Drive Stacks, I recommend that you go. We've done one, already. It's in the can and you can have access to that and all you have to do is donate. I'm not asking for a specific amount. Whatever comes from your heart, I mean, that's good enough.
If you donate, then I'll put on the list and you will be invited to that webinar. It's to going to be a public webinar. Sorry. It's going to be just for people who donate to the charity. I've added the URL where you can go and you can donate. If you've already donated, of course, I will take you into account and invite you to the webinar.
It's going to take place on December 10th, so you have until December 10th to donate and get invited. So there you go.
Adam: Outstanding. All right, guys. I think that wraps up. Did I miss anything?
Bradley: No. I think we can get into questions, so I'm going to grab the screen.
Marco: Let's do it.
Bradley: Let's do it. Shit.
Does It Trigger Duplicate Content Issues If The Google Site Have The Same Content As The Main Site?
No, Greg, duplicate content is a myth. Duplicate content is only an issue when it's on the same domain. Okay? It's only an issue when it's on the same domain. The reason I say that is because consider anytime when brands publish blog posts. What do they do? They go share their blog posts across social media. They republish them on other locations. That's perfectly normal. In fact, it's expected.
Something else, press releases; incredibly powerful. I absolutely love press releases. I use them all the time. It's my favorite off-page method for link building. So, again, press releases are exact duplicates of the original press release. One press release gets published in One Cable or News Wire or whatever you want to call it and then, it gets picked up and republished by dozens or hundreds, often times many hundreds, of other publications. Right? And it's the exact same content. Press releases are incredibly good for SEO. I mean, again, it's my favorite off-page link-building tactic.
So if duplicate content was an issue, how come that doesn't occur in those. So, again, just to school you and I'm not trying to pick on you, Greg, but just be aware that the only time duplicate content is … the only time it's duplicate content is when it's on your same domain. So if you were to republish the same article multiple times on your domain, your money site, that could cause Panda problems; duplicate content issues, but you're not going to have that problem if you are republishing in other locations. Especially, if you give attribution or site the source, which is what you're doing with the Drive Stack. Right? The Google site and all of the files and folders and all of the stuff that we add content to are going to be linking back to the money site, the source. So, no, it's not an issue.
How Long Does A Google Site Rank For Its Main Keyword In SERPs And Local 3 Pack?
Number two, “After several SERP pages, eight and counting, I still cannot find the client's website for the main keyword. I realize this is not much time, but when can I expect to see them start appearing in the search results for that keyword. Also, not seeing a local 3-Pack box appear; local real estate niche. Why would that be?”
Okay, so the first part of your question is, yes, it's only been 15 days. Drive Stacks have a tendency to not show results for a period. It varies depending on the keyword, depending on the competition level. I've had some Drive Stacks that really showed no improvement in SEO for five or six weeks and then all of a sudden, boom, to number one.
I am not in any way suggesting that that's what you should expect. Okay? But the first Drive Stack I ever built was for Virginia SEO, right? It was to promote my own agency and it was a test. It took about six weeks. I didn't see any results at all. I saw a bunch of dancing, but nothing significantly positive for five or six weeks and I actually just stopped looking. I stopped checking after a few weeks, like three or four weeks or two or three weeks or whatever, because I wasn't seeing significant improvement.
Then, after, like I said, six weeks or so, I was like, “Huh, I wonder how this thing's doing?” I went and I searched it and, boom, it's been number one since May of 2015 for Virginia SEO and Virginia SEO agency and SEO agency Virginia and SEO Virginia; all these different types of keywords and it's number one in Google Organic ever since May of 2015. Right? Again, it was like six weeks of nothing. And then, boom, it shot to number one and it hasn't moved since.
Again, results are not typical. I'm not telling you that that's going to happen for you. Especially, because you're targeting real estate keywords, which I'm going to let Marco talk about that here in just a moment, but real estate keywords are incredibly competitive. That's one of the reasons I don't like working in SEO in that industry. It's incredibly competitive.
So, it's only been 15 days. That's not near enough time to expect results, number one. Number two, real estate is an incredibly difficult keyword. Any type of real estate is tough. The SEO competition is tough because you're dealing with extremely aged and high-authority type websites, such as Redfin and Weichert and Long & Foster and Century 21 and Zillow and all these great big … Oh, I think Trulia is another one. These are all these big sites that are really authoritative and they're very, very difficult overcome in Organic. Okay?
The last part of that question, when you say about the local 3-Pack not appearing, I'm not sure why that is. Depending on what you're location is, sometimes a 3-Pack will not appear for certain queries. However, I know I've done this multiple times, sometimes just publishing a press release promoting the business with the NAP; the net name, address, and phone number; can get a 3-Pack to appear.
I've proven that multiple times with several of my own clients who are lead gen sites where I've been able to force a Maps Pack to appear or a knowledge panel, which is even better. Right?
A knowledge panel is when a Maps Pack doesn't appear, but the big knowledge panel on the right side of the search engine results page shows for that particular company. When I've used queries with local intent that should force or should call a 3-Pack but it didn't, then I published a press release; again, we've got a course called Local PR Pro that teaches you how to do that or you can just buy a press release and promote your company and often … I'm not saying one is going to do it, but I know that a lot of the times I've been able to force the 3-Pack to appear or a knowledge panel from just one press release. Sometimes it takes two or three, but most of the time I've been able to accomplish that with just a press release.
Marco, do you want to comment on that?
Marco: Yeah. This is one of those questions that kind of gets you and it's not great. This is one we get time and time again. Hyper-competitive, real estate; hyper-competitive. Doesn't matter if it's local. It's hyper-competitive.
It reminds me of that guy in Toronto. I did two posts in my IFTTT for a DUI attorney in Toronto and I'm not appearing at number one. Why?
Bradley: Yeah, he said, “This stuff doesn't work.”
Marco: Well, yeah. “Your stuff doesn't work.” First of all, Greg, did you get the Done-For-You user's guide? And I hope you're live, so that you can answer my question, because I really need to know if you got the guide. If you got the guide and you read it, then you know that there's a 21-day period where your stuff is going to dance all over the place before it starts settling and Google starts figuring out where all of the relevance that you're feeding both to your money site, to your maps, and everything else is going to go.
I specifically talk about that in the user's guide because once that happens and according to what happens after that time is what you're supposed to do. There's a ton of things that I recommend in that user's guide. Everyone who has a Done-For-You, an RYS Done-For-You Stack, should get the user's guide. It's standard operating procedure and if you don't get it, then I'm going to track down the VA who did that and I'm going to jump on his or her ass for not doing the shit the way that I require it, the way that I demand, the way that it's supposed to be done, so you guys are served correctly, so that you know what you can expect from these Stacks.
One Stack in real estate may not be enough. It may be that you have to add … Well, I'm not going to get into what you have to add. By the way, donate to the charity and you'll know what it is that you have to add to your Drive Stacks to make them even more powerful, to start targeting more keywords, how to target them, and how to get it to power up. But I really need to know if you got the user's guide and if you did get it, then my question is going to be why didn't you read it thoroughly so that you understand everything that's going to happen and that you're still within the 21 period where sometimes you'll pop to number one, then you'll see it disappear. It'll come back and it'll disappear.
If you SERP watch during those 21 days, you're going to need to drink a whole lot because you're going to drive yourself crazy. You're going to go bananas. Ask Daryl Dressel, one of our most successful people with Drive Stacks. This is where he was, just watching SERPS and until, “Oh, my god. It's nowhere to be found. Oh, it came back. Oh, it's nowhere to be found. Oh, I lost traffic. Oh, I gained traffic.”
And I said, “Dude, you got to stop.” You got to stop watching SERPs. Let it marinate. Once it hits, watch where it hits, go from there. It's all in the Done-For-You user's guide, dude, so check that out.
No, what we recommend is that you're blogging from your money site through a syndication network. That's a really good way to add content and to, excuse me, build relevancy, start getting more impressions from more keywords, all that kind of stuff. But, Marco, do you suggest adding additional content to a Drive Stack after it's done. What do you suggest for that?
Marco: Well, that's one of the things that we're going to get into during the webinar, during the webinar that we're going to do for the people who donate. We're going to show them exactly what you need to do to power them up so that they become … they're just ranking machines.
It's not just one thing. Okay, you get a Drive Stack hyper-competitive and you expect it to rank. There are other things that you have to do. It's in the user's guide, also.
Bradley: It depends. There are variables, Greg. That's what we're getting at because I never did anything else to the Drive Stack for the SEO Virginia and that's the truth, guys. When I first set it up, I did one PBN blast from my … a PBN that I had that I wouldn't … I would've never linked from that PBN direct to a money site because it was after penguin and after a lot of PBN stuff had happened. They were PBNs that were not set up without a footprint. In other words, they were … Basically, I was using them for video syndication stuff and that was it.
But I did a blast. I think I did 18 links to a PBN that was toxic. No shit. It was okay for videos, but I would've never linked to a money site with links from that PBN because of the footprint issues. Yet, that was all I did and I think I did a SyndWire blast, which was a bunch of Web 2.0 auto stuff, and that was it. And it still, to this day … Watch it make a liar out of me. Right there, Google Sites. And, look. Because it's picking up my local IP, it's actually picking my agency up and putting a knowledge panel.
But, I mean, again, all different types of keywords around SEO Virginia, SEO agency Virginia, all that and it's been number one since May of 2015. Go look at Backlink Analysis on this Google site, guys. You'll see that I'm not building links to this damned thing, right? And I haven't. It's just been number one ever since and so, again, sometimes a Drive Stack will give you incredible results with no additional work.
Results aren't typical, but many times you're going to have to do additional things. You can do things like build links to the Drive Stack, publish content. There's a ton of other things that you can do that obviously is beyond the scope of a Hump Day Hangout. Okay?
Good question though, Greg.
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Marco: By the way, before you go on, Greg is on. He has not read the Done-For-You user's guide, but he said he's going to read it and try to understand the terms.
Bradley: There you go.
Marco: So, yes, please. By all means.
Bradley: Greg, remember, you have … Every Wednesday, you can come back and ask us additional questions here. If it's something that is too specific that we can't answer in a public setting, we'll direct you to the proper paid group. But, otherwise, we've got a lot of people that have come here and started building their business by just asking questions in this public forum here on Hump Day Hangouts.
Then, once they've reached a certain level, they've come joined some of our paid groups. You're welcome to come here and ask questions, Greg.
Marco: I'm getting messages that people have donated. I've added my email, my personal email, [email protected]. Drop me a line and I'll add you to the list so that you can be invited to the webinar.
What Is The Proper Way To Manage Multiple GMB Locations?
Okay, great question. I'm glad that you asked this because if it was unclear or fuzzy to you, it was likely unclear to others, as well, so I'm glad you asked this question.
Okay. What I was talking about specifically was mainly if you're building lead gen assets, guys. Remember, if you're building lead gen assets, they're spammed. They're black-hat locations, assets, right? I mean, let's just be real clear about this, guys. I know people think spam is a bad word and all that, whatever. It is what it is and that's exactly what we're doing.
When you're building lead gen assets that aren't for a real, bonafide, genuine business, you're spamming. Right? Period. Okay? So that's number one.
When you're doing that, when you're spamming, you got to be real careful about footprint issues because if Google finds out you're spamming in one property, one location, and then can connect the dots between other locations, you could lose them all. We talk about mitigating risk or reducing exposure. All the time I talk about that, guys.
I have gone over and above, way beyond the normal protocol for trying to hide footprints when it comes to my business because I have lost a lot of stuff over the years from not being adamant or vigilant about hiding footprints. And because of that … Guys, I hate rework. I can't stand it.
I like building assets that produce for me long term. I don't turn and burn. I don't like short-term assets because I've learned over the years to take extra precautions to eliminate or reduce exposure.
What I'm talking about is when you're dealing with lead gen assets, guys, I almost recommend just only logging in and managing the GMB asset from the original owner account. In other words, when you set up a new GMB or, if you're smart, you buy it from us or from another provider, whatever, you're going to get a new Google account. Or it could be an aged account, whatever. It's going to be new to you. A new Google account that is the primary owner of that GMB asset.
What I recommend you do is that you use a browser keeper app, like Ghost Browser or Browseo; I use Browseo, personally; but use a browser keeper app and open a new project, like a new browsing instance for that particular Google account. Log into it, even if you bind it to your own IP; you don't even need proxies for this, guys. I'm telling you, you don't even need proxies for this. Just log into it through a browser keeper app like Ghost Browser or Browseo and now, that browsing session will remain logged in no matter what. Even when you shut down the application or the software, either one, that Google account will still remained logged in.
It's like that device is always turned on, right? That browser's always on and so now, you just constantly do all of your updates, your optimization, everything through that account. And the reason I say don't manage … I'm recommending not to manage through a manager account for lead gen assets is because the manager account creates a connection between one account and other accounts.
Does that make sense? And so I'm saying … Now, just to be 100% transparent, I still am using a manager account for location clusters. In other words, if I go to a particular metro area and I find 10 locations that I secured, so I set up 10 different GMB assets for that metro area, which is like a city. Right? And the suburbs, the surrounding suburbs. If I set up 10 locations, right now, I am still testing with being able to manage those through a manager account because I've had manager accounts terminated in the past and it didn't affect the individual GMB accounts because they were owned, I'm using air quotes, but their primary owner was a separate Google account.
But what I'm saying is if you're … Just to be clear, Randy, if you're dealing with real, bonafide businesses, none of this matters. You can just connect to those GMBs through your profile, or through any profile really, as a manager and you're perfectly fine because those are all legit businesses.
Google's not going to punish you or those businesses for managing real live Google My Business stuff, unless you're doing something stupid spamming. Right? And then, if you as a manager gets punished, it's not going to affect that GMB asset because it's owned by somebody else or a different profile, right?
A manager account can be terminated if an owner account … Well, excuse me. A manager account can be terminated and it won't affect that GMB. It just basically means that manager can no longer access it because the account was terminated, but the GMB is still live and the primary owner account can still access and make edits and blah, blah, blah. Right?
The point is you don't ever want to get an owner account terminated. However, when you're dealing with lead gen assets, which are black-hatted assets, guys. They're spammed addresses. Then, I recommend not even using a manager account, even though as I just fully disclaimed I am still using a manager account. But, guys, let us do the testing.
If I come back in three months and say, “By the way, we've got assets that we're managing through a manager account. They're black-hat assets that we're managing through a manager account, we've been dealing with them for months now, and they're producing well and we haven't had any termination issues,” then, I'll let you guys know. But for right now, I'm telling you you're probably better off just using a browser keeper app; Ghost Browser, Browseo, one of those, or any one that you choose; and just logging in and always doing your optimization work through that primary owner account.
It's a little bit of an inconvenience, guys. But what's more of an inconvenience? Having to go into each individual asset account when you're doing any work in it? Or losing all of your assets because you left a footprint? Which is more inconvenient? Right?
You all know the answer to that, so my point is if it's black-hatted stuff, I would recommend that you stay within the individual, primary owner Google account anytime you're doing any work.
If you're doing work for clients, which are bonafide businesses, then absolutely you're not going to … I don't ever recommend that you ask the client to get their Google account login details. That's silly. Don't do that. That opens you up for liability if something happens to their Google account.
What you would do in those cases for clients is tell the, “Here's my email account,” give them a tutorial that shows them how to go into Google My Business and click on users, and add you as a manager. Does that make sense? Then, that makes it easy for you to be able to access their locations through your account, make edits to them, and do whatever else you need to do. And since they're bonafide businesses, as long as you're not … even if you do something really spammy, since you're just a manager, it would affect you and not them.
Well, I mean, it might affect their listing. But what I'm saying is if your account got terminated, God forbid … I couldn't imagine my Google account, like my primary account, being terminated. But if it did, it wouldn't affect my client's businesses. Right? It would just remove me, prohibit me from being able to access them. Anyways, I hope that was clear.
The last part of that that I want to mention is one thing you don't ever want to do, and I know this because I lost a cluster of locations for Atlanta for tree service stuff just two weeks ago, and that is do not, guys, I'm telling you do not use GMB location groups. That's something you'll see where you can actually group locations together in Google My Business.
If you go to manage locations, you'll see that there's a location group dropdown and you can create location groups. Don't do that because I started to test that and I lost a whole cluster of sites in Atlanta that were 100% fully optimized, so don't do that.
So, great question and again, guys, that's what we're here for. I'm not telling you guys don't test stuff on your own. I'm just telling you we do a shit ton of testing here and then, we always share the results with you guys to prevent you from losing a bunch of stuff. Right? Great question, though. I really like that question because I'm glad that … Again, if it was unclear to you, it was probably unclear to others and hopefully, I clarified it.
Is Local Lease Pro An Updated Version Of Local GMB Pro?
Great question, Larry. No, Local Lease Pro is the … Yeah, that's the more current course. In other word … Let me rephrase that. That is the newer course. They're both current. The difference is Local Lease Pro is how to build, go out and find easy opportunities for securing local GMB or Google My Business assets to build your own lead generation business that then you lease those assets out to local businesses. Right?
It's about finding easy or low-hanging fruit opportunities, right? That are going to take little to no optimization work to start producing results. Okay? So what we're looking for is low competition stuff and Local Lease Pro teaches how to do all of that. The location research part of it is really important and that's what we're going to be updating in two weeks when I do the update webinar and that, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of this webinar, guys, is going to be 100% public. Everybody can come see it, so you can learn about the location research there, or at least the updated process. It will only be public for about 24, maybe 48 hours, and then you have to be a member of the MasterMIND or in the Local Lease Pro course to be able to see that once we turn it from public to private.
Anyways, the local Lease Pro business is about that. Local GMB Pro, that's about how to take GMB assets that are maybe in more competitive areas and how … It's like the advanced GMB or Google My Business training, so if you want to break it, boil it down into the REader's Digest version, Local Lease Pro is the beginner, is for people that are looking to get started in the lead gen business. Local GMB Pro is the advanced training. That's for when you have GMB assets that aren't producing as well as you would like them to do. You apply Local GMB Pro methods and they will start producing. It's for those uber competitive areas that you're having trouble getting results for maps listings or, yeah, Google My Business listings and by applying the GMB Pro training, you'll be able to get … or the methods, excuse me. By applying the methods, you'll be able to start getting better results from them. Okay?
So, again, Local Lease Pro's the front end. Local GMB Pro is like the advanced training for more competitive stuff. Okay?
Marco: I would add that sometimes in Local Lease Pro, you're going to get something stubborn that refuses to move. You'll apply Local GMB methods and the sucker just moves. If it doesn't, you hit it with Local PR Pro.
Adam: Local PR Pro.
Marco: This stuff goes hand in hand because you hit it with Local PR Pro. If that doesn't do it, then you hit it with the-
Adam: With the normal [crosstalk 00:38:57] Stack.
Marco: Right, the Drive Stack. And behind that, the Local PR Pro, so that you stack the press releases into the Drive Stack, which is going into the Local PR Pro … excuse me, the Local GMB Pro methods, which is going to the Local Lease Pro method and it just becomes just this awesome … I don't know. It's a nuclear missile aimed at whatever it is that you're trying to rank for and I know people that are ranking in hyper-competitive stuff. You guys met Gary, right?
Marco: And he's taking on and I'm not going to mention his metro area, but he's taking on a metro area and dominating the websites that you were just mentioned. What was it? Trulia?
Bradley: Trulia and, yeah, all that.
Marco: Excuse me, Trulia and RE/MAX and Century 21. You name it and he's dominating them because, I mean, he's driving so much power. What we're talking about here, for lack of a better word, because I don't want to use anybody else's … whatever they call it, whatever they call power. I call it power. It's power that we're generating, guys, and we just show you how.
Bradley: Yeah, and last thing I want to mention about that is it's funny because when we talked about … It's kind of weird, but for years, the first step was always build a WordPress site. Whether it was a lead gen asset or for a client, either one, I would always build a WordPress site and then, the very first thing I would do would set up a syndication network. Well, now it's funny because now I'm not building WordPress websites at all unless it's for a client and they want it. But for all my lead gen stuff, I'm not building any WordPress websites.
Why? Why go through all that trouble and hassle buying domains, setting up posting, building it out, content, silos, all that shit. Don't need all that stuff, man. We can get results using the Google My Business assets, the tools that they give you and they're free and they're easy to set up. Right?
So what's funny is I used to always build syndication networks. It was like first step out of the gate after the website was built. Well, now, syndication networks are the last thing that I add to a lead gen asset from starting with the Local Lease Pro method, start there. Then, if I have an asset that needs the additional push, I apply Local GMB Pro methods and then if it still needs an additional push, we do Local PR Pro. Well, to be 100% transparent, standard operating procedure is I use press releases for everything I do anyways, so I'm already implying a press release to the asset to begin with.
If it still needs additional push, then we'll do a Drive Stack. And if I still need a push after that, I'll set up a syndication network for it and then, set up through our GMB auto poster, we get an RSS feed from the GMB posts, which then I can start syndicating my GMB posts out to a branded network for that lead gen asset, which will absolutely get results. So that's like the final nail in the coffin if I need it. You know what I'm saying?
So it's kind of funny because it's transposed. I used to always do the syndication networks first and now it's the last damn thing that I add, which is funny. It's not because they don't work. It's just because it's a lot of additional work to set them up and it's not something that's needed for the lead gen assets unless it's uber-competitive. Right? So, it's funny how things change.
How Does A Single Tier Syndication Network Help In Ranking YouTube Videos?
All right. Well, the single-tier syndication network, typically, those … I wouldn't recommend a single-tier network for YouTube syndication. I would recommend a full two-tier network because with YouTube syndication, guys. There are no footprint issues if your using the networks the way that we set them up or if you're building them yourself, if you're using the applets the way that we recommend them, okay? There's no footprint issues with that.
All you're doing is you're acting as a publisher for Google when you republish YouTube videos in other locations, so you can get as crazy as you want, stack as many networks as you want on a YouTube channel, and the only thing it's going to do is add power. Right? It's not going to harm your video. I've never had a single video hit from syndicating a video through syndication networks. I've never had a penalty or sandbox or anything. Okay?
Now, I have when I've had videos syndicated with the full description from the YouTube video because you know how we like to spam YouTube descriptions, guys? Come on. We all do it, right? Well, if you syndicate the video with the full YouTube description, that can cause problems and I've had Web 2.0 accounts shut down for that. I've had money sites terminated for that. I've had all kinds of shit happen from that.
But with YouTube, like I said, because you don't have any footprint issues if you're using the networks the way we set them up or the applets the way we have developed them, right? Then, you can stack as many networks as you want.
One single-tier network is typically what I recommend for blog syndication and that's because we create a branded network. Everything is themed and branded for that company, the business. Right? And that makes sense because if you're syndicating content from your blog out to your branded profiles, you're telling the world, you're claiming your footprint. Right? It's like you're putting a great big red flag right down in the middle; your money site being the middle; and saying, “Hey, this is me and this is me everywhere and here's … or, “This is us. This is us everywhere. This is our content in as many places as we can,” on your branded profiles, why wouldn't you announce or republish your content on your branded profiles?
But for YouTube, yeah, if you have a YouTube channel, I would make the first syndication ring or network branded for your YouTube channel. Right? Your YouTube channel can be a brand, so make it a branded network. But then, you can start adding second-tier networks, which are persona-based networks that are non-branded networks. You could add additional first-tier networks that are triggered directly from YouTube, right? That are persona-based networks. Perfectly fine to do that.
You can even go out and add third tiers and fourth tiers. I don't recommend that because there's a lot of chaining that goes together that could break down and then you lose the power of anything down stream if that makes sense. That's why I always stuck with just two-tier networks because they were easier to maintain. But, again, Larry, what's powerful about it is … Oh, I'm sorry. Not Larry, Herman. What's powerful about these are that whenever you're publishing the YouTube video and syndicating them out, that axis embeds and those are kind of like … It's almost like a back link, right? For a YouTube video. It's not quite the same. It's different than a backlink, but it's similar. It's like a vote, right? It's saying hey.
There's things that you can do to improve the power of your syndication networks, like build links to them, have themed, relevant content on them. There's a whole bunch of other stuff that you can do with those, too. But, again, guys, there's no better way … Well, the best thing for YouTube videos for ranking right now is engagement, period. There's no doubt about that. Traffic and engagement to videos can absolutely rank a video, but syndicating videos and embedding them still helps a lot. Right? And that's something that syndication networks 100% automates.
He says, the last part of that is, “I have several Web 2.0 sites and social media properties that I also post to manually.” Well, a lot of those sites, again, if they're Web 2.0s that can be triggered by IFTTT, then you can set syndication network applets up to also syndicate directly to those, so that you don't have to do it manually anymore, Herman. I would recommend that, plus there are some other services and plugins, WordPress Plugins and things like that that will also syndicate to some of the things that IFTTT doesn't connect to. So, you may want to look into some of those apps, too, if needed. If you already have a bunch that are built out, I mean. Okay, it was a good question.
Marco: Yeah. Before you go on, I'm just glad that you mentioned branding because what I use in and for now … Yeah, I'm like you. I stopped using WordPress and now, what I do with the networks, I use them to validate and solidify the entity. I'm all after the entity and that's what it helps. I don't really care if I push my content anywhere because Google is going to take it anyway, right? From the way we do Local GMB Pro, so Google's going to see it. Google's going to see it and act on it, but I do want all of my entity everywhere so that it helps to validate and solidify the fact that this is, A, a real entity on the web and that there's something solid behind this entity.
Bradley: Yeah, and that's true. I mean, even if you're not syndicating content to it, just having a syndication network can help to validate an entity, which it's a great signal for Google.
What Should You Consider When Changing The Address Of A GMB Listing?
Okay. Well, there's a couple things going on with that, Ken. Number one, if it's a service area business where the customers do not come to the business location, you can click to clear the address now from GMB. In fact, that's the recommended procedure from Google.
In other words, if your business, and I don't know this, but if your business is a service area business where the business goes to the customer's location; so, for example, contractors typically and that's primarily what I work with is contractors, so most all the things that I work on are service area businesses; and this just changed within the last three weeks. Now, if you have a service area business, you go in and clear the address.
If you have a verified profile, all you have to do is go into the info tab, you click on the address section, and then there's literally a link in there that says clear address. You click that button and it will wipe it clean. And then, you click okay or apply or save or whatever it is and it will literally remove the address from the listing entirely. And that's fine because you've already verified the profile and then you set your service area by zip code or city name or county name or however you want to do it. You can set your service area, which is how you're supposed to do it.
Now, if it's a point-of-sale business or a storefront business, which means customers come to the business's location, then absolutely you're going to want to display your address. But what I have found, I'm not going to tell you that it's not going to trigger reverification for sure because I don't know. But I can tell you that I have changed … I've got a client, literally, that on Monday, I just changed his physical address. He's a painting contractor and he moved locations. He moved from one side of the city to the other, so his zip code changed, his street address changed. Phone number stayed the same, web address stayed the same, and obviously, company name stayed the same, but the street address changed and the zip code.
I just changed it and it didn't trigger reverification, okay? Because it's a verified address or a verified entity business, a Google My Business profile and because of that, Google didn't … Now, if it's a new listing and you do it, it's more likely to trigger reverification. I'm not saying that it's not going to re-trigger or trigger a reverification, but I have changed the address for established listings on many different occasions. Not the same business changed it multiple times, but I've changed many different businesses one time because they were established businesses and they moved locations and it didn't trigger reverification, if that makes sense.
And a lot of the times, if it's an established business and it does trigger reverification, it's just a phone verification and it's not an actual postcard thing. So I would not worry about it, Ken. If it's a service area business, you can remove the address entirely and it's not going to hurt anything. You don't even need to put the new address in in the GMB dashboard. It's not even going to ask for it. But if it's a storefront, then, yes, you're going to want the address, obviously. But I would just go in and change it, period. Just go in and do it through your manager account.
I'm assuming you're connected through a manager account. Just do it through your manager account and if it triggers reverification, then do whatever it takes to reverify it. It should come back immediately once it's re-verified because it's an established business. Okay?
“Should I make the change before the 6th or wait to the move?” I'd wait to the move. Don't do it until … The day that they move, change it. All right?
“By the way, Bradley, glad to be back. Been away for about a year and a half.” I thought I hadn't seen you in a while, Ken. “Wasn't sure if I would ever be able to do this, again.” Well, I'm glad you're back, Ken. You've always been here and ask lots of good questions, so we appreciate you coming back.
Is One Branded Network Enough To Power Up A Business Loan Niche Site?
Yeah, I just do one branded network now, Israel. And, again, it's just because … The stuff that Peter taught back then, it absolutely worked and some of what Peter taught went into the development of what I came up with, which was originally called IFTTT SEO Academy, but for various reasons, we had to change the name to Syndication Academy. Yeah, that was one of the ingredients that I mixed in to make my recipe of Syndication Academy and that was some of the stuff that Peter Garety taught and it worked.
I don't recommend doing that kind of stuff now, though. And the reason why is because of footprint issues, right? The footprint issues are much more … Google's much more aware of footprint issues, now. It's much easier to identify footprint stuff and Google doesn't like that. Where back, several years ago, I mean, we're talking like 2012 and '13 timeframe that Peter Garety was teaching a lot of this stuff, it wasn't as much of an issue then. Okay? So that's why I say … Not only that, but you know, obviously, if you've done it, how much work goes into setting up all those networks and then connecting everything all together.
I know he's got some tools that help to facilitate some of that stuff, but I found it to be overly complicated to set all that stuff up. I know because I did it for a long time and that's why I developed my flavor or my version, which became Syndication Academy because it was much more efficient. It was a lot less work. Does that make sense? That's the only reason … Also, I like the fact that it didn't require a paid software or application on it. You could just use the IFTTT, which was free. It wasn't resource heavy like some of the plugins that Peter Garety would use to force the syndication.
IFTTT runs off RSS feeds, so it was not taxing at all to the server, your website servers or hosting company. So, there's a number of reasons why I developed Syndication Academy to replace that kind of a method. Is it still relevant? I wouldn't do that kind of stuff now just because of footprint issues. Are syndication networks still relevant? Yes, absolutely. And if you're developing decent content for your site and syndicating it out, it's going to help.
I don't overly optimize … I don't write content, anyways. I have a team that does it, but none of the content that we produce is overly optimized ever, ever. It's more about the activity and just building up an overall relevancy factor for the website, so we don't have to uber optimize or hyper optimize any particular piece of content. It's not necessary because we're painting an overall picture about what the site is about, right? And through multiple posts, so it's not necessary to uber optimize one particular piece of content, which we can accomplish over a series of pieces of content within a silo or whatever, however you want to do it.
So, again, a syndication network, one branded syndication network, guys, I'm telling you. That is all I do for my clients and for my own assets. YouTube, I use multiple syndication networks. But for all the stuff that I manage, guys, one branded syndication network per asset, period. And it's so much easier to manage, guys. I'm telling you, it's so much easier to manage.
If you guys want to go through all that additional work, please do. But I like to get results with the least amount of effort possible and the least amount of resources and a one branded syndication network is all I do for all my clients now and have for the last several years, now. Okay?
You can power up … By the way, Israel, you can do a lot of things to power up that branded network, right? And there's other stuff that I recommend now that are going to help. Local PR Pro would help you a lot, the Local PR Pro method. Using press releases consistently would help you, I promise you that because they're very, very powerful if you know what you're doing. Okay? A Drive Stack would help you there, too, by the way. There's a lot of stuff you could do.
Should You Use Multiple Local Sites To Rank A Business Loan Site Or Should You Stick With One Main Site??
So I would recommend you get Local Lease Pro and start applying that method to your business right now, today, because I don't know how long that method is going to work. Google is going to close that loophole, guys. I don't know when, but it's going to be closed so take advantage of it now while you can. Okay? Good questions, though.
So, Syndication Academy would help you. YouTube Silo Academy, it's seven bucks, seven dollars. Go search YouTube Silo Academy and go pick it up; seven bucks, that will help. Add some syndication networks in, which you can purchase from … I mean, you can join Syndication Academy and learn how to do it yourself. Don't recommend that. You're better off just ordering Done-For-You Syndication Networks, so you can work on creating videos. Right? And building a business instead of building the networks and all that. Honestly, you're much better off just doing that, but that's what I would recommend. Get YouTube Silo Academy, so you can learn how to silo your channel. It's really, really powerful, guys. And then, start buying syndication networks and stacking them on your YouTube channel. Okay?
Why Is Firefox Not A Good Idea TO Use To Keep Live Profiles?
Marco: Yeah, I mentioned this before. Sometimes in those profiles what happens is you lose your cookies. I don't know why and I don't know how to fix it, but we tried it. We tried it because we were working on automating some of our Syndication Academy so that we could go in and do the profiles and it was just a mess using isolated containers. But, I mean, try it. Try it and see if it works for you.
Bradley: Yeah. Yeah, I've never used those, but I've heard other people have talked about using them and I'm assuming they do something similar. But, yeah, I would just test it, Ken. I prefer using … I bought Browseo when it was … you could buy a lifetime license, so it doesn't cost me. I think it's monthly now, but that's why I use it. Other people, I know, so they like Ghost Browser. Whatever, just find one and use it. That's what you need to do, Ken. I'm telling you. You don't even need to worry about proxies anymore.
Guys, if you're a tinfoil hat kind of guy, you can worry about proxies, but you don't even need proxies because it's absolutely normal for multiple devices to be connected to an IP; sometimes hundreds or even thousands of devices connected to a single IP because of public wifi. It's no longer it's an IP issue. It's a device now and by logging in through a browser keeper app, and that's just what I'm calling them, then you're logging in through a specific device that remains logged in. It doesn't matter what the IP is because it's the device that matters. Does that make sense? And it matters to accrue a history and that's what you're doing with those kind of apps. If you can accomplish the same thing with Firefox, Firefox profiles or whatever they're called, I think, yeah, that it should work.
We're out of time. God damn, we … Pardon my language, but we got a lot of stuff that we didn't get to today, guys. Holy crap. I can stick around for about nine more minutes. I got to cut it out at 5:10, so if you want to hang out with me, Marco, I'll answer a few more.
Marco: Let's do it.
Can You Maintain Rankings If You Keep The Content, URL Structures And Navigation After Redesigning The Site?
Jordan, I'm going to say no and the reason why is because I have done that in the past where all I've changed was a theme and then, obviously, the design elements had to be changed, but none of the content and none of the URL structures got changed at all and I've still seen dancing. Usually, it's just a very short, temporary dance because the structure of the site … what I mean the coding has changed. Even if the structure remains the same, the CSS, the way that the theme was coded, all that is different, so it takes Google a little while, kind of like Google goes, “Ah, what do I do with this?”
And then, it takes a few days or couple of weeks, maybe even the 21 day period that we typically see, but then it settles right back in to where it was originally. So if you're number one, you're going to end up number one. But what you see dancing, I'm going to say yes because I've seen dancing from just changing themes even though nothing else was changed.
Marco, what do you say?
Marco: I totally agree because I've redesigned and only the look. Right? No structure, no URL, no nothing, links, whatever. And, yes, because the CSS has links, right? You're linking to the CSS, so it communicates back and forth on what the website is supposed to look like and it's going to be different. That's what throws Google-
Bradley: The code is different [crosstalk 01:02:39].
Marco: Like you said, yeah. Yeah, it throws Google for a loop and then it comes back.
Larry's up again. He says, “I just finished the two hour webinar.” Yes, it did, Larry. Unfortunately, it did. But if you join MasterMIND, which is 300 bucks; 300 bucks a month; but if you join MasterMIND, Local Lease Pro is the first course you get. If you're … I don't know if we've talked about pathways, yet. I don't know if we talked about the POFU pathways yet, but if you're just starting your business and you don't have any digital marketing income coming in yet, we're going to suggest a one-path and Local Lease Pro is the first thing you get and it's 300 bucks as part of the MasterMIND membership.
By the way, you get a whole lot more than just Local Lease Pro for $300 as part of the MasterMIND. Or you can buy it for $1,000. Unfortunately, by the way, we did just have a Black Friday sale for that for 500 bucks, but that sale's over.
Yeah, I apologize for that, Larry. The reason it went up so much is because, I'm telling you, I have not seen an opportunity in local digital marketing like I … The Local Lease Pro method is by far the biggest, best opportunity I've seen in local marketing since I started in 2010 and that is no bullshit, guys. I'm telling you, the Google … In July, when the mobile-first algorithm took affect, when Google switched to mobile index first, right? It opened up this opportunity, which is what Local Lease Pro is developed around, that opportunity.
And, again, I don't know how long it's going to last, but it is hands down the biggest opportunity I've seen in local digital marketing since I started in 2010 and so the value is there, man, regardless. Okay?
Hey, we sold it for a ridiculous price originally for that Side Hustle Toolbox because it was a collaborative thing and, honestly, it was a mistake to have done that. But we wanted to get it into as many hands as possible; of our audience, especially; so that's why we did it. Okay.
Jeff's up. He says, “Hey, guys. I'm looking at giving myself the gift of the SM MasterMIND for Christmas.” Oh, wow. Can I write Santa and tell him to bring it to you? That's awesome, man. He says, “I figure it will be a gift that keeps on giving long after Google's next algo update.” That's right, Jeff. Because whatever happens, we're going to figure out what to do next. We always do.
“Is there a waiting list that I need to get on or can I simply sign up and start participating?” No, you can just sign up. That's great, Jeff. We would certainly love to have you, man, so please come join us. That's awesome.
Ray's up. I got five more minutes. Ray says at Jordan, “I am not a pro, but a redesign.” Okay, thanks. Ray is answering for Jordan talking about moving … changing themes or design.
But the ones that I do, I always recommend Drip, drip.com, which is Leadpages auto responder and email automation tool. I absolutely love it. It does incredible things. Their automations are fabulous; they call them workflows; and you can do amazing things with it and it integrates with so many other applications out there, it's unbelievable. I absolutely love Drip and I tested four or five different auto responders when I was doing … I mean, I was heavy prospecting for almost a year. We're still prospecting now because we got … But, anyways.
Long story short, I tested a whole bunch of different auto responders and Drip was the one that was inboxing into the primary tab in Gmail. And it was the only one out of the ones that I tested that the emails would automatically go directly to the primary tab in Gmail. A lot of the other ones would get put to the promotions tab or some issues would go through to spam folders and stuff like that depending on your domain; if you're sending from a domain and that kind of stuff. Drip was the one that always inboxed.
Now, that's just my preference. I know we as a company, Semantic Mastery, for our stuff, we use ActiveCampaign I think as our primary one, now. But we've also done a ton of other different kinds. I am not a huge email marketer. So, like I said, I found Drip. It works for me. I've been using Drip ever since, so about a year now; maybe a little over year, I've been using Drip and I absolutely think it's fabulous. Okay? But I know ActiveCampaign is I think our primary email service or auto responder for Semantic Mastery, so that might tell you something, too. And I don't think anybody else is on that can talk about it. No, because Marco doesn't do the email stuff either.
Jordan says, “ConvertKit,” so check into that, too. I've heard good things about ConvertKit, too. I think we tried it for a company for Semantic Mastery, but I don't … For some reason, I know we ended up with ActiveCampaign.
Okay. I'm going to answer this last one for Ralph and then we're going to wrap it up, guys. I apologize for anybody above us, but that's why it pays to get your questions in early. All right?
Ralph, I don't know. It could be that. I don't know, but it could be that because we had one of our MasterMIND members was talking about, and one of our new members, John; the one that is in Marco's small group MasterMIND. We were just talking about him earlier.
Anyways. He had something similar happen with some GMB assets and he was keeping … He had somewhat of kind of a spammy name with the city name and stuff in it, too. I don't know if that's entirely it. I know that that can trigger. Names can be spammy, right? And if they are spammy, that can be a red flag, which means anything else that could be an indication of spam could cause it to terminate. In other words, just having a spammy name might not be enough to terminate the account. But having a spammy name and then having some other thing that is an indication of spam could be enough to cause it to terminate. Right?
So what I'm saying is when you say you recently set up GMB listings with different Gmail accounts, which Gmail accounts did you use? Did you buy them? Did you create them? Because if you created them, did you create a footprint when you created them? Or did you buy them and if you bought them, the Gmail accounts that you used to create the GMB assets, were there footprints for those?
We know because we've been using email service providers … or excuse me, email account providers to buy email accounts and we found that Google is getting way better at determining spam accounts. As soon as you start trying to build assets on a spammed Gmail address; like in other words, a Gmail address that was created with a footprint; then, they get terminated.
They're find as long as you don't do anything with them. But as soon as you start doing YouTube stuff or GMB stuff or Google site stuff, they get terminated. Right? And so, that's why I'm saying it's really important that you either find a good provider for your email accounts or you know how to set them up on your own if you're creating them yourself.
So that could be an issue. It could be the name. I don't know what else to tell you. It could be, also … You said separate Gmail accounts, but depending on are you clearing your browser? Are you using a browser and then you clear all the cache and cookies and then, log into the next Gmail account and the next GMB asset and start optimizing? Because if so, that's another footprint. Right?
The footprint is clearing the browser and starting with a fresh, virgin browsing session every time you log into the next Google account and you're doing it from the same IP unless you're using proxies, which that, again, I just said you don't need to use proxies anymore. But if you're clearing your cache and your cookies between every browsing session and logging into a new account, you should have proxies because, otherwise, everything is being tied back to your one account and all of the activities … oh, excuse me, your one IP; all of the activities are spammy-looking activities because who besides spammers and SEOers clears their cache and cookies after every browsing session? Nobody, guys. Nobody does that.
That's why I'm saying … Ralph, I'm not saying you're doing any of these things. I'm just giving you some common things that I see that people do that causes problems and those are all things that you can look at. So best thing to do is find a good email provider or learn how to create your own emails without footprint issues. Use a browser keeper app. We just talked about Ghost Browser or Browseo. Use something like that, so that you always keep logged in to the session for each Google account. And then, I would also think about switching up your name a little bit.
You don't have to add the location name … the business in the … the location in the business name, guys. You don't have to do that, right? Come up. You can even use just this Fun and Play. Fun and Play could be it, period. Right? Fun and Play, you could use the same name for each asset. It doesn't matter. As long as the physical address is different, the phone number is different, and the URL is different, it doesn't matter if you have the same name. Okay?
Marco: And if there's no storefront and you're targeting the way that we teach to target, right? There's no need for Orlando because Google already knows that it's Orlando, that it's Winter Garden, that it's Miami, that it's whatever the freak it is in Florida. Google knows because you told Google because of the way that we set it up. I'm not going to say it here because it's in the training. It's in Local GMB Pro and it's in Local Lease Pro and that's just the way to do it. There's no need anymore, guys, for Orlando because Google is going to know what it's all about.
And then, you're going to reinforce it with the post. If you're posting, you're going to reinforce all that. Right? From the images that you add and the way that we teach to add the images, so that's just my two cents on that.
I think you're absolutely right. There's absolutely no need for a location anymore.
Bradley: That's awesome. Okay, cool. Guys, sorry I couldn't answer all the questions. We had a lot, today. A lot of engagement from you guys, today, so we appreciate that for sure. We love it when you guys come and ask us a ton of questions. It gives us something to do. All right, guys. Thanks, everybody, for being here.
We do have a MasterMIND webinar this Thursday, excuse me, tomorrow. And we got a new member, Dave, who has just been incredibly engaged in our MasterMIND asking a shit ton of questions. A lot of those will be answered tomorrow on the MasterMIND webinar.
Anyways. Come join us over there, guys. Otherwise, we will see you next week on the next Hump Day Hangouts, so thanks. Thanks, Marco.
Adam: All right, we are live. It is the special pre-Thanksgiving Humpday Hangout. Today is the 21st of November 2018. We're going to go real quick and say hello to everybody. I'm Adam and I'm doing good. I could feel that people are asking me how I'm doing, so I'm doing well, but let's start on the left and work our way down. Chris, how are you doing today?
Chris: Doing good here. Happy that I survived the lettuce epidemic in the States.
Adam: I didn’t even hear about that.
Chris: [inaudible 00:00:32].
Adam: What's going on? Somehow, I must have not been reading the news.
Chris: From what I've heard, there's some E. coli infection on many kind of lettuces here and pretty much removing them all and like you're in danger if you eat it pretty much.
Adam: All right, so I’ll [inaudible 00:00:53].
Chris: Somebody has died already.
Adam: Turkey and mashed potatoes I guess for the next couple of days.
Bradley: Moral of the story is don’t eat rabbit food.
Chris: Yeah, exactly.
Adam: Hernan, how are you doing today man?
Chris: I'm doing great. I am at a café, which should have Internet, but I didn't want to miss today's episode. I'm here, I'm good and I'm excited to be here.
Adam: [inaudible 00:01:14]. Marco, how about yourself?
Marco: Great, I spent the morning at the charity, getting things together for 2019. I mean we have to gear up, right? We have to get the ball rolling. We'll talk about it in a little bit, but that's where I spent my morning. It's really enjoyable.
Adam: Nice. Bradley, how about yourself?
Bradley: I'm well, especially because I get to wear my turkey hat.
Adam: That's awesome. I just saw the little picture of you when we logged on, I was like, “What is on his head? That’s amazing.”
Bradley: [inaudible 00:01:43]. I only get to wear this once a year and I love it. I figured the best way to start Humpday Hangout today was to make a fool of myself, so there you have it.
Adam: Outstanding. Man, well, we got a lot of stuff going on, but one thing we want to tell you real quick, just saying we wanted to come up with something great for this time of year with Thanksgiving in the States, with the classic kind of Black Friday stuff going on. Last week or the week before or you guys can correct me, we had the GMB Verification [inaudible 00:02:15]. We wanted to get something super valuable out there before everyone gets inundated with the noise, but we've brought our own awesome sales. I'm going to put that on the page. I'm pulling it up right now because there was a ton of stuff we had.
Syndication networks, I shouldn't have talked too much about those guys, like Marco said if his dog sticks around too long or sits too long enough, it gets a syndication network. Same thing for all of your projects. We got the RYS Stacks as well, press releases and then, a really special deal on Local Lease Pro. Okay, so for those of you who don't know what Local Lease Pro that launched with the Side Hustle Toolbox, if you missed out on that opportunity, it was a hell of a deal, but we got a half-off deal going on over the weekend here. Then, along with the Syndication Networks, the RYS Stacks are all half off. Then, the press releases is a 30% off, which is super awesome and that's all done for you press releases. It's written for you, it's all taken care of.
Marco: No keyword research?
Adam: There might be something coming later, so stay tuned. We got a couple things coming, so make sure you just check out the emails. We know that not all of these products or maybe you're using them all right now, but check out the emails we're sending out over time. We might have some specials coming up that you want to take advantage of that are of limited time. Now, it's time and with these, you can go. Marco, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all of these, you can go and purchase them and then, if you want to fill out the information, like you can do it in a week or two, right?
Marco: Yeah, we don't mind. We try to give you as much support as possible. We try to make it as easy as possible. Of course, you can't wait six months because we don't know what's going to happen six months from now. Go in, buy it, take advantage of it and then, when you have all the information together, you come back and you submit it, we don't mind.
Adam: Speaking of this, you guys with the holidays coming up and we're going to be doing some more special stuff with Marco and his charity, especially over Christmas, but Marco, I know you were just talking about it. You kind of want to kick that into gear. I think you had a few things you want to say about that, right?
Marco: Yeah, well, it's supplies, uniforms, books and shoes for kids. Guys, if you're not familiar with my charity that's what we do. We try to provide a venue, so the children who wouldn't otherwise be able to go to school have the way to do it. The way to do it is we pay for everything. It costs us $200 per child per year for them to go to school, but they don't just get uniforms and books. They get sent on their merry way. Throughout the year, what they get is they get support. We go every Saturday into the community and we give them tutorials. We tutor them in whatever it is that they're having trouble with. We help them with their homework.
We help them prepare for exams, so that they can be successful. I mean I know from experience that education is what's going to get them out of poverty. Guys, I was one of these kids, okay? One of these kids that came from absolutely nothing. When I say nothing, I mean just not having anything to eat. When was the last time that you saw that kind of poverty where you literally had nothing to eat? This is what we're talking about. This is why we go in there. This is why we're so busy at this time of year because we the school year in Costa Rica starts in February, so we have to gear up now, so that we can get everything ready for when they start school. That's what we do.
I was looking at numbers we have, literally tens of thousands of people, who are either members or follow us or know us or check into our hangouts, we get hundreds of views. If everyone were to contribute five bucks, we could send so many kids to school for a year and give them the support and the tutoring. Most of it is done through volunteers guys. We don't touch a penny of what you donate for administrative or anything else. We give the money to the kids. It all goes to support them and to everything that they need. Not only that if they're successful through high school, they even have a grant waiting for them, so that they can go to technical school because there's a high demand for people with technical skills.
Not everybody can be a manager. There’s in fact too many managers. They want people who go in and hook up a server and do the structure and the cabling and do all that. That's the kind of people that we train. There's that. We do have a college and universities scholarships by the way for those who want to pursue that. There's a whole structure built up for these kids, so that they have a way, so that they don't have to become the next drug dealer, the next pimp or even the next prostitute because that happens too or the next kid that's hooked on drugs and it's done. I mean your life is literally done.
Guys, I'm reaching out to you. If you can, I'm going to post the donation page, please five bucks. I mean a cup of coffee at Starbucks. That's all it takes for you to help out and help us send as many kids as we can to school. We're trying to send 300 this year, so that's a whole lot of money at 200 per.
Adam: That’s awesome man.
Adam: That's a lot of kids.
Adam: Cool. All right, well like you said, Marco is going to put it on the page. If you guys have any questions about it, feel free to reach out. Of course, we want to get the ball rolling on that, so we can hit the target like Marco said. If you're just joining us, first of all, thanks for watching. Obviously, we are Semantic Mastery. We want to point you in the right direction. You're in the right place already. If you're watching and you got questions, whether it's general digital marketing, it's SEO, it's about our done for you services, it's about building a team, whatever it is, let us know and on this page and it's updated every week. You can always go to semanticmastery.com/hdquestions. If we can't answer it, we'll certainly point you in the right direction. If you're wondering where to get started with us, it's the Battle Plan. You can go to battleplan.semanticmastery.com and that is the recommended starting place. We tell everyone to go, even people who are joining the Mastermind, but speaking of, if you're looking to take things up a few notch, you want to either start your own agency, you want to grow, you want to expand then that's the place you want to be is in the Mastermind.
Speaking of Bradley, do you want to share a little bit of what's been going on there? I think we got some stuff coming up too, right?
Bradley: Yeah, well, if you can take me seriously while I'm wearing my hat. Yeah, we just had another Mastermind webinar last week. We've covered pretty far in depth or in much detail about the new, like some of the things that I've been learning as I'm scaling out the GMB asset building, lead gen asset building campaign. You know what, doing it at scale, you start identifying things that you wouldn't see if you were just building them one at a time or a couple at a time. For example, like GMB manager accounts, there are some potential footprint issues if you connect all of your GMB assets to one manager account. I found that out kind of a hard way, but I wanted to talk a lot about that and kind of how we're mitigating that risk now, reducing our overall exposure. We also talked about some of the new changes as far as and also kind of strategy for how to group and manage multiple GMB assets, which is going to be … It becomes more difficult obviously the more you scale the business.
Our target goal for the POFU Live attendees, which was to reach 50 GMB assets, fully optimized and ready to be monetized by the end of 12 weeks or 90 days. We're in week 3 now, so we've still got a lot of time to go. What's interesting is at the end of that 12-week period, all of the knowledge and everything that we've learned, not just from what I'm developing, but from what the other members are, I think there's about 9 or 10 other members in the group that are also building. Several of them are sharing stuff like Grant is one of our members. He's been just adding a lot of value to the group because he's been adding additional information about how to streamline some of the research process. That's great. That's fabulous because I can't do it all like the stuff that I've been developing and sharing with everybody and the Mastermind is getting bits and pieces of it now.
What I was going to say was at the end of the 12-week period, we will have a much better, much more polished and refined process that then we're going to reveal entirely to the Mastermind members, so that our Mastermind members can go out and start building their lead gen business at scale as opposed to this hit or miss or this very like slow, linear type of growth. We're talking about exponential or geometric growth because when you get the hell out of your own way and stop being the bottleneck in your business that's when you'll really experience growth. That's what this is all about is about scaling it and putting people in place and training them to do the entire build-out for you, even the research part of it really.
I'm really looking forward to that. There's just a ton of stuff that we've got going on in that group and we're sharing. As it becomes a bit more polished and refined and I find stuff that's new that's when I share it with the Mastermind like we did just last week, so a lot of good stuff going on there guys. As I've said this before, I think there's the more opportunity right now in local marketing and lead generation than there ever has been, at least since I've been in the digital marketing space. I think right now is the opportunity or the best opportunity to take advantage of it. That's basically what we've been covering in the Mastermind a lot.
Adam: Outstanding, good stuff. Let's get into it. I was just making sure we had no last-minute announcements, but if we're ready, let's get into the questions.
Do You Need A Website To Dominate Google Maps Or Having A GMB Site Will Do?
Bradley: Okay, I'm going to grab the screen, I mean do that now. We've got a lot of chatting going on in that Slack group, so I got distracted. Let's get into it. First things first, David Jackson says, “To dominate Google Maps, do you need to have a website or can you dominate with just a GMB site?” No, you don't need a website, not from your Google Maps, you don't. In fact, all the assets that I'm building right now, I'm not building a website at all, other than the GMB website, which is free and it's available inside the GMB dashboard. It's a Google property. What I recommend that you do is if you're not planning on building a self-hosted website, which you don't need for maps guys, then I recommend that you still use the GMB website, which is part of the Google My Business, the tools that are available to you in the GMB Dashboard, so use that. Optimize it well. Add posts and photos and things like that. Put your NAP and the text body of the GMB website. List your products and/or services. Try to make it relevant, put a well optimized article in there. All of that helps a lot and then, publish the website and then, assign that as your primary website for your GMB listing. Okay that's the best thing that you can do.
Bradley: A lot of people have self-hosted websites and you could use those. I'm just telling you, I'm not building them. Why go through all that hassle of setting up WordPress and theming it and all that kind of crap if you don't need to? Honestly, for my lead gen business right now, I'm not building a single WordPress site.
Marco: To dominate in Google Maps, all you need is a verified Google My Business listing, which you can get from mgyb.co.
How Do You Report SEO Deliverables And Results To The Client?
That's a great question Mohammed. Okay, so what I would recommend that you do rank trackers, no, I don't think they're valid anymore. I mean they can give you an indication, depending on the rank tracker. The whole mobile-first algorithm thing really threw rank trackers off. I don't think they're all that valuable anymore. I still do use them for some keywords, but it's more or less just to get an idea of what kind of where the sites or the or the pages for the keywords that I'm looking at or I'm trying to optimize for our tracking, I don't expect them to be real accurate. Again, I still do use rank trackers, but I don't send those reports anymore as the primary metric for showing progress or lack of progress or whatever, showing the status of a marketing campaign. I don't use rank trackers as the primary metric anymore. It might still be included, but again what I'm stressing now is analytics and search console and GMB Insights. Those are the three things that I stress and the reason why is because like for example in GMB Insights, if you're adding content, you're publishing regularly, you should see month over month an increase in overall impressions as well as overall actions or engagements. Even on months, where the actions and engagements haven't increased, you should still see overall a rise in impressions if what you're doing is helping.
Now, obviously you can reach a certain level, where you're pretty much maxed out or you're not going to see much growth. In other words, if you start optimizing and I'm talking about specifically just GMB Insights right now, I'll talk about Search Console here in just a moment. With GMB Insights, I've noticed that if you're starting out with a new listing or you're optimizing a previously poorly optimized listening that you should see significant increase in metrics or impressions and/or engagements and actions during the first few months or a couple months or whatever, the first few months of actually optimizing that profile, again whether it was a new profile or an older profile that just wasn't optimized or very active. When you start adding engagement and activity, you'll see in a significant increase in impressions and ultimately, you should see an increase in engagements as well, actions and engagements.
Then, eventually what happens is even if you continue to improve and stay active, what I've seen over time now is that a lot of listings or businesses, clients that I have, they'll stop seeing like massive growth on a month-to-month basis because you kind of reach a level, where it's almost diminishing returns, but you'll continue to see the engagement staying consistent and though very plus or minus a certain percentage every month, just depending on the month and also depending on what product or service it is that [inaudible 00:18:47] some stuff, seasonal and all that kind of stuff. That's Insights. That's one metric that I or one report that I use to show.
One thing you can do Mohammad is just take a screenshot like at the start of the campaign of the GMB Insights and mark your calendar to remind you, like set a calendar reminder in Google Calendar or whatever to remind you every 30 days to go in and take another screenshot of GMB Insights. Then, save all of those files into a folder, so that then you can put them side by side and say, “Month one, month two.” In month three, you can even add month three to it or you could just go month two to month three or you could have month one, month two, month three. You see what I'm saying? You could put the screenshots together side by side to make like one image and you can show the growth of the metrics, like impressions, number of calls, number of clicks to website, number of driving directions if it's a point-of-sale business, so those are all things you can do.
The same thing goes for Search Console. Search Console, especially the new dashboard, like the newer-
Marco: Hey Bradley.
Bradley: Go ahead.
Marco: Before you move to Search Console, let me just finish up on the GMB Insights because what you could do is you make this activity based. You're going to see that the Insights shoot up and then, they might level off. What you have to make the client understand is it's your work that's doing this. It's your post, it's your images, it's your videos. It's your optimization, it's all of the activity that's taking place in the GMB that's making this happen and you also have to make it clear that if this stops, in order to maintain, once you reach that whatever saturation level is, in order to maintain it, in order to keep that coming, you have to keep posting. You have to keep up the activity because we've seen it time and again that if you stop the activity, then all of a sudden everything just goes dead in the water man. You'll see this a drop. It's incredible the way that the activity just simply drops and it becomes almost nothing. You have to warn the client.
I mean if you were in the Mastermind, I'd be more than happy to share screenshots that you could share with your client of what happens if you stop. That's one of the things that you could really focus on because it's activity driven. It's something that you have to do time after time after time. It's repetitive and the report is basically always going to be the same. I post it, I added images, I optimize, I add a new keyword targets and then that ties into what Bradley is going to go into, which is analytics and Search Console, which is directly affected by your activity in Google My Business. Let me just turn it over to you Bradley.
Bradley: Yeah and so for Search Console, the same thing, especially in the new dashboard or the new interface. The first thing you see is when you click into the search analytics portion is you're going to see impressions and in clicks. The same thing, take a screenshot of when you start the project and the same, it's just like you did with GMB Insights, so you do this all the same day, whatever. Then 30 days later, you can take another screenshot and what you should see is the impressions significantly go up because if you're content marketing, so essentially blogging from their website, you'll start seeing the impressions will continue to climb up and up and up. It's because the site will start being discovered or being given impressions by Google for additional keywords. If you're blogging and your content marketing from the site because that's what Search Console is connected to, right, the money site, the self-hosted site. Your blogging, what will happen is you'll see that as you're content marketing, you'll see month over month, the impression level continue to increase, going up. That's because you'll start getting more impressions for more keywords.
Now, something to keep in mind though is if you click that box to show the average rank value or rank position, average position, as your impressions rise, you should actually see your average rank position for the most part. A lot of the times, get worse. The reason why is because although your site is being discovered and Google is showing it for more keywords, a lot of the keywords that are giving the site impressions now aren't necessarily optimized well, like there's not necessarily pages optimized well for that particular keyword that Google is giving an impression. When it records where the position was, it's likely going to be a much lower position. The only reason why I'm telling you that is because I've had clients ask me when I sent because I send Search Console reports every month. That's part of my client reporting process and I've had clients say, “Well, I can see the impressions going up.” I've explained that that means your site is being discovered for more and more keywords, but they've said, “But, I see the average rank position is going down, like it's getting worse, why is that?” I've had to explain that. I just kind of wanted to point that out to you because it's likely a question you're going to get. I've had that question come up multiple times. You just explain that.
The idea is with Search Console especially, you can find really good keyword opportunities there for stuff … Sometimes, you'll find new keywords that you hadn't even been targeting before or you'll find opportunities just by looking at what the average position is for keywords that would be good keywords for conversions for your client. Those would be keywords that now you can start optimizing for and it'll show you right in Search Console, like which pages or which keywords and what the position was that it ranked. You can identify opportunities there to go in and optimize. Again, those are just two. Analytics is the same thing. Analytics, you just take screenshot every month and you can show month to month, like the overall increase in traffic. You can also show, for example, like more traffic coming from social media, if you're doing content amplification, syndication and amplification, although I typically don't really stress the social media metrics much. I always push the search metrics and PPC or paid advertising metrics, if you're doing that too.
Again, those three things are primarily the most. Again, I still send a rank report. I use BrightLocal as my rank reporting for all my local clients. I still send that but I've made my clients very aware as to why I don't rely on those anymore and those really aren't the best KPIs or key performance indicators anymore as the rank trackers. That was a great question Mohammed. If we were going to be giving away stuff for winning best question, I think that was a great question.
Do You Know Any Sites Like Marketers Center's Press Release Distribution Service That Do Not Purge?
The only time I ever saw a measurable improvement from social signals when it came to SEO was when they were tiered social signals. In other words, if there … There was one service that did that well and that was actually Dan Anton service. I don't even know if he still has it, but if you have tiered social signals, in other words, like for example, you have a blog post. Let's say that you got three Facebook shares from there, like likes is typically not worth a shit for SEO, but the Facebook shares can actually help with SEO. If they're random accounts that just don't have a lot of friends and things like that and it's a share, Google understands that that share is basically a spam share, it's a spam share because that profile doesn't have any connections. It's not a real profile. Who on Facebook shares a shit-ton of content and doesn't have any friends? Just spammers and SEOers, right? It's useless.
Now, if their second tiers, in other words, if the first tier share, then gets liked a whole lot and engaged with, if there's engagement on that share, so in other words, the profile that shared the content, the link to your blog post, if now that person's or that profile that persona’s Facebook share gets engagement by way of likes and comments and additional shares, then I saw measurable movement in SEO. That's the only time. In other words, if you have social signals alone were useless. Social shares were useless, but social shares that then were backed up with social signals, those had a measurable impact. Does that make sense? It's very difficult to find a service that will do that. Most services will just signal your content or the URL that you tell them to signal.
What I mean by signal is plus one-ing it, liking it that kind of stuff. A share would be a share or a retweet or grabbing the link and posting it somewhere else, but even shares alone were basically useless because most of the profiles that they were shared to were spam profiles. It was clear. It was only when there was engagement on the shares that it would actually make anything that it could be identified as movement. That's a good question, but again I would recommend just … Unless Social Shotgun service does two tiers, which I don't know because I don't know about what included with the service, but unless it does two tiers, I would say it's probably not going to help.
Does anybody want to comment on that? No, okay, moving on. Dan's up. Dan's got a slew of questions here, but I saw some of these earlier and some of these should be directed to SerpSpace and not us, but let's go through this.
How Do You Remove The Avada Builder Short Codes At The Full Text Feeds Generated From The RSS Feed Plugin?
Adam: Yeah, [inaudible 00:30:39]. The reality is that people are using it left and right with different themes and different [inaudible 00:30:44] conflict with some themes and some plugins, so that's something that you need to have in Dan. Just contact Avada and see what they say.
Bradley: What I'm saying is with the Thrive Themes, I've seen it do that even not using our RSS plug, but using the Yoast attribution or the RSS attribution part, even using that it would still do it. Yeah, it's the theme itself that's injecting it, it's not the plug-in. He says, “I found this video from 2015 as a shortcode exclusion feature and yeah and for some reason, it didn't post the URL, the full URL. Anyways, the version of this plug-in I have doesn't have several of the features you talked about in this video. Is it possible to send a link to the latest version of your RSS plugin?” It's probably Dan, I don't know this to be true because I can't see what video that is, but there's a lot of additional features in the plug-in that's available to the Mastermind members.
The free version doesn't have a lot of those other features, so I'm assuming that's probably what you're talking about. You're probably, again, I can't see which video you're talking about, but if it was showing the features of the RSS plugin for Mastermind members, which is the premium version, it's free to mastermind members, but you can't buy it outside of the Mastermind is what I'm saying. I'm sorry we can't give it to you. You got to join the Mastermind, but other than that like I said, I would just contact the theme developers and find out if there’s something that you can do.
How Do You Improve The Formatting Of Feeds That Are Automated From Syndication Networks?
Well, there is a footprint when your syndicating to your own branded network, but it's an okay footprint. It's perfectly acceptable. It's actually expected because all most or most companies when they publish content, they've republished it on all of their branded properties. They link to it. They share it, so it's absolutely normal to do that. What's not normal is when you have second tier and even third tier networks or even other first tier networks that are also re-syndicating the content because that's unnatural and that's clearly being done to manipulate search positioning. That leaves a footprint. Google doesn't like that. It's fine to do that with YouTube guys, but it's not fine to do that with your blog. There is a way to minimize, to reduce your footprint and that's by injecting related content feeds into the other syndication networks, primarily the second and third tier. I don't recommend having other first tier networks anyways.
My point is that's part of the reason I don't like using them. One, it's complicated to set up. Two, a lot of things can break down because you're relying on RSS feeds from outside or third-party sources and you don't have any control over maintaining those feeds or the formatting of those feeds. You have very little control over that. There are some tools out there that can help you to format them better and splice feeds together like RSS Masher, which is by Damon Nelson. That's a good tool for prettying up feeds and splicing feeds and all that kind of stuff. Again, like I said, I don't recommend it because it's a pain in the ass. Using a third party feeds guys, there's a lot of things that can occur. You don't have any control over the formatting. You don't have any control over the frequency that they publish.
You don't have any control over the content that they publish. You are just assuming that everything that they're going to be publishing is going to be relevant. Unless you're using a feed splicing tool or application kind of like RSS Masher, where you can set filters, you can set some of the formatting options and things like that you really are limited. At least if you're just syndicating to your own branded network, you have control over that because you're syndicating from your blog that you have control over the formatting, the styling and all of that. You can control that or at least some level of control, but when you're using third-party feeds from other sites for adding additional content, there's not much you can do about it.
Okay, all right, another one, he says, “I ordered a network management package …” When you're talking about network management, you must be talking about SerpSpace Dan. You're going to have to contact SerpSpace support. We're no longer associated with SerpSpace. Just contact their support and they will answer whatever questions you have about the network management. I'm sure they didn't direct you to Humpday Hangouts for that but just go contact them and ask them, they'll be able to square that away.“Sorry guys, tried asking support for all these questions, they said for syndication networks, what is the point of posting to these? Are these profile links indexed or indexable?”
Marco: Yep, Bradley, before you answer that Dan, the reason why you're directed here is because the VAs in mgyb.co have a directive from me that they are not to answer any SEO or marketing related questions because they're not experts in the matter. They're VAs who are taught to follow instructions to the letter. That's what they do. It's not that you're being put off or sent off or passing the buck. It's just that we don't want them answering questions that maybe they're not qualified to answer that they could answer wrong that they could cause maybe harm if they were to answer. That's why you brought here because we're supposed to be the experts. Although, sometimes I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, but we try.
Are The Profiles And Links In the Syndication Networks Indexable?
Bradley: Then, the last question was, “What is the point of posting to these? Are these profiles, links indexed, indexable?” He says, “Bitly, Gravatar, Evernote, OneNote, Pocket, appreciate it.”? All right, guys stop with worrying about and Dan, I'm not picking on you, I promise, but stop with worrying about whether links get indexed or not, who cares guys? Look, I'm telling you Google can recognize links, whether it decides to index them or not. Trust me, Google's crawling those links. As long as the link is there, the target URL, what it's linked to is going to pull some authority from that site. There's some PageRank passing. There's some metric there, link equity that is passing through that that you are siphoning from that site so to speak. Trust me, whether it's indexed or not, I know there's another question about press right above it from Kay Dee about press releases being indexed. Guys, again stop worrying so much about links being indexed.
Here, I can prove this to you beyond a shadow of a doubt. If you have your money site and you're syndicating content to syndication networks from your money site and you have your money site connected to Search Console. You go to the left side of the site, depending on whether you're in a new interface, the older interface, whatever, go to where it says, “Links to your site,” and you'll see guys. You're going to see wordpress.com and blogger.com and you'll see however Gravatar. I don't know if you'll see OneNote links in there or not, but you'll see Pocket sometimes.
What I'm saying is even if they're not in the index, Google is showing you in search console that it's aware that those links are there, pointing to your site. We have done tests, where we have proved with no indexed PBNs, PBNs that we set to no index, so private blog network sites set to no index have moved sites that when we've linked from no index PBNs to pages, web pages, we've experienced movement. We know for a fact that Google is still crawling those links, whether it chooses to display them in index or not has no bearing. Now, don't get me wrong, I believe an indexed link might carry a bit more weight, but that doesn't mean a non-indexed link doesn't carry any weight. Does that make sense? Does anybody else want to comment on that because maybe explaining it from a different angle would help.
Marco: No dude. That was perfect. Sorry Hernan, I'll give you the floor in a second. No index, do follow, all that matters is the fact that that link is a follow and the link equity will flow, so that when you link build to all of these properties, which you should be doing, keep it clean. Keep the links that you build to it nice and clean, nice and powerful. Our guy [inaudible 00:39:37], he's awesome at link building. He knows exactly what to do, but what you want is the link equity flowing from these domains, picking up as Bradley said some of that authority and trust. I'm not talking about third party. I'm not talking about domain authority. I'm talking about strictly going after Google's PageRank and ranking score algorithms. That's what I'm talking about. That's what we're after. If you do that then you're good to go. It doesn't matter if it's indexed or not because the link building and if you get activity in there, the art of art, which I'm always talking about that's what's going to matter. Go ahead Hernan.
What's The Ideal Time Frame To Re-submit PR Links For Indexing Via Press Advantage?
Bradley: The same applies to you KD for your question, which is, “Hey guys, just a quick question regarding Press Advantage. What's the ideal time frame to resubmit PR links for indexing?” Well, I'm going to tell you right now, I don't submit any of the links for indexing at all, not even one time, not even the first time when I get the report back. The reason why is because it's unnecessary. Most of the PR sites, the media sites that the press releases get published to are crawled regularly by Google anyways because they're constantly publishing and because they're media sites. The Google bots live on those sites. They're constantly being crawled. There's really no need for you to submit. It's just additional step, it's basically you're putting additional effort into something that's really not going to make any difference because Google is going to be crawling those sites anyways. They're going to see your links and part of the reason why a lot of those press releases don't get indexed is because they are duplicate. Don't let me throw you guys off when I say they are duplicate, it's not a duplicate content penalty guys, but if Google sees …
Remember, Google will put things into what it calls the Supplemental Index. The Supplemental index doesn't mean it's bad. Just because something's in the Supplemental Index, doesn't mean it's bad. It just means it's very similar to other indexed results. If you publish a press release, it's the same exact press release republished 350 times or however many. With Press Advantage, I think right now it's around 250-ish or so distribution sites, so that's 250 pieces of content, of identical content out there on the web. Google doesn't need to index all, but trust me, Google crawled the site, is aware that it's there, whether it indexes it in the public index or the supplemental index really is beside the point. It's not important.
There are certainly some versions of the press releases that you hope and would like and want to be indexed, like Digital Journal is one of them. That's a good site for that. Also, the Press Advantage, the press release published on Press Advantage itself that gets indexed. Those are great press releases guys to push, build additional links to, uses like landing pages because they look good. They're very nicely laid out and they don't get purged. Again, there are certain ones that you can do additional things to and I highly recommend that. Don't worry about all the press releases, whether they're indexed or not because again Google is aware that they're there and if you have links pointing from them or NAP mentions, name, address, phone number mentions, another thing is called co-citation, all of those things occur because Google is aware that it's out there. Whether or not it's indexed or not shouldn't make a difference is my point.
Save yourself the time and the energy and the expense of your indexing service by just not even doing it. I'm telling you guys, I don't ever submit my press release reports to indexers ever period. We don't need to.
Marco: Having said that our [inaudible 00:44:46], we have a [inaudible 00:44:48] offers an indexing service, where he's getting 60 to 70% indexing rate. If you're a stickler for indexing, you can get your stuff indexed. Another way is taught in Local PR Pro actually by you Bradley. You send a traffic gig and I'm not going to say how or what because that's in the training and I'm not going to give away anything for free that's in the training, but there's a way that you can get traffic into your PRs and into your URLs that makes them all that much more effective because that's when Google really starts paying attention. Remember the art of art is getting activity, relevance, trust and authority into your link streams. There's just so much power when that happens. Again that's in Local PR Pro.
Bradley: Yeah, the only thing I would say about that is the sending traffic to a PR is kind of a tactic to get a specific PR to stick in the search results. It's not something that I would typically use for indexing multiple published PRs. In other words, because each PR has its own URL. Something you might want to try, I've never tested this, but you could take the CSV report or a PDF, whatever that has all the links to your published press releases and submit that to a traffic gig in Fiverr as a Google Doc URL, like a public Google Doc URL, I don't know if that would do anything or not, but if you're sending 5,000 visitors to a Google Doc URL or a Google Spreadsheet URL that has all of your press release links on it that might help them to index. I don't know that. Again that's just something that just popped in my mind now. It might even be worth testing. In fact, some traffic gigs to some RYS stuff might be worth testing [inaudible 00:46:38] Marco.
Marco: I'm not saying that they’ll index or that [inaudible 00:46:42] index. What I'm saying is that the activity at that tier, whether it's two or three will bring it in closer and then that helps push into the algorithm, push all of the goodness that we're looking for into the algorithm, which is activity, relevance, trust and authority because what we're looking to push is the target URL. We're not looking to get anything going really into these press release URLs, these link building URLs or whatever, but just the fact that you're getting activity in there is what activates everything.
How Do You Select A Specific Video From A YouTube Playlist Embed Code At Each Relevant Post In A Money Site?
If you've got YouTube Silo Academy, there are several different silo structures that you can apply, a mono silo. Anyways, my point is you can play around to see which gives you the best effect. One of the things that you should do is instead of just taking the video, like a way that can help to add additional power to both your website and to your YouTube channel is to not only theme mirror, which is basically mirror the silos on your YouTube channel that you have on your website, but also to create from those siloed playlists is to embed the corresponding video that it's targeting the same keyword as the supporting post or the corresponding post on the website. Embed that video in that post, but embed the playlist instead of just the individual URL because now once again, now you're embedding a YouTube silo into a money site silo. Guys, again, it's iframe stacking. It's the same thing. Instead of just iframing in the individual video, now you're iframing the whole entire silo into that specific post with the video that targets that same keyword that that post is optimized for.
Let's say you've got five supporting articles in a silo. You've got your top-level silo page and you've got five supporting articles, so total six pieces of content. Your YouTube silo should be the same. The playlist should have the top-level video, targeting top-level keyword and five supporting videos. Then, what you do is take the playlist embed code, like let's say on supporting article number two, you embed the supporting video number two in the playlist, so the entire playlist is embedded, but it's starting at video number two. Hopefully, you guys understand what I'm getting at here. Very simple, let me show you. I've got this opened up here. Let me just show you what I've done here. We're going to back-
Adam: What a nice picture.
Bradley: Okay, so I just went and searched Semantic Mastery’s channel. Okay, I'm going to click into the channel. I'm going to go to playlist. I'm going to go to the Humpday Hangout playlist, which has got 206 Humpday Hangouts in it. I'm not sure why there's only 206, but anyways I'm going to click into that to play all. Now, I'm just going to pause this real quick because it used to be, like I said that you could just go to share and click embed and it would give you the option to grab the embed code for the entire playlist. It would say, “Start the video in the embed player at video number one,” top of the playlist essentially or at the current video. It would give you the option. Well, that option doesn't appear here anymore apparently. What you do is you could copy this embed code right here, so I just copied it to my clipboard. I've got this notepad file right here. I'm going to increase the font size guys, so you can see it a little bit better. The embed code is right here, so this is an embed code for just the single video.
To demonstrate, I've got this open. Let's go to edit page. Sorry, it's being a little slow. I'm just going to paste that embed code that I just copied. I'm going to click update. I'm going to go view the page. Now, you'll see that if I click play, all it is is that single video, Humpday Hangout number 206. There is no playlist. There's nothing else right. When we started playing the playlist, we copied it from that. Unfortunately, it did not give us the option. Here's what we do, go back over to here and if you take a look up in the URL structure, you'll see where it says, “At the end of the video play, the normal … “ I know it's small text guys, but at the end of the normal YouTube URL, there's an ampersand and a list equals and that is the playlist ID right there.
List equals that what's beyond the equals is the playlist ID, but you need to copy the &list equals, the ampersand list equals and then the playlist ID. If we go back over to my notepad file, you can see that this is what I just copied out of that URL. What you do is you put that at the end of the video right here. You can see the link in the code, the embed code that's the YouTube video link. All we're going to do is take that &list, but you have to replace the ampersand with a question mark. I don't know why that is but for some reason, you need to have the question mark there. You just replace that.
I'll post this in the comment section guys and I'll also post it in the Facebook, where the original comment was, but you can see that all you do is take that list equals, so you add the question mark list equals and in the playlist ID, so watch. I'm going to take this, copy that. I'm going to put it right at the end, so at the end of that YouTube URL before the end or the closing quotation, I'm just going to paste that in. Now, I'm going to copy this code again, go back to my page, replace the code, click update. Now when I refresh this page, you see over here guys, right there is my playlist, right there. You see that? It just changed that entire embed code now to the full playlist embed code. You can see that I've got, if I close this down, which video did this play, curious.”
Adam: Hello and welcome to episode [inaudible 00:54:31]-
Bradley: Hey, it's Adam.
Adam: … of Humpday Hangouts.
Bradley: Hold on a minute, I want to see, I can't see what the fucking title is. Pardon me for a minute, let me check it out.
Adam: [inaudible 00:54:41] and we are going to say-
Bradley: Okay, so that was 210, so if we want to, we could come back over here and let's say we wanted to go to 199, all we would do is switch out the YouTube watch part of it, so same thing. I could just grab the share, go to embed, copy the code, go back over here, paste it in and then, grab that question mark list equals ID. I'm going to copy that and put that right at the end of the URL in the embed, click update. If we come back at what video was that I think that was 207, no 199. If we go back and refresh this page, it should be at 199. Let's just find out [inaudible 00:55:35] 199, see that? That's how you do it. Again, it just took me a minute to figure it out under the new interface or essentially they got rid of that option, but it's real simple. You just grab this part right here and I'm going to copy that and put that on the page for you. Wow, we still have a lot of questions to get through guys. I can stay 10 minutes later tonight, but that's it.
[inaudible 00:56:05], I'll tag you in the Facebook page Will, but this is the YouTube silo embed. There you go. There's a demonstration today. I don't usually do this on Humpday Hangouts, but there we go. A lot of [inaudible 00:56:24] just quick comments, oh cool. Dan says, “So having gone through Local Lease Pro, is there a next step or path for optimizing or using services to add more power and longevity for ranking locally?” Okay, yeah Dan, in about two weeks, I'm going to do an update webinar for Local Lease Pro. In fact guys, it's going to be a public webinar. I'm going to do the update webinar publicly. We're going to talk about a lot that I've discovered since we launched it because we're building GMB assets at scale like I said, like we're building dozens of them, now dozens and dozens of them. I've discovered a lot over the last month or so since we launched the product. Yeah, I'm going to be doing an update webinar in about two weeks.
As a quick answer, Local GMB Pro that's the advance that's the upgrade and essentially Local Lease Pro is how to get started and how to start setting up assets and very basic optimization that does tends to get results if you're doing your location research correctly. that's one of the big updates by the way that I'm going to be covering in the update webinar in about two weeks is going to be location research. I've completely kind of refined that process now and it's opened up a hell of a lot more opportunity guys. I'm going to be revealing that on that webinar. Again, we're going to make the update webinar public, so everybody will have the opportunity to join that. I would highly recommend that you … We're not going to leave it public for long. It will only be public probably for 24 to 48 hours and then, you got to be in Local Lease Pro to watch it.
One of the things where I'm going to be talking about is location research. However, if you're doing the location research, then if you just follow what's in Local Lease Pro that should be enough for your assets to start generating leads. If you need additional, if you find … Not all of them are going to be slam dunks guys. Some of them, you're going to find are more competitive than others and sometimes, there's no rhyme or reason to that either. There's just going to be some that are harder to get results from, so that's where Local GMB Pro comes in. Local PR Pro if you just want it to rank, like Local PR Pro is great for pushing into the three pack, but Local GMB Pro is about getting leads and getting results regardless or independent of rankings. That's where Local GMB Pro comes in. It's more or less the advanced training for Google My Business for those assets that need the additional push.
It's a good question, but pay attention Dan, be on the lookout. We'll give plenty of notice when we have the webinar and not only that since you're a Local Lease Pro member, you'll have access to the replay even if you don't see the live webinar.
All right, what's up guys? Lots of people commenting on the sales. Dan says, “Hey Adam, really sorry about missing my appoint with you, I got stuck with a customer. When I sat down, it was seven and I told him missed it.” Dan's awesome, thanks for letting him know.
Adam: Real quick, Donald, if you're not on our Facebook group, go join it, check out the post yesterday. We've got a template for local proposal, so maybe that's what you're looking for.
Bradley: Perfect, there you go. Yeah, I just saw that [inaudible 00:59:42].
Chris: Oh and it's free.
Adam: Yeah, it's a nice post too man. I like that post.
Bradley: Okay, let’s see.
Chris: Thank you. It's a 100% true by the way. Yeah, the first time I closed a client, I didn’t have anything to send to the guy, so I had to repurpose that thing that you guys are going to get. I had to repurpose it. I think it was from a CPA or something. [inaudible 01:00:07] I had to hack and slash a lot of stuff, but yeah now, we have it. I send it to you guys. You guys get, made an amazing job, so it's pretty cool.
Any Suggestion For A Call Service To Show Customer Actual Sales Calls?
Bradley:John asks suggestion for call service, so I can show customer actual sales calls and possibly sell leads until I have a client. I'm not sure what you mean by call service John unless I talked about pay per call exchange networks such as like RingPartner for example that's one way you can monetize assets until you find a service provided that wants to lease the asset or purchase on a pay per lead basis. However, as I said very, very clearly in the training that pay per call exchange networks, you're going to have really, really shitty conversion rates. It'll be terrible. I don't recommend it, except for something very interim, like if you've got assets that are producing calls, you don't have the service provider in place, then I would suggest using a pay per call exchange network as a kind of a temporary thing, so that you can help to monetize those assets.
Typically, what I do is and it just depends on how many calls I've got coming in, but I'll just send them to a voicemail. Sometimes, people actually leave messages for like tree services or whatever, but for the most part, I'm just showing the call data when I'm looking for a service provider. In other words, like I don't have to show sales volume because that's not up to me to sell. My job is to generate the lead or the phone call primarily, not to sell. It's the service provider’s job to sell and it's not mine. My job is just to produce the phone call, preferably a qualified phone call, but it's not my job to sell, so I don't try to show any sales data. I do like to show call volume data and I can show call metrics if I have them. For example, like calls where they came from, so obviously if you're getting a ton of outside area codes and stuff, then they're likely solicitation calls or spam calls, but if you're getting a lot of local phone number calls, it's because those are probably bonafide leads.
Again that's typically what I do, I just send people to voicemail, unless I've got … If I've got a GMB asset or a cluster of assets that are producing a significant amount of calls and I don't have [inaudible 01:02:34] … Well, usually it doesn't. If you're producing a significant amount of calls, you should be able to find a service provider very quickly because you've got something very valuable. If for whatever reason, you're still struggling with that you could use something like a pay per call exchange network, but just keep in mind that again your conversion rates are going to suck and so trying to use that data to show to a prospect, “Hey look, these are how many calls I generated, I generated 60 calls in the last 30 days, but only had three conversions,” that would be data you don't want to show them. You know what I mean?
Again, don't worry about sales data John. Just show the call volume and preferably if you can show that they were qualified in some manner.
Marco: If I may, I may be jumping the gun.
Bradley: That's why I didn't mention it. I know [inaudible 01:03:27].
Marco: Yeah, we'll be working on something along those lines John. We're going to improve let's say the actual sales conversion. We're working on something, I mean it's really wicked and it's going to be really good. It's still a few months away, which is why we can't give you details because we're putting it all together as we speak. Once it comes out, John you're in the Mastermind and always remember that membership has its privileges. You'll be one of the first people to whom this is made available.
Should You Set up A Portable FireFox Browser And Use A Consistent IP Address With The GMB Listings You Create?
Bradley: There you go. David says, “With the GMB listings you create, to be safe and keep everything separate, should we be setting up a portable Firefox and use a consistent IP address?” It's not necessary what's … David, we've been talking about this every single week for weeks now. We'll repeat it again though. What's important is that whatever IP you use and again, it's not the IP guys. It's not the IP. It's the device. It's the browsing session. You want to keep that live. The IP can change that makes no difference anymore. Honest to God, it makes zero bit of difference if the IP changes. What makes a difference is if you end the browsing session, if you close the … Like logout, like if you log out of Google for example and then, change the IP and try to log back in, it can cause re-verification or trigger a text message or whatever. It can lock your account, but as long as you're logged in, you can change IP as many times as you want and it's not going to trigger re-verification or signing in again.
The idea here guys is not to assign a specific IP and always log in from that IP because what you're doing there is you're just logging into the same IP, but you're always ending the browsing session. What's important is to keep the browsing session live or intact, open all the time, which is how most … That's how real people engage guys. Do any of you on your home computer when you're not doing SEO stuff, do you ever log out, clear cookies and log back in and all that? I mean no you don't because you only do that if you're spamming and you're doing SEO work.
What layman, civilian out there, a non-SEO ever logs out, clears their cache and cookies and then logs back in? Nobody, especially if they've got a Google account, they've got an Android phone, their devices are all logged in at all times and they never logout. Google is creating an avatar of that person and all their browsing history and the content that they like and that they engage with and the type of searches that they search for, the products that they visit, the entertainment, the videos that they watch, like all of that creates a profile and a history. That's what you want to do with your profiles that you're creating for spamming purposes guys. You want to create profiles that the browsing session remains open at all times and then, it starts to develop a history, cookies and cache accruing, not cleaning. You don't want to clean that stuff. You want it to accrue because that makes that look like a more natural, real profile, which is going to be a hell of a lot less likely to gets terminated than if you just assign a specific IP through a proxy and always clear cache and cookies and logout and log back in because you're using the same browser.
That's why I talk about in the training over and over and over again guys, if you're doing any SEO work now in today's, like today, you should be using a browser keeper application. I don't know if that's the proper name. I just made that up. It's an old joke, I just made up, a browser keeper like Browseo or Ghost Browser and there's probably other ones out there, Firefox, whatever you mentioned. Portable Firefox might allow you to do the same thing, I don't know because I'm not familiar with that. It's a good question David. I'm not picking on you, but like I said just don't worry about the IP guys. It's about the device and the browsing session, keep it open at all times. Using a browser keeper app like Browseo or Ghost Browser will give you that ability. Then, you don't even need to use proxies. You can do it from your home IP and it will be fine.
Marco: The problem with portable Firefox is that when you say profiles, sometimes and for whatever reason, the cookies will be wiped away, which is what we want. We want all of that activity. We want all of that information to be kept-
Marco: … forever and for whatever reason, when you go from profile to profile, sometimes you'll come back and that information that you want in there, the cookies and whatever, it'll be gone. That's the problem that I found with Firefox.
Is There A Better Option Than P.O. Box For GMB Verification?
Marco: It's almost available as we speak. I know we've been saying that for a while, but I was just talking to Caesar. I met with him today and that's one of the things that we discussed. We just have to set it up. I mean we're changing the framework that we're using so that all of the things that you can add to it because there’s just so much. We want it to be really simple. We don't want you to purchase one thing and then have to come back and purchase another, purchase another. It just becomes onerous and cumbersome and we want to eliminate that.
Bradley: That's awesome Will. Yeah dude, no problem man. When you said that he couldn't figure it out, I went back and looked at those embed codes and all I did was just take a look at the actual code. Guys that's one of the ways you can figure this stuff out. I mean it's not magic. It's just simple like I just copied the code from one of the blog posts that had the playlist embed, the proper embed code and I just compared it to the embed code that you get now and that's how I identified that question mark list equals and in playlist ID. That's all I did, but just compared those two embed codes and it stuck out like a sore thumb. I mean it's not magic. I'm not super smart. All I did was just compare the two and saw the difference between them and identified what it was and that's it, problem solved.
Is It Okay To Use Zamora SyndBuddy To Auto Post From The Blog To Branded Social Media Sites?
Ray says, “I've got a four-year client. His rankings are slipping after a site rebuilt. It's not a local business. It's international. I don't want it all to a tank from software footprints that Google doesn't like.” Well, Ray, first of all, yeah when you do like a major structural change on a website, you're going to see dancing. With the very limited information you gave me in the question, I'm not going to assume that you haven't waited past the normal Google dance time. I'm just going to assume that you've done all that but just for everybody else's benefit, pretty much all the time when you significantly change the site, like change the theme and structure, layout, those kind of things, it will dance, the site will dance and that's normal. One of the worst things you can do is during the dancing period is to go in and start trying to change up a bunch of the SEO components of the site because that can really trigger, like it can essentially sandbox your site because it's almost like a mousetrap, like a trap that Google sets.
Now, again, I'm going to assume that you waited out the dancing period and now, you're trying to find ways and it's still continuing to slip and that can happen also. I'm not sure why that would happen, unless like you said there's some sort of footprint issue that Google doesn't like. Again, if it was the same type of content stuff, I don't know why that would happen. However that said, is it okay to post to the site blog and use a plugin like [inaudible 01:12:05] to auto post to Facebook, YouTube, Vimeo and other 20 or so social platforms owned by the website business? Yes, as long as they're branded profiles, there's no problem with that whatsoever.
I would highly recommend that you're syndicating content to your branded profiles. Now, you can have other profiles like share content and such, but I would like essentially share, but wouldn't republish the whole post on other like third-party type or persona-based accounts. Branded accounts, yes. Persona-based accounts can mention and link to content, but I wouldn't republish the content that makes sense. I'm not familiar with how Send Buddy works, but it sounds very similar to what our IFTTT applets would do or any one of those other types of tools that our content syndication type tools, Snap, the social network auto poster plug-in is another one that does that, which is a WordPress plugin. Same thing, just select branded profiles to link or to republish content to. You can link to your content from third-party profiles, but don't republish to third-party profiles. Does that make sense?
By the way, yeah, I mean if you want to use additional syndication stuff, you certainly can. A lot of that can be accomplished with IFTTT, but if you want to use a plug-in, if it's quicker or faster, easier, whatever, sure do it.
Okay, Jim, just contact [inaudible 01:13:30] in one of our groups and whatever group you're in, a Facebook or just post in the group, say, “I'm looking for an indexing service.” We'll make sure [inaudible 01:13:38] gets tagged on it. You can go, just visit him direct. We don't have that service available in MGYB yet, but we're just directing people, like direct to [inaudible 01:13:47] because he's awesome. He'll look you up. [inaudible 01:13:53] Over ray Bartholomew, again he says, “If doing more than one client AdWords campaign, should I get some special status from AdWords? Yes, AdWords manager count. That's what you should set up, absolutely. Ray, just go search Google Ads manager account. It's not AdWords any more, Google Ads manager account and then, sign up for that. You're going to need a new Gmail account. You don't sign up with an existing Gmail account. You got to create a new one, but at least in my experience, they don't make you jump through hoops to create it. It's usually just an easy creation process and then, you'll assign Google Ads accounts to the manager account, so that you'll be able to access from the manager account.
Okay, oh sweet, we're done.
Marco: All right, one last thing before you go, guys subscribe to our YouTube channel, come on. It really helps us out. It really helps us keep this free, keep this venue going with four years and counting. We plan on just going as long as we can. It helps us out when you guys go and subscribe to our channel and the activity in our channel also helps us out. Please, go and donate, donate to the charity. It's Thanksgiving, it's a time to be grateful for everything that you have that you've been given, for all of the blessings, but it's also time to look outward and see how much need there is and to know that simple five bucks, like I said a cup of coffee can make a world of difference to a child.
Bradley: Yeah and definitely, guys try to, if you can even $5 like you said, $5 if everybody that came and watched Humpday Hangouts donated $5, it could make a significant difference in a lot of children's lives. Definitely do it. Besides that guys, everybody have a happy Thanksgiving. We appreciate you all hanging out with us, even though we went late again, so thanks. We'll see everybody next week. Happy Thanksgiving.
Adam: Hello and welcome to Episode 210 of Hump Day Hangouts. I am Adam Moody with Semantic Mastery. We are gonna say hi to everyone real quick before we dive into some announcements and questions from everybody watching us live. Also, if you're watching this on YouTube, we noticed from time to time that we get questions over there, but you need to come to semanticmastery.com/hdquestions and ask your questions there, that's where we're monitoring. Before we dive in, real quick, Chris, how are you doing, man?
Chris: Doing good. Good weather in Florida always the last couple weeks. I highly recommend it, like I love it. How are you doing?
Adam: Not bad. It's like 60 here, which is perfect. Everyone in California thinks it's like the middle of winter and I'm just enjoying myself. This is good. Marco, how about you? How's the weather for you, man?
Marco: Things are good here, man, transitioning to the dry season. So we're gonna have about five and a half months of absolutely no rain, not even a drop. I'm looking forward to … Yeah, but then, it's seven months of afternoon showers. You gotta pay the price for the life you live, right?
Adam: Yeah, fair enough.
Marco: But always warm, like if it were 60 here, we'd all be dying literally. It's freezing cold.
Chris: [Inaudible 00:01:19] stay in Florida.
Adam: Definitely. Bradley, how about you, man? How are you doing?
Bradley: I'm good, I'm happy to be here. Got lots of stuff going on at the moment. Just been really, really busy. In last week, well, I took off for a couple days because my sister got married again. I actually got to go down to Hilton Head, South Carolina and meet one of our members, Ed, who also went to POFU Live; he's in the Mastermind also. That was cool because I got to spend an hour with him just chatting. It was really, really cool. I always enjoy getting to meet members whenever we have the opportunity. So that was a lot of fun. But I had to take really Friday and Monday off, so now I'm behind.
Besides that, I got a quick little story to tell very, very quickly. Just last week, it was funny because I was actually reviewing the Hump Day Hangout from last week and I was talking about mitigating risk. Marco and I, we were talking about reducing exposure and trying to mitigate risk because, if you put all your eggs in one basket and Google takes that basket, you're screwed, you've lost all those assets.
Well, I was using a test with what's called GMB Location Groups. It's a setting inside of Google My Business. I was running a test on a set of GMB assets for a particular metro area, so one metropolitan city area. I had seven assets in there that were fully optimized, 100% done. In fact, they were the seven assets that my VAs has been training on as he's been learning the processes for doing this whole method, the Local Lease Pro model, essentially.
Long story short, on Saturday, I was down at the Hilton Head and I happened to get an email saying that the account that was used as the recovery email for that particular GMB manager account, which had to be turned into an owner in order to use location groups, had been terminated for violating Google's spam policies. I lost all those damn assets, every single one of them, and I can't even access them through the original Google accounts now, guys.
That was three weeks work, not necessarily my work, but my VA's work wasted. Now, is it all bad? No, because I learned a valuable lesson. Number one, don't use GMB location groups, it's like a trap, number one, lesson number one. Number two is always mitigate risk. Don't set yourself up with vulnerabilities that Google can take … We exploit Google's vulnerabilities. Don't you think Google will exploit ours? So I learned that … In fact, I'm actually updating the entire process for how to first log in and set up and manage a lot of GMB assets. I'm updating all those processes this week, in fact, because we have to do something new that reduces our overall risk.
Anyways, that was my little story. I'm a little bit behind now because all the work that I've done for the last several weeks on all the processes now has to be updated and redone. But that's the cat and mouse game that we play.
Marco: Yeah. One of the great things about our Mastermind is that we do all of the testing, we take all of the risk, we were the ones who go in the lab. I mean, we do encourage our own people to test so that they can verify that our results are what we're saying they are. But it's one of the things that we do, we go, we blow things up and it happens, and then now we know what not to do. And right into our Mastermind, we'll share all of test result with the membership exactly what was done so that they don't repeat the process and get stuck losing assets because nobody wants to lose an asset, especially not seven. But so be it, lesson well-learned and it's a lesson that the Mastermind doesn't have to repeat.
Bradley: That's true and, just real quick segue, that leads me to, that's kind of like what the Mastermind is about. The scaling option, like doing all these heavy processes and stuff, is really reserved to the POFU Live group attendees at the moment, but we're polishing all this stuff. Obviously, the Mastermind, we update, like tomorrow we've got a Mastermind webinar and I'm certainly gonna be talking about what not to do because I want to make sure all of our members are fully aware of what not to do so they don't lose assets.
But once we have this 12-week process done, that the POFU Live attendees are kind of in accountability group with me right now, and we've got a target that we're trying to hit at the end of 12 weeks, which is 50 GMB assets fully developed and ready for monetization, if they're not already monetized by that point, and so when we're done at that 12-week period, we will have discovered or perfected, really fine-tuned the method and all of the processes to get us there, to get us to that point. That's when we're gonna release in its entirety the Mastermind.
That training will not be released outside of the Mastermind, period, and that's only because it's highly valuable and we put a lot of work. In fact, the other members of the POFU accountability group with us, that's like 12 of us in there, and so that's a lot of intellectual property, a lot of a work that goes into that. So the Mastermind members will get that.
But that's just one of many things that we do there. For example, we had some questions about how to structure ad ID pages and set up as three buckets with HTTP, SSL protocol, and all that stuff. Two weeks ago, we went in and showed exactly how to do that. I mean, it's just stuff like that that we do in the Mastermind all the time.
Adam: Yeah. Something else that I just remembered, that reminded me of, Bradley, was, I think it was Jason who posted yesterday, who's one of our Mastermind members, just out of the blue was like, hey, I've seen some questions about blah blah blah-, not blah blah blah, but some heavy-duty IT stuff. He's like, “Hey, if anybody needs help just ping me. I'll do it for free if you're a Mastermind member.”
That's just awesome to see. Again, you get that in a tight-knit group like that. It's cool having that ability. Everyone who knows our story kind of knows where we came from and how we were part of a Mastermind. That's why part of why we do this to get that community, it's not just a jumble of people, you do have a community.
Adam: Well, cool. I also want to say then to you guys, we mentioned the GMB stuff, we've got a sale going on right now at MGYB. It's wrapping up today. So if you're interested or you need a GMB verification service, whether it's for your clients, it's for yourself, you're doing some lead gen, head over there. I posted it on the page. If you're watching the replay, sorry, it's probably too late. But a good reason to watch live and open the emails is you get a 35% discount on that service right now. So head over there do that.
Real quick, too, if you're joining us for the first time, thank you so much for watching us. If you want the right place to start, because it is one of the questions we get, “Hey, where should I start? Should I take this course and do that?” start with Battle Plan. No matter what you're doing, even if you want to hop into Mastermind, get the Battle Plan, come join the Mastermind. That's the path. The link is on there. It's a great way to get repeatable results, which is why we put it together, so that we can have that. It's our home processes put into an easy-to-digest format.
Then, obviously, like we've been talking about it, if you're ready to take things up a notch, if you wanna scale, you wanna grow, then the Mastermind is the place to be.
Bradley: Did you open up Local Lease Pro as a standalone product now?
Bradley: I'll be damned. I didn't realize that was available yet. Okay.
Adam: Sneaking that onto the page, if people are interested.
Bradley: Yeah. Okay.
Adam: I'm gonna say no more.
Bradley: Everything I've been talking about with this Local Lease Pro method, that's it. Most of you guys are probably aware of it because of the Side Hustle Toolbox promotion, that was our contribution. But now that that's closed, it's a standalone product. I'm gonna be updating that in a couple of weeks with some of the new processes that I've just discovered.
Again, GMB, like the actual optimization process has changed slightly. Not much, but slightly, and I'm updating the processes for my VAs right now. So next week, I'll kind of polish it up a bit and then add that into the Local Lease Pro training. So if you guys don't have it yet, I recommend you get it. This method is freaking killing it. I think it's the most opportunity I've seen in my local marketing career. I mean that, so check it out.
All right. Can we get into questions?
Adam: I think so. If you guys are good, let's do this.
Do I Need Access To A Client's Website If I Do Local SEO For Them?
In fact, with proper on-page SEO, a lot of the times you can rank a site with a fraction of the off-page SEO because any off-page SEO that … If on site is proper, if it's tight, if it's strong, then any off-page will significantly affect, it will have a strong impact on the site because then the site will respond well to off-page because it is a well-built, well-structured site.
But that doesn't mean that you have to have access to the site because you can accomplish through off-page. You can still rank a site with off-page. If the on-page is terrible, then you probably are fighting a losing battle. But if it's decent, then you could probably still accomplish what you need to, depending on how competitive the keywords are that you're targeting. But it's likely that you could still accomplish what you needed to with off-page alone. But again, there are benefits certainly to being able to access the client's website. Right? If you're starting with garbage, it's gonna be difficult to rank. So just keep that in mind. Okay.
It helps, it's not 100% necessary. Well, it depends, right? It depends on what the status of the site is currently. If it's a shitty site, if it was built poorly, optimized poorly, or if it's spammed to death or whatever, then you may never be able to rank that site. But if it's decent, if it's fairly okay, then you could still just apply off-page methods and probably get the results that you want. However, if you can do both, manage the on-page and the-off page, you will get the best results. Right?
Are The SEO Methods In RYS Reloaded And GMB Work On WordPress.com And Wix.com Websites?
RYS is about using Google's assets as an off-page tool as well as an entity validator, an authority builder, and multiple other things. But it's more of an off-page thing. Again, it has nothing to do with the website structure or the platform itself, WordPress or Wix. It doesn't matter because all you're doing is using Google properties to push relevancy and authority over to whatever property is that you're trying to rank.
Marco, do you wanna chat about that a little bit?
Marco: Yeah. It's just one of the pillars that we teach, ART, the art of ART, activity, relevance, trust and authority, both on the link origin and on the link destination. What that means is you get visitors no matter how you show activity and Google reward you as long as everything is relevant and you're working with trusted and authoritative entities. If you become along with that, a trusted and authoritative entity, then you get rewarded. Google will also reward you for being in Google because Google trusts itself. It's the ultimate as far as what it trusts. So working in what we call working inside the belly of the beast also has its rewards.
Yeah. As Bradley said, it makes absolutely no difference. I mean, you work with whatever. I mean, you have a free WordPress blog ranking for … what is it? Free-, no, not free. SEO Virginia. Yeah. I mean, it just goes to show that if you get that activity in there, everything else just fall into place as long as it's relevant, trusted and authoritative.
I keep telling people, and I just mentioned it in our Semantic Mastery Facebook group, the Mastermind, that ART, A-R-T, will trump anything. It will even overcome any of the negative factors, of the algorithm, penalties and all of that. You become almost immune to anything that Google has to throw at you because you're signaling rank pot-, excuse me, rank brain in the way that it wants to be signaled. You're doing the Google tickle, the T tickle. I mean, it blows up. It becomes a self-feeding monster once you get all that activity in there.
Bradley: Yeah. This is an example of what Marco was just talking about, this is that WordPress.com. So free wordpress.com blog, guys. If you take a look at this, there's no content on this page. It looks like there's content, but the only content on this page is this right here. That's it. The rest of those are embedded files. That's RYS at work there, guys. That's RYS Academy right there at work. Okay. Again, go view page source, the post body, the article body of this post. The content body is this right here. That's the only text on the page. The rest of it is all embedded files RYS style, and that's all.
Look at that, guys. It's ranked number three in organic for SEO Virginia. I mean, that's pretty powerful. Again, that's all off-page stuff. There is some on-page going on there because of the iframes that are actually embedded in this page, but it's primarily an off-page thing that's got this ranking. And that's the power of RYS, right?
By the way, the Google site as part of the stack and that's been number one since May of 2015. Guys, that's been number one since May of 2015, or within a few weeks anyways, that's when it was published. Look at that, it's a horrid site. It was just for a test purpose, guys. Still ranked. Still ranked, it's three and a half years now. Still ranked. Anyways, there you go. Will it work? It damn sure does.
How Do You Get The URL Of A Scheduled Post In The MGYB GMB Service?
Marco, that's something that I think Rob was talking about that was going to be a feature, that was going to be released soon within the auto poster was the ability to silo a post. Is that correct?
Marco: Yeah. We keep going back and forth with Shripad. I'm not sure if that's available yet. But I mean, there's an easy solution to that. Link in the body or you're still not gonna have the post URL. You would need the original post URL, and then the next one, then the next one. So Shripad will have to come up with something regarding that so that we can solve that issue. But, yes, he is working on it so we can silo GMB posts.
Bradley: Yeah. I'm thinking if the script would wait until a published one was pulled and then grab the short URL and then link to that before the next one that's scheduled publishes. You know what I mean? That would work to build a silo on that. I know that if you post the post … So you publish the post, then you grab the URL and link to it from the next post. But, you're right, if you wanna schedule out multiple posts in advance, right now there's not an ability to do that yet.
But that's something, Marco, if you wanna make a note of that specifically, silo posts together, schedule post together, which I'm sure that can be integrated at some point. Right now that's not something that can be done, Dustin, but we're working on that. It's a great feature.
Marco: No. Dustin, what I would suggest is you just have your VA go in and add links as needed.
Bradley: As they're published.
Bradley: Right. As they publish, go grab the URL, and then go post the next one. That's the only thing we can do to daisy chain them together right now until we have the automation such that it will be able to do it. Okay.
I mean, we spend a lot of time learning this stuff, guys, we should be paid for it. I mean, think about that. We spend all our time learning how to perform this SEO magic stuff. A business owner that's doing plumbing, for example, he's out unclogging drains and that kind of stuff. He wouldn't have time to learn all this stuff. How do I know? Because I was an electrical contractor and I had to learn how to do this shit while I was doing electrical work. It just so happens I found that I could make more money at this, that's why I switched to this all together.
What are you gonna say, Marco?
Marco: Yeah. I was gonna say we deserve to be paid and be paid well. I mean, do you know how much time we've spent between RYS Academy, RYS Reloaded, Local GMB Pro, Local PR Pro, Local Lease Pro? Do you know how many hours have gone into researching that and making it work? Making that all work hand in hand so that one pushes the other and you're pushing ultimate power to whatever destination so that that client's phone rings?
Yeah. It may seem like magic. “Well, my phone rang. You did all that.” But it's actually just hours and hours and hours of being a total geek.
Are There Ways We Can Use Press Releases Based On The Battleplan Aside From Launching A New Site?
Yeah, Dan. “Press releases are my favorite off-page or link building method really. Like no question, I absolutely love press releases. I use them as my primary off-page link building tool or method. I still use spam links from time to time for certain things, but for the most part I'm using press releases for link building.”
Yeah. You can use them. Guys, there's dozens and dozens of things that you can publish press releases about. I've talked about them. Dan, we have a course called Local PR Pro which is specifically about how to use press releases to rank in the Maps pack, to get Google GMB, Google My Business profiles ranked in the maps pack using press releases. Right?
That's what that course, Local PR Pro, is all about. In that course, I talk about how there's multiple different things that you could publish a press release about. Because that's a question that comes up often, “Well, I don't think my client has anything that's really newsworthy to publish a press release about.”
But think about it, getting a five-star review, you could publish a press release about receiving a five-star review or your client. Or you could publish a press release about a new employee being hired. Or a seasonal change to the product line that's available. Or the services that are available, depending on what kind of business you're dealing with. Or an accolade that the company receives, some sort of award or something like that. Or any charitable things, any charity events that they're hosting or that they contribute to or participate in. Right?
There's just dozens and dozens of things, hooks, angles that you could use to write a news release or something that can be … Guys, you can even publish a press release about a new blog post that's been published on the website. No kidding. I mean, you just have to get a little bit creative. Dan, when I say you have to get creative, I don't mean you. I mean, what I would recommend is hiring a PR writer, from Upwork or something like that, that can come up with these angles. A good press release writer can come up with a newsworthy angle for just about anything.
Again, if you're doing a lot of this work, you could hire a PR writer, a good PR writer from like Upwork or something like that. Or if you've got a good press release distribution service that you subscribe to for monthly press releases or whatever, if they've got good writers in-house, which most good services do now, then they'll have writers that are already trained on how to find news where the angles or to create hooks or their stories for the press releases. Right?
For example, if you use the MGYB press release service, the writers there from the Press Advantage distribution network, if that's what you're using, it's fabulous, and there the press releases are almost twice the content length of typical press releases. There's somewhere in the neighborhood of 750 words as opposed to 300 to 400, which is what most of them are. So those writers are really, really good, like their sole purpose in life is to find an angle or to create an angle to write a press release about. Those are the same writers that you have access to when you buy a press releases from us individually.
Okay. Anybody wanna comment on that before we move on? It's a good one, Dan.
Marco: No. I think you hit the nail on the head. They're great for just about everything. The only thing that you have to avoid is self-promotion, but you get that from most of them. You just have to define what self-promotion is. You go and you advertise. Well, we're in Facebook, if you've just started your Facebook page, we're doing this, we're doing that. It's still self-promotion. It's just not getting sales. That's what you wanna try to avoid.
Other than that, it's fantastic for link building. Not only that, if you hit the press release, whatever the distribution network is with link building, it'll push through. You're putting a filter in between the destination so that you hit that with link building. It'll power it up even more. They just work really well for everything.
Bradley: They damn sure do. Like Marco said, you can actually do self promotional PRs, but the salesy part is what you gotta leave out. They shouldn't be salesy. But they can be self-promotional. Again, a good PR writer will be able to disguise a promotion as a story, a news story, and that's really what you wanna do. That's why I say don't do it yourself. If I had to write press releases, I'd be a very miserable person. I wouldn't wanna do it, but some people enjoy that stuff and they're good at it. All right.
Is It Okay To Start With Battleplan Before Going Into The Mastermind and Syndication Academy Courses?
Andrew Walker's up. Andrew is a local guy to me. I was in lead share, like a breakfast lead share group with him for several years that I don't attend those things much anymore. Andrew is a great guy. Anyways, it's good to see you here, Andrew. I haven't seen him in a while. He says, “Hey guys, it's been a long time since I've been on Hump Day Hangouts. I got caught up in the cold calling strategy to build my business and also had a case of the shiny object syndrome.” Well, we all do, Andrew. Don't beat yourself up, buddy. We all go through that. I promise you, I've been through it. I still struggle with that, to be honest.
“I don't fully understand how powerful-,” or excuse me, “I didn't fully understand how powerful digital marketing is and what it can do for your business. You would think that that's a no-brainer for an IT guy. Anyway, I'm back for real and I'm ready to learn this stuff. I've just downloaded the Battle Plan. I'd love to get involved in the Mastermind, but I'm not able to afford that at this time. Syndication Academy looks to be a great runner up. Can I start there to get things going or just start with the Battle Plan? Thanks, guys, and congrats on your four year anniversary.”
Okay. Great question, Andrew. Again, glad to see you back, man. The Syndication Academy is, yeah, it's good, however, because, I'm not gonna knock Syndication Academy, but what we recommend is, especially for you, Andrew, you're running your IT business, your IT services business, and so it depends on how much time you have. If you've got a lot of time and no money then, yes, pick up Syndication Academy because then you can learn how to build your own syndication network, which is gonna be one of the critical components to your business in expanding your reach and helping to generate more leads, it'll help with your SEO and all that kind of stuff.
However, there's a lot of time that goes into learning how to build a syndication network and, unless you plan on building syndication networks for others or selling them to others, I wouldn't recommend that you go through all the trouble of learning how to build all that stuff for your own branded syndication network, for your own business. If you're looking to try to grow your business, then your time is better spent not learning how to build a syndication network that you're only gonna build one for your own business.
Your time is better spent marketing your business. You can instead just buy a Done For You Syndication Network from us and we will build it to our specifications, which is exactly what we teach in the training. You can save yourself weeks of study and implementation by just buying a Done For You Syndication Network and you still reap the benefits of it without having to spend weeks of your time. Does that make sense? They're inexpensive enough that there's really no reason that you can't just buy a Done For You Syndication Network from us. It's cheaper or about the same price as the cost of a month tuition to Syndication Academy. Right?
Anyways, my point is, if you want, Andrew, since you can't join the Mastermind yet, what I recommend is that you attend our Hump Day Hangouts regularly on Wednesdays, ask your questions here try, keep it to one question per post. In other words, you can post a few times, but try to keep it one question per post please. Ask questions here and we will try to guide you in the best way possible to help you to start growing your IT business, just from these Hump Day Hangouts. Then once you have generated some revenue you can always come join the Mastermind, which is your best bet, because the Mastermind is not just about marketing stuff.
Guys, we've gotten away from just teaching SEO or just teaching marketing methods. It's more about building your business regardless of whether you're building a local agency or consulting firm, or you want to build your own brick and mortar business, or virtual business for that matter. We want to teach you how to do all of that, which includes marketing and includes SEO, and includes all that stuff, but we're not pigeon holing our training into just marketing training, if that makes sense. A lot more goes into it than that.
I would suggest, Andrew, that what you do is come back and join us here in Hump Day Hangouts, get involved, stay engaged, ask questions. We also have our Facebook group, the SEO tutorials Facebook group that you could ask questions there. As soon as you're able to, I would invest in joining the Mastermind so that you can get, basically, almost one-on-one guidance from each one of us my partners and I as well as all of the other members in the Mastermind that are also savvy business owners. Right? That's part of why it's Mastermind because it's not just about us teaching all the time, it's about everybody in there contributing and helping each other, which is fabulous. Okay.
By the way, one of our top members, longtime members, Jason Johnson, who is what Adam was just talking about at the very beginning of this Hump Day Hangout, he was mentioning somebody was having difficulty setting up their MX records for G suite email to use their domain for their email within G suite. Jason Johnson posted, “Hey, I saw somebody was having trouble with MX records. Hey, I'm an IT guy. If anybody has any questions or any problems, tell them to reach out to me. I'll help them for free as long as they're a Mastermind member.”
Andrew, what I'm saying is, Jason is an IT guy who's been in our Mastermind. He does digital marketing on the side, but also markets his own business and somebody that you could absolutely click with. Probably the two of you could chat about what he's doing for his business and what's working for him in generating leads for his IT business and all that kind of stuff. Right?
Again, that's part of the power of a Mastermind. It's not just learning from me or Marco when, you know, I'm gonna teach you how to generate leads for your business, but I generate leads for contracting businesses. Right? You're trying to generate leads for IT services, and computer repair networking, and that kind of stuff, so why not get the advice direct from somebody that's already generating leads for that type of a business, which we have members in our group to do that? Does that make sense?
That's the power of a Mastermind. Okay. So that's what I recommend. In the meantime, if you don't have the money, come back here, ask questions, implement what you can, go through our YouTube channel Semantic Mastery, youtube.com/semanticmastery. Use the channel search function, ask questions over there. You're likely going to find already video answers for many of your questions. Then, like I said, anything that you can't find answers to, post in either the Facebook group or post back here on the event page every week and we'll come in and answer your questions. As soon as you can generate a little bit of positive revenue, I would reinvest that back into your education and into building your business by joining the Mastermind, getting guidance from us as well as our other members.
Marco: I'm gonna give him just a couple of weeks. First of all, welcome back, Andrew. Sorry that you had a shiny object syndrome. I mean, that sucks and it makes you spend a whole lot of money and time chasing. It becomes a useless path. You fill up your computer with a whole bunch of garbage that you're never going to use and you realize how much money you spent and then you get caught up at where you are right now where you ended, and dropped all that money and you have nothing to show for it.
But that's okay, lesson learned. The two examples that I'm gonna give you is, I'm gonna give you Paul Fussell, who's always in these Hump Day Hangouts, and I wouldn't be surprised if he drops in today; or if he isn't, it's because he's out making money. He was at POFU Live, as a matter of fact, our event. The way he went about doing it, he come into Hump Day Hangouts, ask questions, and then go and go and apply. Ask questions, go and apply. then he started purchasing our drive stacks to rank. I know that he was doing dental for a while, I don't know what he's doing now.
Anyway, the thing about Paul is that he just went and he got Done For You services, and then he was chasing clients. Every time he'd get a client, drive stack, and that's how he would he would rank them. But that's Paul and that's how he did it, so Hump Day Hangouts and Done For You services.
Then, we get to Jordan in Syndication Academy. Jordan lives in Syndication Academy, he's always there. He's one of our, I don't know, one of our long-running and most active members of Syndication Academy. He runs an agency and I think he just got a huge nationwide client, but it's from Syndication Academy. I'm not gonna say that he got everything from Syndication Academy, but I know that that's his foundation and I know that that's what he's doing to rank his clients, to help his clients and to help his agency.
He has an agency, actually he's an agency owner, but he decided that Syndication Academy was the thing for him. But, of course, they'll all tell you, and Jordan will tell you that the Battle Plan is the place where you start, and you have to follow it. If you follow the Battle Plan, then you're going to get to our Done For You services.
It's a whole lot easier to go and buy a Syndication Academy Network, as Bradley mentioned, than to learn how to build a one-of-a-kind that you only need that one time. Why not go buy it and pay that than to pay a monthly membership to learn how to build one, or you might not wanna learn how to build one, or you might need?
It's just to buy them and then go and sell it to clients, to people you know. Then, you pitch the benefits of being branded of having that footprint of being seen, of your content being seen everywhere, pushing your content to where the people are hanging out. So that's one of the benefits.
You could do it many ways. Now, of course, we're always going to tell you that the Mastermind is the place to be because that's where like-minded entrepreneurs hang out, people who want to grow their business and get away from just that weekly paycheck and having to wait until the next one so that you could do whatever it is that you wanna do. We wanna push you, guys, past that. We call it POFU, position of fuck you.
Whatever that position is for you, Andrew, we want you to get there. There isn't just one way to get there, but we do wanna help you get there. So whether you choose Hump Day Hangouts, whether you choose Syndication Academy, or what we suggest, whether you join our Mastermind, we're going to help you any way we can. That's what we're here for.
Bradley: That's right. Let's not forget Mohammad. He's a shining example. Mohammad Mackey. He started by just joining Hump Day Hangouts and coming and asking questions week in and week out and for months. Eventually, he got to a point where he landed a couple of his first clients and started making enough money. He came and joined the Mastermind. Then, he went through a little bit of a struggle for over-promising to clients and ended up losing some clients and had to drop out of the Mastermind for a little bit.
But he kept coming to Hump Day Hangouts and asking more questions, even during that time where he had to back out of the Mastermind, and he got the education that he needed and he implemented it. Right? It's nothing we did, all we did was provide him with information, but he's the one that took action and kept at it. He kept persisting in working and he kept finding stuff that wasn't working until he found stuff that did work. Then, he landed some clients again, got his money back up, and joined the Mastermind again.
We have multiple examples of people that have done that just by starting here, right here at Hump Day Hangouts, Andrew, and you can do that too. Right? The Battle Plan, like I said, will tell you do this, this, this, and this, and you're going to start getting results. It doesn't say that you have to learn how to do those things, it just tells you apply these things. Right?
You can either learn how to do those things and do them yourself or, as a business owner, it would be much more efficient with your time to just purchase the Done For You services and apply them in the order that they're recommended and reap the benefits of those without having to learn how to do it. Okay. Great question. Again, glad to have you back, Andrew. We're happy to see you participate and be a lot more engaged over the coming weeks.
What Are The Factors You Consider When Finding The Best Keywords For Ranking Opportunity In Local Lead Gen Campaigns?
Okay. First of all, Gordon, Local Lease Pro, I showed the exact simple method, it's kind of time-consuming, but the simple method using it, a free software that we show, we use to identify what I call slam-dunk opportunities, which is which you're calling a golden goose in your question, okay? Again, that was in Local Lease Pro. If you have access to that, which I'm hoping you do because it was on sale for a very, very ridiculously low price for about eight days during the Side Hustle Toolbox launch. That's close now, but it is available, Local Lease Pro, but we teach the method specifically how to find low-hanging opportunities.
Now I can't go into the details of that right here, but it is very, very simple to do using the Easy Local Cash software, which is a free software. It's Chad Kimball's software. It just shows you, basically, ever since July of this year, when mobile implemented or switched to the mobile first index, that opened up just massive, massive opportunity. I'm telling you, guys, it opened up more opportunity than I've seen since I started my local marketing career in 2010. And that is what we teach on how to find those opportunities that have been opened up by this major change in the algorithm or which index is used first. Right? The mobile first index.
That's all in Local Lease Pro. I can't obviously say that right here. It is in the course. Also, you can find out, certainly, if you joined a Mastermind, because Local Lease Pro is one of the first courses that Mastermind members get now when they join.
Marco: Yeah, the how. I mean, that's the course, the how is, you know, if we gave you that, then why have a course in the first place? So, sorry, that's something that we can't do. I'm glad that you mentioned again the Mastermind. I was in our mini, we have the mini-Mastermind and mine is on Tuesday nights for an hour. I have three great people. I have Jamina, I have Will Kenderdine, and John Wypick. We were going over my method for using the software and we went over it in detail. I don't mind for an hour. I mean, I decided to give my time, right?
So this is what it's all about. Membership has its privileges. I do things a little bit differently. I find targets a little bit differently, but it all works just the same way. The same way that you teach it, the way that I do it, I already decided to do it. The thing is that membership has its privileges. You have to be a member in order to get the information that you're asking about. It's not something that we can give away for free.
Bradley: Yeah. “Also, how do you determine whether or not there's enough search traffic to generate adequate phone calls?” Well, that's a good question. If you do your research properly upfront, you should know. First of all, you should research your industry or the niche that you're targeting. Now if you followed us at all for any length of time, Gordon, which I know you have, you know that I've been telling you and I've been preaching this and beating this drum for years now, which is: specialize. Focus on one industry, guys. Become a big fish in one industry instead of a me-too agency or a me-too consultant or me-too local marketer that will just accommodate any business that will talk to you.
Trust me, you will never gain any traction in your business, or you will have a much harder time gaining traction in your business, if you just offer marketing services to any business that will talk to you. Because your amount of work multiplies exponentially because you have to do keyword research, you have to do market research, you have to understand the vocabulary of the industry, you have to figure out what the pain points are in those industries both for the consumer and for the business owner.
Because if you're the business owner that you can help them market their products and services, you need to understand the consumer's mindset, but you also have to understand the business owner's mindset. So that you can talk to them and speak their language, build rapport with them. So you have to learn two different markets for every industry you enter, the consumer market and the business market. Right?
There's just so much work that goes into learning, becoming a marketing special or professional in any industry. It requires a ton of research. So if you try to just say, “Oh, I'm gonna be a local marketing guy and I'll talk to any business in my area that will talk to me,” you're gonna create a shit ton of additional work that you can significantly reduce. You'll gain a lot more traction a lot faster in your business if you focus in on one particular industry because then you can craft everything you do in your business around that particular industry. All your marketing messages, all your keyword research, your content templates, everything that you do can be designed around that one particular industry. Now you become a specialist.
I use this as an example. Would you go to a general health practitioner for a heart surgery? No, you go to a cardiologist. Why do you think businesses, like let's say home remodeling contractors or general contractors, would they want to go to a me-too agency or would they want to go to a contractor media, contractor marketing agency that specializes in general and remodeling contractor marketing? Does that make sense? Which one would you prefer?
Gordon, I recommend specializing in on one industry. But don't just arbitrarily decide on what industry you wanna focus in on and say, “I'm gonna build my business around that,” you need to research that industry and determine, is there a call volume? Is there significant interest in that? Is there money there?
What's one of the ways that you can determine that? An easy and simple and a quick way is go do a search for the product and/or service as if you were a customer looking for that product or service. Just go do a Google search for it and take a look and see, are there ads? Are there Google ads? If so, that means there's paying advertisers. If there's Google ads, that means people are paying to bid on those keywords, which means there's likely traffic for those keywords. If there wasn't traffic for those keywords and if those keywords didn't convert, there wouldn't be ads. Does that make sense? People don't pay and bid on keywords-, well, good advertisers don't pay and bid on keywords that don't convert or don't generate traffic that converts. Right? So if you're seeing Google ads, that's a good indication.
Now I wouldn't stop there. I'd research it further. You could do things, like use Google Trends to find out where in the country, or in the world for that matter, but I always do US-based searches, you can find out where the hotspots are for where the search traffic is the most or the search interest is the most for the types of products or services that you'd be promoting in that industry. Right? So then, you can start to develop out which locations you're gonna target first for your business. Does that make sense?
Remember, specialize on one industry, guys, because then you can scale your business by geography instead of by type or kind. Does that make sense? Instead of trying to scale your business by taking on new industries where you're gonna create so much additional work, scale your business by continuing with the same industry but expanding your service area or your territory, your target area. Right?
That's a hell of a lot better or much more efficient way to build your business. Not only that, in time you will build a name and a reputation for being that type of a marketing specialist for that particular industry. People will start to seek you out as opposed to you having a force or push your marketing, your services onto others. People will start to seek you out because they know that you're the specialist. Does that make sense?
How do you determine whether there's enough search traffic? You have to research it. Make sure it's an industry that has paying advertisers. Make sure that there is significant search interest for those types of things and that it's profitable.
As I said about in the past, carpet cleaning, there's a ton of search interest for carpet cleaning but there's very, very, very small margins in the carpet cleaning industry. Right? Carpet cleaning companies don't particularly like to pay for marketing services or for lead generation services, they don't have the budgets for it because their margins are very small.
But if you just did keyword research, which is, when I first started, the very first lead gen site I ever built was carpetcleaningalexandriava.com. I don't own that anymore, but it was a lead gen site that I built because all I did was base my decision on which industry I was gonna target based upon keyword search volume from the Google Keyword Planner. It said something like 600 exact match searches for that term “carpet cleaning Alexandria VA” per month. It was like 660 or something like that, 600 searches per month. So I said, “Oh man, there's a lot of search volume there. I can make money with that.”
Well, I built the site and got it ranked number one. We were getting 30 to 40 calls a week through that lead gen site and I had trouble monetizing it for even a hundred dollars a month. No shit. Then when I finally got down to the chewy center of why that was by sitting down with the contractor that was renting that site from me or leasing that site from me, he told me, “Because the carpet cleaning business has very, very small margins.” Right? Very small margins. He was making something ridiculous, per carpet cleaning job $8 or $9 or $10, or $12 in profit. It was something stupid. After paying his labor and insurance costs and, the cleaning solution costs, and all of this overhead, he had a very small margin so he had trouble paying for that.
What happened? I ended up switching into other higher margin businesses. That's why I love the tree service industry because it's huge margin. That's why I like remodeling contractors, home builders, HVAC repair, any sort of repair, roofers, all those types because the margins are so much larger. Does that make sense?
Again, you have to do the research, Gordon. There's no real easy answer there. You just got to be logical and do the research and you should be able to find the opportunities as well as the perfect industry. Also, one last thing I would suggest about that is, seriously, guys, try to find an industry that you, not only has all the correct signals or markers of being a good industry to work at, but also one that you have a genuine interest in because it'll make it feel less like work. Okay.
Honestly, I don't have any interest in tree services, except for the fact that that does make me some damn good money, which kind of makes it interesting. But if you can find an industry that you have a genuine interest in, it'll feel less like work while you're building your business.
Anybody wanna comment on that before I move on? That was a long-winded answer I know.
Marco: No, but it was perfect. There's no need to go into that any further.
How Do You Set Up The Syndication Network Of Several GMB Sites In Same Metro Area?
Michael, I don't recommend a syndication network for lead gen assets unless you need them. For example, if you're having trouble getting a lead gen asset to push another 3-pack, can a syndication network will help for that? Then, absolutely.
The other thing is, if you have a cluster of Google My Business profiles for a metropolitan area that are all branded the same, then you could use one syndication network for those. When you talk about grabbing the GMB RSS feeds, I'm not sure what you mean from that, unless you're using our GMB auto poster which will generate an RSS feed, but you can't just get an RSS feed, at least not that I'm aware of.
Marco, this may have changed, but is there an RSS feed from the GMB websites yet?
Marco: Not that I know of. Not that I'm aware of.
Bradley: Okay. Yeah. As far as I'm aware, there is not an RSS feed from the GMB websites. So our GMB auto poster will create an RSS feed from the GMB posts that are connected through that auto poster or that are posted with that auto poster. So you can do it that way. But like I said, you should have a common brand for all of those assets, if that's the case. If you want to feed them all into one network, which again, I'm gonna be 100% transparent with you guys, I'm not building syndication networks for my lead gen assets. I build syndication networks for clients because I tell them that it's critical. It is because it's brand building, it's entity validation and brand authority building, right?
So any client, I'm gonna tell them. “You should have a syndication network to protect your brand and to amplify your brand, expand your reach. It also helps to build your authority and all that kind of stuff.” For content marketing, all my clients, I suggest we do regular content marketing, blogging that gets syndicated out to the syndication network. That's all true. It's not just because I wanna charge them money, guys, it's to protect their brand and to help them to stay ranked.
But for lead gen assets, that's an additional expense. So why implement that? Until and unless you need to, right? So for my lead gen assets that I'm building right now, I'm not using syndication networks. If I have lead gen assets that I do all the other magic that I work to them and they don't end up producing, because maybe they're not ranking well or that area ended up being more competitive than I originally thought, then I may add a syndication network. But that's only if and when it's absolutely needed. It's kind of like a last resort thing because it's an additional expense that I don't wanna have to put up for a lead gen asset if I can get results without it.
Now once you've monetized an asset, a lead gen or, in this case, a multiple assets, once you've monetized them, I've talked about this too, if once you've developed it … Like for me, when I monetize a lead gen asset, what I do is after several months, two or three months of the service provider paying on time and there's no issues, if we develop a decent relationship, then I offer at that point to rebrand those lead gen assets after the client, certainly their name. It's a lot more legit that way, right?
Like I said, at that point, once I would offer the rebranding, then that's where I could upsell them on, “Hey, since we're gonna be rebranding these, we should also go to syndication network because it's gonna help to protect your brand and we can use that to help continue to push the lead gen assets that I'm gonna rebrand. It'll help to continue to keep them producing for you, blah blah blah blah blah.”
At that point, we set up syndication network. Might even set them up on content marketing services. That's an additional charge beyond the lead gen leasing or pay per lead fees that I'm charging. Depending on how I've monetized that asset, this is now starting to build their asset, syndication network with their branding, building, doing content marketing on their website.
So now I'm double dipping, right? Now I'm generating money from my lead gen assets and also working on the client's assets as a separate fee. Right? So it gives you a whole lot of opportunity, Michael. But for your lead gen assets, I don't recommend setting up syndication network unless you absolutely need to. Try to get results without it. Guys, I am the firm believer of trying to get the most results or trying to get the best results with the least amount of effort possible and least amount of money invested too.
Should You Create A Blog Post If You Syndicate A GMB Post?
Quit This House, use the GMB auto poster. I'm telling you, it's stupid and expensive, it's super convenient and efficient, and it can generate an RSS feed from your GMB posts, and then you can just connect that directly to a syndication network, and then, viola, it's done. You don't have to go … Right now, what you're talking about would require a manual action for every post. Right?
If you just set it up through the auto poster, you can, not only schedule out your GMB post all in one setting so that they automatically publish on the day and time that you select, but it will also generate an RSS feed that then you can populate or trigger a syndication network with, and all of that is automated.
Marco: By the way, since we're back on the auto poster, I got an answer from Rob and he says, yes, we'll be able to silo based on tagging. So you can create multiple silos within the auto poster just by tagging, by using different tags. The function isn't integrated yet, but it's coming. It's already being developed, guys. Those of you who are looking to get into this, get in there now because it just keeps …
Shripad is a master programmer. He just keeps adding to it more and more functionality and he's now charging more. We're not gonna charge more monthly yet. If it gets to the point where there's just a ton of programming that needs to be done, the price will probably need to go up. But we usually grandfather people into the prices where they are, so remember that.
Bradley: Yeah. Michael says, “Holy crap, I can't believe I got the $1,000 Local Lease Pro course for $47.” Yeah, Michael. Look, for eight days, we promoted shit out of that and told everybody that once the Side Hustle Toolbox offer closed that it was gonna, I originally said it was gonna go to 500, but it's such a damn good course. I mean, I'm telling you, this is I think the most opportunity I've seen in my local marketing career, that Local Lease Pro method right there. That's why we made it $1,000.
Not only that, but we're gonna be updating the course. Like I said, I've got some new stuff to add to it. That as soon as I get my VA on track for the new changes and I polish up the processes a little bit, I'm gonna be sharing that, I'll be updating Local Lease Pro. So, yeah, you're right. Good thing that you got in on it.
Abe says, “Hi. Can it hurt or help to have … ” By the way, guys, if you want Local Lease Pro, if you don't have it, there's only two options, you can buy it for 1,000 bucks or you can join the Mastermind and you can get it included in your Mastermind membership. So it's entirely up to you, but I would recommend it. I mean, guys, it's even worth $1,000, I'm not kidding, because of the opportunity. I'm telling you, it's the most opportunity I've seen in my eight, almost nine year career now. Okay.
Does It Hurt Or Help To Have Multiple Syndication Networks?
Abe says, “Hi. Can it hurt or help to have multiple syndication networks?” Yes, it can, Abe. Not for YouTube channels-, well, depending on how they were set up, but if you're using syndication networks for blog syndication to try to rank your own domain, like a self-hosted site, then, yes, multiple syndication networks can hurt you, depending on how you have it set up and how you have a syndication set up,
I've said for years now, like we teach branded tier one syndication networks and we also talked about when we teach how to build two-tier syndication networks. You can take it out multiple tiers. But I've also recommended for years that you only use two-tier syndication networks on YouTube channels or multi-tiered syndication networks on YouTube channels or for YouTube syndication, not for blog syndication.
However, if you wanna do it for blog syndication, I do teach in Syndication Academy and I've talked about it multiple times how you can use multi-tiered syndication networks and reduce the chance of getting a Google slap. You cannot eliminate it because you are still leaving a footprint. But you can significantly reduce the footprint if you add additional content feeds as triggers into your second or third tiers. Right? Because what you wanna do is you wanna mask or bury your content among a whole lot of additional route relevant and related type content so that the blogs don't show or appear to be solely for manipulating search rankings. Right? And that's essentially what they are.
Again, with multi-tiered syndication networks, I don't recommend them for blog syndication unless you know what you're doing and you're willing to put forth all the additional effort. Also, multitude syndication networks can break down because there's a lot of moving pieces, there's a lot of different content sources, which can cause you know different RSS feeds that you don't have control over because they're not your RSS feeds, which can cause problems. Multi-tiered syndication networks can be a bitch to maintain for that reason and so that's another reason I don't recommend them.
If you are just flatly syndicating your content to multiple syndication networks and you're not masking or hiding your footprint, then you are absolutely causing damage because it is clearly, the algorithm can pick that up in a split second. Right? Again, Abe, if you were gonna be building these types of stuff, like I said, the only way that … We have Syndication Academy where I talk about all of that stuff, seriously, I go into your best practices and everything about how to use them and where to use them. But for blog syndication, I highly recommend that you just use a one-tier branded syndication network and then you can boost the hell out of that. Okay.
Marco: Yeah. He also says that he's used lower standard contractors in the past and he's considering using our services on top. Dude, if you've done that, then don't get a syndication network from us until you fix whatever it is that you've done. I suggest totally getting into Syndication Academy, seeing how it's all supposed to work. I hope that you have access to all of these networks and multiple rings that have been done for you so that you can just stop whatever madness it was that was created and you could do it the right way. The way that it's supposed to be done, which is branding. It's done for branding and for syndicating your network. Yeah. It is done to manipulate but to manipulate in the right way. If you get caught manipulating the wrong way, you're going to get slapped down.
What's The Difference Between The Press Release Service In Serp Space And MGYB?
Bradley: That's right. Ray says, “What is the difference between press release service from Serp Space, and MGYB? Are they overlapping and/or equivalent? They're equivalent now, Ray, because, well, there's two different levels of press releases orders from Serb Space. There was the press release and then press release plus. The press release was, the press advantage network, the distribution network, and that's we have now a separate account. We have our own press advantage distribution network agreement with them that is available in MGYB. It's basically the same distribution network. So it's up to you if you wanna order from Serp Space or if you wanna come to MGYB which is owned and controlled entirely by Semantic Mastery and my partners. If that makes sense.
Serp Space was a collaboration. We are no longer part of that. There's no issues there or anything like that. I'm just letting you know, if you wanna order directly from us, it's through MGYB. Okay. Good question.
Should We Link From GMB Biz.Site Description?
Doodle Digital Marketing, I like that. He says, “Hey guys, I love Hump Day Hangouts. Tons of value. “Should we link out from the GMB biz site description?” Not … Well, wait a minute, the GMB, yes. You can link from the GMB website content. I don't know about the description. But if you're talking about the GMB business description, no, you can't put links in that; that's short. I think it only allows 750 characters. But if you're talking about the GMB website, yes, you can link out to that.
What I don't recommend doing a lot of external links, unless it makes sense, it has to be relevant guys, remember, this is a Google property, so I would not be doing some stupid “I'm gonna link to a .gov or .edu site for authority” because that's bullshit and it has been for years. If it's relevant, then, yes. If it's not relevant, you're just doing it because you learn that somewhere on some stupid SEO program somewhere, don't do it because that's dumb.
But what I would recommend doing is, I always link, and I teach this, but I always link from the GMB website text, the content body of the website, I always link to the GMB maps share URL, as well as to the GMB website. So it's linking to itself, right? If you have an external website, so self-hosted website, you can link to that. That makes sense. You could also link to some of your social media stuff. That makes sense. Any type of branded property that you could link out.
Again, I wouldn't spam the description or the GMB website content with a bunch of exterior external links, I would keep it … Really that's why I usually just link from the GMB website to itself and also to the GMB maps share URL because those are Google properties. Right? So just consider that.
It's after five o'clock, I don't have to get my daughter-, or I don't get to have my daughter for dinner tonight, so I do have a couple extra minutes. Marco, can you hang out for a few extra?
Marco: Yeah, I can hang out for a few extra. My daughter isn't crying it.
“Then we also create all the content via writing and optimizing it, which we charge for, and then we do web design with SEO strategy pre-launch. I couldn't build a drive stack if my life depended on it. Haha.” Yeah, that's great. I mean, honestly, guys, those are the audience that are tech nerds and like to get their hands dirty, so to speak, roll up their sleeves and get to work. Then, RYS Academy will teach you how to build drive stacks. It's a lot of work. You can benefit from RYS stacks without having to learn how to build them, by just buying them done for you and you'll save yourself a shit ton of time and energy.
Again, I'm not trying to discourage anybody from buying the course, I'm just saying you got to consider where to spend your time. Is learning how to build drive stacks going to progress your business? It might. You have to make that decision. I can't make that decision for you. Or is the benefit and the result that the drive stack can produce going to help your business? And if so, then why go through the trouble of learning how to build them when you could just purchase them done for you and receive the benefit that you were seeking to begin with? Does that make sense? Then that way you could spend your time focusing on how to sell it or how to monetize it or how to apply it to get the result that you're seeking. Does that make sense?
Again, guys, you have to think about it on a higher level. That's what I think is really wrong with our industry, is that everybody teaches, or the vast majority of products tell you, “Hey, we're gonna teach you how to do this one skill.” Yeah, I'm not trying to take that away from anybody. That skill is valuable. Whatever that skill may be, it's valuable. But just because you know how to get a result from it, one particular skill does not make you a business owner, it does not make it a profitable business for you. Right?
So you got to think about how are you going to make money from whatever it is you choose to do? Is doing that thing, being the mechanic or the technician, is that actually going to make you the money or is selling that service and the result that that service produces going to make you the money? If that's the case, then why don't you focus on learning how to sell it and find people that are already good at doing it, fulfilling it, to do it for you right.
That's what we're trying to get at, guys, and Jordan understands that. That's why Jordan's business is cranking, it's just kicking ass. Okay.
Any Black Friday Sales For Done For You Services Or Training?
Marco: It's the pre. We will have something. Something's coming your way and it's gonna be good. Trust me. It's not Black Friday yet, dude. But we will have something. It'll be big. We control MGYB now. As Bradley mentioned, it's ours. Semantic Mastery is our own store. So we've got some really good stuff coming your way.
Luis, I will be talking to you on Monday, as a matter of, fact. It's his onboarding call. Again, I'm sorry, all these Mastermind questions keep coming up or Mastermind people. As part of the onboarding process, we give people a half hour call just to get them pointed in the right direction, to see where they're going, where they want to be. So we ask questions, we try to provide guidance. I just happened to get Luis.
Guys, you can't ask for who you want. You're going to get whoever is up on the calendar, because we rotate since there's five of us. But whoever you get, you're going to get the direction that you need and you're going to get your questions answered so that you can get started on your way to POFU.
That's what we want you to do. We want you to get started getting to that place where you're going to be and say, “Okay. Now I don't have to deal with shitty clients. I don't have to deal with shitty people. I am at a place where I can go into any negotiation from a position of power. I know what I'm worth. If this guy gives me any flack, I'm gonna have to say ‘Fuck you. I'm gonna go to your competitor and charge them half price just because I feel like it, because I don't need you.'” That's what we want you to be.
Bradley: There you go so. Yes, Black Friday is this Friday. So, yeah, there will be some other specials. I don't usually get involved with what promotions we're doing, guys, so I couldn't answer that. But I'm glad Marco said, yeah, we do have something coming Friday.
Should You Use Only The Main Keyword Phrase Or Should You Diversify Them When Building Links To All Assets?
Bradley: “But now I want to take on the main and most competitive keyword. I'm adding a silo of content to the RYS stack targeting the main keyword. So far so good. My question is when embarking on link building to all assets, like RYS, Syndication Network, GMB website, et cetera, should I use only the main keyword phrase or must I diversify the keyword phrases?”
Jay, diversify. What I recommend you do is go pool your … You should have probably already done keyword research anyways, so if you're gonna be siloing, you should have your keyword themes relatively tight for the silos anyways. So make sure that if you're gonna be direct targeting link building on a silo basis, that you're only using a set of keywords that fall within that particular silo or keyword theme. Right? Does that make sense?
Let me take this down to a local level because what I wanna explain is, guys, when you're doing a ton of like spam link building and such to power up tier one entities, which would be like drive stacks, press release, organization pages, syndication networks, even citations, you don't want to hit, and I'm gonna say local because that's primarily what I work on, and I'm assuming that's what you're talking about here anyways. You said client ranks, so it's likely it's locally You said 3-pack. Right?
So you don't wanna use the keywords with the location modifiers. You can use a very small percentage of your overall keywords that you're gonna add to the anchor text or the link building that you're gonna be either doing or buying a package or whatever. You can have a very, very small percentage with location modifiers, but I would keep that to an absolute bare minimum. Because it's more about pushing the theme, the keyword theme, not the location, or the geographic theme, if that makes sense, it's not about pushing location relevancy.
Because think about it, the further you move away from a local business the more broader the market segment is. In other words, you don't wanna be targeting keywords or link building to tier 1 assets all the way down to the local level, including local location modifier, because it's, remember your link building to tier one assets is two hops away from your target which would be your GMB asset or your primary website, the client's website, or whatever, the further you get away from the ultimate target, the ultimate destination, the broader your keyword set should be, the broader the theme of the keyword set.
That's why I say I don't like to include local modifiers and anchor text when I'm building links to tier one assets. Instead I use higher or market-level keywords, broader market keywords. What do I mean by that? Instead of water heater repair Fairfax Virginia or Fairfax VA as a keyword that I would use as an anchor, it would be water heater repair and plumbing and plumbing repair and plumbing service, if that makes sense. I'd lose the local modifier and use more broader market-level keywords. Okay.
Also, you don't wanna do entirely 100% on anchor text links, even with a diverse set of keywords. You wanna also include naked URLs and some generics. You can even use some brand terms at that point. It's a little bit odd to use brand terms at tier two links because that's again two steps away from your target URL. But it does make sense if you're link building to, for example, if it's a tier one branded property it can make sense to also include the brand name in some of those anchor text too. Right? I would just use those sparingly as well. It's more about the keyword relevancy at that point in naked URLs, which is just pushing link equity to those tier one assets regardless of anchor text.
Marco, do you wanna comment on that at all?
Marco: Yeah, thanks, Bradley. What I would recommend is reach out to Dedia. We have a Dedia, he knows exactly what to do with your RYS stack to get the most out of it.
Marco: If needed, then get our keyword research gig because we will come up with thousands upon thousands of keyword targets for you to either add relevance or to push, we provide what's called buoyancy. “Buoyancy,” that's one of the words that I have difficulty with. But we help push up the main keyword by providing relevance throughout the keyword silo. We give you all that with the keyword research.
Then, all you do is turn that over to Dedia and say, “Here, this is the folder that I've created, this is the keyword that I'm targeting, have at it.” Dedia has been with us long enough that he just knows, okay, this is what I need to do. He'll blast it. He'll hammer that RYS stack so that it produces.
Bradley: That's right. You don't have to worry about all those ratios and stuff, Jay. I know. I mean, honestly, I don't worry about any of that stuff anymore because I don't ever do any of that stuff anymore. If I need it, I just contact Dedia, exactly what Marco said, and I just say, “Hey, this is what I got. This is what I'm trying to accomplish. Make it happen,” and he does it.
Honestly, guys, that's what I'm talking about. Jay, again, I don't wanna get back on this pitch again, but if you have your own tools and you're running your own link building tools and stuff like that, that's great, if you're efficient and all that. But if you're not, which I am not, I have no desire to run those tools, just let the expert do it and Dedia has an absolute ninja. He's an expert, a link building expert, so that's why I just turned it over to him, defer to him anytime I have something that I need to spam to push additional link equity to. I just contact him say, “This what I got is what I need you do, make it happen,” and he does it. All right.
Jay vouches for the GMB auto poster. He says, “It's great and Shripad does great work. He is very responsive in Support. I can attest to that too, not just because it's me, but every time there's an issue a little support bubble on the bottom right corner of the auto poster, you can just contact Support through there and he's very, very responsive.”
Would You Recommend Using One Website For Multiple GMB Locations?
So instead of just using the home root domain, so the home page of the website for that brand across all different GMB assets, create a location specific page on that domain and then use that URL as that landing page URL as the website in GMB. It's perfectly fine to do that, guys. But what you want is, if it's the same brand, you can share the same brand name across all GMB locations. That's fine. But you want a unique URL and a unique phone number and a unique address, if possible. Okay.
Strange NAP issues occur if you have two or more of the data points, the primary data points in a citation or NAP, which would be name, address, phone number, and also website URL. If you have two or more common data points among multiple locations, that's going to cause NAP issues, which is going to make it very difficult to rank. You can have one common data point, typically the business name, because it's a brand that can be used across multiple GMBs as long as the other primary data points are unique, physical address, phone number, website address. Does that make sense? So, yes, it's possible.
Now one other thing I would mention is go back through, Abe, watch some of our previous Hump Day Hangouts. We'll talk about the difference between using location pages, which would be pages on the root domain, or using location-specific sub-domains, which are separate WordPress installations, but there's a reason to do, that's to help mitigate risk, potential losing all of your assets if you were to catch a penalty. Again, we just talked about this last week, go back and watch the replay from last week and I'm pretty sure we talked about that extensively, about the benefit of using sub-domains over sub-folders or sub-directories. That's pretty much the same thing I'm talking about here.
“Where's the GMB auto poster?” John, just posting the Mastermind, we'll get to the link.
Marco: I posted the link higher up.
Bradley: Yeah. I just didn't have it. Thank you, Marco. Nestor says, Hey, I got to go guys. I got to wrap this up. So, anyways, and there's Rob with the yearly discount for the GMB agency offer. That's the enterprise account level or subscription level, which is 200 posts per month-, or excuse me 500 posts per month capacity. If you buy it on a monthly basis, subscribe month to month, it's $200. If you buy the yearly license … It's $200 per month, excuse me. If you buy the yearly license, it's 1,000 bucks, divided by 12, comes out to be $84 dollars or $83 per month. So it's a hell of a lot cheaper that way.
By the way, if you're scheduling out 31 posts, which there's a post scheduling feature, which is amazing in the GMB auto poster, so you can schedule out one post a day or however many you want. Let's just say you're doing one post a day, you could do 31 days. Then, there's a republish option to where it can republish the post based upon the interval that you set. For example, if you set every 31 days, you can publish, you can schedule out 31 posts and then have them republish 31 days later, each post thereafter. Right? Does that make sense?
So day one and then day 32, that post publishes again. Day two and day 33, that post publishes again. Does that make sense? That way you can set up all of your posting and in an automated fashion. Well, with 500 posts per month, if you were to actually fill out or post one per day for each location, you can essentially put 16 locations in one enterprise account. Sixteen times 31 comes out to be 496, so you get 496 posts. Essentially, you can serve 16 locations, 100% one post per day with a single enterprise account. Does that make sense?
That's how I'm clustering my sites right now. I gave you a little insight on that.
Marco: Yeah. I mean, it's an awesome deal because it saves so much money and then the auto poster just saves so much time and effort. Once your VAs get proficient with going in there and just scheduling and putting everything up, it just saves you a ton of time of money. So you'll make the money back that you invest in this just by the time you're gonna save with your VAs, or even if you try to do it on your own, which you shouldn't be doing.
Bradley: Yeah. Just so you guys are aware, for clients, I have a VA that goes in and manually posts for all the clients. I do that for a reason because every post is 100% unique that way. She still has content templates, but she goes in and she puts in a new image every time, and the content templates she uses, there's tokens that she swaps out with different keywords and such. The target URLs are always being recycled to whatever we're linking to from the GMB post and all that. So they become unique for clients.
I pay my VA on a per post basis. So I pay her, for every post that she publishes she gets paid. It varies between $3.50 to $5 per post. But I charge my clients $10 to $15 per post, depending on what the volume is. So my point is, I make money on that even though she's manually posting.
However, for lead gen assets, guys, once again, just like I was telling … Shit, who was I telling earlier? Michael. I was telling Michael earlier not to worry about syndication networks for lead gen assets because you wanna reduce expenses. Well, I don't want to pay a VA to manually post to lead gen assets because that's an additional expense when I can pay for-, or subscribe to the auto poster, schedule all the posts.
Do I do all these guys? Hell, no. I've trained a VA to go in and set up or schedule all the posts within the GMB auto poster and then schedule them to republish. So that, literally, I can pay a VA for three or four hours to schedule out, however long it takes them, to schedule all those posts out. Then, it's done and those GMB assets will continually update posts because of the auto poster and I'm not paying anymore other than for the auto poster subscription. Does that make sense? So it's a hell of a lot more efficient with money too. Right? It's more cost-effective. Okay.
I'm not quite sure I understand, in the wording of your question, what you mean by mybrand.wordPress. I understand WordPress.com, that's fine. That's a brand identity property that you can create on the WordPress.com site, kind of like what I showed earlier. But, yeah, that's normal. That goes into Syndication Network, right? You try to get your brand name as a sub-domain blah blah blah. That's pretty standard.
But, “point to GMB property three links as a press release,” I'm not sure what that means. Can you point to a GMB property from your WordPress.com site? Sure. Can you also use press releases to link to that WordPress.com site? Sure. You can also link to your GMB.
I'm doing a press releases, Local PR Pro method is what I use and, as standard operating procedure, I published a press releases with every GMB asset, it gets created. Usually, my preferred method is to link from the first press release to the GMB, the Google Maps share URL, to the Google the GMB website URL, and to the GMB the first post URL. We teach that at Local Lease Pro and that's just essentially my method. So I'm going direct from the press releases to the Google assets. Okay.
Yeah. Guys, there's a thousand ways to skin a cat, right? So our method isn't the be-all end-all. It's just our method works for what we want it to work for and that's what we teach. Other people have other methods that may very well work as good as ours. I'm not trying to say that ours is better than anybody else's. I'm just telling you what we teach, I don't know what they teach. I'm sorry. It's likely that that would work too.
Thanks, Will. That's awesome. In fact, Will, if you would, I mean, if you're cool with it, you can even send the update right in the Mastermind community so that everybody else could benefit from it. If not, send it to me and I'll update everybody in the Mastermind, and Syndication Academy for that matter, once I see it. Thank you for that, Will.
Okay. “Link to pre-Black Friday deals, please.” Yeah. Luis, just contact us at Support.
That's it. Okay, guys, we're way over. We got all questions answered, though.
Marco: That was a good one.
Bradley: Thanks, Marco, for hanging out, man, I appreciate it.
Marco: Marathon. All right, dude.
Bradley: All right, everybody. Mastermind webinar tomorrow. Be there or be square. See y'all.
Adam: Let's get ready to rumble. Wait a second. All right. It's Hump Day Hangouts everybody. Welcome to Hump Day Hangouts Episode 209. The one where the guys think I went running in the woods right before I showed up here. Let's go down the line before we hop into announcements. We got some really good stuff to share with you guys, but we'll say hi. Chris, how are you doing, man?
Chris: Doing good. Good weather in Florida this time. [Crosstalk 00:00:25] Yep.
Adam: Nice, awesome, awesome. Hernan, how goes it, man?
Hernan:I'm great. I'm really excited. We might or might not have some pictures of you and I running in the woods. So that might go or might not go into an ad somewhere sometime soon. But we'll see. That's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited for what's coming. I'm excited for all of the good feedback that we got from POFU Live 2018. I'm excited for people who are getting the tickets for POFU Live 2019. That's pretty cool to see too. So, really good.
Adam: Awesome. Marco, how goes things down south for you?
Marco: Running is not in my vocabulary, woods or otherwise. Slow and steady wins the race, man.
Adam: Fair enough. We'll, I've got to ask you, it's been a couple of weeks, how's the weather?
Marco: It's beautiful. We're in transition to the dry season. It's nice and warm, 80, 85. We get an afternoon shower here and there, but otherwise bright sunny. Come on down.
Adam: Awesome, awesome. Bradley, last but not least, how are you doing?
Bradley: Balls deep in GMB stuff. Hi, everybody.
Adam: For those who don't know, that's a good term. Bradley's been doing a lot of work. I think you've been working with the accountability group to people who were at POFU Live who are interested and kind of going along with you as far as kind of a 90-day sprint.
Bradley: Yeah. It was really a 13-week, 90 days, roughly 13 weeks. This was something that I decided to do after we had developed all the content for POFU Live. I said that I was gonna be sharing how to scale the Local Lease Pro method. I'm working on developing all the processes and stuff so that I don't have to be responsible for any of the work really and the entire thing can be done. That entire Local Lease Pro method can be taught and completed by virtual assistants, by people that I've trained to do it, so that my business can grow without it relying on me, which is part of the … And that's really the problem that I think most of us face in this business is we all end up doing everything or most everything in our businesses and it creates a kind of a bottleneck and it's very hard to scale beyond a certain point. I've seen that occur in my own business.
The whole point of what I wanted to share at POFU Live was the processes to remove myself from this so that my business could grow. Right? I wanted to share that with everybody in the group. And I did, right? But, first of all, it wasn't fully developed. It's still in process right now because I create rough processes first and then I go back and refine them as we become more efficient and better. So we ended up having to keep redeveloping the processes as we keep refining them. Eventually, it will be a very polished process that will be a lot easier and simpler to, not only perform, but also to train to new people. So that we can train more virtual assistants to build more assets for us.
Anyways, originally, when I shared the training at the POFU Live event it was in its in a very rough format because it was like the first iteration or first version of it. So I've told all the members that I wanted to also create this accountability group where I would meet with everybody on a weekly basis. Just one hour a week, on Mondays, we're meeting.
Over the course of 13 weeks, we all set the goal of developing out 50 GMB assets, lead gen assets, at the end of 90 days. That's an achievable goal. That's five properties per week over the course of 12 weeks. The first week was really just preparation, so it's 13 week process, but as 12 weeks of what we called a sprint. Right? Sprint was the GMB optimizing, finding and secure optimizing five GMB profiles per week over the course of 12 weeks, which would give us a target of 60, but I said I would settle for 50. That's a very achievable, reasonable goal. Some of us in the group are going way beyond 50 in that same 90-day period.
Basically, the accountability group, we're meeting on a weekly basis and just kind of like talking through issues that arise. We're also setting goals on a weekly basis. I'm telling everybody action items that they should complete to kind of keep them on track to hit that 50 GMB target at the end of 12 weeks.
It's been really good because one of the things it's done for me is it's forced me to continue developing out the processes, because I've made myself accountable to all the other members in the group, which is about 12 or 13 of us at this point. But it's good because if I had not made myself accountable to those members of the group, then it's likely that I would get sidetracked, like I often do, and not complete all the processes. Which means I would still be responsible for doing most of the work because I hadn't created the processes to train others.
It's been really good and beneficial to me. I hope it's beneficial to the others as well. I guess really, once the process is completed through these 12 or 13 weeks with the members that have joined me, because they're all participating, it helped me to develop and refine the processes, we will have a very efficient process for being able to develop GMB lead gen assets from start to finish at the end of these 12 or 13 weeks, that then we're going to release to the Mastermind members.
All of that was to tell you guys, if you're serious about building a lead gen business or even a local marketing consulting business, I would highly recommend that you join our Mastermind because we're gonna have a business in a box completely done for you, process docs, process training that you can hire your own VAs and put them through and everything to where you won't even have to do any of the damn work. The only place you're gonna be able to get that is either in a Mastermind or POFU Live 2019. So I would encourage you to come join us while you can.
Marco: Before you go on, I'd just like to give Bradley some affirmation on Local Lease Pro because he's given enough away in the Mastermind and through Hump Day Hangouts where you could go and do it and build a business.
Listen, just the stuff that he's giving away, I haven't been through any of the training or anything, but I don't care because I know what he's doing. Anyway, went and got 11 verified GMBs. That's it. Verified. All I did was target correctly. As Bradley teaches you, go you use the software. The software isn't any secret. It's free. In fact, it's the most timeless software in the world as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, 11, right? As soon as they popped in, I mean, we got 12 calls. Now granted, as Bradley teaches, most of them will be spam calls in the beginning, but that means that you're on the radar. We actually got a few good calls and this is just with verification; we did nothing else. We targeted the right place. If you look at the GMB, it's blank, no images, no nothing, just the info. Right? Well, just garbage info.
If it works that well without doing anything, without applying local GMB Pro, Local PR Pro, and everything else that we can do to push these up in the 3-pack into the Google Freshness algorithm, into the mobile algorithm, so guys, imagine what the fuck you could do, or what I could do with these, once I start the process the way that Bradley teaches it. So that's all coming. But I mean, just nothing, nothing but verification and it's already getting calls. So, Bradley, you rock, man.
Bradley: Thanks, man, I'm all shocks.
Adam: Bradley, real quick, when you talked about doing this sprint and we have real quick, guys, everyone listen, we're gonna get on to some announcements and some good stuff soon, but I wanted to share with you because I think this is interesting and something we shared in the presentation in Local Lease Pro and POFU Live. Bradley, we're doing something for 90 days like this, and this is I think is on the low-end, but what's like a revenue projection for that?
Bradley: Well, if everybody was to hit the target of 50 GMBs and use kind of the rule of thumb as like the low-end for monetizing each individual asset and the simple way to monetize them which is just lease them out. That's the rank and rent model. You don't need all the tracking in place, the infrastructure, if you're selling leads. If you're doing on paper lead basis, it requires a lot of additional tracking, additional management.
The Local Lease Pro method was an easy way to monetize it. It requires the least amount of management effort. So that's just to lease them out on a flat monthly fee per location. What I recommend is, if you're gonna do them on single basis, like single location basis, that you shouldn't rent them out for any less than around $250 a month. For some of you might think that that's awfully low, but trust me, that's not. Especially the way that we're targeting these GMB assets on a hyper local level, it's better to bundle them together and offer multiple locations as a package deal to a potential service provider or a client because you can use this method as a deal sweetener to land clients as opposed to just doing lead gen too.
I recommend bundling multiple locations together that fall within a specific service area and then offering a package deal. So, like a volume discount for bundling those locations together. For example, I recommend, and I don't want to give away too much here guys, that's why you got to come join the Mastermind, but I recommend securing multiple locations within a specific metro area. Right?
Within the service area of one city, you target multiple … I say metro area because that's typically what I'm doing, is I'm just targeting major metropolitan cities: Atlanta, Georgia; Tampa, Florida; Charlotte, North Carolina, all these great big cities and then we go through, when we create 10 or 12 different locations or secure 10 or 12 or a minimum of 10, or let's say a minimum of 10 GMB locations within that 25 mile radius of Atlanta, Georgia, for example. Then, once we've got those 10 GMBs, let's just say, a minimum of 10 GMBs secured, now we can offer that to one company, one service provider. Right?
Then we could say, “Okay. Look, all 10 of these I typically do it at $250 per location, but I'll rent you all 10 of these today for 1,500 a month,” or something like that. It could be more. It could be 2,000 a month. It's whatever the market will bear, what they're willing to pay for those kind of services, what are the leads worth, all that kind of stuff. That's gonna vary by industry. But as a rule of thumb, I would say off of 20-, or, excuse me, 50 GMB profiles, at the end even if you were to just monetize them at roughly $200 a piece, that's $10,000 a month. Think about that.
Bradley: It's a lot of money.
Adam: Well, yeah. I just wanna remind people that this is a pretty cool opportunity as well. I know there's people watching, literally, on Hump Day Hangout today who were in that group. So keep your eye on the prize and keep working, keep working the process.
Adam: Real quick, for those of you who are just joining us for the first time ever, thanks for watching Hump Day Hangouts. If you're checking out the replay, that's awesome too. You can hit subscribe if you're watching this on YouTube and stay up to date.
People ask us, “Hey, where should I start with Semantic Mastery?” and we tell you, “Get the Battle Plan.” All right. It's a good way to get repeatable results whether you're dealing with stuff like new sites, old sites, you're wondering how to use press releases, whatever it is you're trying to do, keyword research, we've got it, it's in there. Get it and help yourself. Then, if you're ready to take things up a few more notches, you can come through in the Mastermind. Obviously, we're gonna be talking about stuff like what Bradley just talked about, as well as damn near anything else you want to talk about as far as local digital marketing and beyond.
Beyond that though, if you want to get stuff done for you and save time, we always advise that you do this whenever you can reinvest in yourself, reinvest in your business. We've got the store where we sell services that we've created because we needed them and that's at Mgyb.co.
Now, speaking of services, I want to let you guys know to keep your eyes open. Next week, we're gonna have a real pre-Black Friday sale next week. We wanted to get something out ahead of time before everyone just gets swamped with kind of new or real or fake sales where businesses try to kind of tell you it's a sale but it's not. We got a really cool one for next week. I'm not going to tell you exactly what it is now and spoil the surprise. But then we're also gonna be doing some fun stuff with kind of the Black Friday timeframe out.
Marco, do you want to kind of tell them what we're thinking about?
Marco: Well, we're gearing up our annual charity drive. This is something that everyone knows is near and dear to me. I'll do a video. I don't want to spend too much time on this right now. I just want people to be aware that there's a whole lot of people out there that are way more unfortunate than you guys could ever imagine. Next time you're kicking yourself down because of all why it was me, why it was me, my life sucks a lot, life is hard, well, guys, you don't know the half of it. What we're trying to do is just make things easier for people who have nothing.
I mean, literally, literally, tomorrow, yeah, tomorrow, they might not eat tomorrow, they might lose their house tomorrow. This just happened in one of the places where we go one of the communities, they literally came through and took out the housing. I don't even wanna call it housing, the slums to build, access ramps, and to build a new route through there and since it was government property anyway. People are shit out of luck.
That's the kind of stuff. So not only do you not have anything, what little you have, the government comes in it just smashes it all, and then you're left with what? Right? You're out in inclement weather and nothing to eat. What do you do with kids and everything else? Anyway, it's difficult. As I said, we'll get more into it, but we're gonna tie it, right? Throw offers and what we'll be doing with the offers and what we're doing as far as the charity drive. We're gonna try to tie it all together. I wanna make I'm gonna make it really worthwhile for people to give.
But guys, give because your heart tells you to give, not because of what you get. Don't give because you might get something in return. Give because it's the right thing to do. It's unbelievable the feeling that you get when you give from your heart and you just truly put yourself out there and you give money, gift of yourself, give time. What you get back is much more than any monetary amount or whatever it is that you want to put on it. There's nothing that can compare to what you get back. I get more from the kids when I go. I learn more. I get more than any money that I could ever give. So that's my piece for now. More will be coming. We'll make it clearer as we go.
Adam: Outstanding. Yeah, some good stuff coming, you guys, so stay tuned. I think, on our end, that's it for updates and announcements. Are you guys ready to get into it?
Bradley: Yeah, man.
Hernan:Let's do it.
Bradley: All right. I'm gonna grab screen. By the way, I found some really interesting, we were targeting these GMBs on a hyper local level, guys, because of the mobile first index, that's what opened up, all this opportunity in July, the end of July. There's not a whole lot of people that are taking advantage of this right now, and that's a good thing.
But I found some really good opportunities for even major metro areas which would typically I wouldn't have touched with the 10-foot pole for local lead gen stuff because we all think that major metro areas are uber competitive and that they're just too difficult. But that was before the method that we've just developed because of the mobile first index. I'm finding wide open opportunities in even major metropolitan cities, guys. Wide open opportunities. It's absolutely insane.
I can't tell you much about it here, guys, this is a free venue. But I'm telling you, come join the Mastermind and all this stuff gets revealed. There's just more, I said this last week and I'll say this for as long as it still exists, there is more opportunity right now in local lead gen than there has ever been since I've been in the digital marketing space, which started in 2010.
Guys, I mean that from the bottom of my heart. So if you guys are not pursuing it, you're freaking crazy. Stop all the shiny objects shit and develop a real business that can generate real money. Like what we call fucking money, right? That's exactly what this can do right now. There's wide open opportunity and I don't know how long it will last. So I say take advantage of it while it's there.
Is There A Way To Bulk Add All Service Areas Now That Google Strips Out The Radius Option In GMB Listings?
Yeah. As far as I know you can name it by either zip code or you can do it by city or by county. Again, this is new. This has all happened within the last week. I've been in playing around with different configurations because sometimes, with an existing listing, if it's a service area business, Google will strip the address right from the listing under the new dashboard, under the new GMB dashboard. Google will strip the address right out of the listing. So it'll show in the info tab in GMB, it'll show add address, like the pencil icon, and it says “add address.” Well, if you go in and try to add an address to a service area of business that can trigger re-verification, at least that's what some of the people in our group have reported.
Fortunately, I haven't done that yet. What I'm doing is on the listings that have the business address stripped from it where it doesn't even exist anymore in the listing, in the GMB listing itself. That's fine. It doesn't bother me. Now, it's the service area, you can go in and set the service area. So depending on, I guess, Dustin, you've probably got a large service area, so what I would suggest you do is just go in and try to add the service area based upon county or city. Right? That's gonna be a lot.
For example, and the reason, I've been working on this stuff forever or a lot recently, but let me just show you what I mean. Where are we? We're in Georgia. You guys are seeing my screen, correct?
Bradley: Right. Let me show you what I mean. Here's one that I was just creating some process training for the accountability group, what we were just talking about. I was doing some location research training, which is this right here. Location research training. This is the process doc I've just developed for our group. You can see that for Memphis, guys, in fact, let me click into there. This shows Memphis covers 63 zip codes. Could you imagine one out …?
By the way, if you extract all this data and you get rid of all the unique and PO box ones that show zero population, it comes out to be it's roughly 23 zip codes. So 23 zip codes in Memphis, Tennessee. You're right, that would be a complete bitch. It would suck to have to go in and add 23 individual zip codes. So instead you should be able to just go in and type in Memphis and it will cover the whole area of Memphis, all of the zip codes. Does that make sense? I mean, that's just an example of how you would do it.
That's the way I'm doing it, because we're targeting on a hyper local level now, is I'm actually going in and just adding the zip code for the area that we've got the physical location in or perhaps a very small radius. How do I do that? Well, over at freemaptools.com, which is this site, here you see what it says “find zip codes inside of a radius.” Click on that and then you could do something like just a five-mile radius, if you're staying hyper local, or 10 mile, whatever. But five mile radius is typically I'm doing it because I'm trying to secure as many GMB assets in a metro area as possible. So when I have them spread out I only need a very, very small service area for the edges of those service areas to overlap. If that makes sense. So I end up with full coverage of the entire metro area with just a handful of listings. Right?
You can do that by just coming here and adding that in. For example, if I wanted to, I could come in here and just grab, let's say, this zip code 38109. I would come back over here and type in 38109. I would click draw radius. Now right there you'll see there's the three zip codes that I would add for that particular GMB listing. If I had a GMB listing in the 38109 zip code area and I only wanted to target a five-mile radius, which you could see what that radius is right here, I could zoom out a little bit, you can see that that covers looks like southwest side of Memphis. Right? That's only a five-mile radius, but that's pretty significant. I could scroll down here and I could grab these three zip codes now and add those three zip codes into the GMB dashboard for my targeting at my service area. Does that make sense?
Then, you repeat that process again for each one of the listings that you have within a metro area. If you've got one full metro area, like I said, that where you're targeting in all of it your service area is being targeted from one location, then I would recommend that you just add that city name or even the county name as well. Again, zip-codes.com will show you what the county name is for each one of the zip codes too. It might be easier for you just to come in and add county names. All right.
That was a little bit more hands-on training than we typically do on a Hump Day Hangout.
Marco: Yeah. Also, just add to that, Dustin, you shouldn't be the one doing all of this.
Bradley: That's right.
Marco: You should have a VA that you can tell, “Look, I need this updated. This is the process. Go get it done.”
Bradley: That's right. That's exactly what I'm … I mean, for three weeks now I've been working on developing process docs like this which just teaches my VAs. I've got a VA who's really fucking good. His name is Joe. He's really good. But he's never done any of this kind of work before. I basically taught him how to start with a brand new verified GMB profile and optimize it completely, build the add ID pages, do all the stuff that we do, even set up the GMB autoposter, schedule out 31 posts for republishing every 30 days, all of that stuff. He's somebody who's never done any of this stuff and he's got the training and the process docs now to do all of that.
Now, it sucks because I just developed all these, for three weeks, I've been working on all this shit, and just last week, they changed the GMB dashboard. So I have to go back and redevelop those process docs now because the formatting has changed. You know what I mean? That's kind of the nature of doing this. It kind of sucks because they're never complete. When you create a process training one time it's never done, right? You can always go back and refine it. That's what I was talking about. So I've got to go back and do that again to update the processes for optimizing and now setting service areas and all of that. All that has to be updated, which I'll be working on next week.
But that's what I'm talking about. Marco, what he said was exactly correct, is get the hell out of your own way. If it were up to me to do to secure and optimize 50 GMB profiles in the next 12 weeks and I was doing all the work, it wouldn't get done. Right? Be realistic, guys, how many of you would actually do it if you had to do the work yourself over the next 12 weeks? Would you really do it? Most of you might have intentions and say, “Yeah, yeah, I can do that.” But you won't.
That's my point. I mean, the vast majority of you wouldn't, right? I'm not saying that to pick on anybody. It's true. It's tedious. It's hard. We get bored with it, right? If we don't see results immediately we get bored with it. But that's why you should fall in love with the process and not the result, right? I mean, we've heard that. That's cliche. But that's exactly the truth. If you focus in on doing the process that you know will end up bring in results and you fall in love with that, then the results will come. It's just a matter of time.
So if you've got this process developed where you can train, have a team, a virtual assistants, either one or many, doing the work for you, then you know it's going to get done, and the process is being completed which will produce results. It's just a matter of continually being tenacious, just constantly completing the process and not being distracted by other shit, other shiny objects. Right?
That's really been a problem for me too in my own business over the years. It's part of the reason why I have not systematized everything in my business, because I always get distracted. It's a lot easier sometimes just to do the work yourself than it is to create training to teach somebody else how to do it. You know what I mean? I'm sure all of you can relate to that. But once you do develop the training, then you don't have to do it anymore. That frees your time up to do other things. Right? That's really what Semantic Mastery is all about now, guys, is trying to teach you guys how to create a business where it's not reliant upon you and your effort to make money to generate revenue.
Should You Use Unique Google Account To Each Google Search Console and Google Analytics Property?
Okay. Jordan, I'm gonna give you the same answer I give for every time a question like this arises. In fact, there was a discussion about this in the accountability group that I was just talking about. Something similar. I recommend that, for example, guys, every time I get a new client, I go, if they don't already have their site attached to Search Console and Analytics, most of the time clients, if they have an existing web presence will already have that stuff installed, at least in my experience, they will. At that point, I just give them my email address and tell them to add me as a manager or a user so that I can access Search Console and access Google Analytics.
If I have to set it up for them, if it's never been set up for their website, then what I do is I will create a Gmail account, a new brand Gmail account that I now then use or assign to that client's campaign. I will use that new Gmail account for all stuff for that client, in other words, if I'm building a syndication network. When I say me, you guys know I'm not doing this shit. I'm not creating a Gmail account. I'm buying already Done For You created Gmail accounts double phone verified accounts. So I just select one from the list, I assign it to that campaign, to that project, that client, and then I use that email for all of the other accounts that need to be created, including Google Search Console, Google Analytics. Does that make sense?
Then, what I do is I add myself, Bradley Benner, as a manager to Search Console or a user, user/manager, an admin to Search Console and to Analytics and everything else so that I can access from my main profile, the one that I'm logged into right here right now. Right? That way I can still access and then also … By the way, I also assign my VA, because I have a VA that does all the client reporting for me now, which saves me many, many hours per month. So I also add her email as a manager or an admin to Search Console and to Analytics because she, on a monthly basis, goes into those client accounts and takes screenshots of Search Console and Analytics and everything else that I tell her to do for generating client reports and puts all of it together for me to where all I have to do is copy and paste into email and add my commentary to the monthly reports. Does that make sense?
Again, master agency account, yes, I suggest that you have that, that you add as a manager account. But I always recommend, guys, separating Google properties by Google accounts. In other words, separate everything instead of trying to put everything under one account all the time. Because what happens if you lose that account? You're fucked. I mean, there's no other way to put it. There's no way to sugarcoat it. If you put everything, all your eggs in one basket and Google decides to take that basket from you, you're eggless, you're fucked. But if all of your accounts are spread between different Google accounts, then if Google takes any one account, you've still got all the others. Right? You're only going to lose that one account.
And it doesn't affect the manager. For example, if you've got 20 different clients and each client has a separate Google account, Gmail account that you've created for them or whatever for Google Analytics or Search Console and such, and you add your account Jordan Fowler as the manager account and your account gets terminated, God forbid, Jordan, but let's say your account ever did get terminated, it wouldn't affect all those individual accounts because the owner, the account owners of the Gmail account is not you. Does that make sense?
The same thing goes for GMB, guys, for Google My business. Don't create a whole bunch of Google My Business properties under one account. I do a 1:1 ratio. Now, okay, again, 1:1 ratio for every GMB asset that I create has got its own Google account and then I will connect all of them or through a manager account, as a manager but not as an owner. Does that make sense?
Anybody wanna comment?
Marco: Yeah, just going further into that. Once you have a whole bunch under that one-manager kind of thing is up to 50. I can't remember what the limit is, but you should have multiple Gmail accounts ready, especially you, Jordan, I know that you're an agency owner, so that when you get into the hundreds you're going to have four, five, or six different manager accounts that access sets of account.
Marco: I hope that was clear. The same thing goes for your GMBs. You'll have, I don't know, 30, 40, and then stop, open another account that manages, and then that'll be the manager of the next set of 30 to 40, then you stop. You mitigate risk that way.
Marco: That's the whole idea. As Bradley said, all of your eggs in one basket, you're gonna have a whole lot of broken eggs. But on the other hand, if you mitigate the risk, then one egg breaks, that's okay, you can replace that one egg. But if you have to replace 500 GMBs, that's a whole lot of money down the drain, man.
Bradley: You're damn right it is. You're damn right it is. That's like you contemplate suicide time. You know what I mean? That's some depressing shit. All right. This, guys, I just posted this because I know I've talked about this here on Hump Day Hangouts a few times about this being a method where most people talk about doing rank and rent videos where they will go out and rank a video and then they'll charge to rent on a monthly basis and they'll just continually work on keeping that video ranked. That's easy in some cases, but in other cases, it's a real bitch to keep a video ranked.
So instead, there's this video spam method. It's absolutely a churn and burn method. It's a spam method, but it works. In my opinion, it gives way better results than just ranking and renting singular videos for singular keywords. Right? I've talked about, we gave it a, there was a catchy name that Randy James actually came up with called “video carpet-bomb.” We have been providing this as a service in MGYB, our store, which if anybody still needs that service they can reach out to us privately and we may be able to accommodate you. Just contact us at [email protected] I talked about this as a strategy for using the churn and burn video strategy as a kind of a churn and burn rank and rent model, as opposed to just rank and rent where you're constantly trying to keep one video ranked for a particular keyword.
I had one of my clients contact me last week and said that he went to an organic food restaurant and he really, really liked it. He got to talk to the owner and blah blah blah. So he contacted me, he's been a client of mine for five years, and he contacted me and said, “Hey look, I'd really like to help this new restaurant out. Would you be able to rank some videos for them?” He said they had a video created from another company or whatever and he asked if I would be able to do that. I said, “Yeah, sure. Let me run some tests and I'll get back to you.” So I just contacted my VA that runs the video marketing blitz software, which is what we used to do this particular type of campaign.
Guys, I've been talking about this method because I use this method all the time to prospect or to when I'm pitching a prospect on my services. I use this as a way to wow them, right? Because I go out and when I send them the proposal and, usually, for me, it's a video email. It's a Screencast video, where I explain what the proposal is line by line. I essentially go through line by line and explain which each deliverable is and all that kind of stuff. I do all this via video email.
But then I also will send a long one of these campaign results where I go out and just rank a video for them for dozens. Sometimes, like in this case, there's 112 damn keywords ranked on page one, guys, from one campaign. One hundred and twelve keywords ranked on page one of Google for one video campaign. It took my VA about less than a day to do it. I pay that VA roughly $30 per day and all I did was the same thing that I do when I'm using this as a method for prospecting. I will create this, tell my VA, “Hey, here's the keywords, here's the location. Go out and create this campaign for me. Send me the results.”
Then when I send the proposal to the prospect that I'm pitching my services to, I send them the report and say, “By the way, just to show you that I know what I'm doing and that I can get you results, and that I mean business, and then I want to earn your trust or earn your business, I did this for you in the last 72 hours, in the last week, since we last spoke, whatever the timeframe is. Check it out. Here's videos ranked for your keywords, your products, your services in your local area.” I used that as kind of just a way to impress them and get them to … It's kind of like, like I said before, a deal sweetener. It gets clients or prospects to, because you're showing them results that they didn't even ask for, they're not paying me for this at this point.
The reason I started telling you all this is because just last week I told you one of my … His name's Ken. One of my clients asked me to do this for this restaurant and I said, “Okay, then. No problem.” I went and just did some real quick keyword research just using Google Trends. I found a couple keywords. I knew which area it was in anyways. So I just contacted my VA and said, “Hey, I need you to run this VCB campaign for me. Here's the keywords, here's the target areas. Go do it. Within 24 hours he came back to me with this report right here. It shows 112 keywords ranked on page one, guys.
So I contacted my client and said, and this is what I sent him, this was just from today. Look at this, just from today, guys. It said: “Please see attached Excel sheet. I was able to get the video ranked for 112 keywords. Actually, it ranks for many more than that because of different combinations,” which is true. “This type of campaign is $250.” I've talked about that on here on Hump Day Hangout, guys, because we were selling that. We don't have a public sales page up for it. Like I said, contact us at Support if you need to.
We're selling this same service for 100 bucks and I was telling everybody on, as I mentioned this before, you can you can sell this as a $250. That's just what I'm selling. Guys, I know a lot of you were saying, “You got 112 keywords ranked on page one and you're only charging $250 a month?” Yes, because it's a churn and burn strategy, right? A lot of these videos aren't gonna stick for very long.
So instead of trying to keep these videos ranked, what I've recommended and what I've said in the past was you just redo the campaign every month. In other words, “This type of campaign is $250. It can also be turned into a subscription where it is updated every month, meaning the campaign would be rerun each month where new keywords and/or locations can be targeted if desired.” Or you can just keep running the same keywords over and over again because each month it's going to be that that same video or different videos if you wanted could be pushed out across different channels targeting the same keywords again. You could end up with multiple videos ranking for those keywords on page one. Does that make sense?
Again, I told him, “Here's 250 bucks, but it can also be turned into a subscription. Take a look at the report. Let me know if the owner would like to chat with me about keeping his videos up and for an ongoing basis.” I also asked him where I have to send the invoice. Well, he replied a few minutes beyond that, said, “There you go. I've added Erin,” which is the business owner for that particular restaurant, to the conversation. He says, “I've been saying this for many years and I'll say it again, you're the best. Amazing results in such a short time. I'll pay the invoice for the first two months equaling 500 bucks and Erin will pay the agreed price of $250 each months thereafter.” Anyways, he talks about going ahead and completing the sale because I've got his billing information.
Which is great, guys. Think about that. All I did was, my client reached out to me, said, “Hey, could you do something for this person?” I said, “Yeah. Let me run some tests and I'll get back to you.” Within 10 minutes I had the keywords and the locations. I sent it to my VA. Within 24 hours I got this report back. I sent the email out, which is the one you're reading right here, and I just secured $500 in revenue, plus $250 a month in recurring revenue. From a process that literally a VA did in under a day and I pay that VA roughly $30 per day.
Think about that, guys. I mean, that's the power of arbitrage and that's the power of getting yourself out of the process. Right? Think about all of the different opportunities, guys. You could go hire us to do this sort of a campaign for you and just make the difference. Right? Just make the difference between what you're paying and what you're charging. That's a steal. A hundred and twelve keywords for $250. I know a lot of you are thinking I'm under-charging. But every single month, that's another $250.
My VA, he can actually set up a campaign template for this to where all he has to do is, literally, once a month, the calendar notification will tell him to go press a button and then the report will be generated shortly after it's run. He'll send it to me via email, I send it to the client, and boom, there's another $250. Does that make sense?
Guys, it's easy to make money in this business when you have systems in place and you have other people doing the work. You know what I'm saying? Hopefully, that makes sense. I wanted to share that with you guys because, you know, I think too many of us are trying to do all the work ourselves, guys. That's what we're trying to do here at Semantic Mastery, with MGYB especially, is provide you guys with done-for-you services so you guys can go out and just sell the shit and make money. Right? Okay, cool.
Do You Still Recommend Creating Subdomains Versus Subdirectories For Rank And Rent Multi-City Websites?
In other words, if a particular page or a post on your website was to catch a penalty, it can affect the entire domain. Well, additional WordPress websites that are installed in sub-directories are treated as if they're on the root. So if you've got individual location WordPress site that's on a sub-directory terminated-, or penalized, excuse me, then it will affect the root domain and all of the other locations attached as sub-directories. Does that make sense?
But if you do sub-domains as opposed to sub-directories, if you do sub-domains, each sub-domain is treated as an individual website by Google. So as long as you keep the root clean and you don't catch a penalty on the root, again, if you catch a penalty on the root, it will still apply to all of the sub-domains because that's the parent domain. But if you catch a penalty on a sub-domain, it will be isolated to that sub-domain only. Does that make sense?
That's why it's important. That's why, for me, if I'm gonna do multi-location projects or campaigns and I am going … I don't use WordPress. I'm not using WordPress websites now, guys, because I'm just doing GMB stuff. I'm using GMB websites as the primary website now. But when I was doing a lot of WordPress stuff and multi-location stuff, I would do it with sub-domains and I would keep the root really clean. I wouldn't do anything spammy to the root. If I was gonna do anything spammy, it would be into individual sub-domain locations. That way I would protect all of the other sibling locations, which would be all of the other sub-domains. So, that's the reason why.
There's been some tests in the past, they're old though, that like from several years, many years ago now, that sub-directories actually have a little bit more SEO value, they're weighted a little bit heavier towards SEO, but I would rather reduce my risk than have that little tiny bit of additional SEO push from doing everything under the root. If that makes sense. Does anybody wanna comment on that before we move on?
Marco: No. I think that's perfect. The reason why we also do it is because we can push so much power to the sub-domains that we don't need the extra boost that you get from a sub-directory because we can go ahead and make up for that with all of the power that we push.
What Software Do You Recommend For Building Google Stacks?
Bradley: That's right. Okay. “Do you have any software recommendations for building Google stacks?” No. Only because we do everything manually. We don't use software for any of our account creation or any of that stuff, because anytime you add automations, it can reduce the integrity of the properties. In other words, we found, especially through Syndication Networks, that anytime we tried to use any tools for account creation or anything like that, we found that those accounts would typically get terminated a hell of a lot easier than doing them manually.
That's why even today, to this day, guys, all of our Syndication Networks, all of our drive stacks, everything that we create, all the accounts are created manually. We don't use automation or tools for that stuff. We have virtual assistants that manually create all those accounts and the reason why is because they stick, they're a lot better.
I know there are software tools out there that do that. In fact, one of our members at POFU Live from the Ranking Factory, Patrick Tuttle, he was there and he's got some tools. I have not used it. I know he's a good guy, but I have not used any of these tools. It doesn't build drive stacks like what we do manually. But it does help to automate part of the process, that's for sure, so that might be something you wanna look into.
Marco, do you have any?
Marco: Yes. They've automated some of the files and they go into other cloud resources, not just drive. But pure power, pure drive stacks, guys, there's nothing like that. And I'm biased because I was right in the middle of creating all of this stuff, putting it all together. If you want the true power that can be gotten out of a drive stack, the only way that you can do that is manually. There's no automation software that can do that at this time.
Now, having said that, I will be going back and forth with Patrick, we've gotten to know each other lately, since he came to our event, and we just been going back and forth. So I'm hoping that he can develop it to the point where most of the process can be automated and then our VAs can go in there and put those final touches. Guys, the devil is in the details and that's where the power lies when you start connecting it. It's that human end, that person that have been taught, this gets connected to this, and this is how it gets connected, and this is how you get a do-follow link, and this is why we're …
All of that training gets incorporated into it. If we can manage that where some of it is automated and then our VAs put the final touches in it, it's gonna be a dangerous thing, man.
Are All The Participants In POFU Accountability Group Using Virtual Assistants?
Bradley: That's it. John. John, what's up, buddy? John is very active. It's awesome to see how excited he is about everything in the group. He's kicking ass right now. He's taking a lot of action, which is awesome, John. He says, “Are the participants all using VAs?” He's talking about the POFU accountability group. Yeah, because that was that was the whole point. I mean, now am I literally peeking in everybody's windows and checking to see if they're doing the work themselves or if they've hired VAs? No. But the whole plan was, for the accountability group, was to do as little of the work as possible in the actual setup and optimization of these profiles.
Because that's something that a VA can and should be doing, right? Because again, if it was left to each of us to go out and put in this kind of work to make this shit happen, the vast majority of us, me included, wouldn't do it. Right? It just wouldn't get done guys because there's too many other … We're always playing whack-a-mole, there's always fires to put out in our businesses, there's always people vying for our time via Facebook and email and text message, and all the other shit. Right? It's just very difficult. So instead, I said, “Okay, enough of this. I'm gonna teach, I'm gonna develop the processes so that I don't have to do this anymore and I'm gonna share it with all the members of the group.”
Guys, this is the 12-week journey. Step number one. Step number one for the first week was to hire a full-time virtual assistant so that they could put them into … Week two was to put that virtual assistant in the training, week two, is this week by the way, is to put the virtual assistant into the training. By week three, they should be able to start optimizing profiles. Right? That's the whole point, was every one of the members, if they're following along like there were instructed to should have by now had their first VA hired. If not, they should be in process of hiring their first VA.
Which, by the way, how do you do that? Well, it's real simple. We've got a training product called Outsource Kingpin and that's exactly how we hire all of our VAs. Between my partners and I, we've got about 40 full-time virtual assistants now. I think 98% of them were all hired through this exact same method. So POFU Live members all got Outsource Kingpin included with their admission because I wanted everybody to have that process. So that they could go out and start hiring virtual assistants and remove themselves from their businesses. Stop being the bottleneck, right?
Is everybody doing it with VAs? Well, they should be. They'd better be. Do I know whether everybody's using VAs or not? No, I don't. I imagine there's probably a few people in there that are gonna say, “No. I'm gonna do all this on my own,” and those are the ones that are likely not going to have much of a business at the end of 90 days. Right?
“How much is Mastermind now, guys?” 297 a month where you can buy a yearly for I think 3,000, which saves you two payments. Yep.
Hernan:Which is an absolute fucking no-brainer. Yeah. Provided that-
Bradley: Or you can go out and develop all your own process docs and do all the trial and error and figure all the shit out on your own. See how expensive that is.
Can You Use The Same Physical Address To Verify Multiple GMB Profiles For Different Niches?
Yes. You probably can, but I don't recommend it, Will. It's so easy right now-, well, it's becoming a lot more difficult, but we still have a way to get separate GMB addresses for each business. It's also inexpensive enough that if you can use PO boxes still, you can still … Guys, you can rent PO boxes for just three months, that's the minimum. But you can rent PO boxes for three months. If you use the street addressing option, that's all you need to get a postcard.
Will, I would suggest, you know, you've got better things to do with your time than go rent and secure a bunch of PO boxes. But if that's the route that you wanna go, then I would recommend getting a separate PO box for each business. In other words, even with the PO boxes, guys, can use the street addressing option. What happens, your business address becomes the street address of the post office and then you have the pound sign or the number sign and then box number. So whatever your PO box is, let's say, it's box 101, then it would be 123 Main Street number 101. Right?
So what I would do, Will, at that point is get multiple boxes. Because it would still be 123 Main Street, but each box number would be different, which it kind of mimics a suite number. It could be potentially a different office in a building. That's the way I would do it. Guys, I just recommend that you have unique addresses for each GMB because otherwise you're leaving a footprint that could end up costing you your GMB assets. Right?
Guys, again, I know everybody wants to reduce expenses and they I wanna take shortcuts. But that's how you build a business on a shaky foundation. I would much rather spend a little bit extra money and a little bit extra time and spreading my risk as thin as possible. That's why I recommend a separate GMB-, excuse me, a separate Google account for each GMB. I recommend a separate Google account for each search console and analytics account, like we were talking about with Jordan earlier, right? Same thing with this. I would have a different physical location, a different box, a different address for each business. Okay.
Marco: Didn't we set up a bundle for the POFU guys?
Bradley: For? Oh, yeah, we did for GMBs.
Marco: Yeah. Will, write to Support. I mean, this was set up for you.
Bradley: That's correct. Sorry, my daughter is texting me again. Anyways, yeah, yeah. Will, you're in the POFU Accountability group and the slack group. We've got a special deal in there. It's only available for POFU Live members. Guys, I'm sorry. But for GMB profiles, check it out in there, okay? All right.
Do You Have Any Experiences On Google Suggested Edits For Your GMB Listing?
Adam: Ted, I tagged you in a comment. Rob Claudette sent me a message so he's further up on the page, Rob.
Bradley: Cool. Rob's in the belly of the beast right now, along with me and Marco, testing all this different stuff trying to figure out the best course of action based upon all these changes occurring in GMB. So we're in there testing, playing around, guys. Fortunately, again, that's part of the reason I have this group going on, is because all of us are in there testing and we're all sharing information, guys. It's an open group and that nobody, I'm not holding anything back, as far as I know the other members aren't. We're all trying to be as open with each other as possible so that we can really nail this down to a process that we can repeat and scale to grow a great big massive lead generation businesses in the shortest amount of time possible.
Is A Metro Area Different From Counties In GMB?
John says, “So metro areas is different than counties?” Yes, John. Right. So, a metro area, for example, Memphis, Tennessee. Or let's just go back to that. If we take a look at this, if we load the city map, we can see that Memphis, Tennessee actually … Let's go over here. We'll do it in Google Maps to make it easier to see. Come on, map. All right.
If we take a look at this, you'll see this is actually, right here, I guess if I zoom in a little bit it might show. But, yeah, right here. Okay. Right on the other side of the river is Arkansas, down here is whatever. There's Tennessee. There's Mississippi. Mississippi's over here and then there's Arkansas. This is Memphis. Well, part of this, if you take a look at the different counties and such, well, in this case, it looks like all of them are actually in Shelby. Let me give me another example. Let me give you a better example.
Okay. Here's a good example. This is what I was talking about. This is the Atlanta metro area, right? Atlanta City, Geor-, Atlanta, Georgia, excuse me. The metro area is gonna cover all of what they call city limits, but there could be different counties that make up, that fall within that city, if that makes sense. If you take a look at the county over here, they're showing Atlanta. Right here is the city, right? But take a look, there's Fulton County, there's DeKalb County, there's Cobb County. It looks like those are the only three: Fulton; DeKalb, or DeKalb, I don't know how to say that; and then, Cobb. So there's three different counties that actually end up within the Atlanta metro area. Does that make sense?
Here's another example, another way to test this, guys. All right. You can go to Google Trends. All right. Let's just use, whatever, it doesn't matter, we can use any of these. Take a look at where, I've got this, the targeting set for United States for the past 12 months right now for these different keywords that I was just doing some research on. But take a look, metro areas for it. Okay.
For example, if we came down here too, let's switch this to five months-, or, excuse me, five years so it'll show more data. If we scroll down here, let's just use handyman services as an example right here. Right here, it's showing sub-region. But we can do list view instead. Now, take a look, this is metro area. So these are also metro areas according to Google.
For example, Tampa. Tampa, St. Petersburg, Florida is a metro area, right? It actually covers two cities. Because if you were to go take a look at Google Maps at Tampa, Florida, and I know this because I'm also working in Tampa right now. Well, that's one of the cities I'm securing a whole bunch of lead gen assets in. St. Petersburg is down here, it's another city. So the Tampa, St. Petersburg metro area is this, it's both Tampa and St. Petersburg. It's a big area. Like this, right? I think I've got 12 properties secured right now in this metro area. Does that make sense? So that's a metro area. That's different.
Now, if you were to take a look at the zip-codes.com, let's go back over there for a minute. I love this site, by the way, in case you hadn't noticed. I use this site all the time. We're gonna go to Tampa. Oh, I didn't realize what time it was, guys, we got to wrap it up. I can stay a couple minutes later, guys. If anybody's got to go, please feel free. I do wanna finish this one though. All right.
If we look at Tampa, Florida, for example, you can see that Tampa itself, it looks like is all covered within Hillsborough. But the metro area, if we were to click into city for Tampa and we scroll down, it looks like Hillsborough County is the county for all of that. But if you scroll down underneath this, it says 65 cities within 30 miles of Tampa, and we want to go look at … What's this? St. Petersburg, right? That was the one we're looking at. Looks like St. Petersburg is in Pinellas County. Does that make sense?
Let me give you one other example. That's Oklahoma. I don't have it probably open. I don't and I don't have the counties listed here. But this is Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, right? These are all different … Now, this is Oklahoma City. Here you can see this is the city. That all falls within Oklahoma County. But some of these other areas out here, which are what they call, considered suburbs, fall within other counties. Does that make sense? But they're all still part of the Oklahoma City metro area. Hopefully, that makes sense, John.
Okay. Let's wrap this up, guys. I'll stay another 10 minutes if we can get through all of them in. “God loves a cheerful giver. What Marco's doing is amazing with this charitable work. Keep your eyes peeled for his announcement. It's good on you, Marco.” Thanks. We all appreciate that.
Should You Publish Unique Post To Each GMB Listing That Is Under One Category?
Isn't our autoposter give you that option now, to post to more than one GMB at the same time simultaneously?
Marco: I believe so. But Rob would have a better answer for that.
Bradley: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does. I think you can select multiple GMBs from the drop-down when you go to create a post in the GMB autoposter that we provide, or that you can buy from us or subscribe from us. Again, Nestor, I'd recommend unique post if possible. But obviously, for efficiency sake, if you've got, if it's all kind of feeding back to one brand, you could probably get away with it, I would say test it, Nestor. Test it. Okay.
Who Do You Recommend For An Answering Service For A Local Lead Gen Campaigns Using GMB Listings?
However, that said, I have recently just started a switch, well, I haven't switched, but I just recently, because of this new GMB method and scaling, and I've got I think somewhere around 35 or so GMB assets that I've just secured in the last three weeks, so I've got a lot, I just started using CallRail instead of CallFire for my phone numbers. I still have, literally, dozens and dozens and dozens of numbers in CallFire and it's a bitch to pipe or port numbers from one service to another. So I don't know that I'm ever gonna completely disentangle from CallFire, but I started using CallRail for all these new assets that I'm setting up.
CallRail actually has a live answering service like a call center, live answering service that you can add on to the CallRail subscription. Right? It's an additional service. It's an add-on. I haven't tested that yet, but I likely will because if I can combine both my virtual phone numbers and my call center all under one account or under CallFire instead of having CallFire as my virtual phone number provider and then AnswerConnect is my answering service, if I could do it all under one, under CallRail, I will. I haven't got that far, I haven't started testing that yet, but actually I really like CallRail. It's a really cool service. It's a lot of really cool features and it's actually cheaper than CallFire. So check that out.
Marco: No. Adam dropped off, yeah. But we got some stuff coming.
Bradley: Next week.
Marco: Like we mentioned, Mastermind, yearly, you get a discount anyway. That's ongoing. That's an ongoing special.
Bradley: Yeah. Mastermind is the best. I'm not kidding. I mean, we're not just saying that. Mastermind is your best bet. If you're serious about growing a digital marketing business and not just how-to bullshit or how to learn one particular method to execute one particular skill. There's a whole lot more that goes into building a business, guys, than learning how to rank something. Right? I mean, that's only part of it. That's a small fraction of creating a business out of it. Right? Being able to execute some specific function is awesome. It's great. It's a skill that is good to have. But that does not make you a business owner, right?
Again, the Mastermind is all about creating a business around whatever skill it is that you have. We recommend focusing in on one particular skill and making a business out of that and making it profitable for you and generating revenue for you where you can even remove yourself from the process and it still makes money before moving onto the next thing. Does that make sense?
That's why the Mastermind would be your best bet. But that said, we're gonna have some bundled promotion, some special pricing and stuff next week. I think Adam said next week is when we're gonna announce it.
Is Location A Big Factor When Ranking GMB Listings?
“It's the only opportunity I'm seeing and I've been using the Easy Local software for several days now looking for low-hanging fruit. Is it time to change my niche?” No. Start looking for opportunities within the data of even what looks to be super competitive. Guys, I'm finding opportunity in even the biggest metropolitan areas right now because we're searching on a such a granular basis now. I'm telling you guys, there's more opportunity now than I've ever seen in my career of digital marketing. I'm not kidding. Even stuff that you would typically look at.
Again, what I talked about a Local Lease Pro was finding the easiest opportunities, the data that I told you to pay attention to was because that makes it really easy to find very quickly the ones that are, the GMB profiles that will likely rank with little to no effort other than verifying and optimizing the profile. Right?
But for those of you that wanna go into a little bit more advanced or willing to put in a little bit more effort, there are opportunities to be had even in the most, what we think are the most competitive metropolitan areas, big cities. I guarantee you there is opportunity in whatever niche you're looking for at, Dan, right now, even in the biggest cities if you target, if you do your location research properly. And that's exactly what we're teaching.
Marco: Yeah, Dan, look at the data, look at the data carefully and draw your own conclusions. I'm not gonna give it away either because it's what I did to hit a major metropolitan area. I talked to Bradley earlier this morning about what I was doing, just giving him affirmation. This just totally rocks. It totally works. But if you just think outside the box a little bit and take a look at the overall data and say, “Well, yeah, if this is looking this way and I do this, then.” It's an if-then-else statement, right? That's how I look at it. I look at it as a computer program. If-then else, that's how it's gonna work for me.
Bradley: Yep. Edward, thank you for the kind comment, buddy. I appreciate that. I look forward to seeing you this weekend. I'm going to Hilton Head, South Carolina this weekend because my sister's getting married again. I'm gonna meet up with Ed and have some coffee. I'm gonna meet him and his partner. It's awesome. I'm looking forward to it, Ed.
Is The Course Drip Fed When You Do The Monthly Subscription?
Marco: I don't think so. The only thing that comes up is what's available, the products. Not everything that's discounted is … Yeah, you can't buy everything all at once, can't get into everything all at once.
Bradley: Well, you're talking about the Mastermind. I think Ray, when he says, “Is the course drip fed?” you're talking about hiring VAs. I don't know if you're talking about Outsource Kingpin specifically, Ray. That's what I was talking about earlier when I was talking about a course that we have for hiring and training VAs, managing VAs. Again, it's called Outsource Kingpin. That is one of the products that is available as a Mastermind member too and, as what Marco was saying, was when you join the Mastermind it used to be that you got all of our products under $300 all at once.
But because we continue to add more and more products to our product line, like training products essentially, that became like a fire that's too much, it became overwhelming. People would join and they would get access to all of our training products all at once. It was just too much and we would end up losing that person as a Mastermind member because they didn't know where to go and we didn't provide the proper direction and all that. So we're working on all that.
One of the things that we're doing to prevent that is we are only releasing a new product, a new one of our training courses to a Mastermind member each month that they're in good standing. Right? So each month that you remember you get another one of our products unlocked or available to you. Right? That's just how we're gonna drip those out. But whatever product you choose, whatever training course you choose, you get access to the whole training course, it's not dripped out. Let's not drip down on a monthly or weekly basis or anything like that. It's just for you to consume at your own pace. Does that make sense?
Outsource Kingpin, if you've already got three full-time VAs, the Outsource Kingpin process could teach you how to hire VAs in a much more efficient manner and save yourself a shit ton of time. You probably don't need it. I'm saying if you've already got, I mean, you probably get something from it anyways because, like I said, you could make your hiring process a lot more efficient.
But if you don't feel like you need that right now, then I don't think Outsource Kingpin is gonna be the best for you. It does teach you how to kind of train and manage them too, but it's more about, it's kind of a whole training course for setting up a hiring funnel to reduce your amount of time and effort screening prospects and that kind of stuff, and then only talking with the qualified candidates that have made it through the screening process, the automated screening process. And those are really, really good candidates. Then, hiring those candidates and then how to train, excuse me, train and manage them. Again, I'm not sure if that's what you wanted, but there you go.
How Well Does This System Work With Promoting Affiliate Offers?
“The bundle links are in the accountability slack group.” Yeah, okay. Thanks. “I'm gonna send in my prospecting sheet to see if I'm on the right track.” Okay. Fred says, “How well does this system work with promoting affiliate offers?” That's a good question, Fred. I don't know because I'm just doing everything with, you know, I'm dealing with local businesses so I don't actually do affiliate offers. It can be used for affiliate offers. I know that people do that. I just I can't talk about how good or how well it works or doesn't work because I just don't do it, Fred, I apologize.
Marco, I know you don't either, right?
Marco: Well, actually, yes.
Marco: How well does it work for promoting affiliate offers? We go back to what is your local. If your local is the US, then you're going to create your own entity, you have the e-com option correct, you could push your product services, whatever it is that you wanna push. Your local, Bradley just discussed it, it could be the city, it could be a metro area, it could be the county, it could be multiple counties, it could be the state, it could be the country. It depends on what you want to target.
You could set your targeting within the GMB. Google has made it really easy to do this. Then it's just a matter of posting the offers in front of people and getting in front of them when they're looking for whatever it is that you're selling.
Bradley: Yeah. Okay. Dan says, “Thanks, guys. Looks like I have a ton of opportunity here then.” Yeah, Dan. I'm telling you, man, it's hiding in plain sight too. I'm not kidding you, guys. There are so much opportunity in local GMB stuff right now and it's like hiding in plain sight, stuff that you would never, again, even a year ago, stuff I wouldn't have touched with a 10-foot pole, I'm finding wide open opportunities in right now. There is no keyword, well, at least in the type of niches that I deal with, there's not a single area that I have not found an opportunity in just yet.
That's why I stopped trying to target a lot of cities and really now what I'm trying to do is target multiple locations within a city because it's a lot less work. There's too much research work to try to target a whole bunch of different cities because there's a lot of work that goes into the research the location research side of things.
That's the process doc that I was working on today. Because I've already refined the process once, I had a really rough process the first time, which is what my VA has been using for three weeks to do all the location research. Like I said, I think I've got like 35 assets secured in the last three weeks. But this is a much more efficient location research process. Although our location research is evolving and becoming more granular, we're getting a lot more detailed in our location research.
Quit This House, “Bradley, Support says we cannot get Outsource Kingpin with Mastermind.” Well, then that's changed just since our corporate event, our corporate meeting a couple weeks ago, guys. That is absolutely Outsource Kingpin. We've got to rebrand it. We're going to rebrand it, guys, because that was an MPR product. But it was originally a Semantic Mastery product. Anyways, we rebranded it and put it under MPR. We're bringing that back under the Semantic Mastery brand. And, yes, it will be available if you're a paying member in good standing. It's one of the products that gets unlocked with your monthly membership. It's one of those products that gets unlocked in one of the months.
In other words, like I said, if we've got six training products, you don't get all six the moment you join, you get one per month for six months. Or we've got a specific track that we will be revealing as far as whether you are a new business owner, like trying to start and grow a business, or if you are an existing business owner and you're trying to scale a business. It's only two different paths that you can take when you first join the Mastermind and that will determine which products you get in which order. If that makes sense.
“But got a different answer.” Maybe Chris G, our support guy, he might not be aware of that. We haven't fully implemented that yet, guys, so just bear with us. If you're in the Mastermind, reach out to us. I'll get with Chris and let him know that we have changed what's gonna be available and when, and make sure that you guys have access to it. Okay?
All right. Well, let's wrap it up now. I got thrown off there, guys. These are support kind of questions, not something we should typically address here. But I appreciate you bringing that to my attention because, again, we'll school Chris and let him know that that is the new process. Okay. All right.
Anything else, Marco? Let's wrap it up. We're way beyond what I said I wanted to do.
Marco: No, dude, it's cool.
Bradley: All right.
Marco: Just keep rocking, man. The easiest thing in the world right now as far as online is concern is making money. If you guys aren't taking full advantage of it, then come join the Mastermind and we'll help you take full advantage of everything that's available right now.
Bradley: Yep. All right. I will get with you, guys. I'm texting Chris now in slack. Guys, I'm gonna send him a message right now to let him know. We'll let him know what the new process is for that. But yeah, guys, just reach out to Support, we'll get you squared away. All right. Thanks everybody for being here. We'll see you all next week. Take it easy.